'Racism is alive and well': Video of woman's appalling N-word rant in car park surfaces

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:25 pm

First topic message reminder :

A man has posted a video entitled 'Blatant Racism in Cheektowaga NY' on YouTube that appears to show a stranger making bilious racist comments and calling him a "nasty f***ing n****r".

The altercation took place outside a Dollar General store in the US, with the man parked in his car and the woman on the phone nearby with her two young children.
"I have her on tape calling me racist comments, calling me a n****r," user IAMOYAB says at the video's opening.
"Racism alive and well. Amazing," he adds, before the woman replies: "Sure is. It's disgusting what black people got into."
It is not clear what started the argument, with the woman claiming the man "scared her children".

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/racism-is-alive-and-well-video-of-womans-appalling-nword-rant-in-car-park-surfaces-9482837.html

by Tommy Monk Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:06 pm

Maybe, or just a dumb arse red neck or some other type of insulting language.

by Guest Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:12 pm

I think the word n---er is just a word and i don't understand why it is offensive don't white people get called names but you don't hear them crying racist it's just another way to try and shut people up .

If black people call themselves it then it really isn't bothering them in my opinion .

by Ben Reilly Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:15 pm

If a black person (or another non-white person) called me a honky, you bet your ass I'd call them a racist.

by eddie Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:39 pm

Just putting something out there:

Isn't it true that when you're angry, you'll say the first and what you perceive the ugliest, thing you can see?

Ie: You fat bastard! You bald bastard! You dirty scabby chav! You black bastard! You two-timing old git!

Etc etc

by Ben Reilly Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:06 pm

eddie wrote:Just putting something out there:

Isn't it true that when you're angry, you'll say the first and what you perceive the ugliest, thing you can see?

Ie: You fat bastard! You bald bastard! You dirty scabby chav! You black bastard! You two-timing old git!

Etc etc

But she probably wouldn't have unleashed racial slurs at him if he was white -- so she thinks of black people in terms of skin color and white people as "normal," so she's racist. Try to imagine her calling a white guy "honky" and you'll see what I mean.

Even if she only said it in anger, she brought race into it.

by Tommy Monk Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:30 pm

She was just saying what she thought would be upsetting.

In this case all she could think of was 'nigga'.

by veya_victaous Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:52 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
eddie wrote:Just putting something out there:

Isn't it true that when you're angry, you'll say the first and what you perceive the ugliest, thing you can see?

Ie: You fat bastard! You bald bastard! You dirty scabby chav! You black bastard! You two-timing old git!

Etc etc

But she probably wouldn't have unleashed racial slurs at him if he was white -- so she thinks of black people in terms of skin color and white people as "normal," so she's racist. Try to imagine her calling a white guy "honky" and you'll see what I mean.

Even if she only said it in anger, she brought race into it.

but maybe if the Guy was black and fat or Black and Obviously gay she would have called him a Fat bastard or Faggot Rolling Eyes

by veya_victaous Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:55 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:If a black person (or another non-white person) called me a honky, you bet your ass I'd call them a racist.

I guess that's the difference, I would not give the slightest of fucks.

You don't see what started the altercation but it looks like they are both jackasses

by Guest Thu Jun 05, 2014 12:04 am

eddie wrote:Just putting something out there:

Isn't it true that when you're angry, you'll say the first and what you perceive the ugliest, thing you can see?

Ie: You fat bastard! You bald bastard! You dirty scabby chav! You black bastard! You two-timing old git!

Etc etc

That's been my argument on these forums for 4 years now eddie.

And you know one thing about me don't you - i'm always right! Wink

by Guest Thu Jun 05, 2014 12:08 am

Joy Division wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Xtras, yes I think most certainly.
The guy had obviously pissed her off, add she wanted to retaliate verbally.
If it was a fatty then that would be the line of attack.
Or a baldy, or an old person etc, would have been 'you bald so and so' or 'You old so and so'.

What did the guy do to piss her off Tommy that was the cause of this racist attack?

I told you earlier:

WBLK 93.7 this morning posted on its website an audio recording of its interview with the woman. The woman told the radio station that the man taking the video almost hit her son with his car, which she said angered her.

by Guest Thu Jun 05, 2014 12:17 am

BigAndy9 wrote:
Joy Division wrote:

What did the guy do to piss her off Tommy that was the cause of this racist attack?

