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by Guest Sun Jul 05, 2015 7:38 pm

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why not join and help people survive this dreadful disease...

it could save lives...

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:26 am

scuse me...back in 5...the cat just shat

by Raggamuffin Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:27 am

sassy wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Yep, then he'll go crawling to his doctor for help. And I hope the doctor tells him to fuck off and use the cures he's been promoting. He'll be laughing on the other side of his face then.

Oh stop it FFS.

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:27 am

mentor wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

perhaps spassy wished cancer on her daughter in spite, assuming it had a daughter of course..........

at this point I shoud perhaps point out that this is exactly what got you banned before

see you are not bright enough to play that kind of game.......

so she can wish cancer on us but you're wanting us banned for telling a few home truths , maybe you need to talk to your pal and tell her to stop being such an evil old bastard .

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:28 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
mentor wrote:

treatment for allergic arthritis

100mg minocin (a type of tetracyline antibiotic) taken every other day for 18 months...

didnt cure it immediately, but stopped it progressing...

over the years it has slowly resolved

reason

a number of allergic arthritis conditions are caused by subclinical infection with L type organisms

the minocin kills these slowly ovet the 18 months...

once the infection is cleared your body then starts to slowly stop attacking your joint tissue and "unlearns" the immune response caused by the bacteria....

Interesting - thank you.

I wouldn't have thought methotrexate would be used for that kind of arthritis anyway.

yes, because methotrexate in low doses is an immunosupressant, and the arthritis is due to your immune system attacking the joint tissues....

by Raggamuffin Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:29 am

mentor wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Interesting - thank you.

I wouldn't have thought methotrexate would be used for that kind of arthritis anyway.

yes, because methotrexate in low doses is an immunosupressant, and the arthritis is due to your immune system attacking the joint tissues....

So where does the allergy come in?

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:29 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
sassy wrote:

Yep, then he'll go crawling to his doctor for help. And I hope the doctor tells him to fuck off and use the cures he's been promoting. He'll be laughing on the other side of his face then.

Oh stop it FFS.

You are joking, because all the time that bastard promotes dangerous cures for cancer I will say I hape he has to use them. On another forum he said he got a member of his 'church' to stop their treatment from doctors and use the alternatives. So not going to stop it, he's ignorant and bloody dangerous to sick people and deserves everything he gets.

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:29 am

and its cheap
and it works
and its actually quite effective

BUT....it has nasty side effects

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:31 am

wish sassy would go to bed surely old people don't stay up this late Rolling Eyes

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:31 am

sassy wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Oh stop it FFS.

You are joking, because all the time that bastard promotes dangerous cures for cancer I will say I hape he has to use them. On another forum he said he got a member of his 'church' to stop their treatment from doctors and use the alternatives. So not going to stop it, he's ignorant and bloody dangerous to sick people and deserves everything he gets.

do shut up you old hag..... Smile

by Raggamuffin Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:31 am

mentor wrote:and its cheap
and it works
and its actually quite effective

BUT....it has nasty side effects

Yes I know. Laughing

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:33 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
mentor wrote:

yes, because methotrexate in low doses is an immunosupressant, and the arthritis is due to your immune system attacking the joint tissues....

So where does the allergy come in?

any allergy is an abberant and over strong immune respose.

i.e your body recting with an immune response to things it really should not

hay fever...a reaction to pollen

dermatitis an immune response to a skin irritant

allergic arthritis an immune response to a number of different things..(in my case a bacteria known as mycoplasma) which also attacks joint tissue...

etc etc etc....

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:33 am

spassy deserves everything she gets, the old hags bitterness has destroyed it's body and good riddance to bad rubbish.....

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:34 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
mentor wrote:and its cheap
and it works
and its actually quite effective

BUT....it has nasty side effects

Yes I know.

well what you got

I have psoriatic arthropathy ...well I did have......

