Israel and its defenders should be publicly calling out those Western governments which fund these NGOs.

The UN Human Rights Council inquiry into last year’s Gaza war followed an all-too predictable course. The report of the two-member probe, headed by former New York Supreme Court judge Mary McGowan Davis, said “substantial information” pointed to “serious violations of international humanitarian law and international human rights law by Israel and by Palestinian armed groups which may amount to war crimes.” Hamas greeted this conclusion with delight. As a lawless terrorist group, it doubtless laughed at a report merely pointing to possible war crimes it just might have committed, having fired hundreds of rockets and tunneled into Israel with the express purpose of killing civilians. The prize, which Davis duly delivered as expected, was falsely to smear Hamas’s victim Israel for possible war crimes.

The report was, of course, a travesty.

With the original inquiry head William Schabas forced to stand down after it was revealed he had previously worked for the terrorist PLO, Davis merely plowed on with the same kangaroo court: verdict first, evidence to follow. That evidence was partial and skewed: at best, inconclusive and at worst, willfully, venomously wrong. For statistics of fatalities during the war, Davis used the “UN protection cluster” numbers drawn from Israeli and Palestinian organizations, including Palestinian armed groups. But drawing on this range of sources, including terrorists and their sympathizers, meant she had no reliable basis on which to draw any conclusions. The only trustworthy figures have come from Israel’s Foreign Ministry. After exhaustively tracking and identifying the dead Palestinians, this confirmed that almost half were armed militants belonging to Hamas or other terrorist groups.

This ratio of combatant to civilian casualties was far lower than any other army has ever achieved in the history of modern warfare. In most other wars, three times as many civilians have been killed. Yet Davis says the IDF should have changed the way it conducted the war after understanding the level of civilian casualties that were occurring. Whatever can she mean? The lengths to which the IDF went to avoid such casualties – through leaflets, phone calls, texts and the harmless explosive warning “knock on the roof” – are unprecedented, and even cost Israeli lives. This has been attested by numerous experts. The High Level International Military Group, whose 11 members included the former NATO Military Committee chairman Gen.
(ret.) Klaus Naumann of Germany, the former US State Department ambassador at large for war crimes issues Pierre-Richard Prosper and the former commander of British Forces in Afghanistan, Col. (ret.) Richard Kemp, observed: “Israel not only met a reasonable international standard of observance of the laws of armed conflict, but in many cases significantly exceeded that standard. A measure of the seriousness with which Israel took its moral duties and its responsibilities under the laws of armed conflict is that, in some cases, Israel’s scrupulous adherence to the laws of war cost Israeli soldiers’ and civilians’ lives.”

Indeed, Israel has set this moral bar so high that other countries are unlikely to reach it. Willy Stern, an American law professor, has quoted Wolff Heintschel von Heinegg, a German expert on military law, who said the IDF takes “many more precautions than are required... [it] is setting an unreasonable precedent for other democratic countries of the world who may also be fighting in asymmetric wars against brutal non-state actors who abuse these laws.” Davis simply brushed all this aside to arrive at an immoral equivalence between Hamas terrorists and those defending innocent victims against such attacks. Her report is riddled with breathtaking distortions and omissions. For example, she confuses terrorism with humanitarianism by pretending that threats by Hamas to target Israeli targets such as Ben-Gurion Airport were in fact warnings to evacuate, similar to those delivered by Israel to Gazan civilians. Or she scolds Israel for the blockade of Gaza even though Egypt had imposed a more draconian blockade on its own border.

