Isis video shows young boy beheading Syrian soldier near ancient city of Palmyra

by Guest Fri Jul 17, 2015 5:40 pm

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Isis has released a video showing a young boy beheading a Syrian soldier as it continues to abuse children for its gruesome brand of propaganda.The boy, whose age could not be confirmed, was filmed murdering the prisoner under the watch of an older militant near the captured ancient city of Palmyra.It was believed to be the first beheading by a child filmed by Isis, which has previously used minors to execute captives by shooting them.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-video-shows-young-boy-beheading-syrian-soldier-near-ancient-city-of-palmyra-10397354.html

by Raggamuffin Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:37 pm

You see, what is absurd is that so many people say that children are "victims", or are "influenced", but as soon as they reach a certain age, they become the perpetrators instead overnight.

Those ISIS men who are beheading people were children once, and look at how they grew up. Do you sympathise with them on the grounds that they must have been "influenced" as children?

by Guest Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:39 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:You see, what is absurd is that so many people say that children are "victims", or are "influenced", but as soon as they reach a certain age, they become the perpetrators instead overnight.

Those ISIS men who are beheading people were children once, and look at how they grew up. Do you sympathise with them on the grounds that they must have been "influenced" as children?

You see you do not view children as victims.
You see children as responsible adultss.
Thus to you, no girl under 13 can be raped.

by eddie Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:51 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:I have no idea why you're both trying to change the subject in this manner.

I've said what I think, and I won't change my mind.

I'm not changing the subject
We were discussing how children can be brainwashed - and I asked;

how is a racist child made?

I'll,tell you how; by listening to, and seeing, the parents or main care-givers lecturing on race and how their race is superior and others races are not.

The child lives it, hears it, sees it, believes it and copies it.

by Raggamuffin Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:54 pm

I just don't see the comparison with cutting someone's head off ...

by Guest Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:58 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:I just don't see the comparison with cutting someone's head off ...

You think one dimentionally.
Do you childrenn are criminals?

by Raggamuffin Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:59 pm

Eddie, you don't see the comparison either - if you're honest.

Of those children cut the head off my other half I'd kill them or wish to see them dead.

by Raggamuffin Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:00 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:I just don't see the comparison with cutting someone's head off ...

You think one dimentionally.
Do you childrenn are criminals?

Only the ones who commit criminal acts ...

by Guest Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:01 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:Eddie, you don't see the comparison either - if you're honest.

Of those children cut the head off my other half I'd kill them or wish to see them dead.

You are not being honest.
Are children to you responible?

by Raggamuffin Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:02 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:Eddie, you don't see the comparison either - if you're honest.

You are not being honest.
Are children to you responible?

If they cut someone's head off? Yes, of course they are responsible for that act of wickedness.

by Guest Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:02 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

You think one dimentionally.
Do you childrenn are criminals?

Only the ones who commit criminal acts ...

So you judgeed then?

by Raggamuffin Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:05 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Only the ones who commit criminal acts ...
So you judgeed then?

Huh?

by eddie Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:11 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:Eddie, you don't see the comparison either - if you're honest.

Of those children cut the head off my other half I'd kill them or wish to see them dead.

Because that would be my emotions talking.
In my heart I would know that the ones responsible for killing my other half would be the ADULTS responsible for making a child do that.

Children aren't born with a racist bone in their bodies because they don't see anyone being different to them, children think ducks and elephants are friends!
Children are trained by adults!

Do you think a child trains himself to pick up and use a sword?

Come on rags! Have you ever met s child???? They are completely innocent!

by Raggamuffin Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:14 pm

eddie wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:Eddie, you don't see the comparison either - if you're honest.

Because that would be my emotions talking.
In my heart I would know that the ones responsible for killing my other half would be the ADULTS responsible for making a child do that.

Children aren't born with a racist bone in their bodies because they don't see anyone being different to them, children think ducks and elephants are friends!
Children are trained by adults!

Do you think a child trains himself to pick up and use a sword?

Come on rags! Have you ever met s child???? They are completely innocent!

You think a child who cuts the head off someone with a penknife is innocent?

