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Post by veya_victaous Thu Aug 14, 2014 4:58 am

http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/changeorg-and-the-business-of-outrage/story-fnda1bsz-1227023841063

Change.org is part of a newish wave of companies that claim to place “social good” at the core of their mission. Known as social enterprises, and sometimes as B Corporations, these businesses try to combine social good with profit. Think Tom Shoes, which gives a free pair of shoes to a disadvantaged child for every pair purchased by a consumer. The idea is, you can do good and make money.

But as a business model, it’s still evolving. Mr Brewer said every dollar Change.org made was plugged back into the business so it can expand, giving more people access to its platform. But Change.org still has investors who, presumably, would like to see a return on their investment someday.

“Eventually we want to make a profit and give back to our investors, essentially in the form of a dividend,” he said. “We’ve committed to never go public or sell out, which are the primary ways investors exit. But we have values-aligned investors and they’re committed. It’s not a short-term exit strategy for them and it’s about finding a revenue-positive business model than can work. It’s evolving; I would be lying if I told you we found the perfect answer.

The non-profit model is great for a lot of things but it’s not great for a global technology company that’s available to anyone in the world. We want give people a democratic tool.”
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Post by veya_victaous Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:27 am

I personally Left Change.org
over the Wicked Vans Saga
As much as they say they promote good things they don't they just promote what ever got clicks even if it is largely lies and flies against art and freedom of expression.
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Lots of Issues with change.org

there is absolutely no ability to Reply or respond to FALSE unfair One sided petitions
they are now requesting Members 'donate' money in order to have their petitions "seen by more people"
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Post by veya_victaous Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:28 am

There are real ones out there...  Change.org is just NOT ONE OF THEM
https://www.getup.org.au/about

GetUp is an independent, grassroots advocacy organisation, built to hold politicians to account. We're not-for-profit, not a political party and we're funded by our members' donations.

We are working toward a parliament with economic fairness, social justice and environmental sustainability at its core.

GetUp brings together progressive people from all political backgrounds and parties, but is independent of all parties. It is GetUp's political independence that allows us to work with and critique all political parties without fear or favour.
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Post by Guest Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:23 am

Don't know why you left Change.org over one petition that you didn't agree with Veya! That's the whole point, anyone can start a petition about anything they feel strongly about, if you don't agree with it, you don't sign it, and it's only the ones that are very well supported that get anywhere. They have never asked me for money, and many of the petitions I have signed and backed have been for brilliant things and have done a lot of good.

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Post by veya_victaous Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:22 pm

@sassy
because there is No way to Counter sign
Or make a counter petition...
they allow some one that is Passionate about publishing lies to try and ruin a good company they disagree with on religious grounds.

Plus as the article points out they Are NOT a not for profit they are an advertising company.
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Post by veya_victaous Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:27 pm

I hope they completely disappear same with any NOT not for profit creating a false image of being one. OR a profit driven organisation pushing political objectives....
the whole situation with change.org is rife for corruption.
AND because they a profit driven they pay for marketing to drive the Actual not for profit community petition organisation out of the media/public conscious .
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Post by Guest Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:31 pm

They are an advertising company?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Never knew that.

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Post by veya_victaous Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:19 am

is there an equivalent of Getup in the UK
an Actual not for profit..

The shame about change.org
is you are right they have done some good things but at the same time.... it is so open to abuse and future 'bait and switch' that fact that it is a still beholden to shareholders really raises issues about it's impartiality.
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Post by Guest Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:41 am

Not sure Veya, perhaps I'll stick to SumOfUs lol

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