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Post by Guest Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:27 pm

RAMALLAH, West Bank (AP) — Palestinian protesters whitewashed a rainbow flag of gay rights that was painted by a Palestinian artist on six slabs of the West Bank separation barrier. The artist, Khaled Jarrar, said Tuesday his art was meant as a reminder that Palestinians live under Israeli occupation, at a time when gay rights are in the news after the U.S. allowed same-sex weddings. But protesters perceived the painting as support for homosexuality, a taboo subject in Palestinian society, where gays are not tolerated.
The artwork ignited angry responses among Palestinians, and activists whitewashed the flag on Monday night, just a few hours after it was painted on the best known section of Israel's graffiti-covered barrier, next to a portrait of Yasser Arafat and other Palestinian leaders.

Jarrar, 39, who has exhibited in Europe and the United States, told The Associated Press that the destruction "reflects the absence of tolerance, and freedoms in the Palestinian society." "People don't accept different thinking in our society," he said, adding he drew the rainbow flag on the barrier to put a spotlight on Palestinian issues. Mohammed, who only gave his first name for fear of repercussions, said he helped whitewash the flag because "we cannot promote gay rights." Mohammed al-Amleh, a 46-year-old lawyer, also approved of the action, saying that "it would be shameful to have the flag of gays in our refugee camp." Gay Palestinians tend to be secretive about their social lives and some have crossed into Israel to live safely. A 1951 Jordanian law banning homosexual acts remains in effect in the West Bank, as does a ban in Gaza passed by British authorities in 1936.

Israel, meanwhile, has emerged as one of the world's most gay-friendly travel destinations recently, in sharp contrast to most of the rest of the Middle East, where gay culture is not tolerated and gays are persecuted and even killed. Earlier this month, over 100,000 people attended a gay pride parade in Tel Aviv.
In Israel, gays serve openly in Israel's military and parliament, and many popular artists and entertainers are gay. Gays cannot marry in Israel, primarily because there is no civil marriage of any kind — all Jewish weddings must be conducted through the Jewish rabbinate, which considers homosexuality a sin and a violation of Jewish law. But the state recognizes same-sex couples who marry abroad. Across most of the rest of the Middle East, however, gay and lesbian relationships are taboo. The pervasiveness of religion in everyday life, along with strict cultural norms, plays a major factor in that.

Same-sex relations are punishable by death in Iran, Mauritania, Saudi Arabia, Sudan and Yemen.


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Post by Raggamuffin Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:04 pm

The whole thing could do with a lick of paint.
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Post by Eilzel Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:07 am

Raggamuffin wrote:The whole thing could do with a lick of paint.

Of a bulldozer... (in the event of a peaceful partition I mean, not more Israel gradually taking over lands not theirs).

Shit like this doesn't help the Palestinian cause, they want the world to support them but show a major disregard for equality and human rights. I still believe in their right to statehood of course, and this is the tip of the iceberg and nothing compared to the savagery of Hamas, but these things pile up and give their opponents in the US plenty of reason to maintain their current position.
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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:12 am

well good for Israel at least they don't kill gays like Palestine .

The rainbow thing is just boring now .

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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:15 am

Eilzel wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:The whole thing could do with a lick of paint.

Of a bulldozer... (in the event of a peaceful partition I mean, not more Israel gradually taking over lands not theirs).

Shit like this doesn't help the Palestinian cause, they want the world to support them but show a major disregard for equality and human rights. I still believe in their right to statehood of course, and this is the tip of the iceberg and nothing compared to the savagery of Hamas, but these things pile up and give their opponents in the US plenty of reason to maintain their current position.

Maybe they're just bored with rainbows appearing everywhere too. I know I am ...
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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:36 am

The facebook trend of rainbow profile pictures is boring

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Post by Eilzel Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:51 am

VoD you should learn to read in order to stop looking so damn thick all the time.

The flag painting was in Palestine and removed by Palestinian protestors, NOT Israelis. So not 'good for Israel'...

Israel 'meanwhile has emerged as one of the world's most gay friendly travel destinations'.

Read woman it isn't fucking difficult.
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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:58 am

Eilzel wrote:VoD you should learn to read in order to stop looking so damn thick all the time.