Sorry but I do not. They are as responsible as anyone else who does it, and deserve no "understanding" or compassion whatsoever.

by eddie Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:20 pm

Children believe and copy what they see in their role models Rags.
How can you say otherwise? How can you say that, that particular child, just decided to go and cut off someone's head???

Going by that logic, you'd have far more children and toddlers committing murders.

What you're saying is: I don't have sympathy for them because they're killers.

Who made them killers? Are they able to make their own judgments in these situations?

by Raggamuffin Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:23 pm

eddie wrote:Children believe and copy what they see in their role models Rags.
How can you say otherwise? How can you say that, that particular child, just decided to go and cut off someone's head???

Going by that logic, you'd have far more children and toddlers committing murders.

What you're saying is: I don't have sympathy for them because they're killers.

Who made them killers? Are they able to make their own judgments in these situations?

Yes, that's what I'm saying eddie. They're not just killers, they're vicious, evil, immoral bastards. Why on earth would I have any sympathy for them? Did that boy have any sympathy for the suffering of the man he butchered in cold blood? Did he care about the pain he was inflicting?

Yes, they are able to make their own judgements IMO.

by eddie Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:24 pm

Okay, what age are children able to make their own judgements Rags?

by Raggamuffin Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:33 pm

eddie wrote:Okay, what age are children able to make their own judgements Rags?

To decide that it's not right to cut someone's head off and hear them screaming in pain?

Any age.

by Guest Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:07 pm

Rags, do you know how old you are when your brain has fully developed?

by Raggamuffin Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:11 pm

Do you know what? I really don't give a shit. The boy is disgusting, and I hope that he is blown apart some day soon. Disgusting little cowardly bastard.

by Raggamuffin Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:12 pm

He looks about 12 to me. I hope he's taken out before he can grow up and become every more perverted.

by Guest Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:14 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:Do you know what? I really don't give a shit. The boy is disgusting, and I hope that he is blown apart some day soon. Disgusting little cowardly bastard.

Do you say that about children who are sexually abused and think it is normal to perfom sex acts on their abusers?

And could you tell be how you can be responsible for your actions when you brain has not got half way down the path of being fully developed and you don't have the faculties to know something is not normal when you have been indocrinated with information that it is.

by Raggamuffin Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:15 pm

You people can sympathise with that monstrous boy all you like. It just shows that you condone the actions of those twats.

I'm disgusted with you all.

by Raggamuffin Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:17 pm

Have you actually looked at him? Have you actually seen what he did?

You all sit there bleating on about other things, and completely ignore the little bastard and his evil ways.

by Guest Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:18 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:You people can sympathise with that monstrous boy all you like. It just shows that you condone the actions of those twats.

I'm disgusted with you all.

I don't condone his action, his action was disgusting, but as a child he had been indocrinated into thinking that it was normal and something people would be pleased if he did. That's exactly what happens to victims of child abuse, the actions might be revolting, the the way they are taught to perform them is exactly the same. The true evil is from the people who indoctrinated him.

by Raggamuffin Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:19 pm

sassy wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:You people can sympathise with that monstrous boy all you like. It just shows that you condone the actions of those twats.

I'm disgusted with you all.

I don't condone his action, his action was disgusting, but as a child he had been indocrinated into thinking that it was normal and something people would be pleased if he did. That's exactly what happens to victims of child abuse, the actions might be revolting, the the way they are taught to perform them is exactly the same.

No, he is disgusting - the face of evil.

You are disgusting for excusing him.

by Raggamuffin Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:22 pm

So much for your "empathy" test Sassy. Where is your empathy for that helpless man who was butchered by that vile boy?

by Guest Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:23 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
sassy wrote:

I don't condone his action, his action was disgusting, but as a child he had been indocrinated into thinking that it was normal and something people would be pleased if he did. That's exactly what happens to victims of child abuse, the actions might be revolting, the the way they are taught to perform them is exactly the same.

No, he is disgusting - the face of evil.

You are disgusting for excusing him.

