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Post by Guest Sat Jul 11, 2015 1:11 pm

The 'Izz Al-Din Al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, is preparing to launch its summer camps, which offer military training to teens and young people. Registration for the camps, called "The Liberation Pioneers," is carried out by Al-Qassam Brigades activists in mosques and central locations in Gaza strip cities.

The Al-Qassam Brigades are devoting all efforts to publicize the camps and encourage Gaza youths to join them. To this end, they have launched a widespread campaign to promote the camps on social networks, on Hamas and Al-Qassam Brigades websites, at special events in public places frequented by youths, and more.
This is the third session of the Liberation Pioneers camps; the first was held after the Gaza war in he summer of 2014, as part of Hamas's efforts to provide military training to the Gaza population, specifically the youth, and prepare them for the next round of fighting with Israel. It should be mentioned that the graduation ceremony for the first session of The Liberation Pioneers was a large-scale event attended by Hamas leadership.

This report will review the Hamas campaign, both on the ground and on the internet:


http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/8647.htm


Many further points to read on this in the link.

Two points I shall make.

1) looking at those photo's, plenty of the children were under 15, even though minimum age requirement is 15.

2) "By training youth to fulfill Hamas’ charter calling for the destruction of the Jewish State and the genocide of Jews, Hamas is in violation of the United Nations 1989 Convention on the Rights of the Child. The convention defines child soldiers as combatants under the age of 15."

3) If as seen Hamas is breaking the rules allowing younger children entry to sign onto the camps and thus in violation of the United Nations 1989 Convention on the Rights of the Child. Where is the always outspoken UN against Israel not saying anything on any of this? Where is the call for a new resolution in order to protect the children of Gaza in accordance with the United Nations 1989 Convention on the Rights of the Child. ?

UN double standards yet again.




And if some people claim the Charter does not apply anymore. Then they are ignoring the facts its very much alive and well



In a piece published last Friday in the Guardian, Ahmed Yousef, an adviser to the terror group Hamas, expressed his surprise at the fact that “diplomats, journalists, academics and politicians … seem to struggle” with the Hamas charter. The truth is that decent people struggle with the charter because of its antisemitic nature, but it’s also worthwhile taking a look at more recent statements by Hamas leaders. On Monday, we awoke to news that four worshipping Jews, one of them a British national, were murdered by Palestinian terrorists as they prayed in their Jerusalem synagogue. Hamas praised this atrocity, as it praises every terror attack in which the victim is an Israeli Jew. There should be absolutely no doubt: Hamas’s recent statements celebrating terror attacks are entirely consistent with its charter, which calls for the murder of Jews.
In his article, Yousef refers to the Hamas charter as an “inspirational document”. One wonders which part of the charter inspires him? Perhaps it’s the claims that Jews and Zionists are behind most world revolutions and both world wars? Or the claim that the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion” – an infamous antisemitic libel – is a true account of a sinister Jewish plot to take over the world?



http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/20/hamas-charter-israeli-civilians-dying-ahmed-yousef


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Post by Guest Sat Jul 11, 2015 1:36 pm

Israeli settler children patrolling wiith IDF with guns

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Disturbing photos show militarization of Israeli children
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/disturbing-photos-show-militarization-israeli-children


Neither side should do it, but are Israeli children kidnapped every day by Hamas, held in prisons and tortured? That is what happens to Palestinian children.

In the first three months of 2015 30 PALESTINIAN CHILDREN WERE SHOT WITH LIVE BULLETS BY IDF in the West Bank

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/03/palestinian-children-ammunition


While that is going on, they are going to want to defend themselves. Chicken and egg situation.

And before you go WTF etc etc, no Hamas should not be training children, no Israel should not be training children. However, very few children die and are injured in Israel from weapons, be they guns or rockets, thousands are killed and injured in Palestine.

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Post by Guest Sat Jul 11, 2015 1:39 pm

They are not Military training camps sassy, they are event days in some of the settlements.

Hamas for the last few years every summer has military training camps for teens and as seen a distinct possibility for allowing children under the age of 15.

