Why do straight men have a problem with homosexual men but not gay women?

by Fluffyx Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:24 pm

I know this does not apply to all straight men btw,the vast majority of which are not homophobic at all.

What does interest me as a straight female is why some men seem to be quite damning and intolerant of gay men but have no problem with gay women? It does seem to be a male trend as women often befriend gay men,their sexuality not being an issue at all.

Is it simply because lesbians together are asthetically pleasing to an onlooker straight male (hence their use in porn etc)?

I was just wondering what exactly is the mentality behind those men who seemingly won't tolerate gay men?

by Guest Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:41 pm

Lezzers are awesome!

The fake ones in porn films of course - not the real ones who are mainly ugly.

by Fluffyx Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:06 pm

BigAndy9 wrote:Lezzers are awesome!

The fake ones in porn films of course - not the real ones who are mainly ugly.

I am grateful for this insightful reply.. ::slap::

by Guest Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:31 pm

It depends on the problem you're talking about

I don't have a problem with gay men, I do have a problem homosexual supremacists

by Guest Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:40 pm

Some do, most dont however...

That's my opinion anyway...

by Ben Reilly Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:49 pm

There's research that suggests that straight men who are intolerant of gay men have repressed homosexual urges that could be the source of their enmity:

"Homophobic men were the most sexually aroused by gay male sex acts." - http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-questions/201106/homophobic-men-most-aroused-gay-male-porn

As far as straight men liking lesbians, especially the fake kind depicted in porn, I'll leave that one to Paul Reiser on Mad About You:

"Because it's naked and fun and I agree with both of them."

by Guest Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:54 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:There's research that suggests that straight men who are intolerant of gay men have repressed homosexual urges that could be the source of their enmity:

"Homophobic men were the most sexually aroused by gay male sex acts." - http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-questions/201106/homophobic-men-most-aroused-gay-male-porn

As far as straight men liking lesbians, especially the fake kind depicted in porn, I'll leave that one to Paul Reiser on Mad About You:

"Because it's naked and fun and I agree with both of them."

Well since there is research it must be the case

by Ben Reilly Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:57 pm

smelly_bandit wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:There's research that suggests that straight men who are intolerant of gay men have repressed homosexual urges that could be the source of their enmity:

"Homophobic men were the most sexually aroused by gay male sex acts." - http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-questions/201106/homophobic-men-most-aroused-gay-male-porn

As far as straight men liking lesbians, especially the fake kind depicted in porn, I'll leave that one to Paul Reiser on Mad About You:

"Because it's naked and fun and I agree with both of them."

Well since there is research it must be the case

We can do our own research here, smelly, just ask this question honestly. Does this:

Why do straight men have a problem with homosexual men but not gay women? Hot%20guys%20kissing3

Why do straight men have a problem with homosexual men but not gay women? Hot%20guys%20kissing3

... give you a semi? You can tell us, we won't judge you.

by Guest Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:06 pm

Here's a better test

Are you gay??

If you answered no then you're not gay

by Guest Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:24 pm

Its every mans dream...being the filling in a lezzie sarnie...... Embarassed

by eddie Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:40 pm

Actually Ben, out of interest, are you gay?
Never gave it much consideration before.

by Ben Reilly Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:49 pm

eddie wrote:Actually Ben, out of interest, are you gay?
Never gave it much consideration before.

No, I take up for gay people's rights, but I've always been into the chicas Smile

by eddie Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:53 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
eddie wrote:Actually Ben, out of interest, are you gay?
Never gave it much consideration before.

No, I take up for gay people's rights, but I've always been into the chicas

I thought so.
Wtf is a chica? Is that slang for Virgina? Basketball

by Ben Reilly Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:53 pm

Sorry, it's Spanish slang for pretty woman Smile

by Guest Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:16 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
smelly_bandit wrote:

Well since there is research it must be the case

We can do our own research here, smelly, just ask this question honestly. Does this:

... give you a semi? You can tell us, we won't judge you.

I expect latent gay attraction is the reason some people homophobic. It doesn't make sense as the only reason imo.

by Ben Reilly Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:23 pm

lovedust wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
smelly_bandit wrote:

Well since there is research it must be the case

We can do our own research here, smelly, just ask this question honestly. Does this:

... give you a semi? You can tell us, we won't judge you.

