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Post by Guest Sat May 02, 2015 6:33 pm



These are the appalling scenes captured by Newsnight and photographer Chip Somodevilla in which a Labour MP candidate (pint-sized sociology lecturer Rupa Huq) has leaflets shoved in her face and is grabbed from behind by both arms — simply for engaging Boris Johnson as he campaigned in the London marginal of Ealing Central and Acton.

Local Tory MP Angie Bray can clearly be seen grinning in the background, doing nothing whatsoever to restrain her own campaigners.

While Boris claimed not to know that Huq was Labour’s parliamentary candidate in the constituency, the same cannot be said for those grappling with her.

The grabbing-both-of-your-arms was performed by the Tories former deputy chairman Karim Sacoor, who looked to be marshalling Boris’ visit.

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The leaflets-in-your-face were courtesy of Ealing Broadway councillor Seema Kumar:

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Perhaps Angie Bray can explain what she found so amusing.

http://politicalscrapbook.net/2015/05/tories-attack-rupq-huq-during-boris-ealing-visit/


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Post by Guest Sat May 02, 2015 6:36 pm

ah you mean like the labour supporters that harrased farage

oh I forget...its "different" isnt it....

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Post by Guest Sat May 02, 2015 6:39 pm

Yes, because the people who simply were dancing in the pub did not belong to any political group, they were part of an LGBT Commuity theatre and he didn't like their dancing, and he was not manhandled by high up officials of another party, and other MPs didn't look on. Plus, at one point she had both arms pulled behind her, which is assault.

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Post by Guest Sat May 02, 2015 6:44 pm

I bet they didnt belong to a political group...but I bet they were all well to the left.

so he didnt like their dancing....hmmm.....thats a good excuse

so she's a tiny woman



hold on a min........

would it make any difference if she was a "tiny man"?

besides which there is no difference

BOTH are politically motivated harrasment

so no difference

neither should have happend

both are wrong


but stop squealing in support of one and against the other.....


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Post by Guest Sat May 02, 2015 6:49 pm

When a physical assault is carried out by a high up member of the Conservative party, and other MPs see it and laugh when all she was doing was asking Boris questions, then it is concerning to say the least. You are not allowed to put your hands on people and at one point on the full video both of her arms were pulled behind her back.

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Post by Guest Sat May 02, 2015 7:24 pm

yes and the law applies equally to all

or perhaps not.....

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Post by Ben Reilly Sat May 02, 2015 10:55 pm

darknessss wrote:I bet they didnt belong to a political group...but I bet they were all well to the left.

so he didnt like their dancing....hmmm.....thats a good excuse

so she's a tiny woman



hold on a min........

would it make any difference if she was a "tiny man"?

besides which there is no difference

BOTH are politically motivated harrasment

so no difference

neither should have happend

both are wrong


but stop squealing in support of one and against the other.....


Here's another big difference:



Plenty more like that from people who don't like Farage, but took his story at face value and condemned those who "harassed" him. Where's that from the right in the case of Huq?
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Post by Guest Sat May 02, 2015 11:03 pm

thats got nothing to do with it...yet....

we have to wait and see

I have said already both actions were wrong
some however seem to think one is OK and the other not


THAT is the problem.....

It seems some think political harrasment of a small party that is clearly rattling their cage and has ideas they dont like is fair game

but when something similar happens its terrible....

both actions wrong, but sheer hypocrisy for lefties to cry foul on this and yet openly revel in the other......

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Post by Ben Reilly Sat May 02, 2015 11:40 pm

darknessss wrote:thats got nothing to do with it...yet....

we have to wait and see

I have said already both actions were wrong
some however seem to think one is OK and the other not


THAT is the problem.....

It seems some think political harrasment of a small party that is clearly rattling their cage and has ideas they dont like is fair game

but when something similar happens its terrible....

both actions wrong, but sheer hypocrisy for lefties to cry foul on this and yet openly revel in the other......

Well, if you're going to try to make them equivalent, you have to consider a few things:

1) Was the harassment carried out by party leadership, party rank-and-file supporters, or by people who can't even be positively linked to the party?

2) Was any physical contact made?

3) Did party leadership condemn the harassment, or laugh about it?

