One year later, cop who used fatal chokehold on Eric Garner can’t wait to patrol the streets again

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It’s been one year since NYPD officers tackled and placed an illegal chokehold on Eric Garner, leading to the man’s death, and the officer who applied the lethal maneuver is still on a desk assignment waiting to get back on the the streets, the New York Daily News reports. Daniel Pantaleo, 30, who leaped onto Garner’s back and placed his forearm around the struggling man’s throat, has received so many death threats that his Staten Island home is still guarded by around the clock by fellow police officers.

Garner was involved in an altercation with New York City police July 16 last year after one officer claimed he was selling cigarettes illegally. A struggle ensued resulting in Garner’s death and leading to massive protests in New York and across the country as part of #BlackLivesMatter. A New York City medical examiner ruled Garner’s death a homicide, the result of  Pantaleo’s chokehold and “the compression of [Garner’s] chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police.” Despite the homicide determination a Staten Island grand jury voted not to indict Pantaleo in Garner’s death leaving the deceased man’s family furious.


http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/one-year-later-cop-who-used-fatal-chokehold-on-eric-garner-cant-wait-to-patrol-the-streets-again/

Cuchulain wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

I have given her an opportunity to.
Look at the other thread about talking with terrorists and see how she tries to justify murder of a just cause around Mandela, who never killed anyone and is thus comparing South Africa to Gaza, which is a joke.
In other words she is trying to justify terrorism.
If you fail to see that, then I cannot help you but again not once has sassy condemned hamas but deflect onto me about the IDF who I do condemn when they do wrong.

What an absolute load of nonsense. This is just another one of your smear campaigns that you come up with when you can't have your way or you are  being seriously challenged. You tell lies and make things uo about people all the time branding them this that and the other.

You claim to have some qualifications in human behaviour but you can't see that hectoring and harrasing someone constantly to say the words you want them to say just doesn't work.

No-one has condoned the firing of rockets, shells or missiles or the use of children in wars - it's just something you are trying to convince others that they do.

Behave yourself

Oh move along Hamas supporter, you are just as culpable and the same when questioned on the methods used by Hamas.
When I bring up the charter you try to deny its still viable, yet they daily call for the destruction of Israel and through the last conflict.
All the evidence is there and yet you refuse to acknowledge this.
That makes the pair of you apologists to terrorism.
You can try to worm out of all you like but I am not going to sit by when two left wing extremists try to argue off Mandela as a justication for murder and violence as seen on another thread on two completely different conflicts. Not only this trying to compare SA to Gaza which has no comparrison, ignoring it has been from the start the Arabs who were the aggressors never recognising Israel. At every turn she has failed to respond to my questions and even argued off armed ressiatance under occupation, even though Gaza is not occupied. I can read between the lines and I have seen many BDS supporters be advocates of hamas.
You can try and excuse it all you like but Hamas is an appalling organisation that uses children as cannon fodder to garner world sympathy.

Same old rhetoric from someone who just loves to stick labels on people branding them this that and and the other. That's your game and I sussed you out a long time ago.

Your like a scratched record and I doubt there is anyone on here who has seen another member condone any of the stuff you accuse then of. It's all made up nonsense to suit your tired old smear tactics.

Just come up with anything where anyone has condoned the violence or the use of children in war or you will be shown as nothing more than a little liar - again.

Irn Bru wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:


Oh move along Hamas supporter, you are just as culpable and the same when questioned on the methods used by Hamas.
When I bring up the charter you try to deny its still viable, yet they daily call for the destruction of Israel and through the last conflict.
All the evidence is there and yet you refuse to acknowledge this.
That makes the pair of you apologists to terrorism.
You can try to worm out of all you like but I am not going to sit by when two left wing extremists try to argue off Mandela as a justication for murder and violence as seen on another thread on two completely different conflicts. Not only this trying to compare SA to Gaza which has no comparrison, ignoring it has been from the start the Arabs who were the aggressors never recognising Israel. At every turn she has failed to respond to my questions and even argued off armed ressiatance under occupation, even though Gaza is not occupied. I can read between the lines and I have seen many BDS supporters be advocates of hamas.
You can try and excuse it all you like but Hamas is an appalling organisation that uses children as cannon fodder to garner world sympathy.

Same old rhetoric from someone who just loves to stick labels on people branding them this that and and the other. That's your game and I sussed you out a long time ago.
No counter
Your like a scratched record and I doubt there is anyone on here who has seen another member condone any of the stuff you accuse then of. It's all made up nonsense to suit your tired old smear tactics.
No counter just denial

Just come up with anything where anyone has condoned the violence or the use of children in war or you will be shown as nothing more than a little liar - again.