I told you earlier:

WBLK 93.7 this morning posted on its website an audio recording of its inteGrview with the woman. The woman told the radio station that the man taking the video almost hit her son with his car, which she said angered her.

...So because she claims that, is that her evidence?..

On the Guardian link it clearly says ...'it is not known what started the argument'.

Anyway, that guy would have been panicked and frightened if he had of nearly hit her kids, and I'm sure that racist fool would have been shouting about it.

Don't try to make unfounded claims again Andy.

by Ben Reilly Thu Jun 05, 2014 12:29 am

If screaming the n-word at a black person over and over again is not racist, then what exactly is? ::D::

FFS!

by veya_victaous Thu Jun 05, 2014 12:45 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:If screaming the n-word at a black person over and over again is not racist, then what exactly is? ::D::

FFS!

it really still depends on the motivation. A word is just a word.
she doesn't seem to be pissed at him Just for being black, she is using racist insults but it is not unprovoked. she calls him a Racist too and it is Clear that the altercation has gone on long enough where she is already on the phone and he has got out his and started recording Neutral

like I said both Jackasses, he says stuff to make it worse if he is leaving why doesn't he just leave Suspect

not enough evidence to say who is actually in the wrong (if he did nilly hit here kid the reaction while still not right is understandable)

by Guest Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:15 am

You've got it absolutely spot on veya!

If i was walking down the street and i saw a black man and had to run over to spit in his face and just couldn't help myself from calling him a ni66er i think that would show i'm a racist.

If i got in to an argument with said black man over something and it got very heated and i called him a ni66er that would show i was in a heated argument and was throwing insults about.

These "videos" only show arguments with insults in them, they do not show racism!

by Guest Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:44 am

BigAndy9 wrote:You've got it absolutely spot on veya!

If i was walking down the street and i saw a black man and had to run over to spit in his face and just couldn't help myself from calling him a ni66er i think that would show i'm a racist.

If i got in to an argument with said black man over something and it got very heated and i called him a ni66er that would show i was in a heated argument and was throwing insults about.

These "videos" only show arguments with insults in them, they do not show racism!

Oh right, the woman shouts ' fucking n---er,,your a fucking n---er ' repetitively , but

that's not racist behaviour?, you do know she is referring to the colour of his skin, and I'm sure if that guy said 'white trash' ,that would be taken as racism..and rightly so.

Call,it racism, crime or want you like...it's still same thing...prejudice , bias.

by veya_victaous Thu Jun 05, 2014 2:17 am

Joy Division wrote:
BigAndy9 wrote:You've got it absolutely spot on veya!

If i was walking down the street and i saw a black man and had to run over to spit in his face and just couldn't help myself from calling him a ni66er i think that would show i'm a racist.

If i got in to an argument with said black man over something and it got very heated and i called him a ni66er that would show i was in a heated argument and was throwing insults about.

These "videos" only show arguments with insults in them, they do not show racism!

Oh right, the woman shouts ' fucking n---er,,your a fucking n---er ' repetitively , but

that's not racist behaviour?, you do know she is referring to the colour of his skin, and I'm sure if that guy said 'white trash' ,that would be taken as racism..and rightly so.

Call,it racism, crime or want you like...it's still same thing...prejudice , bias.

Yeah but the point is they are arguing already when the video starts she is calling him a Racist n---er so there is EVERY chance he did call her Honky or Cracker so is a racist too.

And really once angry and the altercation has begun it doesn't count as it is not the motivation for the altercation, she has Not walked up to his car and started arguing with him because he is black (that would be truly racist) they are Already Deep in Altercation, Not enough Evidence to Say she is truly Racist.

by Guest Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:40 am

veya_victaous wrote:
Joy Division wrote:

Oh right, the woman shouts ' fucking n---er,,your a fucking n---er ' repetitively , but

that's not racist behaviour?, you do know she is referring to the colour of his skin, and I'm sure if that guy said 'white trash' ,that would be taken as racism..and rightly so.