I think you know that the answers in each of these cases are different.
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Post by Guest Sat May 02, 2015 11:51 pm

then you are indeed the lefty hypocrite

political harrasment is political harassment...full stop

the intention of both was intimidation

neither is acceptable...but do carry on making excuses for the lefty thugs

your sort of intimidation is worse than mine ...so mine is acceptable....

if a group of R/W rabble had done the same to millipede you lefties would be screaming for a ban on R/W politics....and the abolition of all parties to the right of stalin

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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 12:04 am

darknessss wrote:then you are indeed the lefty hypocrite

political harrasment is political harassment...full stop

the intention of both was intimidation

neither is acceptable...but do carry on making excuses for the lefty thugs

your sort of intimidation is worse than mine ...so mine is acceptable....

if a group of R/W rabble had done the same to millipede you lefties would be screaming for a ban on R/W politics....and the abolition of all parties to the right of stalin

They did.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ed-miliband-punched-shoved-protesters-5409428

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Post by Ben Reilly Sun May 03, 2015 12:19 am

darknessss wrote:then you are indeed the lefty hypocrite

political harrasment is political harassment...full stop

the intention of both was intimidation

neither is acceptable...but do carry on making excuses for the lefty thugs

your sort of intimidation is worse than mine ...so mine is acceptable....

if a group of R/W rabble had done the same to millipede you lefties would be screaming for a ban on R/W politics....and the abolition of all parties to the right of stalin

You just get more and more ridiculous. Obviously the actions of the leaders of a party carry more weight than the actions of its lay supporters. You haven't even proven the people who harassed Farage were acting on behalf of Labour.

You'll just say anything with no regard to your reputation, apparently. As long as it's bile, apparently it meets your standards ...
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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 12:21 am

The fact is Farage was harnessed to the point his children did flee scared. When a mob of people descend into a pub with the intention of targeting an individual having time with their family, it is utterly wrong and there is no excuse just like with this lady. Intimidation is always wrong and that is what they did to Nigel, it does not matter what groups they represent, what they did was wrong.

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Post by Ben Reilly Sun May 03, 2015 12:24 am

Nemesis wrote:The fact is Farage was harnessed to the point his children did flee scared. When a mob of people descend into a pub with the intention of targeting an individual having time with their family, it is utterly wrong and there is no excuse just like with this lady. Intimidation is always wrong and that is what they did to Nigel, it does not matter what groups they represent, what they did was wrong.

Both are wrong, yes. But there are obvious differences. I could go out today and bomb a building and say I did it on behalf of the Democratic Party -- should Barack Obama be held accountable if I do that?

Whereas in the OP, we are talking about actual party leaders carrying out the harassment.
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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 12:30 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Nemesis wrote:The fact is Farage was harnessed to the point his children did flee scared. When a mob of people descend into a pub with the intention of targeting an individual having time with their family, it is utterly wrong and there is no excuse just like with this lady. Intimidation is always wrong and that is what they did to Nigel, it does not matter what groups they represent, what they did was wrong.

Both are wrong, yes. But there are obvious differences. I could go out today and bomb a building and say I did it on behalf of the Democratic Party -- should Barack Obama be held accountable if I do that?

Whereas in the OP, we are talking about actual party leaders carrying out the harassment.



Differences?
Yes this was one man which you are now making the whole Tory party culpable for, that is absurd

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Post by Ben Reilly Sun May 03, 2015 12:34 am

So Sacoor, Kumar and Bray are all just one person?
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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 12:36 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
darknessss wrote:then you are indeed the lefty hypocrite

political harrasment is political harassment...full stop

the intention of both was intimidation

neither is acceptable...but do carry on making excuses for the lefty thugs

your sort of intimidation is worse than mine ...so mine is acceptable....

if a group of R/W rabble had done the same to millipede you lefties would be screaming for a ban on R/W politics....and the abolition of all parties to the right of stalin

You just get more and more ridiculous. Obviously the actions of the leaders of a party carry more weight than the actions of its lay supporters. You haven't even proven the people who harassed Farage were acting on behalf of Labour.

You'll just say anything with no regard to your reputation, apparently. As long as it's bile, apparently it meets your standards ...

thats alright benny boy, just keep on digging

wonder what being the hypocrit does to YOUR rep? see I dont post for "reputation" or "brownie" points or juvenile things like that.
I see you are slowly descending into the ruck.....good thats it let the dark flow in ...and when you run out of corners to hide in or rocks to hide under...why you can insult instead Twisted Evil

as for proving the people who harrased farage being "representatives" ...I never made that claim....I said they were "supporters"

and that fact is clear....

silly dressing, tree hugging dope smoking hippies......what else COULD they be???

and yes there is something in the argument that the actions of a direct member of a party are more significant than that of mere supporters....
that however doesnt change the fact that both were wrong...all that changes is the degree of punishment that should be meted out

That difference though does NOT excuse some on here from reveling in one and screaming about the other....