Davis relied in the main on accounts provided by NGOs such as Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, B’Tselem or Breaking the Silence which have no objective fact-finding apparatus and whose purpose is merely to attack, demonize and delegitimize Israel. Davis even admits that she can’t establish with certainty what happened in specific incidents, and that because Israel had not released sufficient information about its decision- making process no independent body could properly assess whether the IDF had met the standards set by international law. None of that, though, prevented her and her colleague from producing these ludicrous conclusions. They are not just morally and intellectually bankrupt. If taken seriously, they would prevent Israel from defending itself by any military means at all. Such a report brings the UNHRC, and the UN itself, further into disrepute. But that’s surely the real point here. For we know all this by now, don’t we. We know the UNHRC is a sick joke, with its membership including murderous regimes which deny human rights to their own people. We know that the UN, with its great bloc of despotisms and terrorist states, is institutionally programmed to attack Israel – the sole country in the Middle East which safeguards human rights and where Muslims are safe, and the one country in the world which Islamic tyrannies and their global supporters are sworn to isolate and destroy. We know that the NGOs are the instruments of the Soviet-inspired psychological warfare campaign to bend the collective Western mind with systematic falsehoods and blood libels about Israel. What we haven’t done is hold to account those who have enabled these institutions and groups to do these wicked things, and who have given them traction. Israel and its defenders should be publicly calling out those Western governments which fund these NGOs, and demanding that they stop funding such demonization and incitement to Israel’s destruction. Most of these Israeli NGOs are part of the New Israel Fund’s network. The NIF should be ostracized. If an organism has ingested poison it must expel it or else it may die.

UN Watch points out that since its establishment the UNHRC has condemned Israel more than the rest of the world combined. Why are the UK and US still members of this travesty of a human rights arbiter? As long as they participate in it, they validate and legitimize it. As long as Israel’s allies keep silent in the face of the libels against Israel pouring out of the NGOs, UN and other international bodies and their own media and universities, those governmental allies are themselves implicitly conniving at this delegitimization campaign. As long as they continue to fund these NGOs, they too have blood on their hands. The Davis report is just the latest manifestation of the surreal nightmare through which we are living, in which much of the world has been turned into one giant pogrom, both physical and intellectual, against the Jewish state. To fight it, we must not only delegitimize the delegitimizers but hold their enablers’ feet to the fire, too.


http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/As-I-see-it-Time-to-call-out-those-aiding-the-Israel-pogrom-407194

Thank you for taking the time to find this information didge .

It's a good job the number of Israeli propaganda sites doesn't run to the thousands (although they are doing their best), because Didge just adores the crap and lies they write and is stupid enough to believe them.   Poor soul.

Thanks for your views on me and no points on the article Sassy
By the way the writer is English, but then anything is Israel biased that does not agree with your warped world view sassy. Even the truth is Israeli biased to you Sassy.


Sigh


Goodnight Sassy

There are no points in the article, and anyone who knows about what actually happens just falls about laughing reading crap like that. Well they would laugh if it wasn't so sick and twisted.



Israeli soldiers ashamed of what they have done, one saying the Gaza Strip is exactly like what the Nazis did to the Jews in the Ghettos of Poland and how the few that fought back were called terrorists. But you won't listen to it, you will just continue to lick the boots of the real terrorist, child abusers and murderers.

sassy wrote:There are no points in the article, and anyone who knows about what actually happens just falls about laughing reading crap like that.  Well they would laugh if it wasn't so sick and twisted.  



Israeli soldiers ashamed of what they have done, one saying the Gaza Strip is exactly like what the Nazis did to the Jews in the Ghettos of Poland and how the few that fought back were called terrorists.   But you won't listen to it, you will just continue to lick the boots of the real terrorist, child abusers and murderers.

So now Sassy does the worst thing conceivable and compares real war crimes to claims to suspected war crimes.
This is why I have no respect for you.
You do as extremists do, make irrational claims that have no comparison whilst ignoring the crimes committed both by Hamas and Fatah. If Israel is on a par to Nazism to you, then we will have to reinvent what is evil as something worse, so as to place both Hamas and Fatah in that category. The Nazis killed hundreds of thousands in the Ghettos of Warsaw, there has been no similarity here and yet people who have never studied history like Sassy make such poor irrational claims. I recognise wrongs done by Israel, sassy instead invents and lies and makes comparisons to the holocaust, an event in history which took the lives of 6 million Jews by people who thought just as she does. Those that stigmatized and deligitimize Jews, now Israeli Jews as people. The Nazi's tried to deligitimize Jews as human beings. You are attempting to do the same with Israeli Jews.
If there was ever a comparison to Nazism propaganda methodology Sassy, you are the embodiment of that.