I expect latent gay attraction is the reason some people homophobic. It doesn't make sense as the only reason imo.

It's probably not -- I suspect that a lot of people are just really, really scared of people who don't look, think, talk and act exactly the same way they do. In fact, I can pretty much confirm that just by hanging out here for a while :::grouch:: :::grouch:: :::grouch::

by Guest Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:28 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
lovedust wrote:

I expect latent gay attraction is the reason some people homophobic. It doesn't make sense as the only reason imo.

It's probably not -- I suspect that a lot of people are just really, really scared of people who don't look, think, talk and act exactly the same way they do. In fact, I can pretty much confirm that just by hanging out here for a while :::grouch:: :::grouch:: :::grouch::

That's describes you perfectly

You constantly label and pigeon hole anyone who has a different opinion in race religion sex sexuality and creed than you do

In order that would be racist,islamophope,sexist,homophobe and bigot

You really should learn some tolerance Ben

by Ben Reilly Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:31 pm

smelly_bandit wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
lovedust wrote:

I expect latent gay attraction is the reason some people homophobic. It doesn't make sense as the only reason imo.

It's probably not -- I suspect that a lot of people are just really, really scared of people who don't look, think, talk and act exactly the same way they do. In fact, I can pretty much confirm that just by hanging out here for a while :::grouch:: :::grouch:: :::grouch::

That's describes you perfectly

You constantly label and pigeon hole anyone who has a different opinion in race religion sex sexuality and creed than you do

In order that would be racist,islamophope,sexist,homophobe and bigot

You really should learn some tolerance Ben

Ah, smelly, you misunderstand me. I'll talk shit all day long, but I don't care if you hate gay people or black people or whatever, as long as you leave them in peace when they leave you in peace. I do have a horrible intolerance of intolerance (and I suspect a touch of lactose intolerance), but I'm not going to go thought police on you ::D::

by Ben Reilly Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:32 pm

Oh, and I don't think I've ever heard of an islamaphope before -- is that like the Muslim pope?

by Guest Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:33 pm

its the ~~liberalist~~ progressive's way smelly...cut em some slack, they cant help it...Its their religion...

I mean...I dont agree with you that often, but apparantly you and I are now twins....... ::rfth:: ::rfth::

by Ben Reilly Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:34 pm

victorisnotamused wrote:its the ~~liberalist~~ progressive's way smelly...cut em some slack, they cant help it...Its their religion...

Yep, every weekend we congregate and sing Lady Gaga songs. You should come!

by Guest Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:52 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:its the ~~liberalist~~ progressive's way smelly...cut em some slack, they cant help it...Its their religion...

Yep, every weekend we congregate and sing Lady Gaga songs. You should come!

Tbf she wore a costume made out of meat and that is wronger than a wrong thing on a wrong day.

by Guest Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:53 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
victorisnotamused wrote:its the ~~liberalist~~ progressive's way smelly...cut em some slack, they cant help it...Its their religion...

Yep, every weekend we congregate and sing Lady Gaga songs. You should come!

I would have thought that given the "collective" mindset of the "progressive" this would have been nearer your anthem

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by Guest Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:54 pm

lovedust wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:

Yep, every weekend we congregate and sing Lady Gaga songs. You should come!

Tbf she wore a costume made out of meat and that is wronger than a wrong thing on a wrong day.

In fact ...you might say thats just.........wrong....

by Tommy Monk Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:29 pm

SIXHIRB

by Guest Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:46 pm

Would you care to explain?

by Guest Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:52 pm

SIX HIRB is Dennis Prager's acronym for the debate-ending names conservatives are called by liberals. If you disagree with the Left, you are one or all of the following -- Sexist, intolerant, xenophobic, homophobic, Islamophobic, racist, bigoted

by Tommy Monk Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:54 pm

Not 'liberals', 'progressives'!!!!

Smile

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:00 am

Tommy Monk wrote:Not 'liberals', 'progressives'!!!!

://?roflmao?/: ://?roflmao?/: ://?roflmao?/: ://?roflmao?/:

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:00 am

I'm certainly not 'liberal' and I haven't got a clue what you or Victor mean by 'progressive', but if it means making the world a better place, then I'm progressive.

