Boko Haram kills nearly 200 Nigerians in 48-hour spree

Kano (Nigeria) (AFP) - Boko Haram carried out a fresh wave of massacres in northeastern Nigeria on Friday, locals said, killing nearly 200 people in 48 hours of violence President Muhammadu Buhari blasted as "inhuman and barbaric".

The militants have staged multiple attacks across restive Borno state since Wednesday, gunning down worshippers at evening Ramadan prayers, shooting women in their homes, and dragging men from their beds in the dead of night.

A young female suicide bomber also killed 12 worshippers when she blew herself up in a mosque in Borno. While there was no immediate claim of responsibility, Boko Haram has used both men and young women and girls as human bombs in the past.

And as night fell, Nigerian troops battled "hordes of Boko Haram gunmen" who seemed set on attacking the state capital Maiduguri, the birthplace of the extremist Islamist movement.

"President Muhammadu Buhari has condemned the latest wave of killings... describing them as most inhuman and barbaric," the presidency said in a statement.

The bloodshed is the worst since Buhari came to power in May, vowing to root out the insurgency that has claimed more than 15,000 lives.

http://news.yahoo.com/nigerian-leader-condemns-inhuman-barbaric-boko-haram-attacks-135249565.html

just so wrong and sick, what have we got to do to stop this madness...

I fear these kind of stories will just get worse and more frequent

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:just so wrong and sick, what have we got to do to stop this madness...

Vote, eat your Cheerios and do what your mother tells you. Go to church, clean up your room and make your bed. Do your own chores and leave the rest of the world to take care of itself.

It's not our problem. Presumptive do-gooders meddling in the affairs of others is how the world goes wrong.

Original Quill wrote:

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:just so wrong and sick, what have we got to do to stop this madness...

Vote, eat your Cheerios and do what your mother tells you.  Go to church, clean up your room and make your bed.  Do your own chores and leave the rest of the world to take care of itself.

It's not our problem.  Presumptive do-gooders meddling in the affairs of others is how the world goes wrong.

I find that lacking in every shape or form to it not being the worlds problem.
We are all human and one species. Many nations are very much connected through business Thus ay wrongs done to humans is the worlds problem to be dealt with fairly and effectively. Do-gooders rightfully meddled with protecting Poland from being invaded and brought us into WW2 which stopped a real global threat. Islamic extremism is a global threat one played out mostly in the Muslim world. In time this will extend more and more to the rest of the world when one of the major two powers gains supremacy in the Middle east.
It is the most natural and rational thing to do to stop a real threat. That threat is very real.

Cuchulain wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Vote, eat your Cheerios and do what your mother tells you.  Go to church, clean up your room and make your bed.  Do your own chores and leave the rest of the world to take care of itself.

It's not our problem.  Presumptive do-gooders meddling in the affairs of others is how the world goes wrong.

I find that lacking in every shape or form to it not being the worlds problem.
We are all human and one species. Many nations are very much connected through business Thus ay wrongs done to humans is the worlds problem to be dealt with fairly and effectively. Do-gooders rightfully meddled with protecting Poland from being invaded and brought us into WW2 which stopped a real global threat. Islamic extremism is a global threat one played out mostly in the Muslim world. In time this will extend more and more to the rest of the world when one of the major two powers gains supremacy in the Middle east.
It is the most natural and rational thing to do to stop a real threat. That threat is very real.

says the nazi who would force every patient in to treatment or vaccines .....

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:


I find that lacking in every shape or form to it not being the worlds problem.
We are all human and one species. Many nations are very much connected through business Thus ay wrongs done to humans is the worlds problem to be dealt with fairly and effectively. Do-gooders rightfully meddled with protecting Poland from being invaded and brought us into WW2 which stopped a real global threat. Islamic extremism is a global threat one played out mostly in the Muslim world. In time this will extend more and more to the rest of the world when one of the major two powers gains supremacy in the Middle east.
It is the most natural and rational thing to do to stop a real threat. That threat is very real.

says the nazi who would force every patient in to treatment or vaccines .....

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Cuchulain wrote:

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

says the nazi who would force every patient in to treatment or vaccines .....

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ha ha ha a bit to close to the truth for mister bigot, force my views and opinions on everyone didge...lol

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:


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Immature smile's and lol's

ha ha ha a bit to close to the truth for mister bigot, force my views and opinions on everyone didge...lol

3deflections played by HF

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Incorrect claims to victim status

Immature smile's and lol's

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:


I find that lacking in every shape or form to it not being the worlds problem.
We are all human and one species. Many nations are very much connected through business Thus ay wrongs done to humans is the worlds problem to be dealt with fairly and effectively. Do-gooders rightfully meddled with protecting Poland from being invaded and brought us into WW2 which stopped a real global threat. Islamic extremism is a global threat one played out mostly in the Muslim world. In time this will extend more and more to the rest of the world when one of the major two powers gains supremacy in the Middle east.
It is the most natural and rational thing to do to stop a real threat. That threat is very real.

says the nazi who would force every patient in to treatment or vaccines .....

Funny you mention the Nazi


Hitler was a Christian

Hitler’s involvement with the Church:

a) Hitler was baptized as Roman Catholic during infancy in Austria.

b) As Hitler approached boyhood he attended a monastery school. (On his way to school young Adolf daily observed a stone arch which was carved with the monastery’s coat of arms bearing a swastika.)

c) Hitler was a communicant and an altar boy in the Catholic Church.

d) As a young man he was confirmed as a “soldier of Christ.” His most ardent goal at the time was to become a priest. Hitler writes of his love for the church and clergy: “I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn splendor of the brilliant church festivals. As was only natural, the abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my father, the highest and most desirable ideal.” -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

e) Hitler was NEVER excommunicated nor condemned by his church. Matter of fact the Church felt he was JUST and “avenging for God” in attacking the Jews for they deemed the Semites the killers of Jesus.

f) Hitler, Franco and Mussolini were given VETO power over whom the pope could appoint as a bishop in Germany, Spain and Italy. In turn they surtaxed the Catholics and gave the money to the Vatican. Hitler wrote a speech in which he talks about this alliance, this is an excerpt: “The fact that the Vatican is concluding a treaty with the new Germany means the acknowledgement of the National Socialist state by the Catholic Church. This treaty shows the whole world clearly and unequivocally that the assertion that National Socialism [Nazism] is hostile to religion is a lie.” Adolf Hitler, 22 July 1933, writing to the Nazi Party

Hitler and the Popeg) Hitler worked CLOSELY with Pope Pius in converting Germanic society and supporting the church. The Church absorbed Nazi ideals and preached them as part of their sermons in turn Hitler placed Catholic teachings in public education. This photo depicts Hitler with Archbishop Cesare Orsenigo, the papal nuncio in Berlin. It was taken On April 20, 1939, when Orsenigo celebrated Hitler’s birthday. The celebrations were initiated by Pacelli (Pope Pius XII) and became a tradition.