I didn't claim it, the soldier did and he gave his reasons, but you daren't listen.

sassy wrote:I didn't claim it, the soldier did and he gave his reasons, but you daren't listen.

Copout.
I just proved you use the same tactics as Nazis
You posted the video so you must back the views in that video.
You really are low, that you would use far right tactics of attempting to deligitimize Jews, Israeli Jews

This is what really gets my goat.
The claim in the video will always be questionable without corroborating evidence. Not only that we have no idea if the individual has been paid to make such a view. Going off hearsay is just that, being convinced by someone saying something. It needs evidence.
As I say the nazi's would play off the exact same claims with forced testimonies of Jews.

It turns my stomach that some would use such comparative Nazi methodology in their arguments.

didge , sassy is just set on seeing Israel wiped off the map she is bitter and twisted and this is why she keep posting shit up all the time , she must spend all her life searching for news about it .

Cuchulain wrote:This is what really gets my goat.
The claim in the video will always be questionable without corroborating evidence. Not only that we have no idea if the individual has been paid to make such a view. Going off hearsay is just that, being convinced by someone saying something. It needs evidence.
As I say the nazi's would play off the exact same claims with forced testimonies of Jews.

It turns my stomach that some would use such comparative Nazi methodology in their arguments.

agree with you , lets face it that could be anyone . Anyone can make a youtube video and there are some good actors out there lol

Vicar of Dibley wrote:didge , sassy is just set on seeing Israel wiped off the map she is bitter and twisted and this is why she keep posting shit up all the time , she must spend all her life searching for news about it .

I know she does Dibs, she will not admit it, but the BDS promote Israel belonging to the Palestinians. They do not believe in self determination. Sassy argues off history to where people are from. That is an argument based on rights to land on ethnicity. It cares not if generations have lived there for 200 years and in some cases 4000 years. Such an argument is born to deny a legitimate claim to a land, it tries to deligitimize a right to live there, This is what the far left and BDS do, they try to dehumanize the Israeli Jews. To the point they are left with no friend in the world and invaded and destroyed. They will not be happy until they witness a holocaust for themselves, a second holocaust of the Jews.

Have to go Dibs am late now lol

Cuchulain wrote:

Vicar of Dibley wrote:didge , sassy is just set on seeing Israel wiped off the map she is bitter and twisted and this is why she keep posting shit up all the time , she must spend all her life searching for news about it .

I know she does Dibs, she will not admit it, but the BDS promote Israel belonging to the Palestinians. They do not believe in self determination. Sassy argues off history to where people are from. That is an argument based on rights to land on ethnicity. It cares not if generations have lived there for 200 years and in some cases 4000 years. Such an argument is born to deny a legitimate claim to a land, it tries to deligitimize a right to live there, This is what the far left and BDS do, they try to dehumanize the Israeli Jews. To the point they are left with no friend in the world and invaded and destroyed. They will not be happy until they witness a holocaust for themselves, a second holocaust of the Jews.

Have to go Dibs am late now lol

i agree with you , get off now and enjoy your evening and supper

Setting aside the tag-teaming that is going on here given Melanie Phillips views on Israel she can hardly be expected to give an objective view on anyone who critises Israel. Even oneof her colleagues at Jewish Chronicle spoke out abiut how far she was going and how wrong she was in what she was saying. Read it here...

http://website.thejc.com/home.aspx?AId=51460&ATypeId=1&search=true2&srchstr=eager%20to%20see%20the%20murder%20and%20eradication%20of%20the%20Jewish%20people&srchtxt=0&srchhead=1&srchauthor=0&srchsandp=0&scsrch=0

She didn't think to mention that at no time did the Israeli government cooperate with the enquiry ( a point made in the report) so complaining that they didn't get a fair chance to air their views is a bit ridiculous.

She is also the author of Londonistan which promotes and encourages hate towards the ethnic communities.

Israel defenders are idiots
yeah call out Amnesty international and human rights watch

It just makes the IDF look more evil
Yeah these groups that protect human rights they are the enemy of Israel??? pretty sure that by definition make Israel a BAD guy Hams may be a bad guy too But Israel has Just admitted to disagreeing with Human rights and Not belonging part of the western alliance.