No Rags, you are disgusting for not realising how children can be manipulated into doing terrible things and it ruins their lives.

See this lad, who was adopted by Greg Wise and Emma Thompson:

Isis video shows young boy beheading Syrian soldier near ancient city of Palmyra - Page 2 Article-0-05CA8712000005DC-539_468x556

Isis video shows young boy beheading Syrian soldier near ancient city of Palmyra - Page 2 Article-0-05CA8712000005DC-539_468x556

He was a boy soldier, he had been taught that what he was doing was right, he had been indoctrinated and terrified into killing people.

by Guest Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:24 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:So much for your "empathy" test Sassy. Where is your empathy for that helpless man who was butchered by that vile boy?

Of course I have empathy for him, he must have been terrified and a terrible way to die. The one does not preclude the other.

by Raggamuffin Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:26 pm

sassy wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

No, he is disgusting - the face of evil.

You are disgusting for excusing him.

No Rags, you are disgusting for not realising how children can be manipulated into doing terrible things and it ruins their lives.

You make me sick with your support for murderers. I hope that boy's life is ruined - in fact, I hope it ends real soon.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

by Guest Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:27 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
sassy wrote:

No Rags, you are disgusting for not realising how children can be manipulated into doing terrible things and it ruins their lives.

You make me sick with your support for murderers. I hope that boy's life is ruined - in fact, I hope it ends real soon.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

It doesn't surprise me Rags, you have no understanding of the mental processes of children and you probably blame child abuse victims for their abuse.

by Raggamuffin Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:29 pm

sassy wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You make me sick with your support for murderers. I hope that boy's life is ruined - in fact, I hope it ends real soon.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

It doesn't surprise me Rags, you have no understanding of the mental processes of children and you probably blame child abuse victims for their abuse.

You probably blame that poor man for putting his head in the way of that knife.

Silly cow.

by Guest Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:31 pm

Really, you are being quite pathetic now, that poor man must have been terrified out of his mind. I can be angry that it happened to him, I can feel pity for him, that doesn't preclude me understanding how the child had been manipulated.

by eddie Sun Jul 19, 2015 1:31 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
eddie wrote:Okay, what age are children able to make their own judgements Rags?

To decide that it's not right to cut someone's head off and hear them screaming in pain?

Any age.

1 I'm not sure you have any real understanding of children
2 I'm not sure you have any real understanding of brainwashing
3 put 1 and 2 together and you're not able to see the whole picture

And finally, I am not condoning what he did, but there is a real evil who brainwashed that kid and made him think what he was doing was right and in the name of religion and love of his "people"

We aren't talking grown ups here; we are talking a young child, possibly a toddler, being trained to think a certain way.

by Raggamuffin Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:47 pm

eddie wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

To decide that it's not right to cut someone's head off and hear them screaming in pain?

Any age.

1 I'm not sure you have any real understanding of children
2 I'm not sure you have any real understanding of brainwashing
3 put 1 and 2 together and you're not able to see the whole picture

And finally, I am not condoning what he did, but there is a real evil who brainwashed that kid and made him think what he was doing was right and in the name of religion and love of his "people"

We aren't talking grown ups here; we are talking a young child, possibly a toddler, being trained to think a certain way.

Of course everyone here thinks they "understand" everything better than I do, and that's because they simply can't understand why anyone would feel differently to them. Just accept that not everyone will see it your way eddie. I'm tired of hearing about these monsters killing people, and I'm tired of seeing people like you and others excuse those who do it on the grounds that they've been "brainwashed".

It actually doesn't matter to me why the kid did it, it only matters that he did. I see no future for him except more of the same, and when he gets to a certain age, you and others will suddenly call him a monster too.

by Guest Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:21 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
eddie wrote:

1 I'm not sure you have any real understanding of children
2 I'm not sure you have any real understanding of brainwashing
3 put 1 and 2 together and you're not able to see the whole picture

And finally, I am not condoning what he did, but there is a real evil who brainwashed that kid and made him think what he was doing was right and in the name of religion and love of his "people"

We aren't talking grown ups here; we are talking a young child, possibly a toddler, being trained to think a certain way.

