Should all those old enough to vote be allowed to vote?

by Guest Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:42 pm

before people are allowed to vote should there be some test of their intelligence or understanding of politics rather than assume they are old enough now so they can vote...

by Guest Wed Apr 02, 2014 2:39 pm

oh ok, i thought it would be an interesting debate...

by Guest Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:16 pm

well this fell flat..

by Eilzel Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:19 pm

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:before people are allowed to vote should there be some test of their intelligence or understanding of politics rather than assume they are old enough now so they can vote...

I would like to say yes- since frankly most RW thinking people always seem a bit mentally 'lacking' shall we say Wink

Haha, seriously though no- although I do think some people are so stupid that their vote would hardly be well thought out- I am sure such people exist who vote for every single party there is. Besides, such a system would be open to abuse Twisted Evil

by Ben Reilly Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:19 pm

Sorry! Just now saw it, and it is an interesting question. I would say there should be no test or anything to allow voting, because any test is going to be seen by some as biased and because there's so much potential for it to be abused.

Yes, I do come from the country that elected George W. Bush in 2004, so I know about being frustrated with uninformed voters, but I wouldn't change the system in that way.

by Guest Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:21 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:Sorry! Just now saw it, and it is an interesting question. I would say there should be no test or anything to allow voting, because any test is going to be seen by some as biased and because there's so much potential for it to be abused.

Yes, I do come from the country that elected George W. Bush in 2004, so I know about being frustrated with uninformed voters, but I wouldn't change the system in that way.

it just seems incredible that some have no idea about who they are voting for and what they stand for..

by Eilzel Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:23 pm

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:Sorry! Just now saw it, and it is an interesting question. I would say there should be no test or anything to allow voting, because any test is going to be seen by some as biased and because there's so much potential for it to be abused.

Yes, I do come from the country that elected George W. Bush in 2004, so I know about being frustrated with uninformed voters, but I wouldn't change the system in that way.

it just seems incredible that some have no idea about who they are voting for and what they stand for..

I actually have far more faith in uncertain voters than the 'tribal voters' who 'voted Labour/Tory because my father voted Labour/Tory and his father before him....' urgh...

by Ben Reilly Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:24 pm

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:Sorry! Just now saw it, and it is an interesting question. I would say there should be no test or anything to allow voting, because any test is going to be seen by some as biased and because there's so much potential for it to be abused.

Yes, I do come from the country that elected George W. Bush in 2004, so I know about being frustrated with uninformed voters, but I wouldn't change the system in that way.

it just seems incredible that some have no idea about who they are voting for and what they stand for..

http://www.theonion.com/articles/man-who-eats-breakfast-at-dunkin-donuts-every-morn,30259/

by Stephenmarra Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:40 pm

Eilzel wrote:
Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

it just seems incredible that some have no idea about who they are voting for and what they stand for..

I actually have far more faith in uncertain voters than the 'tribal voters' who 'voted Labour/Tory because my father voted Labour/Tory and his father before him....' urgh...

I'll agree with that Les also I would make it law that everyone has to vote or at least spoil the paper.

by Guest Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:43 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

it just seems incredible that some have no idea about who they are voting for and what they stand for..

http://www.theonion.com/articles/man-who-eats-breakfast-at-dunkin-donuts-every-morn,30259/

it does kinda make my point... Smile

by Guest Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:45 pm

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:before people are allowed to vote should there be some test of their intelligence or understanding of politics rather than assume they are old enough now so they can vote...

..now Favva...where will this lead is to??

Are you sure it's not just the rich type who should be allowed to vote?

We don't want to backwards so to speak.

by Guest Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:47 pm

Joy Division wrote:
Godisgoodallthetime wrote:before people are allowed to vote should there be some test of their intelligence or understanding of politics rather than assume they are old enough now so they can vote...

..now Favva...where will this lead is to??

Are you sure it's not just the rich type who should be allowed to vote?

We don't want to backwards so to speak.

i realise the risks but it is hard to imagine why so many potential voters have no idea and giving people in jail the vote, really !!

by Ben Reilly Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:51 pm

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:
Joy Division wrote:
Godisgoodallthetime wrote:before people are allowed to vote should there be some test of their intelligence or understanding of politics rather than assume they are old enough now so they can vote...

..now Favva...where will this lead is to??

Are you sure it's not just the rich type who should be allowed to vote?

We don't want to backwards so to speak.

i realise the risks but it is hard to imagine why so many potential voters have no idea and giving people in jail the vote, really !!

Is lifelong deprivation of the right to vote a reasonable punishment for, say, stealing a car?

by Guest Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:54 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

i realise the risks but it is hard to imagine why so many potential voters have no idea and giving people in jail the vote, really !!

