The wonderful immorality of atheists

A few weeks ago, a colleague of mine confided in me about his son dropping a gigantic bomb regarding his religious stance. My friend’s child came out as an atheist, which understandably makes parents who do believe in religion a little uneasy. Despite the growing number of people in the U.S. who consider themselves unaffiliated with any particular religion, there is still a great deal of fear surrounding the atheist community because we’re taught that religion is where we develop our moral selves. But all it takes is a little investigating to understand that nothing could be further from the truth.

Case in point: the anonymous founder of the Biblical Gender Roles website, who seems to think there is no such thing as marital rape. Mr. Anonymous Creeper references the Bible in his post about the topic and states that if a married man wants to have sex with his wife, she simply can’t have the audacity of rejecting him. Remember ladies, if you’re married, your body no longer belongs to you, but rather to your husband.A “wife does not have the right to stand and deny her husband access to her body,” he writes, adding that she can ask for a delay with a “legitimate” reason, but “the judge of what is legitimate or not is her husband.” That’s not even the worst part of his laughable blog post, which makes me realize this clown is anonymous for a reason.

“But I will say this, despite American laws to the contrary, Biblically speaking, there is no such thing as ‘marital rape,’” the writer continues. “In the Scriptures, the only way rape occurs is if a man forces himself on a woman who is not his property (not his wife, or concubine). A man’s wives, his concubines (slave wives taken as captives of war or bought) could be made to have sex with him, no questions asked.” Oh, I guess a man having concubines is admissible in this very moral religious teaching, but a woman not being in the mood to fornicate is unacceptable. He even goes into detail about how a man can use lube to get her nice and ready for sexual activity she doesn’t want, especially if she’s having a hard time getting aroused on her own. And please ladies, don’t expect your husband to have a conversation with you every single time he wants to get laid. Sometimes all he wants is sex, and you should shut up and take it.

“But wives need also to understand that sometimes a man has a rough day, and all he wants to do is have sex and forget his troubles, he does not want to talk about it,” he writes. “Your wife needs to respect this, and should not ALWAYS insist that you have to first connect verbally, she also should try to see sex from your perspective too – that sometimes you won’t be ready to talk until after you have had sex.”
So, is that the lovely morality that atheists like me lack? If so, then I have no interest in being moral. I’d rather be an immoral person who believes that no man or woman’s body belongs to anyone except themselves. I’d rather believe in unions where both parties respect one another and compromise to make the bond stronger.

The notion that religion is necessary to teach people the difference between right and wrong is irrational and illogical. There isn’t any prevalence of atheists orchestrating suicide bombings or honor killings. I also don’t see non-believers advocating for the treatment of women as second-class citizens. I don’t see atheists traveling to other countries to convince their governments that murdering members of the LGBT community is fine and dandy! Brutal wars are currently being fought where innocent people are losing their lives in this very moment, and it’s all in the name of religion.

So the next time someone has the audacity to ask me how I can be moral without the fear of a sky god dictating my life, I’d like to ask them how many people they would murder if the fear of hell ceased to exist.


http://www.rawstory.com/2015/06/the-wonderful-immorality-of-atheists/

Fantastic article, and I'd just add:

* The Bible teaches that slavery is OK -- it has a few rules about it, but doesn't condemn owning other people as one of the absolute heights of immorality that any sane person knows it to be.

* The Bible does have something to say about how you touch yourself, though ...

* The Bible (the word of God, the source of all morality) makes stern pronouncements about eating certain animals -- and also says that bats are birds. I don't know how even a non-scientist could examine a dead bird and a dead bat and not know that the latter wasn't the same as the former.

* The Bible says your cotton-polyester blend is sinful. http://biblehub.com/deuteronomy/22-11.htm

* And, like your article says and which has been pointed out many times, fear of punishment is a horrible reason not to kill somebody.

Someone saying they're an athiest is a "gigantic bomb"?

Raggamuffin wrote:Someone saying they're an athiest is a "gigantic bomb"?

It's a metaphor -- it's not a real bomb.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:Someone saying they're an athiest is a "gigantic bomb"?

It's a metaphor -- it's not a real bomb.

Oh really?

(That was sarcasm by the way).

It's still not really even a metophorical bomb.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:Someone saying they're an athiest is a "gigantic bomb"?

It's a metaphor -- it's not a real bomb.

Oh really?

(That was sarcasm by the way).

It's still not really even a metophorical bomb.

Learn about the United States and its current religious situation, then let me know how big a bomb that wasn't.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Oh really?

(That was sarcasm by the way).

It's still not really even a metophorical bomb.

Learn about the United States and its current religious situation, then let me know how big a bomb that wasn't.

Are you saying that people in the US make too much fuss about things?

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Oh really?

(That was sarcasm by the way).

It's still not really even a metophorical bomb.

Learn about the United States and its current religious situation, then let me know how big a bomb that wasn't.

Are you saying that people in the US make too much fuss about things?

No, I'm saying that in the U.S., there's a big social stigma concerning coming out as an atheist.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Are you saying that people in the US make too much fuss about things?

No, I'm saying that in the U.S., there's a big social stigma concerning coming out as an atheist.

In other words, people make a fuss about it.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Are you saying that people in the US make too much fuss about things?

No, I'm saying that in the U.S., there's a big social stigma concerning coming out as an atheist.

In other words, people make a fuss about it.

Yes, because more of us are good faithful Christians than what you have in the UK.