(try saying THAT when you have had a few..... Laughing

)

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:35 am

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:spassy deserves everything she gets, the old hags bitterness has destroyed it's body and good riddance to bad rubbish.....

i shall leave you kids to fight it out in the playground.......

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:35 am

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:spassy deserves everything she gets, the old hags bitterness has destroyed it's body and good riddance to bad rubbish.....

bitterness destroys the immune system .

by Raggamuffin Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:36 am

mentor wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

So where does the allergy come in?

any allergy is an abberant and over strong immune respose.

i.e your body recting with an immune response to things it really should not

hay fever...a reaction to pollen

dermatitis an immune response to a skin irritant

allergic arthritis an immune response to a number of different things..(in my case a bacteria known as mycoplasma) which also attacks joint tissue...

etc etc etc....

True, but the immune system is reacting to outside substances - wouldn't anti-inflammatories be sufficient?

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:37 am

mentor wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:spassy deserves everything she gets, the old hags bitterness has destroyed it's body and good riddance to bad rubbish.....

i shall leave you kids to fight it out in the playground.......

no need i wouldn't go anywhere near sassy she is so revolting .

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:37 am

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:spassy deserves everything she gets, the old hags bitterness has destroyed it's body and good riddance to bad rubbish.....

bitterness destroys the immune system .

it could be a reaction to the sex change op.... Smile

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:39 am

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:

bitterness destroys the immune system .

it could be a reaction to the sex change op....

nope its pure rot she is rotten to the core .

by Raggamuffin Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:39 am

mentor wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Yes I know.

well what you got

I have psoriatic arthropathy ...well I did have......

(try saying THAT when you have had a few..... )

Ah, psoriatic arthritis? A nasty condition, but there's lots of research going into it.

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:40 am

mentor wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:spassy deserves everything she gets, the old hags bitterness has destroyed it's body and good riddance to bad rubbish.....

i shall leave you kids to fight it out in the playground.......

Take no notice of him, if you don't quote him, I can't see him. He's been a sick shit for as long as I have known him on forums, every so often he pretends to be different, but the real him just can't be kept down and comes slithering out.

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:40 am

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

it could be a reaction to the sex change op....

nope its pure rot she is rotten to the core .

yeah you are probably right, well it has got everything it deserves in life... which is something to be pleased about i guess... Smile

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:42 am

yuck the smell of rot has just turned up again , i do hope it(sassy)fooks off

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:44 am

Vicar of Dibley wrote:yuck the smell of rot has just turned up again , i do hope it(sassy)fooks off

if it has been ill as long as it makes out how come it isn't dead.... Smile

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:44 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
mentor wrote:

any allergy is an abberant and over strong immune respose.

i.e your body recting with an immune response to things it really should not

hay fever...a reaction to pollen

dermatitis an immune response to a skin irritant

allergic arthritis an immune response to a number of different things..(in my case a bacteria known as mycoplasma) which also attacks joint tissue...

etc etc etc....

True, but the immune system is reacting to outside substances - wouldn't anti-inflammatories be sufficient?

mmm...not always, and they are not that good either

you have a choice of steroids (nasty) or nsaids (non steroidal anti inflammatories) like asprin or the various nurofen type drugs (a favourite is ketoprofen)

the pproblem with them is stomach damage ...ulcers and bleeding...

not to mention possible liver and kidney damage with long term use
and they only really treat the symptoms

methotrexate is prefered becasue it directly affects the immune response, rather than just the symptoms.....but its ...nasty

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:46 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
mentor wrote:

well what you got

I have psoriatic arthropathy ...well I did have......

(try saying THAT when you have had a few..... )

Ah, psoriatic arthritis? A nasty condition, but there's lots of research going into it.

tell me about it.....

I had a hell of a job getting the treatment I was on...its not licenced over in britain......the treatment I had is an americam protocol.