Each April 20, Cardinal Bertram of Berlin was to send “warmest congratulations to the Fuhrer in the name of the bishops and the dioceses in Germany with “fervent prayers which the Catholics of Germany are sending to heaven on their altars.” (If you would like to know more about the secret dealings of Hitler and the Pope I recommend you get a book titled: Hitler’s Pope: The Secret History of Pius XII, by John Cornwell)

h) Due to Hitler’s involvement with the Church he began enacting doctrines of the Church as law. He outlawed all abortion, raged a death war on all homosexuals, and demanded corporal punishment in schools and home. Many times Hitler addressed the church and promised that Germany would implement its teachings: “The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity. It will be its honest endeavor to protect both the great Christian Confessions in their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines (Lehren), and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of the State of today.” –Adolf Hitler, on 26 June 1934, to Catholic bishops to assure them that he would take action against the new pagan propaganda “Providence has caused me to be Catholic, and I know therefore how to handle this Church.” -Adolf Hitler, reportedly to have said in Berlin in 1936 on the enmity of the Catholic Church to National Socialism

korban dallas wrote:

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

says the nazi who would force every patient in to treatment or vaccines .....

Funny you mention the Nazi


Hitler was a Christian

Hitler’s involvement with the Church:

a) Hitler was baptized as Roman Catholic during infancy in Austria.

b) As Hitler approached boyhood he attended a monastery school.  (On his way to school young Adolf daily observed a stone arch which was carved with the monastery’s coat of arms bearing a swastika.)

c) Hitler was a communicant and an altar boy in the Catholic Church.

d) As a young man he was confirmed as a “soldier of Christ.”  His most ardent goal at the time was to become a priest.  Hitler writes of his love for the church and clergy: “I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn splendor of the brilliant church festivals.  As was only natural, the abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my father, the highest and most desirable ideal.”  -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

e) Hitler was NEVER excommunicated nor condemned by his church.  Matter of fact the Church felt he was JUST and “avenging for God” in attacking the Jews for they deemed the Semites the killers of Jesus.

f) Hitler, Franco and Mussolini were given VETO power over whom the pope could appoint as a bishop in Germany, Spain and Italy.  In turn they surtaxed the Catholics and gave the money to the Vatican.  Hitler wrote a speech in which he talks about this alliance, this is an excerpt: “The fact that the Vatican is concluding a treaty with the new Germany means the acknowledgement of the National Socialist state by the Catholic Church.  This treaty shows the whole world clearly and unequivocally that the assertion that National Socialism [Nazism] is hostile to religion is a lie.”  Adolf Hitler, 22 July 1933, writing to the Nazi Party

Hitler and the Popeg) Hitler worked CLOSELY with Pope Pius in converting Germanic society and supporting the church.  The Church absorbed Nazi ideals and preached them as part of their sermons in turn Hitler placed Catholic teachings in public education.  This photo depicts Hitler with Archbishop Cesare Orsenigo, the papal nuncio in Berlin.  It was taken On April 20, 1939, when Orsenigo celebrated Hitler’s birthday.  The celebrations were initiated by Pacelli (Pope Pius XII) and became a tradition.

Each April 20, Cardinal Bertram of Berlin was to send “warmest congratulations to the Fuhrer in the name of the bishops and the dioceses in Germany with “fervent prayers which the Catholics of Germany are sending to heaven on their altars.”  (If you would like to know more about the secret dealings of Hitler and the Pope I recommend you get a book titled: Hitler’s Pope: The Secret History of Pius XII, by John Cornwell)

h) Due to Hitler’s involvement with the Church he began enacting doctrines of the Church as law.  He outlawed all abortion, raged a death war on all homosexuals, and demanded corporal punishment in schools and home.  Many times Hitler addressed the church and promised that Germany would implement its teachings: “The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity.  It will be its honest endeavor to protect both the great Christian Confessions in their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines (Lehren), and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of the State of today.”  –Adolf Hitler, on 26 June 1934, to Catholic bishops to assure them that he would take action against the new pagan propaganda “Providence has caused me to be Catholic, and I know therefore how to handle this Church.”  -Adolf Hitler, reportedly to have said in Berlin in 1936 on the enmity of the Catholic Church to National Socialism

lol hitler was a Christian..oh my....

He was a Christian.

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“The anti-Semitism of the new movement (Christian Social movement)
was based on religious ideas instead of racial knowledge.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 3]

“I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty
Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord’s work.”

[Adolph Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936]

“I have followed [the Church] in giving our party program the
character of unalterable finality, like the Creed. The Church has
never allowed the Creed to be interfered with. It is fifteen hundred
years since it was formulated, but every suggestion for its
amendment, every logical criticism, or attack on it, has been
rejected. The Church has realized that anything and everything can be
built up on a document of that sort, no matter how contradictory or
irreconcilable with it. The faithful will swallow it whole, so long
as logical reasoning is never allowed to be brought to bear on it.”

[Adolf Hitler, from Rauschning, _The Voice of Destruction_, pp. 239-40]

“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian
and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord
at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the
Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight
against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with
deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact
that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As
a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have
the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is
anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is
the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty
to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and
work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only
for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning
and see these men standing in their queues and look into their
pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very
devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two
thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people
are plundered and exposed.”

[Adolf Hitler, speech in Munich on April 12, 1922, countering a
political opponent, Count Lerchenfeld, who opposed antisemitism on
his personal Christian feelings. Published in “My New Order”, quoted
in Freethought Today April 1990]

“I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of
the Almighty Creator.”

[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 46]

“What we have to fight for…is the freedom and independence of the
fatherland, so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the mission
assigned to it by the Creator.”

[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 125]

“This human world of ours would be inconceivable without the
practical existence of a religious belief.”

[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.152]

“And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of his
estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary, He drove
those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God.”

[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.174]

“Catholics and Protestants are fighting with one another… while the
enemy of Aryan humanity and all Christendom is laughing up his sleeve.”