Nothing to refute my points, try again:

When I bring up the charter you try to deny its still viable, yet they daily call for the destruction of Israel and through the last conflict.
All the evidence is there and yet you refuse to acknowledge this.
That makes the pair of you apologists to terrorism.
You can try to worm out of all you like but I am not going to sit by when two left wing extremists try to argue off Mandela as a justication for murder and violence as seen on another thread on two completely different conflicts. Not only this trying to compare SA to Gaza which has no comparrison, ignoring it has been from the start the Arabs who were the aggressors never recognising Israel. At every turn she has failed to respond to my questions and even argued off armed ressiatance under occupation, even though Gaza is not occupied. I can read between the lines and I have seen many BDS supporters be advocates of hamas.
You can try and excuse it all you like but Hamas is an appalling organisation that uses children as cannon fodder to garner world sympathy.

Cuchulain wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:


Oh move along Hamas supporter, you are just as culpable and the same when questioned on the methods used by Hamas.
When I bring up the charter you try to deny its still viable, yet they daily call for the destruction of Israel and through the last conflict.
All the evidence is there and yet you refuse to acknowledge this.
That makes the pair of you apologists to terrorism.
You can try to worm out of all you like but I am not going to sit by when two left wing extremists try to argue off Mandela as a justication for murder and violence as seen on another thread on two completely different conflicts. Not only this trying to compare SA to Gaza which has no comparrison, ignoring it has been from the start the Arabs who were the aggressors never recognising Israel. At every turn she has failed to respond to my questions and even argued off armed ressiatance under occupation, even though Gaza is not occupied. I can read between the lines and I have seen many BDS supporters be advocates of hamas.
You can try and excuse it all you like but Hamas is an appalling organisation that uses children as cannon fodder to garner world sympathy.

Same old rhetoric from someone who just loves to stick labels on people branding them this that and and the other. That's your game and I sussed you out a long time ago.
No counter
Your like a scratched record and I doubt there is anyone on here who has seen another member condone any of the stuff you accuse then of. It's all made up nonsense to suit your tired old smear tactics.
No counter just denial

Just come up with anything where anyone has condoned the violence or the use of children in war or you will be shown as nothing more than a little liar - again.

Nothing to refute my points, try again:

When I bring up the charter you try to deny its still viable, yet they daily call for the destruction of Israel and through the last conflict.
All the evidence is there and yet you refuse to acknowledge this.
That makes the pair of you apologists to terrorism.
You can try to worm out of all you like but I am not going to sit by when two left wing extremists try to argue off Mandela as a justication for murder and violence as seen on another thread on two completely different conflicts. Not only this trying to compare SA to Gaza which has no comparrison, ignoring it has been from the start the Arabs who were the aggressors never recognising Israel. At every turn she has failed to respond to my questions and even argued off armed ressiatance under occupation, even though Gaza is not occupied. I can read between the lines and I have seen many BDS supporters be advocates of hamas.
You can try and excuse it all you like but Hamas is an appalling organisation that uses children as cannon fodder to garner world sympathy.

I have countered all yu points in the past but the subject here and now is your unfounded accusation that people on here have supported the use of violence including the firing rockets, shells and the use of children in war. They have not so do not try and drift way from that and just come up with the evidence that they have or be shown up for the little liar that you are - again.

Where has anyond said that?

Irn Bru wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

Nothing to refute my points, try again:

When I bring up the charter you try to deny its still viable, yet they daily call for the destruction of Israel and through the last conflict.
All the evidence is there and yet you refuse to acknowledge this.
That makes the pair of you apologists to terrorism.
You can try to worm out of all you like but I am not going to sit by when two left wing extremists try to argue off Mandela as a justication for murder and violence as seen on another thread on two completely different conflicts. Not only this trying to compare SA to Gaza which has no comparrison, ignoring it has been from the start the Arabs who were the aggressors never recognising Israel. At every turn she has failed to respond to my questions and even argued off armed ressiatance under occupation, even though Gaza is not occupied. I can read between the lines and I have seen many BDS supporters be advocates of hamas.
You can try and excuse it all you like but Hamas is an appalling organisation that uses children as cannon fodder to garner world sympathy.

I have countered all yu points in the past but the subject here and now is your unfounded accusation that people on here have supported the use of violence including the firing rockets, shells and the use of children in war. They have not so do not try and drift way from that and just come up with the evidence that they have or be shown up for the little liar that you are - again.

