Want to write to your MP about bill to bring back fox hunting next Thursday?

Cameron slipping in Bill to bring back hunting with dogs next Thursday, at this stage just to let them flush out the fox so that hunters can shoot them. At the moment this is already allowed providing only two dogs are used, so why would you need a pack? Like we don't know.

Link to write to your MP:



https://www.writetothem.com/

A hunt in full cry is a stirring sight, but if Foxes are causing problems lamping them at night is a better idea.

Can't say as I ever found them 'stirring'. My thoughts were with the fox or the stag about to be ripped to shreds and it's guts trailing over the ground, that and looking out for the hounds who run in front of us across the road, nearly caused an accident and we would of been heartbroken to have hurt a dog.

Have to say the sight of a terrified animal being chased by a bunch of chinless wonders have never struck me as stirring.

Hmmm not my cup of tea either.

Tally Ho!!!!!

They say they are needed to control the fox populatiow but that is bollocks!


In the isle of wight there were no foxes until they were introduced for the sole purpose of hunting them.


Chasing a terrified animal for several miles to exhaustion then letting the dogs rip it apart is pure cruelty.


I don't really see the problem with foxes at all as this is what they eat...

"Foxes are omnivores and eat small mammals, birds, reptiles, frogs, eggs, insects, worms, fish, crabs, mollusks, fruits, berries, vegetables, seeds, fungi and carrion. In winter they mainly eat mammals, such as mice, rabbits and other small animals. In autumn their preference is fruit and berries like blackberries, apples and persimmons, plus acorns, sedges and tubers. In summer they eat lots of insects like crickets, beetles and caterpillars as well as frogs and mice. In spring they will fill up on birds' eggs and earthworms. They will even wade into shallow water for fish and crabs."


Plus they will also eat dead animals they come across.

If hunting is brought back, I shall install razor wire around my cricket ground.
That will fillet the dogs and do untold damage to the horses and Hooray Henries riding them. PRIVATE LAND - KEEP EFFING OFF!!!

Tommy Monk wrote:They say they are needed to control the fox populatiow but that is bollocks!


In the isle of wight there were no foxes until they were introduced for the sole purpose of hunting them.


Chasing a terrified animal for several miles to exhaustion then letting the dogs rip it apart is pure cruelty.


I don't really see the problem with foxes at all as this is what they eat...

"Foxes are omnivores and eat small mammals, birds, reptiles, frogs, eggs, insects, worms, fish, crabs, mollusks, fruits, berries, vegetables, seeds, fungi and carrion. In winter they mainly eat mammals, such as mice, rabbits and other small animals. In autumn their preference is fruit and berries like blackberries, apples and persimmons, plus acorns, sedges and tubers. In summer they eat lots of insects like crickets, beetles and caterpillars as well as frogs and mice. In spring they will fill up on birds' eggs and earthworms. They will even wade into shallow water for fish and crabs."


Plus they will also eat dead animals they come across.

Well said tommy- didn't think I'd ever be typing that on here.

Eilzel wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:They say they are needed to control the fox populatiow but that is bollocks!


In the isle of wight there were no foxes until they were introduced for the sole purpose of hunting them.


Chasing a terrified animal for several miles to exhaustion then letting the dogs rip it apart is pure cruelty.


I don't really see the problem with foxes at all as this is what they eat...

"Foxes are omnivores and eat small mammals, birds, reptiles, frogs, eggs, insects, worms, fish, crabs, mollusks, fruits, berries, vegetables, seeds, fungi and carrion. In winter they mainly eat mammals, such as mice, rabbits and other small animals. In autumn their preference is fruit and berries like blackberries, apples and persimmons, plus acorns, sedges and tubers. In summer they eat lots of insects like crickets, beetles and caterpillars as well as frogs and mice. In spring they will fill up on birds' eggs and earthworms. They will even wade into shallow water for fish and crabs."


Plus they will also eat dead animals they come across.

Well said tommy- didn't think I'd ever be typing that on here.

You know what, I agree (faints).


Plus, hunts breed foxes and make artifical sets to put them in, after being hand-reared they are not frightened of people and are easy prey. That's been video'd over and over again.

funny how lambs and chickens have been missed off that diet,
along with the odd cat here and there

Eilzel wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:They say they are needed to control the fox populatiow but that is bollocks!


In the isle of wight there were no foxes until they were introduced for the sole purpose of hunting them.


Chasing a terrified animal for several miles to exhaustion then letting the dogs rip it apart is pure cruelty.


I don't really see the problem with foxes at all as this is what they eat...

"Foxes are omnivores and eat small mammals, birds, reptiles, frogs, eggs, insects, worms, fish, crabs, mollusks, fruits, berries, vegetables, seeds, fungi and carrion. In winter they mainly eat mammals, such as mice, rabbits and other small animals. In autumn their preference is fruit and berries like blackberries, apples and persimmons, plus acorns, sedges and tubers. In summer they eat lots of insects like crickets, beetles and caterpillars as well as frogs and mice. In spring they will fill up on birds' eggs and earthworms. They will even wade into shallow water for fish and crabs."