[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.309]

“I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so”

[Adolph Hitler, to Gen. Gerhard Engel, 1941]

“Any violence which does not spring from a spiritual base, will be
wavering and uncertain. It lacks the stability which can only rest in
a fanatical outlook.”

[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, p. 171]

“I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn
splendor of the brilliant church festivals. As was only natural, the
abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my
father, the highest and most desirable ideal.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 1]

“I was not in agreement with the sharp anti-Semitic tone, but from
time to time I read arguments which gave me some food for thought. At
all events, these occasions slowly made me acquainted with the man
and the movement, which in those days guided Vienna’s destinies: Dr.
Karl Lueger and the Christian Social Party.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 2]

“…the unprecedented rise of the Christian Social Party… was to
assume the deepest significance for me as a classical object of study.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 3]

“As long as leadership from above was not lacking, the people
fulfilled their duty and obligation overwhelmingly. Whether
Protestant pastor or Catholic priest, both together and particularly
at the first flare, there really existed in both camps but a single
holy German Reich, for whose existence and future each man turned to
his own heaven.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 3]

“Political parties has nothing to do with religious problems, as long
as these are not alien to the nation, undermining the morals and
ethics of the race; just as religion cannot be amalgamated with the
scheming of political parties.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 3]

“For the political leader the religious doctrines and institutions of
his people must always remain inviolable; or else has no right to be
in politics, but should become a reformer, if he has what it takes!

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 3]

“In nearly all the matters in which the Pan-German movement was
wanting, the attitude of the Christian Social Party was correct and
well-planned.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 3]

“It [Christian Social Party] recognized the value of large-scale
propaganda and was a virtuoso in influencing the psychological
instincts of the broad masses of its adherents.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 3]

“If Dr. Karl Lueger had lived in Germany, he would have been ranked
among the great minds of our people.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 3, about the leader of
the Christian Social movement]

“Even today I am not ashamed to say that, overpowered by stormy
enthusiasm, I fell down on my knees and thanked Heaven from an
overflowing heart for granting me the good fortune of being permitted
to live at this time.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 5]

“I had so often sung ‘Deutschland u:ber Alles’ and shouted ‘Heil’ at
the top of my lungs, that it seemed to me almost a belated act of
grace to be allowed to stand as a witness in the divine court of the
eternal judge and proclaim the sincerity of this conviction.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 5]

“Only in the steady and constant application of force lies the very
first prerequisite for success. This persistence, however, can always
and only arise from a definite spiritual conviction. Any violence
which does not spring from a firm, spiritual base, will be wavering
and uncertain.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 5]

“I soon realized that the correct use of propaganda is a true art
which has remained practically unknown to the bourgeois parties. Only
the Christian- Social movement, especially in Lueger’s time achieved
a certain virtuosity on this instrument, to which it owed many of its
success.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 6]

“Once again the songs of the fatherland roared to the heavens along
the endless marching columns, and for the last time the Lord’s grace
smiled on His ungrateful children.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 7, reflecting on World
War I]

“The more abstractly correct and hence powerful this idea will be,
the more impossible remains its complete fulfillment as long as it
continues to depend on human beings… If this were not so, the
founders of religion could not be counted among the greatest men of
this earth… In its workings, even the religion of love is only the
weak reflection of the will of its exalted founder; its significance,
however, lies in the direction which it attempted to give to a
universal human development of culture, ethics, and morality.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 8]

“To them belong, not only the truly great statesmen, but all other
great reformers as well. Beside Frederick the Great stands Martin
Luther as well as Richard Wagner.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 8]

“The fight against syphilis demands a fight against prostitution,
against prejudices, old habits, against previous conceptions, general
views among them not least the false prudery of certain circles. The
first prerequisite for even the moral right to combat these things is
the facilitation of earlier marriage for the coming generation. In
late marriage alone lies the compulsion to retain an institution
which, twist and turn as you like, is and remains a disgrace to
humanity, an institution which is damned ill-suited to a being who
with his usual modesty likes to regard himself as the ‘image’ of God.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 10]

“Parallel to the training of the body a struggle against the
poisoning of the soul must begin. Our whole public life today is like
a hothouse for sexual ideas and simulations. Just look at the bill of
fare served up in our movies, vaudeville and theaters, and you will
hardly be able to deny that this is not the right kind of food,
particularly for the youth…Theater, art, literature, cinema, press,
posters, and window displays must be cleansed of all manifestations
of our rotting world and placed in the service of a moral, political,
and cultural idea.”

[Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 10, echoing the Cultural
Warfare rhetoric of the Religious Right]

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/08/23/list-of-hitler-quotes-he-was-q/


Countless more on the link.

lol, Hitler was no Christian...that is quite obvious....

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:lol, Hitler was no Christian...that is quite obvious....

2 deflections played by HF:

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Immature smile's and lol's

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:lol, Hitler was no Christian...that is quite obvious....

yes when proved wrong switch to denial its what you do even when countless facts and his own words prove you wrong



LOL

korban dallas wrote:

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:lol, Hitler was no Christian...that is quite obvious....

yes when proved wrong switch to denial its what you do even when countless facts and his own words prove you wrong



LOL

lol coming from you that's rich....

ok my wife and I are not Christians according to you and others what reasons would you give??

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

korban dallas wrote:
yes when proved wrong switch to denial its what you do even when countless facts and his own words prove you wrong



LOL

lol coming from you that's rich....

ok my wife and I are not Christians according to you and others what reasons would you give??

3 deflections played by HF

Avoid the answers

Incorrect claims to victim status

Immature smile's and lol's

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

korban dallas wrote:
yes when proved wrong switch to denial its what you do even when countless facts and his own words prove you wrong



LOL

lol coming from you that's rich....

ok my wife and I are not Christians according to you and others what reasons would you give??

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i like this game

And you haven`t proved me wrong once

is that 4 ?

I think korban cacked his pants and run....

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:I think korban cacked his pants and run....

run ?

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korban dallas wrote:

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:I think korban cacked his pants and run....

run ?

5  deflections played by HF

so answer my question if yu can???

korban dallas wrote:

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

lol coming from you that's rich....

ok my wife and I are not Christians according to you and others what reasons would you give??

3 deflections played by HF



i like this game

And you haven`t proved me wrong once

is that 4 ?

Its great and he cannot figure it out yet which is brilliant mate. All he ends up doing is proving me right.
Where there's a will, there's a way to thwart his poor constant deflections mate
Nah Dibs was not involved so I cannot claim the gang mentality deflection.

so spamming is great thats cool....