THAT is hypocrisy

but never mind ben.......as ever YOUR opinion of me matters as much or quite possibly even less than does nemesis's (aka didge aka brasidas aka......) Named: Tories behind thuggish attack on Labour candidate 4233679493

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Post by Ben Reilly Sun May 03, 2015 12:38 am

OK, at least Bray indirectly apologized:

Angie Bray has apologised - via twitter - after footage and photos showed one of her party workers apparently dragging Labour candidate Rupa Huq away from Boris Johnson.

The prospective member for Ealing Central and Acton had been challenging Conservative, Mr Johnson, when he was on the campaign trail with Ms Bray along Churchfield Road in Acton.

Footage shows Conservative leaflets being thrust in her face and a party activist apparently manhandling Ms Huq as she questioned the London Mayor.

http://www.ealingtoday.co.uk/shared/eabrayhuq001.htm
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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 12:44 am

It might well have not been anything to do with her as far as we know...but then again it might ...who's to know...the video certainly isnt definative on that

however i am forbidden to comment on the actions of the other two, by the forum convention of hug a ..........


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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 12:44 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:So Sacoor, Kumar and Bray are all just one person?


You really are naive, gullible and so bad at being impartial.

So if we take now 3 as you claim, that is the Tory party at fault?

Talk about guilt by association, Tommy would be proud of you

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Post by eddie Sun May 03, 2015 10:23 am

There is always so much bias.
And it's always the same people.
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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 10:27 am

eddie wrote:There is always so much bias.
And it's always the same people.


Good Morning Eddie

I would also add that there is so much hypocrisy and from the same usual suspects.

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Post by eddie Sun May 03, 2015 10:28 am

Nemesis wrote:
eddie wrote:There is always so much bias.
And it's always the same people.


Good Morning Eddie

I would also add that there is so much hypocrisy and from the same usual suspects.

Morning Nemisis

Yes there is. I cannot stand it when people cannot see the same faults in everyone.
It's just plain ignorance.
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Post by Tommy Monk Sun May 03, 2015 5:04 pm

This labour twat was obviouslm there to cause harassment herself, and to disrupt as much as possible.



The UAF are constantly behaving like violent thugs at others peaceful demonstrations and the lefties don't seem to care about that...


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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 5:06 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:This labour twat was obviouslm there to cause harassment herself, and to disrupt as much as possible.



The UAF are constantly behaving like violent thugs at others peaceful demonstrations and the lefties don't seem to care about that...




And that is why you are clueless also, she has a right to ask questions and not to be harressed, you just showed you are as intolerant as some of the left here.

Epic fail

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun May 03, 2015 5:23 pm

She was there to cause trouble.


You know it, I know it and so does everyone else!
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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 5:26 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:She was there to cause trouble.


You know it, I know it and so does everyone else!

She's a Parliamentary candidate standing for Ealing Central and Acton you thick shit and has every right to question him.

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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 5:26 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:She was there to cause trouble.


You know it, I know it and so does everyone else!


Asking questions challenging a Mayor is perfectly normal, as nobody in such a position is beyond being questioned on their views. I hardly think one woman asking questions is in anyway causing trouble, where itseems you are protecting against having legitimate discourse,she was only one person, so there is no case for intimidation.
So no, you are just exposing how you are as intolerant as some of the left are here.
What happened to this lady and Nigel Farage were both wrong, its as simple as that

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun May 03, 2015 5:31 pm

No, She was there to cause trouble.


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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 5:32 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:No, She was there to cause trouble.




Stop talking bollocks, as seen you clearly are.

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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 5:32 pm

You don't think we should live in a democracy then Tommy? No-one should be allowed to question, even if they are standing for Parliament. We must all kow-tow and know our place?

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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 5:33 pm

Tommy, you are even more of a arse licking twit than I thought you were, and that's saying something.

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun May 03, 2015 5:36 pm

risingsun wrote:You don't think we should live in a democracy then Tommy? No-one should be allowed to question, even if they are standing for Parliament. We must all kow-tow and know our place?




No, that is the leftie way...




Vote UKIP for a return to democracy in our country!!!




While rising scum will be voting for a party who wants our country to be controlled by the EU dictatorshp!!!
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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 5:37 pm

So Tommy is against Politicians being questioned and thinks this is intolerance.

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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 5:39 pm

He also thinks if people do not agree with his views they are scum.

Which clearly proves he is against a democratic system, if his view is not the majority.

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun May 03, 2015 5:43 pm

I'm voting FOR our nations democracy by voting UKIP and to end the EU dictatorship...