Call,it racism, crime or want you like...it's still same thing...prejudice , bias.

Yeah but the point is they are arguing already when the video starts she is calling him a Racist n---er so there is EVERY chance he did call her Honky or Cracker so is a racist too.

And really once angry and the altercation has begun it doesn't count as it is not the motivation for the altercation, she has Not walked up to his car and started arguing with him because he is black (that would be truly racist) they are Already Deep in Altercation, Not enough Evidence to Say she is truly Racist.

Not really Veya, as if he had called her anything she would have stated it back saying he called her so and so, and thus do not but that for one minute. I also do not buy saying it in the heat of the moment has any validity either, as people know such a word is racist and she is abusing him because of his skin colour. She may not be racist in every day life, but sure had no problem being racist to him, and you can be angry and abusive back without using racism terminology

by Guest Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:44 am

veya_victaous wrote:
Joy Division wrote:

Oh right, the woman shouts ' fucking n---er,,your a fucking n---er ' repetitively , but

that's not racist behaviour?, you do know she is referring to the colour of his skin, and I'm sure if that guy said 'white trash' ,that would be taken as racism..and rightly so.

Call,it racism, crime or want you like...it's still same thing...prejudice , bias.

Yeah but the point is they are arguing already when the video starts she is calling him a Racist n---er so there is EVERY chance he did call her Honky or Cracker so is a racist too.

And really once angry and the altercation has begun it doesn't count as it is not the motivation for the altercation, she has Not walked up to his car and started arguing with him because he is black (that would be truly racist) they are Already Deep in Altercation, Not enough Evidence to Say she is truly Racist.

You are right and put it so much clearer then i did

by Guest Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:48 am

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:

Yeah but the point is they are arguing already when the video starts she is calling him a Racist n---er so there is EVERY chance he did call her Honky or Cracker so is a racist too.

And really once angry and the altercation has begun it doesn't count as it is not the motivation for the altercation, she has Not walked up to his car and started arguing with him because he is black (that would be truly racist) they are Already Deep in Altercation, Not enough Evidence to Say she is truly Racist.

You are right and put it so much clearer then i did

veya gives a good opinion, but it is an assumption, my take is her kids were playing near his car, he started his, car the kids got a fright being so near to it with also him being shocked, not seeing they were there and next minute the Mother comes in all guns blazing believing he has nearly run them over, even though he has not moved. That would explain her reaction, if she thought he was being reckless. I say she thought, from her reaction she was very nasty and threatening to the man, not only herself but to get her husband to sort him out. She never called the Police, which is odd, which you would in such a given situation, unless she was guilty of being abusive

by Guest Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:48 am

veya_victaous wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:If screaming the n-word at a black person over and over again is not racist, then what exactly is? ::D::

FFS!

it really still depends on the motivation. A word is just a word.
she doesn't seem to be pissed at him Just for being black, she is using racist insults but it is not unprovoked. she calls him a Racist too and it is Clear that the altercation has gone on long enough where she is already on the phone and he has got out his and started recording like I said both Jackasses, he says stuff to make it worse if he is leaving why doesn't he just leave

not enough evidence to say who is actually in the wrong (if he did nilly hit here kid the reaction while still not right is understandable)

i said the same thing she had walked away but he was still sitting in his car and he was making the situation worse by reminding her about the n---er word he also in my opinion mentioned to her that she better go watch her kids, that was intended to imply she wasn't doing her job as a mother , again to make her even angrier . He could have drove off and the rest of the argument wouldn't have happened .

by Ben Reilly Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:52 am

Nobody knows for sure what predicated this argument, but the fact remains, she screamed the n-word at this guy in anger.