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:I think korban cacked his pants and run....

The below highlighted in red is what deflections HF played


Out of the four types of deflections used below. One was used in the above post:




ncorrect claims to victim status when you have never claimed all Christians are horrible, you have rightly stated just like me, that sadly some are brainwashed with Pauline Christianity, which makes up the bible they follow today. Even though they have no evidence or substance to back a view the bible was compiled correctly. In fact we have often repeated we like many Christians who follow love
They however seeks to cast all Homosexuals and know very well they are doing this. They have no homosexual friends. Its a con to poorly attempt to pull the wool over the eyes of people here by pulling the
"I have homosexual friends card". Knowing full well what type of people say that.

Avoid the answers  They do this very well. As soon as they are faced with the facts to their points. They ignore what has been said and about 5 posts later bring up the same points from before that have been answered to once again poorly deflect.

Immature smile's and lol's  They stupidly think people are put off the points of the debate by doing this. If you have noticed myself and Ben have been taking the piss with this and over accentuating the same as we do with Tommy and his massive gaps between sentences. Its a ploy to try to throw people off with silly short replies which again ignore the points

Gang Mentality husband and wife double act  This normally comes into play when they have exhausted all  of the above and nothing has worked. They fling in insults and I mean insults not banter, which is fine or distractions like throwing in things they think people have said on an entirely different debate. Again in the last ditch attempt to throw the poster off and get them to talk about this new irrelevant point they have thrown in This they do in the last resort talking between each other in the hope nobody will reply a conversation between each other....

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:so spamming is great thats cool....

Highlighted in red is the deflection HF is playing :



Out of the four types of deflections used below. One was used in the above post:




ncorrect claims to victim status when you have never claimed all Christians are horrible, you have rightly stated just like me, that sadly some are brainwashed with Pauline Christianity, which makes up the bible they follow today. Even though they have no evidence or substance to back a view the bible was compiled correctly. In fact we have often repeated we like many Christians who follow love
They however seeks to cast all Homosexuals and know very well they are doing this. They have no homosexual friends. Its a con to poorly attempt to pull the wool over the eyes of people here by pulling the
"I have homosexual friends card". Knowing full well what type of people say that.

Avoid the answers  They do this very well. As soon as they are faced with the facts to their points. They ignore what has been said and about 5 posts later bring up the same points from before that have been answered to once again poorly deflect.

Immature smile's and lol's  They stupidly think people are put off the points of the debate by doing this. If you have noticed myself and Ben have been taking the piss with this and over accentuating the same as we do with Tommy and his massive gaps between sentences. Its a ploy to try to throw people off with silly short replies which again ignore the points

Gang Mentality husband and wife double act  This normally comes into play when they have exhausted all  of the above and nothing has worked. They fling in insults and I mean insults not banter, which is fine or distractions like throwing in things they think people have said on an entirely different debate. Again in the last ditch attempt to throw the poster off and get them to talk about this new irrelevant point they have thrown in This they do in the last resort talking between each other in the hope nobody will reply a conversation between each other....

I will now also add a fifth deflection which has just come back:




Out of the four types of deflections used below. One was used in the above post:

Play the post the signature card. This is the HF is totally wound up deflection as he know is comically and deliberately copying and pasting into the end of his posts the picture again.


ncorrect claims to victim status when you have never claimed all Christians are horrible, you have rightly stated just like me, that sadly some are brainwashed with Pauline Christianity, which makes up the bible they follow today. Even though they have no evidence or substance to back a view the bible was compiled correctly. In fact we have often repeated we like many Christians who follow love
They however seeks to cast all Homosexuals and know very well they are doing this. They have no homosexual friends. Its a con to poorly attempt to pull the wool over the eyes of people here by pulling the
"I have homosexual friends card". Knowing full well what type of people say that.

Avoid the answers  They do this very well. As soon as they are faced with the facts to their points. They ignore what has been said and about 5 posts later bring up the same points from before that have been answered to once again poorly deflect.

Immature smile's and lol's  They stupidly think people are put off the points of the debate by doing this. If you have noticed myself and Ben have been taking the piss with this and over accentuating the same as we do with Tommy and his massive gaps between sentences. Its a ploy to try to throw people off with silly short replies which again ignore the points

Gang Mentality husband and wife double act  This normally comes into play when they have exhausted all  of the above and nothing has worked. They fling in insults and I mean insults not banter, which is fine or distractions like throwing in things they think people have said on an entirely different debate. Again in the last ditch attempt to throw the poster off and get them to talk about this new irrelevant point they have thrown in This they do in the last resort talking between each other in the hope nobody will reply a conversation between each other....

did anyone notice if dallas answered my question, I assume he won't be able to, it's just tough to keep track with all this spamming the boards....

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:did anyone notice if dallas answered my question, I assume he won't be able to, it's just tough to keep track with all this spamming the boards....

. They ignore what has been said and about 5 posts later bring up the same points from before that have been answered to once again poorly deflect.

i have repeatedly said why even though you claim to be a Christian your not
its based on a selective and bigoted reading of the bible

but you have repeatedly refused to say what branch of Christianity you claim to follow a question
I have asked you repeatedly  
and now  you demand answers from others while avoiding answering questions put to you  

so lets have an answer to my question i put repeatedly this past week

6 deflections played by HF

korban dallas wrote:

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:did anyone notice if dallas answered my question, I assume he won't be able to, it's just tough to keep track with all this spamming the boards....

. They ignore what has been said and about 5 posts later bring up the same points from before that have been answered to once again poorly deflect.

i have repeatedly said why even though you claim to be a Christian and yet its based on a selective reading of the bible

but you have repeatedly refused to say what branch of Christianity you claim to follow a question
I have asked you repeatedly  
and now  you demand answers from others while avoiding answering questions put to you  

so lets have an answer to my question i put repeatedly this past week

your answer got lost in a huge pile of do, in this case didgerydooo....


so you judge dibs and myself not to be Christians on your claim that we only use selective scriptures to follow....

I have told you before we are bible believing Christians, we believe the bible to be the word of God and try to follow it's teachings, so we aren't hiding anything...

can you please tell us what scriptures convince you that hitler was a Christian, what scriptures did he obviously follow...??

korban dallas wrote:

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:did anyone notice if dallas answered my question, I assume he won't be able to, it's just tough to keep track with all this spamming the boards....

