Sen. Allen would make church mandatory
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Sen. Allen would make church mandatory
Our Father who art in heaven ... could you take a moment out of your busy schedule and come down here, please?
We need You to explain a few things to Arizona state State Sen. Sylvia Allen.
(I know. You're shaking your head, aren't you? This might be too daunting a task even for YOU.)
Allen, as You know, is a Republican from Snowflake, a Tea Party favorite who wants to pretend Arizona is an independent country rather than a state, and who believes government should stay completely out of people lives -- unless she can use her position to help out a son-in-law who got into some hot water over behavior with some of the inmates he was guarding at a women's prison.
But that's another story.
http://www.azcentral.com/story/ejmontini/2015/03/26/sylvia-allen-arizona-legislature-mandatory-church/70482802/
Anyway, Big Guy, they were debating a gun bill at a legislative committee meeting at the State Capitol this week so, naturally, Allen brought up religion.
(In Arizona, complete lack of logic is natural. But, you know that, too)
This was one of those crazy bills in which lawmakers want people to be able to bring concealed weapons into public buildings. Allen got upset because a few people expressed common sense opposition to the idea. Lawmakers here cannot abide common sense.
Allen said, "Probably we should be debating a bill requiring every American to attend a church of their choice on Sunday to see if we can get back to having a moral rebirth," adding "that would never be allowed."
She hinted that guns in public buildings might be necessary until there is a moral rebirth.
(I couldn't find anything about that in the New Testament, but I'm no biblical scholar.)
"I believe what's happening to our country is that there's a moral erosion of the soul of America," she said.
Allen later told the Arizona Capitol Times that she wished things were more like they were in the 1950s.
(Again, I know what you're thinking: Civil rights problems. Women's rights problems. Voting rights problems. Segregated schools.)
Allen told the Times, "People prayed, people went to church. I remember on Sundays the stores were closed. The biggest thing is religion was kicked out of our public places, out of our schools."
I'm not sure that even a Supreme Being such as yourself could get through to the lesser beings in the Arizona Legislature, but perhaps You could take a moment and explain to them the Constitutional reason for a separation between church and state. And perhaps explain as well that religion and morality are not something that comes from public schools, but from our faiths, our families and, ultimately, ourselves.
I'm not one for mixing religious faith with newspaper work, but I say this with both exasperation and solicitation:
God help us.
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Re: Sen. Allen would make church mandatory
I think 30 Rock perfectly captured the phenomenon of sending crazy people to state and federal legislative bodies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYzCn_Aj4rE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYzCn_Aj4rE
Re: Sen. Allen would make church mandatory
wont happen as she acknowledged .....its in the constitution ffs.....shes a loon.....and she talkedcabout this DURING SB 2320 which now goes to the full AZ Senate which means some jackass would be able to bring in a concealed or open carry gun into my library!!!!!
Regardless of any signs posted up my district would have to pay for and install a metal detector AND a guard to monitor it and my library is less than 900 sq ft. if I spit from the front door I could just about hit the back wall.
this is beyond disgusting. I'm on my own I have one late night and last week dealt with 2 meth heads - one of whom got verbally aggressive. Now I got to deal with some gun nuts. golly this will sure make me feel safer - not.
this state is unbelievable.
Regardless of any signs posted up my district would have to pay for and install a metal detector AND a guard to monitor it and my library is less than 900 sq ft. if I spit from the front door I could just about hit the back wall.
this is beyond disgusting. I'm on my own I have one late night and last week dealt with 2 meth heads - one of whom got verbally aggressive. Now I got to deal with some gun nuts. golly this will sure make me feel safer - not.
this state is unbelievable.
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One look, and you cannot help but notice that there are three states overloaded with Mormons: Idaho, Utah and Arizona. Nevada and Wyoming are proportionately high, but the population in those states is so low as to disregard them. Arizona is by far the most populated of the three states, and Phoenix is the 7th-largest city in the US. That's why it is continually in the news.
In the 19th-century people of the Morman religious persuasion populated the Wasatch Mountains, and the western slope of the Rocky Mountain Range. They blend in like everyday folk--indeed that is their M.O.--but they are not the same. They have a unique religious culture. They believe in polygamy. They believe in marrying 10 to 12-year old female children to 43-year old men, to procreate and have as many of god's children as possible, and they are Neo-Nazi conservative politically. Most of all, they live around their religion.
They are not Christians. Even thought they have a 'Jesus' in their name, he is not the same Jesus as Christ. (Indeed, they may have put Jesus in the name in order to blend in, as is their M.O.) As written in the Book of Mormon, they do not believe in the holy trinity. Hence, they reject the Pauline doctrine, as reflected in the Roman (or King James) Bible. Perhaps because of their insularity, the are fanatics in their religion.
Do you wonder why these weird pieces of legislation come out of Arizona? As a former Assistant Attorney General of Arizona, I had to police that state.
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then come back ffs.....we need more normal sane people!!!!!
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