If they are not part of the west cut ALL AIDE to them. let them stand on their own and when they and Palestine have killed enough of each other take the lands in the name of the west again.

Cuchulain wrote:This is what really gets my goat.
The claim in the video will always be questionable without corroborating evidence. Not only that we have no idea if the individual has been paid to make such a view. Going off hearsay is just that, being convinced by someone saying something. It needs evidence.
As I say the nazi's would play off the exact same claims with forced testimonies of Jews.

It turns my stomach that some would use such comparative Nazi methodology in their arguments.

Actually it's the other way round. People who continually ridicule those who speak out in what they see as injustices even suggesting that they are ltying and indeed being paid to lie are the one's who want to bury their views and opinions.

Riduculing and demonising them are the tactics that the Nazi's, Pinochet and tyrants like them leading oppressive governments are the one's who should be getting anyone's goat not people who speak out for what they believe in what is going on.

Irn Bru wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:This is what really gets my goat.
The claim in the video will always be questionable without corroborating evidence. Not only that we have no idea if the individual has been paid to make such a view. Going off hearsay is just that, being convinced by someone saying something. It needs evidence.
As I say the nazi's would play off the exact same claims with forced testimonies of Jews.

It turns my stomach that some would use such comparative Nazi methodology in their arguments.

Actually it's the other way round. People who continually ridicule those who speak out in what they see as injustices even suggesting that they are ltying and indeed being paid to lie are the one's who want to bury their views and opinions.

Riduculing and demonising them are the tactics that the Nazi's, Pinochet and tyrants like them leading oppressive governments are the one's who should be getting anyone's goat not people who speak out for what they believe in what is going on.

OMG LMAO
No its people like you that use the same tactics of the Nazi's.
People who compare Apartheid and crimes by the Nazi's to Israel do not understand history, that is a simple fact and by doing so insult the those who suffered under both. What you do is never think there is for one second an industry behind making these claims well funded with one intent that wants the destruction of Israel. Money talks, but you never question that. I at least recognise where there is evidence of crimes. You ignore crimes and even worse ignore when I point out the many crimes of Hamas.
People like yourself Irn are the worst traitors to democracy which is no surprise when you are a signed up member to communism.

Irn Bru wrote:Setting aside the tag-teaming that is going on here given Melanie Phillips views on Israel she can hardly be expected to give an objective view on anyone who critises Israel. Even oneof her colleagues at Jewish Chronicle spoke out abiut how far she was going and how wrong she was in what she was saying. Read it here...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxhHk-kM0huWZnh3NmI5QzRDMWs/edit

She didn't think to mention that at no time did the Israeli government cooperate with the enquiry ( a point made in the report) so complaining that they didn't get a fair chance to air their views is a bit ridiculous.

She is also the author of Londonistan which promotes and encourages hate towards the ethnic communities.

LMAO This is all IRN can do try to deligitimize who writes articles.
He can never take on what is posted about a situation.
What did the Nazi's do?
deligitimize the Jews as subhuman.
She believes London has become a hot bed for extremism.
How has that created hate when we have people like Anjem Choudary.
Seriously, people like you are so short sighted and have blinkers on.
So you do not like the writer, so what, take on the points as all you prove is how you cannot accept facts

Cuchulain wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:Setting aside the tag-teaming that is going on here given Melanie Phillips views on Israel she can hardly be expected to give an objective view on anyone who critises Israel. Even oneof her colleagues at Jewish Chronicle spoke out abiut how far she was going and how wrong she was in what she was saying. Read it here...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxhHk-kM0huWZnh3NmI5QzRDMWs/edit

She didn't think to mention that at no time did the Israeli government cooperate with the enquiry ( a point made in the report) so complaining that they didn't get a fair chance to air their views is a bit ridiculous.

She is also the author of Londonistan which promotes and encourages hate towards the ethnic communities.