. They ignore what has been said and about 5 posts later bring up the same points from before that have been answered to once again poorly deflect.

i have repeatedly said why even though you claim to be a Christian your not
its based on a selective and bigoted reading of the bible

but you have repeatedly refused to say what branch of Christianity you claim to follow a question
I have asked you repeatedly  
and now  you demand answers from others while avoiding answering questions put to you  

so lets have an answer to my question i put repeatedly this past week

6 deflections played by HF

Have fun Korben

Am now off out, so enjoy.

“I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so”

[Adolph Hitler, to Gen. Gerhard Engel, 1941]

take your time dallas I know it's a tough question, there must be so many scriptures hitler followed to show what a great Christian he was...

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

korban dallas wrote:
. They ignore what has been said and about 5 posts later bring up the same points from before that have been answered to once again poorly deflect.

i have repeatedly said why even though you claim to be a Christian and yet its based on a selective reading of the bible

but you have repeatedly refused to say what branch of Christianity you claim to follow a question
I have asked you repeatedly  
and now  you demand answers from others while avoiding answering questions put to you  

so lets have an answer to my question i put repeatedly this past week

your answer got lost in a huge pile of do, in this case didgerydooo....


so you judge dibs and myself not to be Christians on your claim that we only use selective scriptures to follow....

I have told you before we are bible believing Christians, we believe the bible to be the word of God and try to follow it's teachings, so we aren't hiding anything...

can you please tell us what scriptures convince you that hitler was a Christian, what scriptures did he obviously follow...??

LOl you don`t even know who your talking to your that far gone

i am not didge idiot

and the weight of history published facts and photos show quite clearly Hitler believed he was a Christian just like you believe you are and as usual you ignore it because you made a comment that was soooo easily proved false
and now your embarrassment is showing
his own words

korban dallas wrote:

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

your answer got lost in a huge pile of do, in this case didgerydooo....


so you judge dibs and myself not to be Christians on your claim that we only use selective scriptures to follow....

I have told you before we are bible believing Christians, we believe the bible to be the word of God and try to follow it's teachings, so we aren't hiding anything...

can you please tell us what scriptures convince you that hitler was a Christian, what scriptures did he obviously follow...??

LOl you don`t even know who your talking to your that far gone

i am not didge idiot

and the weight of history published facts and photos show quite clearly Hitler believed he was a Christian just like you believe you are  and as usual you ignore it because you made a comment that was soooo easily proved false
and now your embarrassment is showing
his own words

i take it you can read, i said your answer was lost in doo it was the doo didge was spouting...

so the historic facts show hitler was a christian, would you like to cite some of the historic facts???

please embarass me some more with all the proof hitler followed scriptures and did not leave any out????

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:take your time dallas I know it's a tough question, there must be so many scriptures hitler followed to show what a great Christian he was...

My you have lost the plot haven`t you

if your going to ignore the answers and keep asking the same question

for one your user name takes the lords name in vain

How the Nazi Regime converted the people:

a) In the 1920s, Hitler’s German Workers’ Party (pre Nazi term) adopted a “Programme” with twenty-five points (the Nazi version of a constitution). In point twenty-four, their intent clearly demonstrates, from the very beginning, their stand in favor of a “positive” Christianity: “We demand liberty for all religious denominations in the State, so far as they are not a danger to it and do not militate against the morality and moral sense of the German race. The Party, as such, stands for positive Christianity, but does not bind itself in the matter of creed to any particular confession...”

b) The Nazi regime started a youth movement which preached its agenda to impressionable children. Hitler backed up the notion that all people need faith and religious education: “By helping to raise man above the level of bestial vegetation, faith contributes in reality to the securing and safeguarding of his existence. Take away from present-day mankind its education-based, religious- dogmatic principles-- or, practically speaking, ethical-moral principles-- by abolishing this religious education, but without replacing it by an equivalent, and the result will be a grave shock to the foundations of their existence.” – Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

c) The Nazi regime began to control schools insisting that Christianity was taught.

d) The Nazi regime included anti-Semitic Christian writings in textbooks and they were not removed from Christian doctrines until 1961.

e) The Nazi regime having full blown power over the people began to forcibly convert all its military.

Nazi Belt Bucklef) The Nazi regime forced the German soldiers to wear religious symbols such as the swastika and they placed religious sayings on military gear. An example here is this German army belt buckle (I believe my Opa had one) which reads “Gott Mit Uns”. For those of you who do not speak German it is translated as “God With Us”.

g) The German troops were often forced to get sprinkled with holy water and listen to a sermon by a Catholic priest before going out on a maneuver.

h) The Nazis created a secret service called the “SS Reich” that would act as spies on the dealings of other citizens. If anyone was suspected of heresy (Going not only against the Socialist party but CHURCH DOCTRINE) they would be prosecuted.

If Hitler was Christian and truly saved then he is in heaven now there's a loving and forgiving God for you .

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

korban dallas wrote:
LOl you don`t even know who your talking to your that far gone

i am not didge idiot

and the weight of history published facts and photos show quite clearly Hitler believed he was a Christian just like you believe you are  and as usual you ignore it because you made a comment that was soooo easily proved false
and now your embarrassment is showing
his own words

i take it you can read, i said your answer was lost in doo it was the doo didge was spouting...

so the historic facts show hitler was a christian, would you like to cite some of the historic facts???

please embarass me some more with all the proof hitler followed scriptures and did not leave any out????

No you said

"your answer got lost in a huge pile of do, in this case didgerydooo...."
obviously by any stranded of English you thought i was didge



not a Christian and a liar to boot

Vicar of Dibley wrote:If Hitler was Christian and truly saved then he is in heaven now there's a loving and forgiving God for you .

so hitlers in heaven ....holy fuck

korban dallas wrote:

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:take your time dallas I know it's a tough question, there must be so many scriptures hitler followed to show what a great Christian he was...

