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Post by veya_victaous Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:47 am

http://www.kutv.com/news/features/gephardt/stories/vid_474.shtml

For Christmas several years ago, Jen Palmer's husband ordered her a number of trinkets from the website kleargear.com. But for 30 days, Kleargear.com never sent the products so the transaction was automatically cancelled by Paypal, Jen said.

Wanting an explanation, Jen says she tried to call the company but could never reach anyone. So frustrated, she turned to the internet writing a negative review on ripoffreport.com.

"There is absolutely no way to get in touch with a physical human being," it says. And it accuses kleargear.com of having "horrible customer service practices."

That was the end of it, Jen thought, until three years later when Jen's husband got an email from Kleargear.com demanding the post be removed or they would be fined. Kleargear.com says Jen violated a non-disparagement clause. It turns out that, hidden within the terms of sale on Kleargear.com there is a clause that reads:

"In an effort to ensure fair and honest public feedback, and to prevent the publishing of libelous content in any form, your acceptance of this sales contract prohibits you from taking any action that negatively impacts kleargear.com, its reputation, products, services, management or employees."

The clause goes on to say if a consumer violates the contract they will have 72 hours to remove your post or face a $3500 fine. If that fine is not paid, the delinquency will be reported to the nation's credit bureaus.

"This is fraud," Jen said. "They're blackmailing us for telling the truth."

Never buy from kleargear.com I have never but they are jackasses and deserve to be out of business in every single way shape and form. they really should be imprisoned for fraudulent business practices.

They really don't seem to understand how the internet works, cause I've never even been to their site but posting about how they should be out of business. Bad practices are unacceptable and the business trying to use them should be annihilated for the good of humanity.
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Post by Ben Reilly Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:59 pm

There are so many examples that show libertarians' preference for regulation-by-reputation is a deeply flawed idea. This example also tends to reinforce my theory that all business is dishonest at its core.

Here's some fun reading:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/16/945768/-UPDATED-The-HB-Gary-Email-That-Should-Concern-Us-All

But for a defense contractor with ties to the federal government, Hunton & Williams, DOD, NSA, and the CIA - whose enemies are labor unions, progressive organizations, journalists, and progressive bloggers, a persona apparently goes far beyond creating a mere sockpuppet.

According to an embedded MS Word document found in one of the HBGary emails, it involves creating an army of sockpuppets, with sophisticated "persona management" software that allows a small team of only a few people to appear to be many, while keeping the personas from accidentally cross-contaminating each other. Then, to top it off, the team can actually automate some functions so one persona can appear to be an entire Brooks Brothers riot online.
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Post by veya_victaous Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:00 pm

yep it's like they have never heard of propaganda Shocked .. I mean advetrisement 8)yeah thats what they call it these days
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