You see you fail to understand the difference.

How is that a real gun in the first picture?

I think not as it is illegal for Israeli children to bear arms, which shows how you by into a poor lie.

The middle picture is on a firing range.

We then have the last picture with again a child with a toy gun. 

So nothing Israel has done is against the United Nations 1989 Convention on the Rights of the Child.

So lets see what the UN does when this evidence is presented to them.

More excuses not to act against Hamas violating the rights of children?

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Post by Guest Sat Jul 11, 2015 1:50 pm

They don't need the training camps, settler children frequently carry guns and are taught how to use them.



Summer Camp Teaches U.S. Teens To Fight Israeli Style
Jewish-American teenagers can sign up for an eight-week training course run by the Israel Defense Forces where they fire weapons, live in military barracks and saunter around in an Israeli military uniform.

If you are a young Muslim American and head off to the Middle East for a spell in a fundamentalist "madrassa," or religious school, Homeland Security will probably greet you at the airport when you return. But if you are an American Jew and you join hundreds of teenagers from Europe and Mexico for an eight-week training course run by the Israel Defense Forces, you can post your picture wearing an Israeli army uniform and holding an automatic weapon on MySpace.

The Marva program, part summer camp part indoctrination, was launched in Israel in 1981. It allows participants, who must be Jewish and between the ages of 18 and 28, to fire weapons, live in military barracks in the Negev desert and saunter around in an Israeli military uniform saluting and taking long hikes with military packs. The Youth and Education Corps of the Israel Defense Forces run four 120-strong training sessions a year.

"Upon arrival, the participants experience an abrupt change into army life: wearing uniforms, accepting army discipline, and learning the programs and lessons integral to the program," the Let Israelis Show You Israel Web site reads. "The program includes military content such as: navigation, field training, weapons training, shooting ranges, marches and more, as well as educational content such as: Zionism, Jewish Identity, history and knowledge of the land of Israel. All of this is taught in Hebrew in an intensive eight weeks."

"The participants finish the program after completing a short, intensive, exhilarating military experience that allows them to taste Israel in a way that they never could before -- as part of the Israel Defense Forces," the site reads. "They leave the program with a feeling of belonging and a strong connection to Israel, and many return to Israel to continue the connection that was created in the framework of the Marva course."

There are, of course, gushing testimonials about the program.

"I spent the first few days of Marva doubting my decision, wondering why I had come, wondering if there was any way out. With all of the running, yelling orders, discipline and Hebrew, I felt horribly out of place, writes Canadian David Roth of his summer. It was a completely different world from the one I was used to. All that changed, though, by the end of the first week. We had our first ‘Masa’ (Hike). It was very hard, but at the end, we all knew, our M16s were waiting for us at the ‘tekes’ (Ceremony). We got through the 8 kilometers and had our ‘tekes’ and got our guns. It felt amazing, and from that point on Marva was incredible.

How have we reacted when we discovered that American Muslims were being taught in a foreign country to fire machine guns at paper figures and simulate military maneuvers? And what about the summer schools in Gaza organized by Islamic Jihad designed to train young Palestinians in the basics of military life? These Gaza camps, uncovered in 2001, were widely denounced by Israel as proof that the Palestinians were teaching their children to hate and kill.

The argument in favor of camps in Israel, as opposed to camps in Pakistan, is that these young men and women are not going to come back and use what they have learned to harm Americans. They are not terrorists. Muslims, however, have not cornered the market on terrorism and violence. Radical Jews have also been involved in terrorist attacks in Israel and the United States.

I discovered an American in Israel in 1989 named Robert Manning. A huge, burly man, Manning was living in the West Bank Jewish settlement of Kiyrat Arba. When I found him he was carrying a pistol, a large knife strapped to his leg and an M-16 assault rifle. He was part of a Jewish terrorist group called Committee for Protection and Safety of the Highways that set up ad hoc roadblocks and pulled Palestinians from cars to beat and often shoot them. He was a follower of Meir Kahane, the leader of the Jewish Defense League, who was implicated in terrorist attacks in the United States and Israel. Manning served as a reservist in the Israel Defense Forces in the West Bank.