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:03 am

better for who though?????

by Tommy Monk Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:07 am

You don't make things better by making them worse!

by groomsy Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:41 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:Well since there is research it must be the case

We can do our own research here, smelly, just ask this question honestly. Does this:

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by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:44 am

lovedust wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:

We can do our own research here, smelly, just ask this question honestly. Does this:

... give you a semi? You can tell us, we won't judge you.

I expect latent gay attraction is the reason some people homophobic. It doesn't make sense as the only reason imo.

Eww...Muscle Mary's! Laughing

by Ben Reilly Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:25 am

victorisnotamused wrote:SIX HIRB is Dennis Prager's acronym for the debate-ending names conservatives are called by liberals. If you disagree with the Left, you are one or all of the following -- Sexist, intolerant, xenophobic, homophobic, Islamophobic, racist, bigoted

Wow, you on the right sure are good at tribal warfare, I'll give you that.

by Lone Wolf Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:40 am

smelly_bandit wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
It's probably not -- I suspect that a lot of people are just really, really scared of people who don't look, think, talk and act exactly the same way they do. In fact, I can pretty much confirm that just by hanging out here for a while :::grouch:: :::grouch:: :::grouch::

...........You constantly label and pigeon hole anyone who has a different opinion in race religion sex sexuality and creed than you do

In order that would be racist, islamophope, sexist, homophobe and bigot....

YOU described yourself oh so perfectly there in that one simple sentence, smelly' !!!

IT IS said that the the first step in helping yourself to heal, is to admit that YOU have those problems that inflct you, your smelliness..

WELL done smelly' ! We're so proud of you today..
::d&f::

by Ben Reilly Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:51 am

Catman wrote:
lovedust wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:

We can do our own research here, smelly, just ask this question honestly. Does this:

... give you a semi? You can tell us, we won't judge you.

I expect latent gay attraction is the reason some people homophobic. It doesn't make sense as the only reason imo.

Eww...Muscle Mary's!

Hell, those guys might not even be gay -- maybe just in it for the paycheck!

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:54 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Catman wrote:

Eww...Muscle Mary's!

Hell, those guys might not even be gay -- maybe just in it for the paycheck!

There's been plenty of that going on for ages though!

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:57 am

Gay porn etc...It pays more and it's very hard to get into straight porn (apparently)

by Ben Reilly Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:59 am

Lone Wolf wrote:
smelly_bandit wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
It's probably not -- I suspect that a lot of people are just really, really scared of people who don't look, think, talk and act exactly the same way they do. In fact, I can pretty much confirm that just by hanging out here for a while :::grouch:: :::grouch:: :::grouch::

...........You constantly label and pigeon hole anyone who has a different opinion in race religion sex sexuality and creed than you do

In order that would be racist, islamophope, sexist, homophobe and bigot....

YOU described yourself oh so perfectly there in that one simple sentence, smelly' !!!

IT IS said that the the first step in helping yourself to heal, is to admit that YOU have those problems that inflct you, your smelliness..

WELL done smelly' ! We're so proud of you today..
::d&f::

At least he limits himself to pointing out that people call him a racist, sexist, homophobe, etc. when he makes racist, sexist, homophobic etc. statements.

Apparently now, every time someone on the left disagrees with someone on the right, we always always always call them racists, homophobes, sexists, etc.!

Fucking ninnies. I call them scaredy-pants wimps, too, but they won't acknowledge that!

Oh, and on my side is the Almighty God of Science Smile

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1342239/Brain-study-reveals-right-wing-conservatives-larger-primitive-amygdala.html

(It's from the Daily Maul, you can't contradict it righties!)

by Ben Reilly Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:59 am

Catman wrote:Gay porn etc...It pays more and it's very hard to get into straight porn (apparently)

Heh-heh, you said "it's very hard" Laughing

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:04 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Catman wrote:Gay porn etc...It pays more and it's very hard to get into straight porn (apparently)

Heh-heh, you said "it's very hard"

Tis...What i've heard, when the models have been interviewed! Laughing

by Ben Reilly Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:32 am

Catman wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:
Catman wrote:Gay porn etc...It pays more and it's very hard to get into straight porn (apparently)

Heh-heh, you said "it's very hard"

Tis...What i've heard, when the models have been interviewed!