LMAO This is all IRN can do try to deligitimize who writes articles.
He can never take on what is posted about a situation.
What did the Nazi's do?
deligitimize the Jews as subhuman.
She believes London has become a hot bed for extremism.
How has that created hate when we have people like Anjem Choudary.
Seriously, people like you are so short sighted and have blinkers on.
So you do not like the writer, so what, take on the points as all you prove is how you cannot accept facts

But it isn't just London with Melanir Phillips - it's thr whole country which she says is rotting and decaying because of immigration and muticulturism.

This is the Melanie Philips that Anders Breivik drew inspiration from in quoting her articles in his manifesto which he wrote before going on to murder innocent children in Norway.

This is the Melanie Philips that condems the government for bringing in legislation to allow same sex marraige. I take it you have read her article 'Making a mockery of marriage'?

Here's what her colleague Jonathon Fredland thought of her.

The danger of Melanie Phillips
29/03/2007
Jonathan Freedland

It is an unwritten rule of my trade that you do not attack a colleague: dog doesn’t eat dog. We’re meant to show our teeth only to those in power, not humble scribblers like ourselves. But it is a tribute to one of my colleagues that her conviction and energy have made her a figure of genuine influence, one who has — as I shall reveal — moved beyond commentating on public affairs to affecting them. She is now more than a journo, rather a player in the national and, crucially, international conversation.

I am speaking of my fellow resident of this slot, Melanie Phillips. Though I always enjoy her company, I confess that I disagree with Melanie on most things. That’s fine: disagreement is a Jewish sport and we enjoy it. But in recent months, I feel Melanie has crossed a few lines that should not be crossed — and cannot go unchallenged.

First was a piece she wrote on her blog in which she condemned the Independent Jewish Voices group: it was headlined “Jews for genocide”. Now, as it happens, I have multiple criticisms of IJV — most of them amply aired already on these pages. But even their most trenchant opponents must surely blanch at the notion that these critics of Israel and of Anglo-Jewish officialdom are somehow in favour of genocide — literally, eager to see the murder and eradication of the Jewish people. I understand Melanie’s apparent logic — that by criticising Israel, IJV align themselves with a radical Islamism that wants Israel wiped off the map, ergo IJV are pro-genocide — but it is an absurdity, one that drains the word “genocide” of any meaning. For if Mike Leigh and Stephen Fry are for genocide, what word is left to describe, say, the Sudanese regime and their murderous assault on the people of Darfur?

But it was a sentence in Melanie’s January JC column that really got me going. “Individual Palestinians may deserve compassion,” she wrote, “but their cause amounts to Holocaust denial as a national project.” Read that line again. I have, along with the entire piece that preceded it. Think about what it means: that the Palestinian urge for national self-determination — their desire to have what we Jews yearned for so long, a homeland of our own where we might govern ourselves — is nothing more than a collective plot to deny Jewish suffering. So those Palestinians living under curfew and hemmed in by checkpoints aren’t angry about this hardship or desperate to throw off a 40-year occupation. No. Their shared desire, their national project, is to join David Irving in pretending that Hitler did not murder six million Jews. Of course, it follows that such people — a nation of neo-Nazis — deserve nothing, let alone a state of their own.

Some will tell me there is no point getting agitated by such sentiments, that newspaper columns are merely tomorrow’s fish-and-chip wrap. That may be true of what most of us in the column business churn out. But Melanie Phillips is different. She has acquired a particularly devoted audience — far beyond these shores.

In the United States, Melanie has a substantial following, with thousands logging on daily to her website or lining up to hear her lectures — several of the leading lights of American Jewry among them. They snap up copies of her book Londonistan, in which Britain — a rotting, decayed island awash with amorality — is on the brink of an Islamist takeover. Above all, they swallow whole her insistence that Europe is back in the 1930s, and that Britain now seethes with Jew-hatred.

I hear this from several well-placed leaders of Britain’s Jewish organisations, who have had to hose down their American counterparts. “I understand it’s not safe to walk down the street here as a Jew,” one US Jewish bigwig told a British colleague. “From what I hear, you guys are experiencing the kind of pogroms my grandmother lived through,” said another. Both these remarks were offered during recent fact-finding missions to Britain by major American Jewish organisations, here as if visiting a besieged community of Jews in peril.