My you have lost the plot haven`t you

if your going to ignore the answers and keep asking the same question

for one your user name takes the lords name in vain

How the Nazi Regime converted the people:

a) In the 1920s, Hitler’s German Workers’ Party (pre Nazi term) adopted a “Programme” with twenty-five points (the Nazi version of a constitution).  In point twenty-four, their intent clearly demonstrates, from the very beginning, their stand in favor of a “positive” Christianity: “We demand liberty for all religious denominations in the State, so far as they are not a danger to it and do not militate against the morality and moral sense of the German race.  The Party, as such, stands for positive Christianity, but does not bind itself in the matter of creed to any particular confession...”

b) The Nazi regime started a youth movement which preached its agenda to impressionable children.  Hitler backed up the notion that all people need faith and religious education: “By helping to raise man above the level of bestial vegetation, faith contributes in reality to the securing and safeguarding of his existence.  Take away from present-day mankind its education-based, religious- dogmatic principles-- or, practically speaking, ethical-moral principles-- by abolishing this religious education, but without replacing it by an equivalent, and the result will be a grave shock to the foundations of their existence.”  – Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

c) The Nazi regime began to control schools insisting that Christianity was taught.

d) The Nazi regime included anti-Semitic Christian writings in textbooks and they were not removed from Christian doctrines until 1961.

e) The Nazi regime having full blown power over the people began to forcibly convert all its military.

Nazi Belt Bucklef) The Nazi regime forced the German soldiers to wear religious symbols such as the swastika and they placed religious sayings on military gear.  An example here is this German army belt buckle (I believe my Opa had one) which reads “Gott Mit Uns”.  For those of you who do not speak German it is translated as “God With Us”.

g) The German troops were often forced to get sprinkled with holy water and listen to a sermon by a Catholic priest before going out on a maneuver.

h) The Nazis created a secret service called the “SS Reich” that would act as spies on the dealings of other citizens.  If anyone was suspected of heresy (Going not only against the Socialist party but CHURCH DOCTRINE) they would be prosecuted.

have i really lost the plot, you was going to show me the scriptures hitler followed to be a Christian. as you said you must follow scripture to be a Christian, in fact you said yu must follow all scripture to be a Christian...

all you have showed me so far is propaganda....

do you think hitler loved gays and supported gay marriage, perhaps he was a very tolerant and loving man, kinda cuddly ...

korban dallas wrote:

Vicar of Dibley wrote:If Hitler was Christian and truly saved then he is in heaven now there's a loving and forgiving God for you .

so hitlers in heaven ....holy fuck

according to you he will be , you're the one who insists he was a Christian . So was he or wasn't he , make your mind up lol

Vicar of Dibley wrote:

korban dallas wrote:
so hitlers in heaven ....holy fuck

according to you he will be , you're the one who insists he was a Christian . So was he or wasn't he , make your mind up lol

lol very good question!!!

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

korban dallas wrote:
LOl you don`t even know who your talking to your that far gone

i am not didge idiot

and the weight of history published facts and photos show quite clearly Hitler believed he was a Christian just like you believe you are  and as usual you ignore it because you made a comment that was soooo easily proved false
and now your embarrassment is showing
his own words

i take it you can read, i said your answer was lost in doo it was the doo didge was spouting...

so the historic facts show hitler was a christian, would you like to cite some of the historic facts???

please embarass me some more with all the proof hitler followed scriptures and did not leave any out????

Highlighted in red is the deflections played in HF post


New deflections added.

Ignore the facts Card: Poster will close eyes to the facts/evidence presented by going;
la la la la la la la la.
Whilst at the same time claim historical facts by not even presenting any facts or evidence.


Play the post the signature card. This is the HF is totally wound up deflection as he know is comically and deliberately copying and pasting into the end of his posts the picture again and now post videos with the woeful intent to try and offend and fail badly.


Incorrect claims to victim status when you have never claimed all Christians are horrible, you have rightly stated just like me, that sadly some are brainwashed with Pauline Christianity, which makes up the bible they follow today. Even though they have no evidence or substance to back a view the bible was compiled correctly. In fact we have often repeated we like many Christians who follow love
They however seeks to cast all Homosexuals and know very well they are doing this. They have no homosexual friends. Its a con to poorly attempt to pull the wool over the eyes of people here by pulling the
"I have homosexual friends card". Knowing full well what type of people say that.

Avoid the answers  They do this very well. As soon as they are faced with the facts to their points. They ignore what has been said and about 5 posts later bring up the same points from before that have been answered to once again poorly deflect.

Immature smile's and lol's  They stupidly think people are put off the points of the debate by doing this. If you have noticed myself and Ben have been taking the piss with this and over accentuating the same as we do with Tommy and his massive gaps between sentences. Its a ploy to try to throw people off with silly short replies which again ignore the points

Gang Mentality husband and wife double act  This normally comes into play when they have exhausted all  of the above and nothing has worked. They fling in insults and I mean insults not banter, which is fine or distractions like throwing in things they think people have said on an entirely different debate. Again in the last ditch attempt to throw the poster off and get them to talk about this new irrelevant point they have thrown in This they do in the last resort talking between each other in the hope nobody will reply a conversation between each other....


On that note I shall catch you all later.

Vicar of Dibley wrote:

korban dallas wrote:
so hitlers in heaven ....holy fuck

according to you he will be , you're the one who insists he was a Christian . So was he or wasn't he , make your mind up lol

yes he was that`s a fact you deny in any rational way
and its you claiming he has gone to heaven after murdering millions of people
fuck what the hell did lucifer do to be cast out of heaven

korban dallas wrote:

Vicar of Dibley wrote:

according to you he will be , you're the one who insists he was a Christian . So was he or wasn't he , make your mind up lol

yes he was that`s a fact you deny in any rational way
and its you claiming he has gone to heaven after murdering millions of people  
fuck what the hell did lucifer do to be cast out of heaven

well there's a turn around, a very bad one, one minute you was proving hitler was a Christian , very badly by the way, now you claim we insist he was a Christian...

I think you lost the plot bud....

Cuchulain wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Vote, eat your Cheerios and do what your mother tells you.  Go to church, clean up your room and make your bed.  Do your own chores and leave the rest of the world to take care of itself.

It's not our problem.  Presumptive do-gooders meddling in the affairs of others is how the world goes wrong.

I find that lacking in every shape or form to it not being the worlds problem.
We are all human and one species. Many nations are very much connected through business Thus ay wrongs done to humans is the worlds problem to be dealt with fairly and effectively. Do-gooders rightfully meddled with protecting Poland from being invaded and brought us into WW2 which stopped a real global threat. Islamic extremism is a global threat one played out mostly in the Muslim world. In time this will extend more and more to the rest of the world when one of the major two powers gains supremacy in the Middle east.
It is the most natural and rational thing to do to stop a real threat. That threat is very real.