Where has anyond said that?

No points countered just deflection.

Not talking about rocket attacks.

When I bring up the charter you try to deny its still viable, yet they daily call for the destruction of Israel and through the last conflict.
All the evidence is there and yet you refuse to acknowledge this.
That makes the pair of you apologists to terrorism.
You can try to worm out of all you like but I am not going to sit by when two left wing extremists try to argue off Mandela as a justication for murder and violence as seen on another thread on two completely different conflicts. Not only this trying to compare SA to Gaza which has no comparrison, ignoring it has been from the start the Arabs who were the aggressors never recognising Israel. At every turn she has failed to respond to my questions and even argued off armed ressiatance under occupation, even though Gaza is not occupied. I can read between the lines and I have seen many BDS supporters be advocates of hamas.
You can try and excuse it all you like but Hamas is an appalling organisation that uses children as cannon fodder to garner world sympathy

Cuchulain wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

Nothing to refute my points, try again:

When I bring up the charter you try to deny its still viable, yet they daily call for the destruction of Israel and through the last conflict.
All the evidence is there and yet you refuse to acknowledge this.
That makes the pair of you apologists to terrorism.
You can try to worm out of all you like but I am not going to sit by when two left wing extremists try to argue off Mandela as a justication for murder and violence as seen on another thread on two completely different conflicts. Not only this trying to compare SA to Gaza which has no comparrison, ignoring it has been from the start the Arabs who were the aggressors never recognising Israel. At every turn she has failed to respond to my questions and even argued off armed ressiatance under occupation, even though Gaza is not occupied. I can read between the lines and I have seen many BDS supporters be advocates of hamas.
You can try and excuse it all you like but Hamas is an appalling organisation that uses children as cannon fodder to garner world sympathy.

I have countered all yu points in the past but the subject here and now is your unfounded accusation that people on here have supported the use of violence including the firing rockets, shells and the use of children in war. They have not so do not try and drift way from that and just come up with the evidence that they have or be shown up for the little liar that you are - again.

Where has anyond said that?

No points countered just deflection.

Not talking about rocket attacks.

When I bring up the charter you try to deny its still viable, yet they daily call for the destruction of Israel and through the last conflict.
All the evidence is there and yet you refuse to acknowledge this.
That makes the pair of you apologists to terrorism.
You can try to worm out of all you like but I am not going to sit by when two left wing extremists try to argue off Mandela as a justication for murder and violence as seen on another thread on two completely different conflicts. Not only this trying to compare SA to Gaza which has no comparrison, ignoring it has been from the start the Arabs who were the aggressors never recognising Israel. At every turn she has failed to respond to my questions and even argued off armed ressiatance under occupation, even though Gaza is not occupied. I can read between the lines and I have seen many BDS supporters be advocates of hamas.
You can try and excuse it all you like but Hamas is an appalling organisation that uses children as cannon fodder to garner world sympathy

You can't come up with any evidence that anyone has said what you accuse them off.

That's fine - you lied.

Irn Bru wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

No points countered just deflection.

Not talking about rocket attacks.

When I bring up the charter you try to deny its still viable, yet they daily call for the destruction of Israel and through the last conflict.
All the evidence is there and yet you refuse to acknowledge this.
That makes the pair of you apologists to terrorism.
You can try to worm out of all you like but I am not going to sit by when two left wing extremists try to argue off Mandela as a justication for murder and violence as seen on another thread on two completely different conflicts. Not only this trying to compare SA to Gaza which has no comparrison, ignoring it has been from the start the Arabs who were the aggressors never recognising Israel. At every turn she has failed to respond to my questions and even argued off armed ressiatance under occupation, even though Gaza is not occupied. I can read between the lines and I have seen many BDS supporters be advocates of hamas.
You can try and excuse it all you like but Hamas is an appalling organisation that uses children as cannon fodder to garner world sympathy

You can't come up with any evidence that anyone has said what you accuse them off.

That's fine - you lied.

The evidence is found within all the threads.
The one on the need to talk with terrorists for a start and others all on Israel.

