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Post by Guest Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:52 am

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http://news.sky.com/story/1504847/obama-gun-plea-after-black-church-killings

Barack Obama has told Americans the time is approaching when they will have to face up to their country's record on gun crime.

The US President was speaking after nine worshippers at a black church in South Carolina were shot dead by a young white man.

The suspect, Dylann Roof, an admirer of white supremacist regimes, was arrested in a neighbouring state after fleeing the scene.

"I've had to make statements like this too many times," Mr Obama said, referring to a series of mass murders in the United States in recent years.

"Once again, innocent people were killed in part because someone who wanted to inflict harm had no trouble getting their hands on a gun.


American do not let this man disarm you it will be disastrous..

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Post by Original Quill Sun Jun 21, 2015 9:12 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:A simple statement of facts of recorded crimes.


Facts that also show double the amount of whites are killed by police than blacks.

Facts that you, yourself, don't even understand.

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jun 21, 2015 10:01 pm

I understand them but it seems some people can't grasp it...
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Post by Guest Sun Jun 21, 2015 10:19 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:A simple statement of facts of recorded crimes.


Facts that also show double the amount of whites are killed by police than blacks.

in simple numbers ?

or in terms of "per head of population"...?

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jun 21, 2015 11:06 pm

Click the link... it is actual numbers of deaths.



Whites being twice as many than blacks over the period of years listed... at first glance you would expect whites to be much higher and black lower as blacks only account for 13% of population but then when you considered that blacks are responsible for about half of violent crime then will be subject to half of the police action in response... so should be more 50/50 in deaths, not twice as many whites than blacks.


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Post by Guest Sun Jun 21, 2015 11:23 pm

rubbish tommy

you are arguing from false premises

if blacks = 13% of the population then if the proclivity to crime was the same for both populations whites would

expect to see about 7 times as many killings

assuming blacks are responsible for half the violent crime then given an equal response by the authorities

whites should STILL expect to see 3.5 times as many killings....

and that wold be normal ...not something that is indicative of any bias,,,,


statistics aint your strong point is it?

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Jun 21, 2015 11:57 pm

You are wrong.


Blacks are responsible for about half the total crime.


So half of overall police response is targeting blacks.


So if half the time police are dealing with apprehending black people and the other half of their time is apprehending white people then You would expect to have similar numbers of black and whites dying during this.

Of course ideally no people should really be dying at all as a result of apprehension. That goes without saying...


But although police time apprehending blacks and whites is about 50/50... twice as many whites died as a result of police apprehension.


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Post by Guest Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:14 am

Oh for goodness sake is this racist prick still craping on about why he is a racist twit?
Tommy blooper you are constantly wrong because you are scared of the fact you are descended from people who had darker skin than you. Big deal,.

How many times have you to be told about crime figures and discrimination?
When are you going to grow up and stop being a racist fuckwit?

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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:25 am

Dodge, you are a tit who constantly ignores the facts on reported crime and the descriptions on the alleged perpetrators.



I posted a link which showed that over a number of years, around half the crime was reportedly done by blacks and half by whites.


Therefore the police will be apprehending a roughly even number of blacks and whites and in a much similar way as they are all trained to do.


But it showed that twice as many whites died as a result of police apprehension than blacks did.



If police apprehend 100,000 blacks in a year and 100,000 whites... you would expect to see a similar number of black and white suspects dying as a result.


To have twice the number of whites dying than blacks shows something else is going on here...
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:45 am

Tommy Monk wrote:Dodge, you are a tit who constantly ignores the facts on reported crime and the descriptions on the alleged perpetrators.I posted a link which showed that over a number of years, around half the crime was reportedly done by blacks and half by whites. Therefore the police will be apprehending a roughly even number of blacks and whites and in a much similar way as they are all trained to do.
But it showed that twice as many whites died as a result of police apprehension than blacks did.
If police apprehend 100,000 blacks in a year and 100,000 whites... you would expect to see a similar number of black and white suspects dying as a result.
To have twice the number of whites dying than blacks shows something else is going on here...


What facts?




















































You are a racist idiot and as seen you have no facts.






























































You fail to understand crime.


















































You fail to understand anything because you are a racist dick

























































Now once again tackle my points and stop being an ignorant prick

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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:53 am

Twice as many whites die than blacks while being apprehended by police in USA while police are apprehending similar numbers of blacks as whites every year.



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Post by Guest Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:55 am

Tommy Monk wrote:Twice as many whites die than blacks while being apprehended by police in USA while police are apprehending similar numbers of blacks as whites every year.




49% compared to 30% is not twice as many and that is only figures on two years you complete fuckwit

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