Of course everyone here thinks they "understand" everything better than I do, and that's because they simply can't understand why anyone would feel differently to them. Just accept that not everyone will see it your way eddie. I'm tired of hearing about these monsters killing people, and I'm tired of seeing people like you and others excuse those who do it on the grounds that they've been "brainwashed".

It actually doesn't matter to me why the kid did it, it only matters that he did. I see no future for him except more of the same, and when he gets to a certain age, you and others will suddenly call him a monster too.

Nobody has excused the killing here.
What is rightly brought up is how children are influence by elders.
Its also the best chances of deradicalizing people is when they are children.
What you have to ask yourself is whether this child would have killed without all the influences through indoctrination?

by Guest Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:33 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
eddie wrote:

1 I'm not sure you have any real understanding of children
2 I'm not sure you have any real understanding of brainwashing
3 put 1 and 2 together and you're not able to see the whole picture

And finally, I am not condoning what he did, but there is a real evil who brainwashed that kid and made him think what he was doing was right and in the name of religion and love of his "people"

We aren't talking grown ups here; we are talking a young child, possibly a toddler, being trained to think a certain way.

Of course everyone here thinks they "understand" everything better than I do, and that's because they simply can't understand why anyone would feel differently to them. Just accept that not everyone will see it your way eddie. I'm tired of hearing about these monsters killing people, and I'm tired of seeing people like you and others excuse those who do it on the grounds that they've been "brainwashed".

It actually doesn't matter to me why the kid did it, it only matters that he did. I see no future for him except more of the same, and when he gets to a certain age, you and others will suddenly call him a monster too.

He was manipulated into killing people as a child as well.

by eddie Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:58 pm

Fair enough rags. We will agree to disagree on this one but can I just do this to you.....

Isis video shows young boy beheading Syrian soldier near ancient city of Palmyra - Page 2 859118666

Isis video shows young boy beheading Syrian soldier near ancient city of Palmyra - Page 2 859118666

Thanks. I feel better now lol!

by Guest Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:08 pm

eddie wrote:Fair enough rags. We will agree to disagree on this one but can I just do this to you.....

Thanks. I feel better now

Always keep a large cast iron frying pan handy Twisted Evil

by Guest Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:09 pm

Ragga cant help it....

clearly its the way she has been indoctrinated.....

by Guest Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:13 pm

victorismyhero wrote:Ragga cant help it....

clearly its the way she has been indoctrinated.....

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by eddie Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:14 pm

sassy wrote:
eddie wrote:Fair enough rags. We will agree to disagree on this one but can I just do this to you.....

Thanks. I feel better now

Always keep a large cast iron frying pan handy

I need one in my house sometimes! Evil or Very Mad

by Guest Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:16 pm

eddie wrote:
sassy wrote:

Always keep a large cast iron frying pan handy

I need one in my house sometimes!

You and me both!

by Raggamuffin Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:03 am

You're just a bunch of terrorist supporters really ...

by Raggamuffin Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:04 am

Nope, she can't drown, the air in her head acts as a float, and the hole where she should have a heart lol

Says Sassy, the terrorist supporter, and supporter of murderers.

by Raggamuffin Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:05 am

Not one of you has shown the slightest concern for the victim, his family, or his friends. You're all just crying over a murderer instead.

by Guest Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:13 am

presumably then you are in favour of giving children the vote, since you hold them to the same standards as adults. Surely they are entitled to the same benefits of adulthood??

by Raggamuffin Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:14 am

victorismyhero wrote:presumably then you are in favour of giving children the vote, since you hold them to the same standards as adults. Surely they are entitled to the same benefits of adulthood??

I would be in favour of you not having a vote as you're clearly too stupid ...

by Guest Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:20 am

oh ...you want to carry on do you???

be my guest........

by Raggamuffin Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:20 am

victorismyhero wrote:oh ...you want to carry on do you???

be my guest........

Giving up so easily Victor?

by Guest Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:24 am

nope...i just dont want to get another thread locked...like you did with your continued yabbering after eddie warned us........

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