I've been angry at people of all races before and I never felt the need to bring race into it. It's bullshit, I don't buy for one second that you can scream racial slurs at a person when you're angry, but otherwise have no other racist opinions whatsoever. In other words, if those terms are part of your vocabulary, even when you're upset, there's a reason.

by Guest Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:53 am

Didge wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:

You are right and put it so much clearer then i did

veya gives a good opinion, but it is an assumption, my take is her kids were playing near his car, he started his, car the kids got a fright being so near to it with also him being shocked, not seeing they were there and next minute the Mother comes in all guns blazing believing he has nearly run them over, even though he has not moved. That would explain her reaction, if she thought he was being reckless. I say she thought, from her reaction she was very nasty and threatening to the man, not only herself but to get her husband to sort him out. She never called the Police, which is odd, which you would in such a given situation, unless she was guilty of being abusive

You are guessing though it doesn't prove a thing. She wasn't the one carrying on the argument she was on the phone and it seemed nothing was happening until the black guy goaded her saying ''i am recording this where you called me a n---er'' he mentioned n---er more times than she did .
In my opinion this is not a racist attack it is an argument where two people get too angry and yeah you can say he was calm but he was still goading her no excuse for that .

I didn't see her lash out at him or damage his vehicle all i saw was a woman being goaded who in the end was pushed over the top to say he was a n---er .

by Ben Reilly Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:54 am

It's sort of like how people say things when they're drunk and you know they really mean them, it's because something happened, whether anger or intoxication, that lowered their inhibitions.

by Ben Reilly Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:55 am

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Didge wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:

You are right and put it so much clearer then i did

veya gives a good opinion, but it is an assumption, my take is her kids were playing near his car, he started his, car the kids got a fright being so near to it with also him being shocked, not seeing they were there and next minute the Mother comes in all guns blazing believing he has nearly run them over, even though he has not moved. That would explain her reaction, if she thought he was being reckless. I say she thought, from her reaction she was very nasty and threatening to the man, not only herself but to get her husband to sort him out. She never called the Police, which is odd, which you would in such a given situation, unless she was guilty of being abusive

You are guessing though it doesn't prove a thing. She wasn't the one carrying on the argument she was on the phone and it seemed nothing was happening until the black guy goaded her saying ''i am recording this where you called me a n---er'' he mentioned n---er more times than she did .
In my opinion this is not a racist attack it is an argument where two people get too angry and yeah you can say he was calm but he was still goading her no excuse for that .

I didn't see her lash out at him or damage his vehicle all i saw was a woman being goaded who in the end was pushed over the top to say he was a n---er .

She did lash out at him, she screamed possibly the most offensive word in English directly into his face and didn't even care she was being recorded.

by Guest Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:56 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:Nobody knows for sure what predicated this argument, but the fact remains, she screamed the n-word at this guy in anger.

I've been angry at people of all races before and I never felt the need to bring race into it. It's bullshit, I don't buy for one second that you can scream racial slurs at a person when you're angry, but otherwise have no other racist opinions whatsoever. In other words, if those terms are part of your vocabulary, even when you're upset, there's a reason.

It is possible Ben, people use the one obvious thing to hurt someone , if that man had been fat i think she would have said '' you big fat bastard'' if he had been skinny she would have said '' shut up you skinny little bastard '' both do not mean she dislikes fat or thin people .

it is like kids arguing , if one kid has freckles that will be the first line of insult, i another kid has ginger hair that will be first line of insult . The guy was black she used that to insult him .

by Guest Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:59 am

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Didge wrote:

veya gives a good opinion, but it is an assumption, my take is her kids were playing near his car, he started his, car the kids got a fright being so near to it with also him being shocked, not seeing they were there and next minute the Mother comes in all guns blazing believing he has nearly run them over, even though he has not moved. That would explain her reaction, if she thought he was being reckless. I say she thought, from her reaction she was very nasty and threatening to the man, not only herself but to get her husband to sort him out. She never called the Police, which is odd, which you would in such a given situation, unless she was guilty of being abusive

You are guessing though it doesn't prove a thing. She wasn't the one carrying on the argument she was on the phone and it seemed nothing was happening until the black guy goaded her saying ''i am recording this where you called me a n---er'' he mentioned n---er more times than she did .
In my opinion this is not a racist attack it is an argument where two people get too angry and yeah you can say he was calm but he was still goading her no excuse for that .

I didn't see her lash out at him or damage his vehicle all i saw was a woman being goaded who in the end was pushed over the top to say he was a n---er .