One thing it is not lacking in didge, is wisdom. Dig a little deeper and you will find the world is not as simple as you imagine. While you are out there righting so-called wrongs, you are creating new ones. What happened when Britain carved up the Ottoman Empire at the Cairo Conference of 1921? What happened when the US removed Saddam? What happened in the Balkins, Viet Nam and Somolia?

We were much better off when y'all followed a clear course of colonialism. At least we knew what to expect...pure greed. All this 'do-gooder' shit just makes it worse, for the simple reason we don't understand what's going on. It is arrogant and undemocratic to say that we can shape the future for others.

Quotes from Hitler:

   Hitler’s speeches and proclamations, even more clearly, reveal his faith and feelings toward a Christianized Germany.  Nazism presents an embarrassment to Christianity and demonstrates the danger of their faith So they try to pin him on other theistic views.  The following words from Hitler show his disdain for atheism, and pagan cults, and reveal the strength of his Christian feelings:

   “National Socialism is not a cult-movement-- a movement for worship; it is exclusively a ‘volkic’ political doctrine based upon racial principles.  In its purpose there is no mystic cult, only the care and leadership of a people defined by a common blood-relationship... We will not allow mystically- minded occult folk with a passion for exploring the secrets of the world beyond to steal into our Movement.  Such folk are not National Socialists, but something else-- in any case something which has nothing to do with us.  At the head of our programme there stand no secret surmisings but clear-cut perception and straightforward profession of belief.  But since we set as the central point of this perception and of this profession of belief the maintenance and hence the security for the future of a being formed by God, we thus serve the maintenance of a divine work and fulfill a divine will-- not in the secret twilight of a new house of worship, but openly before the face of the Lord…  Our worship is exclusively the cultivation of the natural, and for that reason, because natural, therefore God-willed.  Our humility is the unconditional submission before the divine laws of existence so far as they are known to us men.”  -Adolf Hitler, in Nuremberg on 6 Sept.1938.  [Christians have always accused Hitler of believing in pagan cult mythology. What is written here clearly expresses his stand against cults.]

   “We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith.  We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out.” -Adolf Hitler, in a speech in Berlin on 24 Oct. 1933 [This statement clearly refutes modern Christians who claim Hitler as favoring atheism.  Hitler wanted to form a society in which ALL people worshipped Jesus and considered any questioning of such to be heresy.  The Holocaust was like a modern inquisition, killing all who did not accept Jesus. Though more Jews were killed then any other it should be noted that MANY ARYAN pagans and atheists were murdered for their non-belief in Christ.]

   Here Hitler uses the Bible and his Christianity in order to attack the Jews and uphold his anti-Semitism:

   "My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter.  It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth!  was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter.  In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders.  How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison.  To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross.  As a Christian I have no duty to allow my self to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice…  And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows . For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people."  –Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed.  The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

   "Christianity could not content itself with building up its own altar; it was absolutely forced to undertake the destruction of the heathen altars.  Only from this fanatical intolerance could its apodictic faith take form; this intolerance is, in fact, its absolute presupposition." -Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (It is quite obvious here that Hitler is referring to destructing the Judaism alters on which Christianity was founded.)

   "The personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil assumes the living shape of the Jew."  -Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (The idea of the devil and the Jew came out of medieval anti-Jewish beliefs based on interpretations from the Bible. Martin Luther, and teachers after him, continued this “tradition” up until the 20th century.)

   "With satanic joy in his face, the black-haired Jewish youth lurks in wait for the unsuspecting girl whom he defiles with his blood, thus stealing her from her people." -Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (It is common in war for one race to rape another so that they can “defile” the race and assimilate their own.  Hitler speaks about this very tactic here.)    

   “The best characterization is provided by the product of this religious education, the Jew himself.  His life is only of this world, and his spirit is inwardly as alien to true Christianity as his nature two thousand years previous was to the great founder of the new doctrine.  Of course, the latter made no secret of his attitude toward the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took the whip to drive from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all humanity, who then as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument for his business existence.  In return, Christ was nailed to the cross, while our present- day party Christians debase themselves to begging for Jewish votes at elections and later try to arrange political swindles with atheistic Jewish parties-- and this against their own nation.”–Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

   "…the fall of man in paradise has always been followed by his expulsion."  -Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf (See Genesis Chapter 3 where humankind is cast from Eden for their sins.  Hitler compares this to the need to exterminate the Jews for their sin against Christ.)

   “Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.”  –Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

   “The anti-Semitism of the new movement [Christian Social movement] was based on religious ideas instead of racial knowledge.”  –Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (This quote is very interesting for it disperses the idea that Hitler raged war due to being an Aryan supremacist. He states quite clearly that he has a problem with Jews for their belief not race.  That is why many German Jews died in WW2 regardless of their Aryan nationality.)

“Only in the steady and constant application of force lies the very first prerequisite for success.  This persistence, however, can always and only arise from a definite spiritual conviction. Any violence which does not spring from a firm, spiritual base, will be wavering and uncertain.”  –Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (Here Hitler is admitting that his war against the Jews were so successful because of his strong Christian Spirituality.)

korban dallas wrote:Quotes from Hitler:

   Hitler’s speeches and proclamations, even more clearly, reveal his faith and feelings toward a Christianized Germany.  Nazism presents an embarrassment to Christianity and demonstrates the danger of their faith So they try to pin him on other theistic views.  The following words from Hitler show his disdain for atheism, and pagan cults, and reveal the strength of his Christian feelings:

   “National Socialism is not a cult-movement-- a movement for worship; it is exclusively a ‘volkic’ political doctrine based upon racial principles.  In its purpose there is no mystic cult, only the care and leadership of a people defined by a common blood-relationship... We will not allow mystically- minded occult folk with a passion for exploring the secrets of the world beyond to steal into our Movement.  Such folk are not National Socialists, but something else-- in any case something which has nothing to do with us.  At the head of our programme there stand no secret surmisings but clear-cut perception and straightforward profession of belief.  But since we set as the central point of this perception and of this profession of belief the maintenance and hence the security for the future of a being formed by God, we thus serve the maintenance of a divine work and fulfill a divine will-- not in the secret twilight of a new house of worship, but openly before the face of the Lord…  Our worship is exclusively the cultivation of the natural, and for that reason, because natural, therefore God-willed.  Our humility is the unconditional submission before the divine laws of existence so far as they are known to us men.”  -Adolf Hitler, in Nuremberg on 6 Sept.1938.  [Christians have always accused Hitler of believing in pagan cult mythology. What is written here clearly expresses his stand against cults.]