In response, no less than the Chief Rabbi has had to join other British communal leaders to tell these visiting donors — associated with Aipac and the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish Organisations, among others — that London is not the Warsaw ghetto, that Europe is not an inferno and that there is no need for the big US bodies to come to Anglo-Jewry’s rescue. They have also had to explain that the US method of doing business — offering heavy financial help to pro-Israel MPs, for example — would not play well here.

Of course, it is mad to blame one person for shaping this distorted world view. But when asked where they had picked up this apocalyptic impression of the state of British Jewry, the Americans apparently cited one name again and again. Melanie will doubtless be heartened by that — but it might not be so good for the rest of us.

http://website.thejc.com/home.aspx?AId=51460&ATypeId=1&search=true2&srchstr=eager%20to%20see%20the%20murder%20and%20eradication%20of%20the%20Jewish%20people&srchtxt=0&srchhead=1&srchauthor=0&srchsandp=0&scsrch=0

Well I guess all those RW zealets that have populated this forum (and others) from time to time would be cheering her from the rafters for what she writes and you would be right in there cheering with them.  

So again nothing about the facts made in the report but the extremists lefties trying their hardest to deligitimize a former lefty journalist who saw the light

Cuchulain wrote:So again nothing about the facts made in the report but the extremists lefties trying their hardest to deligitimize a former lefty journalist who saw the light

See, there you go Didge. Right in there supporting what she writes. I always knew you were a fake and where your real sympathy lies and now you don't even try to deny it.

Irn Bru wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:So again nothing about the facts made in the report but the extremists lefties trying their hardest to deligitimize a former lefty journalist who saw the light

See, there you go Didge. Right in there supporting what she writes. I always knew you were a fake and where your real sympathy lies and now you don't even try to deny it.

So when your counter falls flat, you are left with only talking about me lol

Game over son

Cuchulain wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:So again nothing about the facts made in the report but the extremists lefties trying their hardest to deligitimize a former lefty journalist who saw the light

See, there you go Didge. Right in there supporting what she writes. I always knew you were a fake and where your real sympathy lies and now you don't even try to deny it.

So when your counter falls flat, you are left with only talking about me lol

Game over son

But it's true isn't it. And of course you never talk about me lol

Agreed her words are true, well done, I knew you would get there in the end lol

Cuchulain wrote:Agreed her words are true, well done, I knew you would get there in the end lol

I got there a long time ago with you Didge in how you were a fake. It's all come out now though with an admission right here.

Thanks for that

Irn Bru wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:Agreed her words are true, well done, I knew you would get there in the end lol

I got there a long time ago with you Didge in how you were a fake. It's all come out now though with an admission right here.

Thanks for that

Ha ha is that the best you can do after I just caught you out being in agreement with her.


Oh bless poor Irn

Cuchulain wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:Agreed her words are true, well done, I knew you would get there in the end lol

I got there a long time ago with you Didge in how you were a fake. It's all come out now though with an admission right here.

Thanks for that

Ha ha is that the best you can do after I just caught you out being in agreement with her.


Oh bless poor Irn

Your confused Didge. It's you that is agreeing with her and everything she has written.

You're a fake and you are pointing out that you agree with everything she says even her article 'The mockery of Marraige'.

Rumbled lol

She makes no mention in my article about marriage.
I certainly do not agree with her on that.
On Israel I agree.
Talk about the most lamest argument.
I do not back all Tory policies, so being a tory does not mean I back them, they are just the best choice of a bad bunch of parties.

That for of argument by you is playschool arguments, so not rumbled you are just exposed for being utterly ignorant yet again

veya_victaous wrote:Israel defenders are idiots
yeah call out Amnesty international and human rights watch

It just makes the IDF look more evil
Yeah these groups that protect human rights they are the enemy of Israel??? pretty sure that by definition make Israel a BAD guy Hams may be a bad guy too But Israel has Just admitted to disagreeing with Human rights and Not belonging part of the western alliance.