The flag painting was in Palestine and removed by Palestinian protestors, NOT Israelis. So not 'good for Israel'...

Israel 'meanwhile has emerged as one of the world's most gay friendly travel destinations'.

Read woman it isn't fucking difficult.

and you should stop being a ---- all the time and insulting me , i'm just about sick to the high teeth of you're fucking insults now fuck off and try to be a decent gay for a change , because the gays i know are nothing like you .

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Post by Eilzel Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:01 am

Oops, just realised your error didn't you, I understand you'd react badly if you are embarrassed. Read next time before rushing to spout something that is the total opposite of what happened.
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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:03 am

Eilzel wrote:Oops, just realised your error didn't you, I understand you'd react badly if you are embarrassed. Read next time before rushing to spout something that is the total opposite of what happened.

no i was saying about the rainbow you dick head i don't give a toss about Palestine or Israel'i writings on there , its you that read it wrong again Razz

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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:05 am

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Eilzel wrote:VoD you should learn to read in order to stop looking so damn thick all the time.

The flag painting was in Palestine and removed by Palestinian protestors, NOT Israelis. So not 'good for Israel'...

Israel 'meanwhile has emerged as one of the world's most gay friendly travel destinations'.

Read woman it isn't fucking difficult.

and you should stop being a ---- all the time and insulting me , i'm just about sick to the high teeth of you're fucking insults now fuck off and try to be a decent gay for a change , because the gays i know are nothing like you .

well said babe but let the children play love, it's the only way they can feel normal when they know they are not...xx

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Post by Eilzel Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:05 am

"well good for Israel at least they don't kill gays like Palestine ."

You were clearly championing them taking down the flag painting. It's ok, everyone makes mistakes, especially when reading isn't 'their thing' ;-)
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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:07 am

I think VOD was making a separate point.
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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:10 am

Raggamuffin wrote:I think VOD was making a separate point.

yep

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Post by Eilzel Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:14 am

What was the separate point? And why did you say 'at least'?
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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:20 am

Eilzel wrote:What was the separate point? And why did you say 'at least'?

I was making a point that it is good that some Palestinian gays have moved to Israel to live in a safe place .

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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:21 am

anyway les if you can't understand it or don't want to then that's your problem .

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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:22 am

Eilzel wrote:What was the separate point? And why did you say 'at least'?

are you going to confirm dibs and myself are Christians are are you going to continue to hide in the cowards hole you normally live in... ????

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Post by Eilzel Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:38 am

BS VoD
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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:45 am

Eilzel wrote:BS VoD

are you going to confirm dibs and I are Christians???

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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:19 am

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
Eilzel wrote:BS VoD

are you going to confirm dibs and I are Christians???

Seems he can't because he is a liar and hides behind others and that makes him a coward too Laughing

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Post by Eilzel Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:22 am

I don't see your husband's posts anymore as been on ignore since last week (a delightful experience). Why would I need to confirm such a thing?
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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:29 am

Eilzel wrote:I don't see your husband's posts anymore as been on ignore since last week (a delightful experience). Why would I need to confirm such a thing?

this is what my husband is asking you .

are you going to confirm dibs and I are Christians???

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Post by Eilzel Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:35 am

Why do you ask?
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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:39 am

Eilzel wrote:Why do you ask?

coward...

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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:41 am

Vicar of Dibley wrote:The facebook trend of rainbow profile pictures is boring

Boring or growing daily in support for an oppressed group?
Would you say its boring if the symbol was for oppressed Christians in the Middle East.
Stop using the conflict for your own playground to belittle homosexuals.
I may stand against Sassy and Irn on their poor views where they ignore and are apologists for Hamas, but I still back the view of a progressive independent state of Palestine.

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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:46 am

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Eilzel wrote:VoD you should learn to read in order to stop looking so damn thick all the time.

The flag painting was in Palestine and removed by Palestinian protestors, NOT Israelis. So not 'good for Israel'...

Israel 'meanwhile has emerged as one of the world's most gay friendly travel destinations'.

Read woman it isn't fucking difficult.

and you should stop being a ---- all the time and insulting me , i'm just about sick to the high teeth of you're fucking insults now fuck off and try to be a decent gay for a change , because the gays i know are nothing like you .