Well there are a few points to take from the video, he actually asks her to call the Police, she replies "please do" and tells him she is calling her husband, the first sign she knows she is in the wrong, if she thought in anyway he had been reckless, she would have called the Police, which he was not clearly going anywhere and I would state the same if I had actually missed recording her saying it the first time. Think about it, the first part is not shown, thus to me not recorded. Thus she called him names and also n---er so stated it knowing she would say it again. Not only that she had little if no concern for her own children throughout this, allowing them to be witness to some of the worst verbal abuse, mainly from their own mother, not the driver, he actually says to the boy "iits okay" and she states he hates blacks also

Sorry she is caught banged to rights and I would start recording also, if someone was that abusive, mainly and for one reason only, she also claimed he had scared her kids, and if faced with a later lawsuit, I would want most of what was stated by her as evidence against her. Again she was not interested in getting the Police, which speaks volumes to her guilt

by Guest Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:59 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:

You are guessing though it doesn't prove a thing. She wasn't the one carrying on the argument she was on the phone and it seemed nothing was happening until the black guy goaded her saying ''i am recording this where you called me a n---er'' he mentioned n---er more times than she did .
In my opinion this is not a racist attack it is an argument where two people get too angry and yeah you can say he was calm but he was still goading her no excuse for that .

I didn't see her lash out at him or damage his vehicle all i saw was a woman being goaded who in the end was pushed over the top to say he was a n---er .

She did lash out at him, she screamed possibly the most offensive word in English directly into his face and didn't even care she was being recorded.

It's offensive because it has been made offensive , i really don't think black people can cry racist for someone calling them n---er when they use the word themselves . It doesn't show a good example at all and like someone else pointed out when kids hear it they will think it is okay as black people use the word too .

She lashed out after he constantly goaded her .

by Guest Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:02 am

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:

She did lash out at him, she screamed possibly the most offensive word in English directly into his face and didn't even care she was being recorded.

It's offensive because it has been made offensive , i really don't think black people can cry racist for someone calling them n---er when they use the word themselves . It doesn't show a good example at all and like someone else pointed out when kids hear it they will think it is okay as black people use the word too .

She lashed out after he constantly goaded her .

Oh for goodness sake, so what if he does not use the word nigga himself towards black friends, so now you associate other blacks who do to now make it acceptable that he receives racist abuse?
That is absurd, and you are being an apologist now for all racist people against blacks.

There is utterly no excuse for her behaviour

by Ben Reilly Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:03 am

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:Nobody knows for sure what predicated this argument, but the fact remains, she screamed the n-word at this guy in anger.

I've been angry at people of all races before and I never felt the need to bring race into it. It's bullshit, I don't buy for one second that you can scream racial slurs at a person when you're angry, but otherwise have no other racist opinions whatsoever. In other words, if those terms are part of your vocabulary, even when you're upset, there's a reason.

It is possible Ben, people use the one obvious thing to hurt someone , if that man had been fat i think she would have said '' you big fat bastard'' if he had been skinny she would have said '' shut up you skinny little bastard '' both do not mean she dislikes fat or thin people .

it is like kids arguing , if one kid has freckles that will be the first line of insult, i another kid has ginger hair that will be first line of insult . The guy was black she used that to insult him .

I still maintain that if he'd been white, there would be no way she'd call him a cracker, honky, redneck or any other white racial slur.

She'd focus on something other than his race -- IF he was white.

If he was a fat black man, she wouldn't have called him fat -- she'd have called him a n---er. If he'd been bald (hey, what's so bad about being bald?), she wouldn't have called him baldy -- she'd have called him a n---er. It shows the racist mindset and I don't care what anybody says otherwise.

Not to mention, it's really bad situation management. If you have your kids with you, how big of a fuckhead do you have to be to say the most anger-provoking thing you can think of?

by Guest Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:03 am

I disagree Didge, she was calling her husband for support which is what i would do , she was a woman with her kids and he was a man in a car i would say she was more vulnerable than him .

He goaded her to call the police , why didn't he do it if he was so offended ?

i am sticking to my opinion on this , she was goaded and he was making the situation worse and enjoying it .