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:47 am

mentor wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

True, but the immune system is reacting to outside substances - wouldn't anti-inflammatories be sufficient?

mmm...not always, and they are not that good either

you have a choice of steroids (nasty) or nsaids (non steroidal anti inflammatories) like asprin or the various nurofen type drugs (a favourite is ketoprofen)

the pproblem with them is stomach damage ...ulcers and bleeding...

not to mention possible liver and kidney damage with long term use
and they only really treat the symptoms

methotrexate is prefered becasue it directly affects the immune response, rather than just the symptoms.....but its ...nasty

Reading about a case of young girl who had the same thing, it gave her her life back, although as you say, it wasn't nice, but worth it.

by Raggamuffin Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:47 am

mentor wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

True, but the immune system is reacting to outside substances - wouldn't anti-inflammatories be sufficient?

mmm...not always, and they are not that good either

you have a choice of steroids (nasty) or nsaids (non steroidal anti inflammatories) like asprin or the various nurofen type drugs (a favourite is ketoprofen)

the pproblem with them is stomach damage ...ulcers and bleeding...

not to mention possible liver and kidney damage with long term use
and they only really treat the symptoms

methotrexate is prefered becasue it directly affects the immune response, rather than just the symptoms.....but its ...nasty

Agreed. I don't think that steroids or NSAIDs are that effective anyway.

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:47 am

mentor wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

True, but the immune system is reacting to outside substances - wouldn't anti-inflammatories be sufficient?

mmm...not always, and they are not that good either

you have a choice of steroids (nasty) or nsaids (non steroidal anti inflammatories) like asprin or the various nurofen type drugs (a favourite is ketoprofen)

the pproblem with them is stomach damage ...ulcers and bleeding...

not to mention possible liver and kidney damage with long term use
and they only really treat the symptoms

methotrexate is prefered becasue it directly affects the immune response, rather than just the symptoms.....but its ...nasty

sounds great and we give this stuff to sick people , can we get spassy some...

by Raggamuffin Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:48 am

mentor wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Ah, psoriatic arthritis? A nasty condition, but there's lots of research going into it.

tell me about it.....

I had a hell of a job getting the treatment I was on...its not licenced over in britain......the treatment I had is an americam protocol.

I wouldn't call that allergic arthritis though.

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:48 am

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:yuck the smell of rot has just turned up again , i do hope it(sassy)fooks off

if it has been ill as long as it makes out how come it isn't dead....

i'm not bothered as long as it keeps its filth away from us very spiteful nasty vile revolting woman .

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:50 am

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

if it has been ill as long as it makes out how come it isn't dead....

i'm not bothered as long as it keeps its filth away from us very spiteful nasty vile revolting woman .

yeah can you remember when she lied about her dead daughter to get sympathy, how sick was that....

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:51 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
mentor wrote:

mmm...not always, and they are not that good either

you have a choice of steroids (nasty) or nsaids (non steroidal anti inflammatories) like asprin or the various nurofen type drugs (a favourite is ketoprofen)

the pproblem with them is stomach damage ...ulcers and bleeding...

not to mention possible liver and kidney damage with long term use
and they only really treat the symptoms

methotrexate is prefered becasue it directly affects the immune response, rather than just the symptoms.....but its ...nasty

Agreed. I don't think that steroids or NSAIDs are that effective anyway.

well...they help a bit...sort of knock the edges off it a bit but no you are right...not very effective

for when it was bad , so I could get at least a nights sleep the doc gave me kapake

2 tablets 30mg codeine 500mg paracetamol

so 60mg codeine

I take those two tablets and spend 4 hrs with the fairies....

my god thats strong stuff.......

by Raggamuffin Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:51 am

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:

i'm not bothered as long as it keeps its filth away from us very spiteful nasty vile revolting woman .

yeah can you remember when she lied about her dead daughter to get sympathy, how sick was that....

You should stop that as well.

