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Post by Guest Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:59 pm

In his column on the liberal website Elaph.com, Kurdish-Iraqi writer Mehdi Majid 'Abdallah called on the Palestinians and the Arabs in general to renounce the terrorism of Hamas and to extend a friendly hand to Israel. He wrote that, since its founding, Israel has been facing terrorism labeled as "resistance," and that today it is defending itself against Hamas, which is firing rockets on its civilian population. He added that Hamas, rather than Israel, was responsible for the death of innocent Palestinians, whereas Israel extended medical treatment to hundreds of thousands of Palestinians.
The following are excerpts from his column:[1]


http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/8532.htm

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Post by Guest Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:00 am

"Ever since its founding in the late 1940s, the young state of Israel has been facing constant terror labeled as 'resistance.' I do not mean to say that all Palestinians are terrorists, for some of them love life and prefer the culture of peace and to live in peace and security alongside Israel. I do not know if Hamas, when it fires its rockets randomly into Israeli cities, thinks of the fact that they will hit women and children who have done nothing wrong other than choose to live in the land that was stolen from them thousands of years ago and has now been restored to them. [Today] they wish to build this land, but Palestinian terrorism constantly sabotages their livelihood, their development [efforts] and their prosperity. Whether we like it or not, the land on which the Palestinians live belongs to the Jews, and there is historic and religious evidence of this, both Islamic and non-Islamic. I shall not present it here, but the reader is welcome to search the Internet and find plenty of proof for what I say.
"Today the Palestinians have begun to understand that Hamas is a serious liability and a terrorist movement. That is why we saw no significant Palestinian opposition to the international and Arab decisions to designate Hamas a terror organization. The glamour of so-called 'resistance' faded after the deeds of its leaders and perpetrators were exposed, and [now] they no longer convince any intelligent person.
"Hamas leader Isma'il Haniya is always calling to boycott Israel, eliminate it and destroy it, and is always urging the Palestinians not to maintain any ties with it, in any domain. He has even sent thousands of young Palestinians to die [for this cause]. But when his sister, his daughter and some other members of his family fell ill, one after the other, we immediately saw him send them to the best hospitals in Tel Aviv, where they received treatment before being sent back to Gaza unharmed. Why [were they sent back unharmed]? If Israel was [really] a murderer of Palestinian women and children, as the Arab media falsely maintains, it would have regarded Haniya's relatives as choice prey. If Israel [really] wanted to exterminate the Palestinians, as the Arabs and Muslims falsely maintain, why didn't it have Haniya's sister and daughter killed or raped?
"Instead of [taking] the funds that are given to the Palestinian people and investing them in the poor and the needy, Hamas and other Gazan movements rush [to invest them in] the building of secret tunnels and passages for purposes of terror...
"According to a UN report, in 2008 Israel, which the Palestinians claim murders innocent children, took in 144,838 Palestinians for purposes of medical treatment. In 2009 this figure grew by 20%, reaching 172, 863, in 2010 it reached 175,151, in 2011 it grew by 13%, reaching 197,713, and in 2012 it reached 210,469. I wonder if any Arab country would do the same for Israelis?
"The Palestinian women and children who are killed in the Israeli army's defensive war against Hamas are not killed deliberately. They are collateral damage, for any war has innocent victims. Israel knows this well, as evidenced by the fact that, after every defensive military operation, it apologizes for the [death of] innocent victims and compensates their families morally and financially. Were it not for the reckless actions of Hamas, which constantly fires rockets into extensive parts of Israel [where] peaceful [people live], there would have been no innocent victims, because Israel's actions are directed against the terrorists.
"It is time that the Arabs, Muslims and Palestinians, who are deceived and drugged by false and baseless slogans, wake up and extend a friendly hand to Israel, so that peace and security can prevail and everyone can live in peace. Every decent Palestine should oppose Hamas and its terrorism against Israel. If the Palestinians want to avoid being harmed by Israeli fire, they should prevent Hamas from using their homes, mosques and schools [as bases from which] to launch its terrorist rockets at Israel."