While you and rising scum are voting against our national democracy and for the EU dictatorship!




Quite a difference don't you think...!?


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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 5:45 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:I'm voting FOR our nations democracy by voting UKIP and to end the EU dictatorship...
While you and rising scum are voting against our national democracy and for the EU dictatorship!
Quite a difference don't you think...!?


You are against democracy as just went against what a majority of people think, to call them scum because they do not agree with you. That is just about as undemocratic as you can get.
The EU system is democratic of which we get to vote for our representatives.
So clearly your views on democracy conflict and as seen you are not an advocate of democracy.

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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 5:48 pm

Don't be pathetic Tommy with that side step. If you want a democracy, people are allowed to question. So you obviously don't.

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun May 03, 2015 5:56 pm

She was there solely to disrupt and cause trouble.


You know it, I know it and everybody else knows it!



So she got a close up look at a leaflet and moved away... so what?


Don't hear you complaining about leftie UAF thugs throwing bricks and bottles and beating people up... so until you are going to be equal in your condemnation of violence then do one!


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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 5:59 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:She was there solely to disrupt and cause trouble.
You know it, I know it and everybody else knows it!
So she got a close up look at a leaflet and moved away... so what?
Don't hear you complaining about leftie UAF thugs throwing bricks and bottles and beating people up... so until you are going to be equal in your condemnation of violence then do one!


You just keep repeating the same incoherent drivel.
Again you just proved you are against democracy and call many fellow Brits as scum, all because they will vote different from you on policies proposed, showing you do not respect the democratic process.

Any EDL or UAF that commit to violence are promote hate are both wrong and I condemn both for when they do.

So do you condemn the EDL when they commit violence and promote hatred?

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun May 03, 2015 6:02 pm

And just to add... we had 13 years of being labeled as SIXHIRB by the leftie labour mugs like you for daring to question their 'democratic' agenda, while opening up the doors to unwanted mass immigration and signing our country away to The EU dictatorship... and You would vote them in again to do more of the same... so don't talk to me now about supporting democracy!!!



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Tommy Monk wrote:And just to add... we had 13 years of being labeled as SIXHIRB by the leftie labour mugs like you for daring to question their 'democratic' agenda, while opening up the doors to unwanted mass immigration and signing our country away to The EU dictatorship... and You would vote them in again to do more of the same... so don't talk to me now about supporting  democracy!!!



lol!


You just keep repeating the same incoherent drivel.
Again you just proved you are against democracy and call many fellow Brits as scum, all because they will vote different from you on policies proposed, showing you do not respect the democratic process.

Any EDL or UAF that commit to violence are promote hate are both wrong and I condemn both for when they do.

So do you condemn the EDL when they commit violence and promote hatred?

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun May 03, 2015 6:07 pm

It is you repeating the drivel dodge...
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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 6:09 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:It is you repeating the drivel dodge...


As seen you refuse to answer simple questions.

So again of which you brought up:

Any EDL or UAF that commit to violence are promote hate are both wrong and I condemn both for when they do.

So do you condemn the EDL when they commit violence and promote hatred?

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun May 03, 2015 6:16 pm

You are just repeating the same drivel again dodge...



I have highlighted how you and scum are anti democracy and will be voting for partys who will continue with the EU dictatorship takeover.



I have shown how scum fails to complain about leftie thugs committing much worse levels real levels of violence while being all up in arms about this leftie twat who just got moved on for trying to cause trouble.
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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 6:20 pm

Claims I am repeating lol

The case for irony is most apt for poor Tommy here

As proved before your views on the EU are infantile at best. You have been corrected so many times over laws made as well and still you promote babble

I have asked you to do the same in condemning the EDL when they promote hate and commit to violence. So by your reasoning where you have failed to condemn them, does that make you scum also by your reasoning? I mean I have condemned the UAF, so by your methodology, you make yourself as scum.
How ironic again lol

Laters, again this is just you Tommy turning another thread into a circus display, unable to take on the points.

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun May 03, 2015 6:27 pm

The trouble at EDL events is caused by the UAF...
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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 6:47 pm

So everyone of these convicted criminals are innocent according to Tommy and it is all because of the UAF
You cannot make it up how much Tommy is an idiot and how he still refuses to condemn them lol

http://edlcriminals.com/

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun May 03, 2015 7:12 pm

http://metro.co.uk/2013/06/01/calls-for-calm-as-far-right-groups-march-over-lee-rigby-death-3824457/



But in reality ALL (approx 1000) of them should have been arrested for having an illegal protest by parliament, And public order offences...
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