Is lifelong deprivation of the right to vote a reasonable punishment for, say, stealing a car?

nope just while they serve their time, if they want the nice things that come with being a citizen, don't break the law...

by veya_victaous Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:22 pm

@GIG
can't do it.... people like me would push for anyone believing in magic sky giants to lose their vote... tongue

Just being honest Wink

by Eilzel Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:35 am

Haha good point veya, people who unquestionably accept myths as truths really are the last people who should have an opinion on who runs the country Smile

by Guest Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:17 pm

veya_victaous wrote:@GIG
can't do it.... people like me would push for anyone believing in magic sky giants to lose their vote... Just being honest

equality again you can't beat it

by Guest Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:19 pm

Eilzel wrote:Haha good point veya, people who unquestionably accept myths as truths really are the last people who should have an opinion on who runs the country

But it would be fine a gay to run the country , what would you do get all the CHRISTIANS together and shoot us , how about the .m.uslims would they be let off or would you shoot them too

by Guest Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:21 pm

Eilzel wrote:Haha good point veya, people who unquestionably accept myths as truths really are the last people who should have an opinion on who runs the country

oops thats evolutionists with no vote..lol

by Guest Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:26 pm

BBC interviewed 4 or 5 people last night after the Big Debate - one, who was in the audience and put a question to the two politicians (he was a young black foreigner) said he thought Nick Farage did best... oh, what, oh sorry, Nick Clegg.

The last one, a senile old woman also didn't know their names.

Pathetic.

by Guest Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:29 pm

BigAndy9 wrote:BBC interviewed 4 or 5 people last night after the Big Debate - one, who was in the audience and put a question to the two politicians (he was a young black foreigner) said he thought Nick Farage did best... oh, what, oh sorry, Nick Clegg.

The last one, a senile old woman also didn't know their names.

Pathetic.

at least they remembered the question ...

by Ben Reilly Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:41 pm

VOD(original) wrote:
Eilzel wrote:Haha good point veya, people who unquestionably accept myths as truths really are the last people who should have an opinion on who runs the country
But it would be fine a gay to run the country , what would you do get all the CHRISTIANS together and shoot us , how about the .Muslims would they be let off or would you shoot them too

What makes you think someone being gay makes them want to round up Christians or Muslims and shoot them?!

by Guest Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:50 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
VOD(original) wrote:
But it would be fine a gay to run the country , what would you do get all the CHRISTIANS together and shoot us , how about the .Muslims would they be let off or would you shoot them too

What makes you think someone being gay makes them want to round up Christians or Muslims and shoot them?!

you wold have to shoot the Muslims or run because if they had their way they would kill the gays...

by Eilzel Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:07 pm

VOD(original) wrote:
Eilzel wrote:Haha good point veya, people who unquestionably accept myths as truths really are the last people who should have an opinion on who runs the country
But it would be fine a gay to run the country , what would you do get all the CHRISTIANS together and shoot us , how about the .Muslims would they be let off or would you shoot them too

It was in the spirit of the thread Dibs- what difference does being gay make? It isn't anything to do with decision making and well thought out policy- whereas someone who believes in angels and resurrections and virgin births and men walking on water or men flying to heaven on winged horses and doesn't question those things- well you have to wonder if they can be really all that wise for running a country Laughing

by Guest Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:08 pm

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:

What makes you think someone being gay makes them want to round up Christians or Muslims and shoot them?!

you wold have to shoot the Muslims or run because if they had their way they would kill the gays...

Who would you rather shoot first Favva...a Muslim or a gay?

I know you definitely would love that chance, so denial is pointless ....

Your man enough to let your hate be known on here for both, but if you only had one bullet and were only allowed to kill one of them, which would it be Favva?....

by Guest Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:29 pm

Joy Division wrote:
Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

you wold have to shoot the Muslims or run because if they had their way they would kill the gays...

Who would you rather shoot first Favva...a Muslim or a gay?

I know you definitely would love that chance, so denial is pointless ....

Your man enough to let your hate be known on here for both, but if you only had one bullet and were only allowed to kill one of them, which would it be Favva?....

I was a sniper, maybe i could get lucky and get six with one bullet... Smile

by Guest Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:31 pm

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:
Joy Division wrote:

Who would you rather shoot first Favva...a Muslim or a gay?

I know you definitely would love that chance, so denial is pointless ....

Your man enough to let your hate be known on here for both, but if you only had one bullet and were only allowed to kill one of them, which would it be Favva?....

I was a sniper, maybe i could get lucky and get six with one bullet...

..six of each? ::lightsab::

by Guest Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:32 pm

Joy Division wrote:
Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

I was a sniper, maybe i could get lucky and get six with one bullet...

..six of each? ::lightsab::

it would depend on how much explosive the m.uslim was wearing obviously... Smile

by Guest Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:35 pm

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:
Joy Division wrote:

..six of each? ::lightsab::

it would depend on how much explosive the m.uslim was wearing obviously...

Your a real fcuker Favva Twisted Evil

by Guest Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:36 pm

Joy Division wrote:
Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

it would depend on how much explosive the m.uslim was wearing obviously...

Your a real fcuker Favva

it takes one to know one JD....

freedom fighters will eventually be needed... Smile

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