But you insult the fact he is gay.
Being gay is not a choice.
Being Christian is a choice and an ideology. He insults you because you do not except the fact he is homosexual through your beliefs and in fact insult him when you do. He has every right to be at odds with the Christians who are hypocritical that back one verse from Leviticus and ignore others. I mean do you back the view to execute your own children for insulting you?
No, so why do you back from the same chapter the verse on homosexuals?
Because you show the worst hypocrisy.
Eilzel , Ben, Victor, Veya, etc and myself do not have problems with the vast majority of Christians because they are progressive and they know many of these verses were called for in a backward time.
The question you need to ask yourself, if you view other verses for the time, which you clearly do like with the execute children verse for being disobedient, then clearly your aversion to homosexuality has nothing to do with the bible but a pure hatred of homosexuals

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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:33 pm

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and you should stop being a ---- all the time and insulting me , i'm just about sick to the high teeth of you're fucking insults now fuck off and try to be a decent gay for a change , because the gays i know are nothing like you .


But you insult the fact he is gay.
Being gay is not a choice.
Being Christian is a choice and an ideology. He insults you because you do not except the fact he is homosexual through your beliefs and in fact insult him when you do. He has every right to be at odds with the Christians who are hypocritical that back one verse from Leviticus and ignore others. I mean do you back the view to execute your own children for insulting you?
No, so why do you back from the same chapter the verse on homosexuals?
Because you show the worst hypocrisy.
Eilzel , Ben, Victor, Veya, etc and myself do not have problems with the vast majority of Christians because they are progressive and they know many of these verses were called for in a backward time.
The question you need to ask yourself, if you view other verses for the time, which you clearly do like with the execute children verse for being disobedient, then clearly your aversion to homosexuality has nothing to do with the bible but a pure hatred of homosexuals

So because I don't accept his homosexuality according you to that is a reason and right to insult me ?

You know all too well didge that Jesus came to fulfil the law and that at the time you speak about in the OT was when there was a lot of sin and you need to read into it instead of trying to make out that Christians execute their children for being naughty . Get real come on even i know you're clutching at straws here .

How about your pure hatred of Christians and how about your nazi behaviour towards forcing people to take chemo just because you believe it is good .

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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:39 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:The facebook trend of rainbow profile pictures is boring

Boring or growing daily in support for an oppressed group?
Would you say its boring if the symbol was for oppressed Christians in the Middle East.
Stop using the conflict for your own playground to belittle homosexuals.
I may stand against Sassy and Irn on their poor views where they ignore and are apologists for Hamas, but I still back the view of a progressive independent state of Palestine.

No just boring and again the gay agenda forcing itself on people who choose not accept it .
I don't hate homosexuals that's the difference here also , I stand up for homosexuals and say it is barbaric they are being thrown off buildings and punished , you and the haters on here just hate Christians because you don't believe the bible , what hypocrites .

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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:48 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:


But you insult the fact he is gay.
Being gay is not a choice.
Being Christian is a choice and an ideology. He insults you because you do not except the fact he is homosexual through your beliefs and in fact insult him when you do. He has every right to be at odds with the Christians who are hypocritical that back one verse from Leviticus and ignore others. I mean do you back the view to execute your own children for insulting you?
No, so why do you back from the same chapter the verse on homosexuals?
Because you show the worst hypocrisy.
Eilzel , Ben, Victor, Veya, etc and myself do not have problems with the vast majority of Christians because they are progressive and they know many of these verses were called for in a backward time.
The question you need to ask yourself, if you view other verses for the time, which you clearly do like with the execute children verse for being disobedient, then clearly your aversion to homosexuality has nothing to do with the bible but a pure hatred of homosexuals

So because I don't accept his homosexuality according you to that is a reason and right to insult me ?

You know all too well didge that Jesus came to fulfil the law and that at the time you speak about in the OT was when there was a lot of sin and you need to read into it instead of trying to make out that Christians execute their children for being naughty . Get real come on even i know you're clutching at straws here .

How about your pure hatred of Christians and how about your nazi behaviour towards forcing people to take chemo just because you believe it is good .