If I am right in my understanding, being openly atheist would hinder a politician being elected for office right? Is it fair to assume it could be damaging in other occupations too?

From what it sounds like being atheist in some parts of America is almost as difficult as being gay in some parts of America.

So a pretty big bomb there I guess (though much less so compared with Bangladesh for example).

I don't know a single believer ho fears atheists, pity, wonder for heir eternity maybe but not fear...
Human morale standards are arbitrary to say the least, they differ so wildly from person to person, that is why God set a standard to keep to.

I think you are misunderstanding what the fear concerns...

I don't think so....

So all this is a fuss about the opinions of one man?

Ben_Reilly wrote:Fantastic article, and I'd just add:

* The Bible teaches that slavery is OK -- it has a few rules about it, but doesn't condemn owning other people as one of the absolute heights of immorality that any sane person knows it to be.

* The Bible does have something to say about how you touch yourself, though ...

* The Bible (the word of God, the source of all morality) makes stern pronouncements about eating certain animals -- and also says that bats are birds. I don't know how even a non-scientist could examine a dead bird and a dead bat and not know that the latter wasn't the same as the former.

* The Bible says your cotton-polyester blend is sinful. http://biblehub.com/deuteronomy/22-11.htm

* And, like your article says and which has been pointed out many times, fear of punishment is a horrible reason not to kill somebody.

Its a great article and shows up the absurdity of some of the morals in the bible where people can follow commands blindly and to the letter.
2000 years of this happenning

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Are you saying that people in the US make too much fuss about things?

No, I'm saying that in the U.S., there's a big social stigma concerning coming out as an atheist.

In other words, people make a fuss about it.

Yes, because more of us are good faithful Christians than what you have in the UK.

LOLOLOLOL

Sorry Ben but Raggs just got you good

to an Aussie that understand some of the differences in US and British language this conversation reads

R: people make too 'big a deal' out of things
B: No, People make a big deal out of being atheist
R: in other words they make a big deal out of things
B: Yes, because more Americans are stupid than Brits



do Americans not really use the word 'fuss' ?

Has Britain had atheist Prime Minister yet?

veya_victaous wrote:Has Britain had atheist Prime Minister yet?

I doubt it Veya or at least none that would admit it.

The Roman Catholic Relief Act.

No Roman Catholic to advise the Crown in the appointment to offices in the established church.

It shall not be lawful for any person professing the Roman Catholic religion directly or indirectly to advise his Majesty, or any person or persons holding or exercising the office of guardians of the United Kingdom, or of regent of the United Kingdom, under whatever name, style, or title such office may be constituted, [F1or the lord lieutenant of Ireland], touching or concerning the appointment to or disposal of any office or preferment in the [F2Church of England], or in the Church of Scotland; and if any such person shall offend in the premises he shall, being thereof convicted by due course of law, be deemed guilty of a high misdemeanor, and disabled for ever from holding any office, civil or military, under the Crown.


http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Geo4/10/7/section/18

That explains why Tony Balir converted to the Catholic faith after he left the Office of Prime Minister.

That being the case I doubt an atheist would be able to hold the office of prime minister as well.

Eilzel wrote:If I am right in my understanding, being openly atheist would hinder a politician being elected for office right? Is it fair to assume it could be damaging in other occupations too?

From what it sounds like being atheist in some parts of America is almost as difficult as being gay in some parts of America.

So a pretty big bomb there I guess (though much less so compared with Bangladesh for example).

Thanks, Les, I was talking about the atmosphere around the issue of atheism in the U.S., and we have only had a very few openly atheist political leaders, and those only within the past few years.

Atheists who speak out in the U.S. are routinely sent stuff like this:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Eilzel wrote:If I am right in my understanding, being openly atheist would hinder a politician being elected for office right? Is it fair to assume it could be damaging in other occupations too?

From what it sounds like being atheist in some parts of America is almost as difficult as being gay in some parts of America.

So a pretty big bomb there I guess (though much less so compared with Bangladesh for example).

Thanks, Les, I was talking about the atmosphere around the issue of atheism in the U.S., and we have only had a very few openly atheist political leaders, and those only within the past few years.

Atheists who speak out in the U.S. are routinely sent stuff like this:

the Worlds full of nutters

Exactly Ben. While haven't had an openly atheist PM yet we have many openly atheist MPs, including Ed Miliband and Nick Clegg. I don't for a second think Ed's failure to win the GE was a jot to do with being an atheist.

In the US being elected for any office may be difficult if known to be an atheist.

It is a fuss over opinions of course, but in case people failed to notice 'fusses over opinions' have led to millions deaths since the dawn of civilisations.

Eilzel wrote:Exactly Ben. While haven't had an openly atheist PM yet we have many openly atheist MPs, including Ed Miliband and Nick Clegg. I don't for a second think Ed's failure to win the GE was a jot to do with being an atheist.

In the US being elected for any office may be difficult if known to be an atheist.

It is a fuss over opinions of course, but in case people failed to notice 'fusses over opinions' have led to millions deaths since the dawn of civilisations.

Secularism is supposed to end it, I fully support "no secularism, NO TRADE" embargo the USA until it become civilized.
we threaten Iran and others with the same thing for the same thing
good for the goose good for the gander

AND Pretty sure the telling them they are following the god of greed and lies and would be much better of following a giant rainbow snake and the star gods will get you and even Better response than just 'Atheist'

You deny god I am a full on Blaspheming Heretic