When I bring up the charter you try to deny its still viable, yet they daily call for the destruction of Israel and through the last conflict.
All the evidence is there and yet you refuse to acknowledge this.
That makes the pair of you apologists to terrorism.
You can try to worm out of all you like but I am not going to sit by when two left wing extremists try to argue off Mandela as a justication for murder and violence as seen on another thread on two completely different conflicts. Not only this trying to compare SA to Gaza which has no comparrison, ignoring it has been from the start the Arabs who were the aggressors never recognising Israel. At every turn she has failed to respond to my questions and even argued off armed ressiatance under occupation, even though Gaza is not occupied. I can read between the lines and I have seen many BDS supporters be advocates of hamas.
You can try and excuse it all you like but Hamas is an appalling organisation that uses children as cannon fodder to garner world sympathy

So again as per usual you cannot refute my claims.

You are an apologist to terrorism and a supporter of Hamas.

Cuchulain wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

No points countered just deflection.

Not talking about rocket attacks.

When I bring up the charter you try to deny its still viable, yet they daily call for the destruction of Israel and through the last conflict.
All the evidence is there and yet you refuse to acknowledge this.
That makes the pair of you apologists to terrorism.
You can try to worm out of all you like but I am not going to sit by when two left wing extremists try to argue off Mandela as a justication for murder and violence as seen on another thread on two completely different conflicts. Not only this trying to compare SA to Gaza which has no comparrison, ignoring it has been from the start the Arabs who were the aggressors never recognising Israel. At every turn she has failed to respond to my questions and even argued off armed ressiatance under occupation, even though Gaza is not occupied. I can read between the lines and I have seen many BDS supporters be advocates of hamas.
You can try and excuse it all you like but Hamas is an appalling organisation that uses children as cannon fodder to garner world sympathy

You can't come up with any evidence that anyone has said what you accuse them off.

That's fine - you lied.

The evidence is found within all the threads.
The one on the need to talk with terrorists for a start and others all on Israel.

When I bring up the charter you try to deny its still viable, yet they daily call for the destruction of Israel and through the last conflict.
All the evidence is there and yet you refuse to acknowledge this.
That makes the pair of you apologists to terrorism.
You can try to worm out of all you like but I am not going to sit by when two left wing extremists try to argue off Mandela as a justication for murder and violence as seen on another thread on two completely different conflicts. Not only this trying to compare SA to Gaza which has no comparrison, ignoring it has been from the start the Arabs who were the aggressors never recognising Israel. At every turn she has failed to respond to my questions and even argued off armed ressiatance under occupation, even though Gaza is not occupied. I can read between the lines and I have seen many BDS supporters be advocates of hamas.
You can try and excuse it all you like but Hamas is an appalling organisation that uses children as cannon fodder to garner world sympathy

So again as per usual you cannot refute my claims.

You are an apologist to terrorism and a supporter of Hamas.

If it's in the threads then bring it up. You haven't so you lied

Irn Bru wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

The evidence is found within all the threads.
The one on the need to talk with terrorists for a start and others all on Israel.

When I bring up the charter you try to deny its still viable, yet they daily call for the destruction of Israel and through the last conflict.
All the evidence is there and yet you refuse to acknowledge this.
That makes the pair of you apologists to terrorism.
You can try to worm out of all you like but I am not going to sit by when two left wing extremists try to argue off Mandela as a justication for murder and violence as seen on another thread on two completely different conflicts. Not only this trying to compare SA to Gaza which has no comparrison, ignoring it has been from the start the Arabs who were the aggressors never recognising Israel. At every turn she has failed to respond to my questions and even argued off armed ressiatance under occupation, even though Gaza is not occupied. I can read between the lines and I have seen many BDS supporters be advocates of hamas.
You can try and excuse it all you like but Hamas is an appalling organisation that uses children as cannon fodder to garner world sympathy

So again as per usual you cannot refute my claims.

You are an apologist to terrorism and a supporter of Hamas.

If it's in the threads then bring it up. You haven't so you lied

Are you denying that you have claimed the charter is not relevant anymore?

Again Irn, I have to do little, I am posting points of which not once yet have you even answered.

Most people innocent would have no problem condemning the wrongs I point out about Hamas yet at every turn you avoid doing so with excuses.