Manning was wanted in California for murder. He had been charged in a 1980 mail-bomb killing as part of his involvement in the Jewish Defense League. The bomb was intended for the owner of a local computer firm, but the package holding the device was opened by the firm’s secretary, Patricia Wilkerson, who was killed instantly by the blast.

Manning, full of bluster and a bitter racism toward Arabs, used as his pseudonym the name of the FBI agent in charge of his case, a bit of humor that backfired on him by confirming my suspicion of his identify. I obtained the picture from his California driver’s license and showed it to his neighbors at Kiyrat Arba. They identified him from the photo. I wrote an article affirming that Manning, heavily armed and an active member of the Israeli army, was living in a Jewish settlement. The Israeli government, until that moment, said it had no information about his location. He was extradited in 1993 and sentenced the next year to life imprisonment without the possibility of parole for 30 years. He is in a maximum-security prison in Florence, Colo.

Those who go through the Marva summer program are indoctrinated as thoroughly as Muslims who go overseas and are told they are part of a greater jihad for Islam. The results, given Israel’s close alliance with the United States, may not be negative for those in power in the United States, but it may be very negative for those Americans defined as the enemy, especially Muslims, should we suffer another 9/11. The program inculcates hatred and a belief in the efficacy of violence to solve the problems in the Middle East. It identifies Israel with militarism. It feeds the idea that a Jew born in Brooklyn has a birthright to settle in Israel that is denied to an American of Palestinian descent.

Jerusalem, aside from being one of the most beautiful cities in the world, is one of the most literate, creative and intellectual. Do these young men and women really know the best of Israel by spending eight weeks playing soldier and glorifying the military? Is the cause of Israel advanced by mirroring the twisted militarism of Islamic fundamentalists?

Terrorists arise in all cultures, all nations and all religions. We have produced more than our share. Ask the people of Vietnam or Iraq. The danger of a military program such as these is that it solidifies a mind-set of us and them. It romanticizes violence. It widens the divide that leads to conflict. It makes dialogue impossible. There are great Israeli institutions, from the newspaper Haaretz to the courageous Israeli human rights organization B’Tselem to Peace Now. A summer working for them, rather than wearing an army uniform, unleashing bursts of automatic fire in the desert and singing Israeli patriotic songs, might actually help.

http://www.alternet.org/story/64100/summer_camp_teaches_u.s._teens_to_fight_israeli_style

Thats been going on for years and the teenagers are often below the ages set.


High school boot camp: Teens train for elite Israeli army units
http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel/.premium-1.557660


Life After Zionist Summer Camp

http://www.theawl.com/2011/06/life-after-zionist-summer-camp

The indoctrination by Israel of American Jewish Children.

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Post by Guest Sat Jul 11, 2015 1:56 pm

I bet you did not read any links sassy.

Show me anywhere that children under the age of 15 are being trained in military camps?

Your sources on some are quite amusing also.

Again you failed to show any similarity to what Hamas is allowing within its Military training camps.

Age is the key factor Sassy.

Like I say you fail to even understand the basics

This is about children under the age of 15 being enlisted in military training camps carrying out armed training for conflicts.

From the only decent link, what did it say of what I have access to read:

A host of courses ready teenagers for the rigors of the army's vetting process.



It is 9 A.M. on a hot Friday morning and four teenagers are struggling to haul their buddy up the steep incline leading from the shore to the entrance of Herzliya's Sidna Ali Beach, the effort clearly etched on their sweaty faces. Joining them on their way back, we meet up with a group of around 70 youths also engaged in intense physical activity. Several are running in the shallow waters toward the...

http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel/.premium-1.557660

They are teaching children physical endurance training.


In your own time please and I want to see real evidence that Israel allows children under 15 to sign up to military training camps and within these camps they are taught to wipe out all Palestinians?