I'm going to look on different threads now i have given my opinion so no need to keep going over it with you because you will only entice me on your magic roundabout .

by Ben Reilly Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:04 am

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:

You are guessing though it doesn't prove a thing. She wasn't the one carrying on the argument she was on the phone and it seemed nothing was happening until the black guy goaded her saying ''i am recording this where you called me a n---er'' he mentioned n---er more times than she did .
In my opinion this is not a racist attack it is an argument where two people get too angry and yeah you can say he was calm but he was still goading her no excuse for that .

I didn't see her lash out at him or damage his vehicle all i saw was a woman being goaded who in the end was pushed over the top to say he was a n---er .

She did lash out at him, she screamed possibly the most offensive word in English directly into his face and didn't even care she was being recorded.

It's offensive because it has been made offensive , i really don't think black people can cry racist for someone calling them n---er when they use the word themselves . It doesn't show a good example at all and like someone else pointed out when kids hear it they will think it is okay as black people use the word too .

She lashed out after he constantly goaded her .

Of course they can. It means something totally different if someone of your own race calls you a racial slur than it does if someone of a different race calls you one. That is beyond obvious.

by Guest Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:05 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:

It is possible Ben, people use the one obvious thing to hurt someone , if that man had been fat i think she would have said '' you big fat bastard'' if he had been skinny she would have said '' shut up you skinny little bastard '' both do not mean she dislikes fat or thin people .

it is like kids arguing , if one kid has freckles that will be the first line of insult, i another kid has ginger hair that will be first line of insult . The guy was black she used that to insult him .

I still maintain that if he'd been white, there would be no way she'd call him a cracker, honky, redneck or any other white racial slur.

She'd focus on something other than his race -- IF he was white.

If he was a fat black man, she wouldn't have called him fat -- she'd have called him a n---er. If he'd been bald (hey, what's so bad about being bald?), she wouldn't have called him baldy -- she'd have called him a n---er. It shows the racist mindset and I don't care what anybody says otherwise.

Not to mention, it's really bad situation management. If you have your kids with you, how big of a fuckhead do you have to be to say the most anger-provoking thing you can think of?

it depends on how big of a wanker the black guy was in the first place, was he black and obese and couldn't get out of his car ? who knows he is hiding behind his camera so maybe he is the fuckhead .

by Guest Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:07 am

You can disagree all you like, ou are just making very poor excuses for people to be racist, if she had called him a ----, a wanker, a fucking tosser, she is still out of order in front of her children, but she choose to be 100% racist, attacking him for being black, which also means to say she can, means also anyone can be racist and that is bullshit, I hope the Police catch up with her and send her to jail to send a string message against such racial hatred.

Then she might learn to choose her abusive nature better next time, she has no right to say what she said

by Guest Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:07 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:

It's offensive because it has been made offensive , i really don't think black people can cry racist for someone calling them n---er when they use the word themselves . It doesn't show a good example at all and like someone else pointed out when kids hear it they will think it is okay as black people use the word too .

She lashed out after he constantly goaded her .

Of course they can. It means something totally different if someone of your own race calls you a racial slur than it does if someone of a different race calls you one. That is beyond obvious.

No it isn't , i don't go about calling my white friends ''how you doing you pale faced honkie ''

by Guest Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:10 am

Didge wrote:You can disagree all you like, ou are just making very poor excuses for people to be racist, if she had called him a ----, a wanker, a fucking tosser, she is still out of order in front of her children, but she choose to be 100% racist, attacking him for being black, which also means to say she can, means also anyone can be racist and that is bullshit, I hope the Police catch up with her and send her to jail to send a string message against such racial hatred.

Then she might learn to choose her abusive nature better next time, she has no right to say what she said

I hope the police look at his video recording and see that it was on her kids all the while and she told him to turn it off and take it off her kids. I reckon he is a pervert who wanted to film kids playing . I hope he gets put away for being a pervert .
He had no right to film her kids the pervert .

See ya Razz

by Ben Reilly Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:12 am

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:

It's offensive because it has been made offensive , i really don't think black people can cry racist for someone calling them n---er when they use the word themselves . It doesn't show a good example at all and like someone else pointed out when kids hear it they will think it is okay as black people use the word too .

She lashed out after he constantly goaded her .

Of course they can. It means something totally different if someone of your own race calls you a racial slur than it does if someone of a different race calls you one. That is beyond obvious.