When I bring up the charter you try to deny its still viable, yet they daily call for the destruction of Israel and through the last conflict.
All the evidence is there and yet you refuse to acknowledge this.
That makes the pair of you apologists to terrorism.
You can try to worm out of all you like but I am not going to sit by when two left wing extremists try to argue off Mandela as a justication for murder and violence as seen on another thread on two completely different conflicts. Not only this trying to compare SA to Gaza which has no comparrison, ignoring it has been from the start the Arabs who were the aggressors never recognising Israel. At every turn she has failed to respond to my questions and even argued off armed ressiatance under occupation, even though Gaza is not occupied. I can read between the lines and I have seen many BDS supporters be advocates of hamas.
No bomb shelters for the civillians built by Hamas, which would give the civillians a place of safety after being warned bt Israel which in most cases is first by phone 15 minutes before an air strike..
Hamas denies them access to tunnels and yet comamnds them to stay after being warned by Israel, thus ensuring maximum civillian causlties.
They use civillians more so in the form of women and children to protect their weapons.
They glorify terrorists who murder civillians.
They promote a view to children to grow up glorifying parents as suicide bombers.
You can try and excuse it all you like but Hamas is an appalling organisation that uses children as cannon fodder to garner world sympathy

Didge wrote wrote: Are you denying that you have claimed the charter is not relevant anymore?

I have never claimed that the Hamas charter isn't valiid anymore. I have said that they haven't used it in any of their publications since they were elected whlist at the same time bringing to your attention the Lukid Party Charter which is current.

Didge wrote wrote: Again Irn, I have to do little, I am posting points of which not once yet have you even answered.

I have answered your tired old rhetoric in the past - you just don't accept them.

Didge wrote wrote: Most people innocent would have no problem condemning the wrongs I point out about Hamas yet at every turn you avoid doing so with excuses.

I have never condoned any of the things you are accusing me of having done and neither has anyone else. If I have show me where. You can't - you lied

Didge wrote wrote: When I bring up the charter you try to deny its still viable, yet they daily call for the destruction of Israel and through the last conflict.
All the evidence is there and yet you refuse to acknowledge this.
That makes the pair of you apologists to terrorism.

Where have I condoned any of that? I haven't - you lied.

Didge wrote wrote: You can try to worm out of all you like but I am not going to sit by when two left wing extremists try to argue off Mandela as a justication for murder and violence as seen on another thread on two completely different conflicts. Not only this trying to compare SA to Gaza which has no comparrison, ignoring it has been from the start the Arabs who were the aggressors never recognising Israel. At every turn she has failed to respond to my questions and even argued off armed ressiatance under occupation, even though Gaza is not occupied. I can read between the lines and I have seen many BDS supporters be advocates of hamas.

Where have I tried to argue of Mandela as justification for murder. I haven't - you lied.
Your right, there is no comparison between Gaza and South Africa. Gaza is vitually rubble.

Didge wrote wrote: No bomb shelters for the civillians built by Hamas, which would give the civillians a place of safety after being warned bt Israel which in most cases is first by phone 15 minutes before an air strike..
Hamas denies them access to tunnels and yet comamnds them to stay after being warned by Israel, thus ensuring maximum civillian causlties.
They use civillians more so in the form of women and children to protect their weapons.
They glorify terrorists who murder civillians.
They promote a view to children to grow up glorifying parents as suicide bombers.
You can try and excuse it all you like but Hamas is an appalling organisation that uses children as cannon fodder to garner world sympathy

Most of which you claim above is disputed by the UN report and in any event where have I condoned it? I haven't - you lied. And for what they didn't cover where did I condone any of that - I didn't - you lied.
And you lied even further by claiming the UN commended Israel on it's tactics during the last Gaza conflict. They didn't - it was just sheer opportunistic propaganda and you lied.

The more you post the more you lie and the more you come across as a neo Zionist apologist for Netanyahu's government who have no intention of ever agreeing to a sovereign state for the people of Palestine.

And let's not forget that you refused tro show disgust or condemn those who collaborated with the Nazi's even though you were given every opportunity to do so you couldn't do it. So by your logic that makes you a supporter of the Nazi's. Run with that then.

Hypocrite

Irn Bru wrote:

Didge wrote wrote: Are you denying that you have claimed the charter is not relevant anymore?

I have never claimed that the Hamas charter isn't valiid anymore. I have said that they haven't used it in any of their publications since they were elected whlist at the same time bringing to your attention the Lukid Party Charter which is current.

Didge wrote wrote: Again Irn, I have to do little, I am posting points of which not once yet have you even answered.

I have answered your tired old rhetoric in the past - you just don't accept them.

Didge wrote wrote: Most people innocent would have no problem condemning the wrongs I point out about Hamas yet at every turn you avoid doing so with excuses.

I have never condoned any of the things you are accusing me of having done and neither has anyone else. If I have show me where. You can't - you lied

Didge wrote wrote: When I bring up the charter you try to deny its still viable, yet they daily call for the destruction of Israel and through the last conflict.
All the evidence is there and yet you refuse to acknowledge this.
That makes the pair of you apologists to terrorism.