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Post by Irn Bru Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:18 am

Have you got a link for that?
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Post by Guest Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:20 am

Irn Bru wrote:Have you got a link for that?



First post

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Post by Irn Bru Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:28 am

Nemesis wrote:
Irn Bru wrote:Have you got a link for that?



First post

Oh right.

Surprising Ties between Israel and the Kurds

It's a very long article so I'll just give you the link so that you can read it all.

And don't you think that it maybe a good idea for the Israeli's to extend a hand of friendship to the Palestinians by stopping building new settlements and denouncing the UN decision to grant statehood to Palestine? Works both ways really - don't you think?

http://www.meforum.org/3838/israel-kurds
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Post by Guest Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:33 am

Irn Bru wrote:
Nemesis wrote:



First post

Oh right.

Surprising Ties between Israel and the Kurds

It's a very long article so I'll just give you the link so that you can read it all.

And don't you think that it maybe a good idea for the Israeli's to extend a hand of friendship to the Palestinians by stopping building new settlements and denouncing the UN decision to grant statehood to Palestine? Works both ways really - don't you think?

http://www.meforum.org/3838/israel-kurds


Well you seem to be ignoring all the evidence and I am all for a two state solution which again the Palestinians could have had 3 times. They choose war and lost and normally would lose their lands in many other conflicts, strange how Israel has given back lands then is it not?

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Post by Guest Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:37 am

By the we way I have no problem with a school have a religious theme and even that religion promoted in religious lessons and even the school funded by religious organisations. But many times you see religious views conflict with not only science, but equality and social cohesion. Both Christianity and Islam both view their own followers as chosen and special over non-believers, which as seen from countless centuries of violence is one of the reasons why the violence has continued with literal belief

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Post by Irn Bru Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:40 am

Nemesis wrote:
Irn Bru wrote:
Nemesis wrote:



First post

Oh right.

Surprising Ties between Israel and the Kurds

It's a very long article so I'll just give you the link so that you can read it all.

And don't you think that it maybe a good idea for the Israeli's to extend a hand of friendship to the Palestinians by stopping building new settlements and denouncing the UN decision to grant statehood to Palestine? Works both ways really - don't you think?

http://www.meforum.org/3838/israel-kurds


Well you seem to be ignoring all the evidence and I am all for a two state solution which again the Palestinians could have had 3 times. They choose war and lost and normally would lose their lands in many other conflicts, strange how Israel has given back lands then is it not?

What evidence? Show me this evidence that the Palestinian's have been offered their own state and under what conditions and explain why Israel objects to the UN decision.
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Post by Guest Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:44 am

I keep posting countless points on countless threads, only to answer your questions and you continue to ignore my questions and points. I have given you the evidence on another thread

Sorry but if you cannot bother to show some decency in debating with some honesty and address points, I really am not going to waste my time every time you avoid them


If you address them, then please do and the debate can continue


Choice is yours but am not going to play these silly games of yours.

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Post by Irn Bru Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:05 am

Nemesis wrote:I keep posting countless points on countless threads, only to answer your questions and you continue to ignore my questions and points. I have given you the evidence on another thread

Sorry but if you cannot bother to show some decency in debating with some honesty and address points, I really am not going to waste my time every time you avoid them


If you address them, then please do and the debate can continue


Choice is yours but am not going to play these silly games of yours.

What evidence? what posts? What threads? What am I avoiding?

Did you read all of that article?
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Post by Guest Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:10 am

You had your chance


I do not play games with posters who are not interested in a serious debate. The details have been posted as you well know

Thank you for your time

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Post by Irn Bru Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:25 am

Nemesis wrote:You had your chance


I do not play games with posters who are not interested in a serious debate. The details have been posted as you well know

Thank you for your time

I gave you an article to read on Israeli/Kurdsh relationships and and you won't even comment on it so how am I not being serious on this debate?
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