No it isn't , i don't go about calling my white friends ''how you doing you pale faced honkie ''

It's not part of your culture.

If you'd been brought up by people who were classified and ostracized as "honkies" in a derisive sense, maybe you'd call one another that to identify with your group and take the sting out of the slur, too.

by Guest Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:16 am

Right here she gives her version, though I will point out what I do not buy at the end:

CHEEKTOWAGA, N.Y. — A woman whose racist rant in a dollar store parking lot was recorded, now says she's sorry for her outburst — but not before the video of her diatribe received more than 1 million hits on YouTube.
The woman in the video said the confrontation began Friday after the man in a vehicle almost hit her young son, Tony, and she began talking to the child.
"I said, 'I'm sorry, Tony, some people are just ignorant,' " said the woman, Janelle, who asked that her last name not be used because of the vitriolic comments — more than 2,500 — that she has seen accompanying the YouTube video. "Then the guy started running his mouth. Being the protective mother that I am, I started running my mouth. And he threatened me, I don't know, saying that he was going to have me arrested or something."
Narvell, 36, of Cheektowaga, N.Y., said he started his truck and hadn't moved from his parking space but the noise of the engine startled Janelle's children in front of his vehicle. That's when the woman's rant began, sprinkled liberally with curse words and the N-word.
This Buffalo, N.Y., suburb is home to more than 75,000 people. Almost 87% are white; fewer than 1 in 10 are black.

"If my kids weren't there, if he didn't almost hit my son, none of this would have happened," she said. "He wouldn't have called me a crack-headed whatever and I wouldn't have had to flip out."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/04/parking-lot-racist-rant/9982371/

Clearly she flipped out from the start, because he nearly it her son, and how in such an open wide space, unless she was not mindful of what he was doing. To me her story has some truth, maybe her child was playing he pulled in and had to break hard, she then flipped out, but it does not make sense she was calm at this point and then flipped out when her daughter was startled, that makes no sense.

Poor excuse to say it means ignorance now, so basically even worse a word to be derogatory to blacks, also means they are ignorant.

Wow, lots of bull to cover her tracks

by Guest Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:19 am

Didge you are just pissed off because a few of us didn't see the video as racist you thought everyone would agree but they didn't .

He goaded her .

by Guest Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:21 am

Vicar of Dibley wrote:Didge you are just pissed off because a few of us didn't see the video as racist you thought everyone would agree but they didn't .

He goaded her .

Not pissed off at all Dibs, more concerned you seem to defend people being verbally abusive with racism.

What ever way you look at this even she admits what she said was wrong

by Ben Reilly Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:24 am

If she was a protective mother, she'd have put her kids' safety as the top priority and gotten away from the man, instead of getting into a verbal sparring match that she could have no way of knowing wouldn't turn violent. She's at best a bad mother who forgets the safety of her children.

Mindful, responsible, grown-up people don't even put themselves into harm's way like that, engaging in fights with strangers, let alone when they have their two children in tow.

by Guest Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:28 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:If she was a protective mother, she'd have put her kids' safety as the top priority and gotten away from the man, instead of getting into a verbal sparring match that she could have no way of knowing wouldn't turn violent. She's at best a bad mother who forgets the safety of her children.

Mindful, responsible, grown-up people don't even put themselves into harm's way like that, engaging in fights with strangers, let alone when they have their two children in tow.

What we would call road rage and without her in a car, she clearly needs anger management and agree she was very irresponsible around her children, not even thinking of their safety.

by Ben Reilly Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:33 am

Didge wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:If she was a protective mother, she'd have put her kids' safety as the top priority and gotten away from the man, instead of getting into a verbal sparring match that she could have no way of knowing wouldn't turn violent. She's at best a bad mother who forgets the safety of her children.

Mindful, responsible, grown-up people don't even put themselves into harm's way like that, engaging in fights with strangers, let alone when they have their two children in tow.

What we would call road rage and without her in a car, she clearly needs anger management and agree she was very irresponsible around her children, not even thinking of their safety.

Absolutely, who invites violence when they're with their kids?

I have always said, if someone breaks into my house, I will threaten them with my gun or shoot them if I have to, because I have no way of knowing whether they're breaking in to steal my TV or take my life ... and I am not going to take the chance.