   “We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith.  We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out.” -Adolf Hitler, in a speech in Berlin on 24 Oct. 1933 [This statement clearly refutes modern Christians who claim Hitler as favoring atheism.  Hitler wanted to form a society in which ALL people worshipped Jesus and considered any questioning of such to be heresy.  The Holocaust was like a modern inquisition, killing all who did not accept Jesus. Though more Jews were killed then any other it should be noted that MANY ARYAN pagans and atheists were murdered for their non-belief in Christ.]

   Here Hitler uses the Bible and his Christianity in order to attack the Jews and uphold his anti-Semitism:

   "My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter.  It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth!  was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter.  In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders.  How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison.  To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross.  As a Christian I have no duty to allow my self to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice…  And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows . For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people."  –Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed.  The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

   "Christianity could not content itself with building up its own altar; it was absolutely forced to undertake the destruction of the heathen altars.  Only from this fanatical intolerance could its apodictic faith take form; this intolerance is, in fact, its absolute presupposition." -Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (It is quite obvious here that Hitler is referring to destructing the Judaism alters on which Christianity was founded.)

   "The personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil assumes the living shape of the Jew."  -Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (The idea of the devil and the Jew came out of medieval anti-Jewish beliefs based on interpretations from the Bible. Martin Luther, and teachers after him, continued this “tradition” up until the 20th century.)

   "With satanic joy in his face, the black-haired Jewish youth lurks in wait for the unsuspecting girl whom he defiles with his blood, thus stealing her from her people." -Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (It is common in war for one race to rape another so that they can “defile” the race and assimilate their own.  Hitler speaks about this very tactic here.)    

   “The best characterization is provided by the product of this religious education, the Jew himself.  His life is only of this world, and his spirit is inwardly as alien to true Christianity as his nature two thousand years previous was to the great founder of the new doctrine.  Of course, the latter made no secret of his attitude toward the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took the whip to drive from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all humanity, who then as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument for his business existence.  In return, Christ was nailed to the cross, while our present- day party Christians debase themselves to begging for Jewish votes at elections and later try to arrange political swindles with atheistic Jewish parties-- and this against their own nation.”–Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

   "…the fall of man in paradise has always been followed by his expulsion."  -Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf (See Genesis Chapter 3 where humankind is cast from Eden for their sins.  Hitler compares this to the need to exterminate the Jews for their sin against Christ.)

   “Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.”  –Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

   “The anti-Semitism of the new movement [Christian Social movement] was based on religious ideas instead of racial knowledge.”  –Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (This quote is very interesting for it disperses the idea that Hitler raged war due to being an Aryan supremacist. He states quite clearly that he has a problem with Jews for their belief not race.  That is why many German Jews died in WW2 regardless of their Aryan nationality.)

“Only in the steady and constant application of force lies the very first prerequisite for success.  This persistence, however, can always and only arise from a definite spiritual conviction. Any violence which does not spring from a firm, spiritual base, will be wavering and uncertain.”  –Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (Here Hitler is admitting that his war against the Jews were so successful because of his strong Christian Spirituality.)

lol.. now you are confused, is hitler a christian or not you seem to be all over on this one.....

Vicar of Dibley wrote:

korban dallas wrote:
so hitlers in heaven ....holy fuck

according to you he will be , you're the one who insists he was a Christian . So was he or wasn't he , make your mind up lol

Hitler never repented for his crimes and would thus not get into the Catholic and many Christian belief's of heaven.
In the Christian belief system of Catholicism, he would be though in purgatory.
Hence why Christianity evangelical style is bonkers, it would allow Jesus automatically into heaven. Over a billion Christians disagree with that stance and believe you have to repent your sins. So by your belief system, he would go to heaven. So it does not matter what the pair of you believe in regards to your variant of Christianity. As its your variant that would allow Hitler in.



"Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near" (Matthew 3:2). The first recorded words of the public ministry of Jesus are also "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near" (Matthew 4:17). Jesus declared that the purpose of his coming and ministry was to call "sinners to repentance" (Luke 5:32). When Jesus sent out his disciples to preach, we read that "they went out and preached that people should repent" (Mark 6:12). After his resurrection from the dead, he declared that "repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations" (Luke 24:47). He declared that unless people repented they would perish, and in order to enforce the message, he repeated it (Luke 13:3,5). In each of Peter's two recorded sermons after the day of Pentecost, when the Holy Spirit was given, he told people to repent (Acts 2:38; 3:19). In Paul's recorded sermon to the Athenians he said that God "commands all people everywhere to repent" (Acts 17:30). He said that the message he declared to both Jews and Greeks was that "they must turn to God in repentance and have faith in our Lord Jesus" (Acts 20:21). Peter declares that God is "not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance" (2 Peter 3:9).


As to Hitler he was a Catholic and remained a Catholic until he died. You do not have to be a practicing Christian to still be a Christian. In many of Hitlers speeches and Mein Kamp he refers to God often.
The evidence is staggering to Hitler still believing in a God and remaining Catholic


See you all later

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

korban dallas wrote:
yes he was that`s a fact you deny in any rational way
and its you claiming he has gone to heaven after murdering millions of people  
fuck what the hell did lucifer do to be cast out of heaven

well there's a turn around, a very bad one, one minute you was proving hitler was a Christian , very badly by the way, now you claim we insist he was a Christian...

I think you lost the plot bud....    

the only one loosing the polt is you time and time again you ignore it facts presented
Hitler was a Christian you can deflect and squirm as much as you like but that simple fact remains
your wife then claims he would have gone to heaven if so

now given Hitler faith is a fact and a matter of historical record its something you can`t deny try as you might

Except a believer who is unrepentant may repent in their last breath and that is enough for God to forgive them .

korban dallas wrote:

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

well there's a turn around, a very bad one, one minute you was proving hitler was a Christian , very badly by the way, now you claim we insist he was a Christian...

I think you lost the plot bud....    

the only one loosing the polt is you time and time again you ignore it facts presented
Hitler was a Christian you can deflect and squirm as much as you like but that simple fact remains
your wife then claims he would have gone to heaven if so

now given Hitler faith is a fact and a matter of historical record its  something you can`t deny try as you might  

ah so you have decided, hitler in your mind was a christian, what examples are there of him keeping the scriptures because you have said several times to be a Christian you must keep all the scriptures..??? that's how you have judged dibs and myself to not be Christians you said we do not keep all the sciptures, so show me how hitler through his life kept all the scriptures.....??