Where have I condoned any of that? I haven't - you lied.

Didge wrote wrote: You can try to worm out of all you like but I am not going to sit by when two left wing extremists try to argue off Mandela as a justication for murder and violence as seen on another thread on two completely different conflicts. Not only this trying to compare SA to Gaza which has no comparrison, ignoring it has been from the start the Arabs who were the aggressors never recognising Israel. At every turn she has failed to respond to my questions and even argued off armed ressiatance under occupation, even though Gaza is not occupied. I can read between the lines and I have seen many BDS supporters be advocates of hamas.

Where have I tried to argue of Mandela as justification for murder. I haven't - you lied.
Your right, there is no comparison between Gaza and South Africa. Gaza is vitually rubble.

Didge wrote wrote: No bomb shelters for the civillians built by Hamas, which would give the civillians a place of safety after being warned bt Israel which in most cases is first by phone 15 minutes before an air strike..
Hamas denies them access to tunnels and yet comamnds them to stay after being warned by Israel, thus ensuring maximum civillian causlties.
They use civillians more so in the form of women and children to protect their weapons.
They glorify terrorists who murder civillians.
They promote a view to children to grow up glorifying parents as suicide bombers.
You can try and excuse it all you like but Hamas is an appalling organisation that uses children as cannon fodder to garner world sympathy

Most of which you claim above is disputed by the UN report and in any event where have I condoned it? I haven't - you lied. And for what they didn't cover where did I condone any of that - I didn't - you lied.
And you lied even further by claiming the UN commended Israel on it's tactics during the last Gaza conflict. They didn't - it was just sheer opportunistic propaganda and you lied.

The more you post the more you lie and the more you come across as a neo Zionist apologist for Netanyahu's government who have no intention of ever agreeing to a sovereign state for the people of Palestine.

And let's not forget that you refused tro show disgust or condemn those who collaborated with the Nazi's even though you were given every opportunity to do so you couldn't do it. So by your logic that makes you a supporter of the Nazi's. Run with that then.

Hypocrite

Point 1) OMG same thing, itis still used in their speeches, so at no point have you condemned them for this , which means you back the liquidation of the Jews in your support of Hamas, as you cannot condemn Hamas and still cannot condemn Hamas for this. Its not difficult, allyou have to do is condemn notavoid condemning them as you continue to do throughout each post.

Point 2) Never claimed you argued off this but Sassy did argue off Manedla onto a thread which you joined in about talking to terrorists. Which again Sass then posted about Mandela being sentenced to sabotage and that he had trained interrorists camps. Why would she post any of this unless she was trying to justify terrorist violence in the form of muder as she was mostcertainly trying to do, otherwise her points make no sense. Mandela never killed anyone and look for reconcilliation and peace. Sassy was trying to justify terrorism on a bases of comparrison to South African Apartheid, when there is no Apartheid in Israel. She has argued off armed ressitance to occupation where Gaza is not occupied and only parts of the Weest bank have settlements which are on disputed land.

Point 3) To say that Hamas has no bomb shelters or places civillians to protect weapons is notdisputed by the UN. In factno where has the UN stated what you claim where in fact it has condemned Hamas for storing weapons in civillian areas. So now you are just making things up and what I see more than anything is your inability to condemn things by an extremist Islamic group. I can condemn Israel and have done butat every turn and this is typical of extremist leftism they excuse a group that is at odds with every basic human rights there is to people. This same group glorifies in Martydom. Atevery turn you ignore what this group is.

So again my points remain unanswered and you are as seen gutless and a defender of Isalmic extremism.

When I bring up the charter you try to deny its still viable, yet they daily call for the destruction of Israel and through the last conflict.
All the evidence is there and yet you refuse to acknowledge this.
That makes the pair of you apologists to terrorism.
You can try to worm out of all you like but I am not going to sit by when two left wing extremists try to argue off Mandela as a justication for murder and violence as seen on another thread on two completely different conflicts. Not only this trying to compare SA to Gaza which has no comparrison, ignoring it has been from the start the Arabs who were the aggressors never recognising Israel. At every turn she has failed to respond to my questions and even argued off armed ressiatance under occupation, even though Gaza is not occupied. I can read between the lines and I have seen many BDS supporters be advocates of hamas.
You can try and excuse it all you like but Hamas is an appalling organisation that uses children as cannon fodder to garner world sympathy

So again as per usual you cannot refute my claims.

You are an apologist to terrorism and a supporter of Hamas.

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