She took a chance with her children's safety, I can't see how anyone could possibly defend that.

by Guest Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:40 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Didge wrote:

What we would call road rage and without her in a car, she clearly needs anger management and agree she was very irresponsible around her children, not even thinking of their safety.

Absolutely, who invites violence when they're with their kids?

I have always said, if someone breaks into my house, I will threaten them with my gun or shoot them if I have to, because I have no way of knowing whether they're breaking in to steal my TV or take my life ... and I am not going to take the chance.

She took a chance with her children's safety, I can't see how anyone could possibly defend that.

Agreed, she did take a big chance Ben

Here is another account:

http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/cheektowaga/police-chief-on-viral-racist-video-there-is-possibly-disorderly-conduct-20140604

by Ben Reilly Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:06 am

From this latest source, Didge:

Janelle Ambrosia can be heard telling the man that her son “don’t like black people, either.”

Hmmm ...

by Ben Reilly Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:07 am

“If substance or mental health issues are not at play here, then her conduct should be considered as nothing less than deplorable. Clearly, there are some people in today’s society who have not yet evolved in their beliefs. As a society we obviously have more work to do,” (Cheektowaga Police Chief David) Zack said.

by Ben Reilly Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:08 am

By the way, gotta love Americans' attempts to name places after their Native American names Smile

by Guest Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:21 am

Didge wrote:
Vicar of Dibley wrote:Didge you are just pissed off because a few of us didn't see the video as racist you thought everyone would agree but they didn't .

He goaded her .

Not pissed off at all Dibs, more concerned you seem to defend people being verbally abusive with racism.

What ever way you look at this even she admits what she said was wrong

I don't think calling anyone names because of colour or disability whatever , but in my opinion i really think the black guy could have driven off and ended the argument .

He did goad her it is clear to see in my opinion he wanted her to call him a n---er so he could get it on his phone , i don't know if there is another full video of the argument , if there is then maybe i can see it differently , but from that video i am seeing him goading her to get her to call him a n---er again .

by veya_victaous Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:53 am

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:Nobody knows for sure what predicated this argument, but the fact remains, she screamed the n-word at this guy in anger.

I've been angry at people of all races before and I never felt the need to bring race into it. It's bullshit, I don't buy for one second that you can scream racial slurs at a person when you're angry, but otherwise have no other racist opinions whatsoever. In other words, if those terms are part of your vocabulary, even when you're upset, there's a reason.

It is possible Ben, people use the one obvious thing to hurt someone , if that man had been fat i think she would have said '' you big fat bastard'' if he had been skinny she would have said '' shut up you skinny little bastard '' both do not mean she dislikes fat or thin people .

it is like kids arguing , if one kid has freckles that will be the first line of insult, i another kid has ginger hair that will be first line of insult . The guy was black she used that to insult him .

Dammit Agreeing with VOD Wink

Having worked with both Adults and kids I can confirm Adult Are really not much better when they get angry Mad

by veya_victaous Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:58 am

I Will Add I am in no way suggesting what she did was right or appropriate but people are idiots Rolling Eyes

And also I still think it is a bit ridiculous how much focus is placed on words. :-:bravo:-: :-:bravo:-: :-:bravo:-: :-:bravo:-: :-:bravo:-:

by xtras Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:06 am

Vicar of Dibley wrote:
Didge wrote:You can disagree all you like, ou are just making very poor excuses for people to be racist, if she had called him a ----, a wanker, a fucking tosser, she is still out of order in front of her children, but she choose to be 100% racist, attacking him for being black, which also means to say she can, means also anyone can be racist and that is bullshit, I hope the Police catch up with her and send her to jail to send a string message against such racial hatred.

Then she might learn to choose her abusive nature better next time, she has no right to say what she said

I hope the police look at his video recording and see that it was on her kids all the while and she told him to turn it off and take it off her kids. I reckon he is a pervert who wanted to film kids playing . I hope he gets put away for being a pervert .
He had no right to film her kids the pervert .

See ya

You know it amazes me how some people do not understand when someone is being racially abused your post is a classic example of that! Or you are on a wind up or just a bit dopey Smile

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