Plus they will also eat dead animals they come across.

Well said tommy- didn't think I'd ever be typing that on here.

I second that emotion

victorismyhero wrote:funny how lambs and chickens have been missed off that diet,
along with the odd cat here and there

and, it appears the occaisional child

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/children/11216320/Toddler-rushed-to-hospital-in-fox-attack.html

victorismyhero wrote:

victorismyhero wrote:funny how lambs and chickens have been missed off that diet,
along with the odd cat here and there

and, it appears the occaisional child

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/children/11216320/Toddler-rushed-to-hospital-in-fox-attack.html

Ah yes we are going to see lots of stories about how dangerous foxes are if hunting is being debated

How many children were injured or killed by foxes last year?
How many children were injured or killed by dogs last year?

ya wanna play the numbers game??

oh and I dont support fox hunting with horse and hound BTW...I just dislike specious and carefully doctored argument

foxes are vermin no doubt about it
foxes are not cute cuddly things

but I have a better way to control them than chasing them to exhaustion......

[quote="victorismyhero"]ya wanna play the numbers game??

[/quote

What, like bingo you mean?

I see handy pandy doesn't mind innocent dogs and horses getting their guts ripped out.

think before you print.

If you want to kill Foxes the Gun is the best option as long as you know what your doing.

.22 hornet at about 150 yards, with infra red night vision....sorted

victorismyhero wrote:.22 hornet at about 150 yards, with infra red night vision....sorted

Got to be preferable to setting dogs on them

of course it is Nems....quick clean and humane

and only shot round the chicken pens and lambs.....

those that live in the wood and munch rabbit are left alone....

nicko wrote:I see handy pandy doesn't mind innocent dogs and horses getting their guts ripped out.

think before you print.

If you want to kill Foxes the Gun is the best option as long as you know what your doing.

Are horses and dogs guts getting ripped out any different to a fox having his guts ripped out?
Only difference is the braying Arsehole in a red jacket cheering the dogs action.

victorismyhero wrote:of course it is Nems....quick clean and humane

and only shot round the chicken pens and lambs.....

those that live in the wood and munch rabbit are left alone....

Fine by me... that's how the law should be.

Tommy Monk wrote:They say they are needed to control the fox populatiow but that is bollocks!


In the isle of wight there were no foxes until they were introduced for the sole purpose of hunting them.


Chasing a terrified animal for several miles to exhaustion then letting the dogs rip it apart is pure cruelty.


I don't really see the problem with foxes at all as this is what they eat...

"Foxes are omnivores and eat small mammals, birds, reptiles, frogs, eggs, insects, worms, fish, crabs, mollusks, fruits, berries, vegetables, seeds, fungi and carrion. In winter they mainly eat mammals, such as mice, rabbits and other small animals. In autumn their preference is fruit and berries like blackberries, apples and persimmons, plus acorns, sedges and tubers. In summer they eat lots of insects like crickets, beetles and caterpillars as well as frogs and mice. In spring they will fill up on birds' eggs and earthworms. They will even wade into shallow water for fish and crabs."


Plus they will also eat dead animals they come across.

I have never agreed with Tommy more strongly

Well TM it seem like you are one of the few Englishmen with a set.. Foxes are not a threat

veya_victaous wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:They say they are needed to control the fox populatiow but that is bollocks!


In the isle of wight there were no foxes until they were introduced for the sole purpose of hunting them.


Chasing a terrified animal for several miles to exhaustion then letting the dogs rip it apart is pure cruelty.


I don't really see the problem with foxes at all as this is what they eat...

"Foxes are omnivores and eat small mammals, birds, reptiles, frogs, eggs, insects, worms, fish, crabs, mollusks, fruits, berries, vegetables, seeds, fungi and carrion. In winter they mainly eat mammals, such as mice, rabbits and other small animals. In autumn their preference is fruit and berries like blackberries, apples and persimmons, plus acorns, sedges and tubers. In summer they eat lots of insects like crickets, beetles and caterpillars as well as frogs and mice. In spring they will fill up on birds' eggs and earthworms. They will even wade into shallow water for fish and crabs."


Plus they will also eat dead animals they come across.

I have never agreed with Tommy more strongly

Well TM it seem like you are one of the few Englishmen with a set..  Foxes are not a threat

Thrilled to bits that where I have moved to I now have a fox comes into the garden as night, and the couple across the road have badgers.  Absolutely brilliant. Had foxes in a woody bit across the road when I lived in Colchester and watched them bring up their pups.

the enemy of every sheep farmer and chicken grower there ever was

Everyone loves Tommy here again!!!

Tommy Monk wrote:Everyone loves Tommy here again!!!

I'd like you a lot more if you stopped using that after every post. Occasionally is fine, every time and my right hand itches to slap you.

Most amusing!!!


Although of course it could be worse...































I could be doing this instead!!!

Then Tommy I'd have to resort to the largest frying pan with a cast iron base

victorismyhero wrote:the enemy of every sheep farmer and chicken grower to dumb to get a lama or alpaca there ever was

Something tells me you have a few of those and with a few suspiciously head shaped looking dents in them...