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:51 am

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:

i'm not bothered as long as it keeps its filth away from us very spiteful nasty vile revolting woman .

yeah can you remember when she lied about her dead daughter to get sympathy, how sick was that....

now on ignore

by Raggamuffin Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:52 am

mentor wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Agreed. I don't think that steroids or NSAIDs are that effective anyway.

well...they help a bit...sort of knock the edges off it a bit but no you are right...not very effective

for when it was bad , so I could get at least a nights sleep the doc gave me kapake

2 tablets 30mg codeine 500mg paracetamol

so 60mg codeine

I take those two tablets and spend 4 hrs with the fairies....

my god thats strong stuff.......

Codeine - fabulous!

You're not supposed to take it all the time though. Laughing

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:52 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

yeah can you remember when she lied about her dead daughter to get sympathy, how sick was that....

You should stop that as well.

thanks ragga...i know we fall out now and again...but.......

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:53 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
mentor wrote:

well...they help a bit...sort of knock the edges off it a bit but no you are right...not very effective

for when it was bad , so I could get at least a nights sleep the doc gave me kapake

2 tablets 30mg codeine 500mg paracetamol

so 60mg codeine

I take those two tablets and spend 4 hrs with the fairies....

my god thats strong stuff.......

Codeine - fabulous!

You're not supposed to take it all the time though.

yeah...I know...for a number of good reasons...

number 1.....

if i take it 3 days in a row....i dont have a crap...I lay corner stones....

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:54 am

scuse me..... Embarassed

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:54 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

yeah can you remember when she lied about her dead daughter to get sympathy, how sick was that....

You should stop that as well.

she's just a sad lonely faking old cow, it's not my fault she made up a death to get sympathy...

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:55 am

and ...one could get to like it too much

so i try to only take it when the odd "flare " hits hard, and stops me sleeping

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:55 am

mentor wrote:scuse me.....

LOL!

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:56 am

I wish people would stop wishing cancer and death on us , sassy came onto this thread to stir up trouble saying what she did .
I dont like any of it but it pisses me off that you mentor can't condemn what she said but you will condemn HF when he retaliates .

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:57 am

Vicar of Dibley wrote:I wish people would stop wishing cancer and death on us , sassy came onto this thread to stir up trouble saying what she did .
I dont like any of it but it pisses me off that you mentor can't condemn what she said but you will condemn HF when he retaliates .

they seem to have their own rules to themselves..... Smile

by Raggamuffin Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:57 am

mentor wrote:and ...one could get to like it too much

so i try to only take it when the odd "flare " hits hard, and stops me sleeping

That much codeine will send you off to sleep anyway. Laughing

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:58 am

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You should stop that as well.

she's just a sad lonely faking old cow, it's not my fault she made up a death to get sympathy...

don't be as low as her please she has done exactly what she set out to do tonight she wanted you to mention her daughter she want's us banned and she knows exactly which buttons to press to get it . She is very twisted and bitter i think we should keep her on ignore and not give her the time of the day she isn't worth it x

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:58 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
mentor wrote:and ...one could get to like it too much

so i try to only take it when the odd "flare " hits hard, and stops me sleeping

That much codeine will send you off to sleep anyway.

Is it ok if i wish cancer on spassy???

by Raggamuffin Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:59 am

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You should stop that as well.

she's just a sad lonely faking old cow, it's not my fault she made up a death to get sympathy...

I've also said that she shouldn't have wished cancer on you.

This is just escalating though.

Mentor and I are posting around it and talking about drugs. Laughing

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:00 am

Raggamuffin wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

she's just a sad lonely faking old cow, it's not my fault she made up a death to get sympathy...

I've also said that she shouldn't have wished cancer on you.

This is just escalating though.

Mentor and I are posting around it and talking about drugs.

good for you , i'm far more interested in spassy getting cancer to be honest, oh hang on.....lol

by Irn Bru Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:00 am

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

if it has been ill as long as it makes out how come it isn't dead....

i'm not bothered as long as it keeps its filth away from us very spiteful nasty vile revolting woman .

yeah can you remember when she lied about her dead daughter to get sympathy, how sick was that....

That is disgusting and shows just how sick you are in coming out with that. And you had the cheek to complain about KD.

You are one sick dude and never a christian.

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