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Post by Guest Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:06 pm

Oh I do and I read them all, I doubt you did.  As to the age - what age limit does Israel put on the children it shoots.   What age limited do IDF soldiers put on the children its points its guns and at tries to frighten.  Palestinian children are brought up with IDF guns pointing at them.   As I said, chicken and egg and Israel settler children are not only taught to use the guns from an early age, but actually walk around patrolling with IDF forces, all before the age of 15.


Israeli settlers training their children how to shoot near a Palestinian school

Palestinian sources said that extremist settlers trained, on Wednesday, dozens of their children to shoot using hunting rifles, near a school in the village of Nabi Samuel northwest of the occupied city of Jerusalem.

The Information Center of Wadi al-Hilweh in occupied Jerusalem quoted the headmaster Khalil Abu Arqoub as saying that the settlers have been training their children to shoot using the hunting rifles near the Nabi Samuel School, which caused a state of fear and panic among the school children.

Abu Arqoub added that “the school and the training venue were only separated by a barbed wire,” adding that “the training has lasted for several hours, with the participation of nearly 40 Jewish children.”

He pointed out that he had submitted a complaint to the occupation authorities which claimed that the children were playing, and did not bother to stop the training.

The Information Center of Wadi al-Hilweh noted that near the school there is a building inhabited by Jewish extremists from Kiryat Arba settlement, and that they continue to disturb the schoolchildren.

https://occupiedpalestine.wordpress.com/2013/03/28/israeli-settlers-training-their-children-how-to-shoot-near-a-palestinian-school/

They don't need camps to do it, it's what they do every day.

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Everyday life for a Palestinian child trying to live in his own country.


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Post by Guest Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:07 pm

Occupied Palestine word press?


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Like I said real evidence from reliable sources that are reputable.

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Post by Guest Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:10 pm

Israeli propaganda site?

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Post by Guest Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:14 pm

Educational methods:
Youth movements employ informal education methods to educate an ideology to their members. This is often achieved through regular meetings that socialise participants within their groups, as well as camps. Particularly on camps, but in all interactions movements create a counter-culture that produces a particular social environment where members can express themselves freely, although with an underlying focus towards the movement's ideology. Recently, there have been suggestion that youth movement counter-culture is waning, and needs to be revived [1]

Activities and camps are essentially peer-led, usually by youth leaders who are often a few years older than the participants. Because of this, a friendly relationship is created between leaders and participants that encourages leadership by personal example (dugma ishit), whereby a leader's method of education is by being a moral, active and ideological member of the movement themself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_youth_movement



References


  • Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs, [url=http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/History/Modern History/Centenary of Zionism/Youth Movements]Centenary of Zionism - Youth Movements[/url], 1998.
  • Zvi Lamm, Youth takes the Lead: The Inception of Jewish Youth Movements in Europe, Givat Haviva, Yad Yaari, 2004.
  • Galus Australis, Bring back Jewish Youth Counterculture, Joel Lazar, 2009




[*]Barsky, Robert. 2010. Zellig Harris. Cambridge, MA: MIT Press.

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[*]"A Finding Aid to the Phineas Smoller Papers Manuscript Collection No. 108". The Jacob Rader Marcus Center of the Jewish American Archives. Jacob Rader Marcus Center of the American Jewish Archives. Retrieved 14 April 2013.
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External links


  • Articles and resources on Zionist youth movements - World Zionist Organization
  • The World of the Jewish Youth Movement
  • Hanaor Hatzioni UK
  • Bnei Akiva)

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Post by Guest Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:14 pm

I think it's indicative of how entrenched the hatred is.
No one is right or justified in the arming of children.
But it happens all over the world and it's heartbreaking

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Post by Guest Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:17 pm

The opening thread was from the site Memri:

Memri is a not a propaganda site for Israel, as it reports on the activities of the Middle East

http://www.memri.org/middle-east-media-research-institute.html


Poor Sassy lol

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Post by Guest Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:18 pm

Nems wrote:I think it's indicative of how entrenched the hatred is.
No one is right or justified in the arming of children.
But it happens all over the world and it's heartbreaking


The most sensible post so far on the entire thread.

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