Tommy Monk wrote:Something tells me you have a few of those and with a few suspiciously head shaped looking dents in them...

You'd be right !

veya_victaous wrote:

victorismyhero wrote:the enemy of every sheep farmer and chicken grower to dumb to get a lama or alpaca there ever was

I suppose you think llamas cuddle the foxes to keep em out


(hint ...they dont)
(hint 2 ..stomp stomp stomp)

same thing different way

or the fox runs away. fair/better chance
and soon the locals foxes learn not to go near the sheep or chicken coops when they smell lama



Besides they are native to the UK so you should just put up with it we do that with saltwater crocs and numerous venomous snakes, so i don't see why you cant with foxes.

veya_victaous wrote:or the fox runs away. fair/better chance
and soon the locals foxes learn not to go near the sheep or chicken coops when they smell lama



Besides they are native to the UK so you should just put up with it  we do that with saltwater crocs and numerous venomous snakes, so i don't see why you cant with foxes.

Exactly!!!

Try telling that to the farmer on whos land I shot 12 foxes this winter/spring, who last year lost 48 lambs to the furry fiends.....

as for that stupid film clip of that "tame fox" clearly it is "ignorant propaganda"
that fox is NOT tame

it is an imprinted wild animal, and is likely to revert for no apparant reason....
I hope the person concerned understands that....and is prepared to take the (potential) consequences of their actions...

oh and ebola is native to sub saharan africa...perhaps they should "just put up with it"?

see I'm not that bothered...I dont shoot foxes unless my land owner says I got a probelm with foxes ...sort it

I wouldnt generally on principle shoot a fox since primarily they are inedible

now crows and magpies are different , there exists a state of war twixt them and me....

and pigeons are edible ...yum....
and a pain in the arse to farmers in any number......

Shooting a few of the troublesome ones is a bit different to chasing a terrified animal to exhaustion and allowing a pack of dogs to then rip it to shreds in a most brutal and barbaric death...

48 lambs what's that 1% of births in a flock of commercial size.
hobby farmers


An African example would be lions elephants etc and unless you are saying Africans should wipe out these animals that are acutely a threat to humans your point is moot.
You see we expect African farmers to live with Lions and You lot go crying about foxes, You aint gonna get sympathy for that

and like Tommy said if one is actually causing trouble it is one thing but the general exception to not have any fox presence is just pathetic.

veya_victaous wrote:48 lambs what's that 1% of births in a flock of commercial size.
hobby farmers


An African example would be lions elephants etc and unless you are saying Africans should wipe out these animals that are acutely a threat to humans your point is moot.
You see we expect African farmers to live with Lions and You lot go crying about foxes, You aint gonna get sympathy for that

and like Tommy said if one is actually causing trouble it is one thing but the general exception to not have any fox presence is just pathetic.

typical reductio ad absurdum reply from the typical ignorant antipodean wind bag

who doesnt actually read what is posted

Tommy's post got lost there and it was very fair. Shooting a few problem animals is not the same as savaging them in the name of 'sport'.

Ha! So Cameron bottled it. I might have to change my views about the SNP.

This was clearly an attempt to reintroduce hunting with dogs by stealth, and it failed - this time. Cameron is currently my least favourite person because of his attempt to bring back animal abuse as a sport, but at least he has egg on his face - for the moment.

Tommy Monk wrote:Shooting a few of the troublesome ones is a bit different to chasing a terrified animal to exhaustion and allowing a pack of dogs to then rip it to shreds in a most brutal and barbaric death...

you have some very queer ideas about some things Tommy but on this i agree with you 100%

I would add though, that better maybe if farmers installed better protection round their animals then even the shooting of foxes would not be needed either as they would not be any trouble.


I posted the foxes natural diet earlier.

and of course YOU would be happy to pay the large increase in price for your food, or maybe see the british farmers put out of business by cheaper foreign imports from hypocritical coun tries like Australia, where doubtless dingos are public enemy NO1 to sheep farmers, along with wild pig

see...how DO you "protect" sheep from foxes on 2000 acres of wild welsh hillside?

There is a cost associated with any means of control or protection.

victorismyhero wrote:and of course YOU would be happy to pay the large increase in price for your food, or maybe see the british farmers put out of business by cheaper foreign imports  from hypocritical coun tries like Australia, where doubtless dingos are public enemy NO1 to sheep farmers, along with wild pig

see...how DO you "protect" sheep from foxes on 2000 acres of wild welsh hillside?

Japanese snipers?

Tommy Monk wrote:There is a cost associated with any means of control or protection.

no cost associated with folks like me shooting

well not for Mr Farmer anyhows....

another one with "fine ideas" and no idea of what needs doing ...or how to do it......

nor I notice has he answered the question posed....





and of course YOU would be happy to pay the large increase in price for your food, or maybe see the british farmers put out of business by cheaper foreign imports from hypocritical countries like Australia, where doubtless dingos are public enemy NO1 to sheep farmers, along with wild pig??????????

see...how DO you "protect" sheep from foxes on 2000 acres of wild welsh hillside?