The reason you should ask is why do you not accept homosexuality?
There is no reason not to other than an unnatural hate.
Stop coming out with religious scripture, you fail to recognize the fundamental fact Jesus taught love and you lack it in every department, as if he was alive today I have no doubt he would shun you both.
So I have no need to read anything, you come out with the most pathetic excuses to show why you are both hypocritical Christians.

Then you play the victim card. Sorry but my family are Christians who I love, they are real Christians of course the ones that understand love not hate. What you follow would be on a par with what the Christian bible states as evil. Jesus taught love, not hate, and its about time you woke the fuck up to that.
Again you ignore plenty of passages that you do not follow so your reasoning to hate homosexuality is nothing short of unfounded hate

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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:52 pm

Same old shit - over and over again.
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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:52 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Cuchulain wrote:

Boring or growing daily in support for an oppressed group?
Would you say its boring if the symbol was for oppressed Christians in the Middle East.
Stop using the conflict for your own playground to belittle homosexuals.
I may stand against Sassy and Irn on their poor views where they ignore and are apologists for Hamas, but I still back the view of a progressive independent state of Palestine.

No just boring and again the gay agenda forcing itself on people who choose not accept it .
I don't hate homosexuals that's the  difference here also , I stand up for homosexuals and say it is barbaric they are  being thrown off buildings and punished , you  and the haters on here just hate Christians because you don't believe the bible , what hypocrites .


Yeah we hear the so called Christian agenda daily off you, one that lacks any Christian values mind, that speaks the worst form of bigotry, where something that does not involve you or even effect you, creates you to be as nasty as possible to people who are born gay. The fact is if Christians are persecuted, Eilzel would stand up and say it is wrong. If they were discriminated against, Eilzel would say its wrong. He may not agree with Christian beliefs, but he does not try to stop Christians being Christians and having equal rights. You though want to deny him the same rights that you have.
That is hateful and the worst form of bigotry and spare the crap on what you know about Christianity, because the pair of you are clueless on the faith.

Again Jesus taught love, not hate.
When you understand that, then maybe the pair of you will stop being ignorant to your own faith.

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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:53 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:Same old shit - over and over again.


Yeah some of us tired of the same old shit from so called Christians, who have about as much Christian values and morality as Genghis Khan

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Post by Eilzel Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:55 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:

No just boring and again the gay agenda forcing itself on people who choose not accept it .
I don't hate homosexuals that's the  difference here also , I stand up for homosexuals and say it is barbaric they are  being thrown off buildings and punished , you  and the haters on here just hate Christians because you don't believe the bible , what hypocrites .


Yeah we hear the so called Christian agenda daily off you, one that lacks any Christian values mind, that speaks the worst form of bigotry, where something that does not involve you or even effect you, creates you to be as nasty as possible to people who are born gay. The fact is if Christians are persecuted, Eilzel would stand up and say it is wrong. If they were discriminated against, Eilzel would say its wrong. He may not agree with Christian beliefs, but he does not try to stop Christians being Christians and having equal rights. You though want to deny him the same rights that you have.
That is hateful and the worst form of bigotry and spare the crap on what you know about Christianity, because the pair of you are clueless on the faith.

Again Jesus taught love, not hate.
When you understand that, then maybe the pair of you will stop being ignorant to your own faith.

Exactly right. I am 100% for freedom of belief. I think it is disgusting the way Christians are treated in parts of the Middle East for instance. The REAL persecuted Christians that is.
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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:55 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:Same old shit - over and over again.

yep i agree , is there anything we can debate other than gays and religion ?

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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:56 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:Same old shit - over and over again.

yep i agree , is there anything we can debate other than gays and religion ?

Apparently not.
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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:58 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:The facebook trend of rainbow profile pictures is boring

Boring or growing daily in support for an oppressed group?
Would you say its boring if the symbol was for oppressed Christians in the Middle East.
Stop using the conflict for your own playground to belittle homosexuals.
I may stand against Sassy and Irn on their poor views where they ignore and are apologists for Hamas, but I still back the view of a progressive independent state of Palestine.

boring is the right word there are youtube videos claiming it is actually a test on people..