If they are not part of the west cut ALL AIDE to them. let them stand on their own and when they and Palestine have killed enough of each other take the lands in the name of the west again.        

no Israel supporters are people who see it differently that does not make them idiots ,you're such a bigot

Vicar of Dibley wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:Israel defenders are idiots
yeah call out Amnesty international and human rights watch

It just makes the IDF look more evil
Yeah these groups that protect human rights they are the enemy of Israel??? pretty sure that by definition make Israel a BAD guy Hams may be a bad guy too But Israel has Just admitted to disagreeing with Human rights and Not belonging part of the western alliance.

If they are not part of the west cut ALL AIDE to them. let them stand on their own and when they and Palestine have killed enough of each other take the lands in the name of the west again.        

no Israel supporters are people who see it differently that does not make them idiots ,you're such a bigot

The irony of Veya's post is that he does not believe in the self determination of the Aboriginals.
He shows the worst hypocrisy.

Cuchulain wrote:She makes no mention in my article about marriage.
I certainly do not agree with her on that.
On Israel I agree.
Talk about the most lamest argument.
I do not back all Tory policies, so being a tory does not mean I back them, they are just the best choice of a bad bunch of parties.

That for of argument by you is playschool arguments, so not rumbled you are just exposed for being utterly ignorant yet again

I suggested you look up her article 'The Mockery of Marraige' which you have read haven't you? You agree with her about immigration and multiculturism and how it is rotting our society.

Shw was an inspiration to Anders Breivik - she's on your side.

Nuff said

Irn Bru wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:She makes no mention in my article about marriage.
I certainly do not agree with her on that.
On Israel I agree.
Talk about the most lamest argument.
I do not back all Tory policies, so being a tory does not mean I back them, they are just the best choice of a bad bunch of parties.

That for of argument by you is playschool arguments, so not rumbled you are just exposed for being utterly ignorant yet again

I suggested you look up her article 'The Mockery of Marraige' which you have read haven't you? You agree with her about immigration and multiculturism and how it is rotting our society.

Shw was an inspiration to Anders Breivik - she's on your side.

Nuff said

Her views on marriage are at odds with mine.
Why should that make me not agree though with her points on Israel?
And the most idiotic of all, you claim she inspired Brevik, which by the some view means the Quran inspires every Islamic terrorist.

So why can I not agree with her views on Israel?
I do not agree with views by David Cameron and yet on others I do.
It shows you are being desperate again.

Nuff said

Cuchulain wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:She makes no mention in my article about marriage.
I certainly do not agree with her on that.
On Israel I agree.
Talk about the most lamest argument.
I do not back all Tory policies, so being a tory does not mean I back them, they are just the best choice of a bad bunch of parties.

That for of argument by you is playschool arguments, so not rumbled you are just exposed for being utterly ignorant yet again

I suggested you look up her article 'The Mockery of Marraige' which you have read haven't you? You agree with her about immigration and multiculturism and how it is rotting our society.

Shw was an inspiration to Anders Breivik - she's on your side.

Nuff said

Her views on marriage are at odds with mine.
Why should that make me not agree though with her points on Israel?
And the most idiotic of all, you claim she inspired Brevik, which by the some view means the Quran inspires every Islamic terrorist.

So why can I not agree with her views on Israel?
I do not agree with views by David Cameron and yet on others I do.
It shows you are being desperate again.

Nuff said

You agreed with what she wrote including our rotting and decaying society which is down to multiculturism she says.

Your former adversaries elsewhere will be rooting for you on that one Didge I'm sure.

Irn Bru wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:


Her views on marriage are at odds with mine.
Why should that make me not agree though with her points on Israel?
And the most idiotic of all, you claim she inspired Brevik, which by the some view means the Quran inspires every Islamic terrorist.

So why can I not agree with her views on Israel?
I do not agree with views by David Cameron and yet on others I do.
It shows you are being desperate again.

Nuff said

You agreed with what she wrote including our rotting and decaying society which is down to multiculturism she says.

Your former adversaries elsewhere will be rooting for you on that one Didge I'm sure.

This is why your argument is idiotic.

Ben and I agree on some things, others we do not.
So by this anything I disagree with Ben on, I should not agree with anything Ben says according to your weird methodology then?
That has to be the most idiotic statement you have ever made