Actually I've heard the same thing ::D::

Not too great a job either!

by Guest Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:48 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Catman wrote:

Tis...What i've heard, when the models have been interviewed!

Actually I've heard the same thing ::D::

Not too great a job either!

.....Anything to earn a crust, i would suppose...Certainly, i wouldn't have had the confidence to do that, when i was young....But i wouldn't have held the situation that some people get in, where they have the confidence, and just get on with it.

....I had a convo with Doug last night, we watch porn together, or rather he looks to see what i'm watching on my laptop from time to time ::D:: ...He said 'why didn't you ever do it'....I said because i always had another source of money, and i couldn't have done it anyway, because i've always been very reserved! Razz

by veya_victaous Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:02 pm

LOLZ @ Catmans new avatar cat

::rambo::

@OP
regarding lesbians, biologically I think it is because they cant breed by themselves so not actually a threat, possibly a good thing evolutionary (from guy perspective) as you might get to impregnate 2 women then bugger off and your offspring would still have a pair of adult carers. Socially, yeah probably aesthetics Wink

In reality Gay men are actually easier to get along with than lesbians Rolling Eyes

by Fluffyx Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:33 am

Ben_Reilly wrote:There's research that suggests that straight men who are intolerant of gay men have repressed homosexual urges that could be the source of their enmity:

"Homophobic men were the most sexually aroused by gay male sex acts." - http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-questions/201106/homophobic-men-most-aroused-gay-male-porn

As far as straight men liking lesbians, especially the fake kind depicted in porn, I'll leave that one to Paul Reiser on Mad About You:

"Because it's naked and fun and I agree with both of them."

Lol

I think also it is difficult for older men to accept gay people as its a generation thing,my grandfather for example just couldn't get along with it but he didn't like the concept of gay women either.

Since I have been posting on forums I have encountered a few homophobic posters (not on this forum i hasten to add!!) and I don't think they are secretly gay.

I think they genuinely loathe gay men and I find that a pretty disgusting attitude but wanted to try and understand the mentality.

by Fluffyx Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:35 am

veya_victaous wrote:LOLZ @ Catmans new avatar   ::rambo::

@OP
regarding lesbians, biologically I think it is because they cant breed by themselves so not actually a threat, possibly a good thing evolutionary (from guy perspective) as you might get to impregnate 2 women then bugger off and your offspring would still have a pair of adult carers. Socially, yeah probably aesthetics

In reality Gay men are actually easier to get along with than lesbians

That makes sense from a biological point of view.

I'm not sure about your last sentence...! Wink

by Guest Fri Mar 28, 2014 1:58 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:There's research that suggests that straight men who are intolerant of gay men have repressed homosexual urges that could be the source of their enmity:

"Homophobic men were the most sexually aroused by gay male sex acts." - http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-questions/201106/homophobic-men-most-aroused-gay-male-porn

As far as straight men liking lesbians, especially the fake kind depicted in porn, I'll leave that one to Paul Reiser on Mad About You:

"Because it's naked and fun and I agree with both of them."

rubbish unless this means also that those who hate Christians are really seeking and desire God .

by Guest Fri Mar 28, 2014 2:02 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:There's research that suggests that straight men who are intolerant of gay men have repressed homosexual urges that could be the source of their enmity:

"Homophobic men were the most sexually aroused by gay male sex acts." - http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-questions/201106/homophobic-men-most-aroused-gay-male-porn

As far as straight men liking lesbians, especially the fake kind depicted in porn, I'll leave that one to Paul Reiser on Mad About You:

"Because it's naked and fun and I agree with both of them."

And Hitler loved the Jews.

by Guest Fri Mar 28, 2014 2:03 pm

VOD(original) wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:There's research that suggests that straight men who are intolerant of gay men have repressed homosexual urges that could be the source of their enmity:

"Homophobic men were the most sexually aroused by gay male sex acts." - http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-questions/201106/homophobic-men-most-aroused-gay-male-porn

As far as straight men liking lesbians, especially the fake kind depicted in porn, I'll leave that one to Paul Reiser on Mad About You:

"Because it's naked and fun and I agree with both of them."

rubbish unless this means also that those who hate Christians are really seeking and desire God .

lol its wishful thinking on the part of the tiny minority that they think the vast majority of normal people want to be gay..lol