I assume they must mean the iq is low enough to use the colour flag on your photo...





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Post by Eilzel Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:58 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:Same old shit - over and over again.

yep i agree , is there anything we can debate other than gays and religion ?

How many threads related to sexuality has HF made in the last week alone?
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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:59 pm

Eilzel wrote:
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Yeah we hear the so called Christian agenda daily off you, one that lacks any Christian values mind, that speaks the worst form of bigotry, where something that does not involve you or even effect you, creates you to be as nasty as possible to people who are born gay. The fact is if Christians are persecuted, Eilzel would stand up and say it is wrong. If they were discriminated against, Eilzel would say its wrong. He may not agree with Christian beliefs, but he does not try to stop Christians being Christians and having equal rights. You though want to deny him the same rights that you have.
That is hateful and the worst form of bigotry and spare the crap on what you know about Christianity, because the pair of you are clueless on the faith.

Again Jesus taught love, not hate.
When you understand that, then maybe the pair of you will stop being ignorant to your own faith.

Exactly right. I am 100% for freedom of belief. I think it is disgusting the way Christians are treated in parts of the Middle East for instance. The REAL persecuted Christians that is.


Exactly, but they use this place as a platform of hate against homosexuals and the shit they come out with claiming to be victims is taking the piss.
They are utterly pathetic and insult the very teachings of Jesus.

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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:01 pm

Eilzel wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:

yep i agree , is there anything we can debate other than gays and religion ?

How many threads related to sexuality has HF made in the last week alone?

Find something we can all talk about that doesn't include homosexuals and religion , lets forget last week how about this week Razz

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Post by Eilzel Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:02 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Eilzel wrote:

How many threads related to sexuality has HF made in the last week alone?

Find something we can all talk about that doesn't include homosexuals and religion , lets forget last week how about this week Razz

I hardly post threads to be fair, your husband posts a tonne, why not ask him about it, since 90% of the threads on sexuality are by him Smile
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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:12 pm

has les the coward answered my question yet???????????????? maybe he is outside having a fag!!!




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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:14 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:has les the coward answered my question yet???????????????? maybe he is outside having a fag!!!




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He said you're on ignore, it doesn't matter what he believes i don't care just let them all get on with it x

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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:16 pm

heavenlyfatheragain wrote:
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Boring or growing daily in support for an oppressed group?
Would you say its boring if the symbol was for oppressed Christians in the Middle East.
Stop using the conflict for your own playground to belittle homosexuals.
I may stand against Sassy and Irn on their poor views where they ignore and are apologists for Hamas, but I still back the view of a progressive independent state of Palestine.

boring is the right word there are youtube videos claiming it is actually a test on people..

I assume they must mean the iq is low enough to use the colour flag on your photo...




Well they maybe boring but its going to be funny when you are banned for ignoring Ben.

Ha Ha Ha ha Ha

Then we will have peace again


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IQ is not even a good measure of intelligence, but someone as thick as shit as you would not even know that.

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Post by Eilzel Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:16 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:has les the coward answered my question yet???????????????? maybe he is outside having a fag!!!




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He said you're on ignore, it doesn't matter what he believes i don't care just let them all get on with it x

What question is that?
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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:17 pm

Cuchulain wrote:
heavenlyfatheragain wrote:

boring is the right word there are youtube videos claiming it is actually a test on people..

I assume they must mean the iq is low enough to use the colour flag on your photo...




Well they maybe boring but its going to be funny when you are banned for ignoring Ben.

Ha Ha Ha ha Ha

Then we will have peace again


happy days


IQ is not even a good measure of intelligence, but someone as thick as shit as you would not even know that.





he keeps seeing my posts..lol





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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:18 pm

Lez he said do you think we are Christian ?

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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:19 pm

Yes I do see your posts HF, because I choose to ignore you when you are a complete ignorant idiot





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Post by Eilzel Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:20 pm

Vicar of Dibley wrote:Lez he said do you think we are Christian ?

Why wouldn't I think that?
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Post by Guest Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:21 pm

Cuchulain wrote:Yes I do see your posts HF, because I choose to ignore you when you are a complete ignorant idiot





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just a huge liar as usual then didge...lol




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