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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:37 pm

Gays should be tortured and hanged, says Iranian minister meeting British MPs

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:57 pm

islam is just so terrible..

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Post by Ben Reilly Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:07 pm

I guess no news is too old if it makes Muslims look bad, eh HF?
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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:12 pm

I guess its also very sad that there are people who believe this Ben eh ?

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Post by Ben Reilly Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:28 pm

VOD(original) wrote:I guess its also very sad that there are people who believe this Ben eh ?

Of course it is, thinking gay people should be hung is barbaric. But I don't see why you two have to keep digging up stuff from the last decade and presenting it as news to try to make your point.
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VOD(original) wrote:I guess its also very sad that there are people who believe this Ben eh ?

Of course it is, thinking gay people should be hung is barbaric. But I don't see why you two have to keep digging up stuff from the last decade and presenting it as news to try to make your point.

this was from todays paper...it shows the islamic view has not changed...

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Post by Ben Reilly Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:39 pm

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VOD(original) wrote:I guess its also very sad that there are people who believe this Ben eh ?

Of course it is, thinking gay people should be hung is barbaric. But I don't see why you two have to keep digging up stuff from the last decade and presenting it as news to try to make your point.

this was from todays paper

Why do you lie like that? That article was published more than six years ago!
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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:42 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

this was from todays paper

Why do you lie like that? That article was published more than six years ago!

how odd the link says today's date... must be me...

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Post by Ben Reilly Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:49 pm

OK, let me spell it out for you. In just the third paragraph, the article says:

President Ahmadinejad, questioned by students in New York two months ago about the executions, dodged the issue by suggesting that there were no gays in his country.

That was my first clue that this was a very old article, because I'manutjob didn't say Iran has no gay people "two months ago," he said it years ago. It was pretty big news: http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3642673

Then I looked at the rest of the article and Googled a few phrases. Predictably, I found dozens of websites (many that cater to right-wingers) linking to that article, all of which included the day of the post:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1924879/posts

http://www.refugeforums.com/refuge/archive/index.php/t-575211.html

http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/author/doctorbulldog/page/593/
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Godisgoodallthetime wrote:Gays should be tortured and hanged, says Iranian minister meeting British MPs

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...what a cock, " people" like him need putting down, evil fcuker, let him receive the blonde tints to the puss.

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:55 pm

wonder why the link is to today's date then..

do you think islamic feelings about torturing and hanging gays has changed...

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Post by Ben Reilly Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:59 pm

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:wonder why the link is to today's date then..

do you think islamic feelings about torturing and hanging gays has changed...

I think your question is simplistic (no big surprise). I believe there are Muslims who believe the teachings of Islam require them to kill gay people and Muslims who don't believe that; just as there are Christians with the same mindset:

Ron Paul has developed a “live and let live” approach to same-sex marriage and gay rights on the campaign trail, but his efforts to attract Evangelical voters ahead of the Jan. 3 Iowa caucuses have revealed, a darker social conservative side to the libertarian Republican from Texas. For instance, earlier this week, the Paul campaign touted the endorsement of Reverend Phillip Kayser, pastor of Dominion Covenant Church in Omaha, Nebraska, for the “enlightening statements he makes on how Ron Paul’s approach to government is consistent with Christian beliefs.” Kayser has previously argued that the Bible justifies capital punishment against gay people — and still stands by this belief:

“Difficulty in implementing Biblical law does not make non-Biblical penology just,” he argued. “But as we have seen, while many homosexuals would be executed, the threat of capital punishment can be restorative. Biblical law would recognize as a matter of justice that even if this law could be enforced today, homosexuals could not be prosecuted for something that was done before.”

Reached by phone, Kayser confirmed to TPM that he believed in reinstating Biblical punishments for homosexuals — including the death penalty — even if he didn’t see much hope for it happening anytime soon. While he said he and Paul disagree on gay rights, noting that Paul recently voted for repealing Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, he supported the campaign because he believed Paul’s federalist take on the Constitution would allow states more latitude to implement fundamentalist law. Especially since under Kayser’s own interpretation of the Constitution there is no separation of Church and State.

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/12/29/395688/paul-campaign-touts-endorsement-of-preacher-who-advocates-death-penalty-for-gays/

... and Christians who don't believe in the death penalty for gay people.


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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:00 pm

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:wonder why the link is to today's date then..

do you think islamic feelings about torturing and hanging gays has changed...


Depends which country and which religious leaders etc, that arse wipe Allatoyah and Mujineeidad ...no, they are oppressing and brainwashing people, many people in Iran and other Islamic countries are gay...but dare not show it...
Even Saudi..less oppressive than Iran are still behind the times, I think they are bike and evil...

I would sooner have 10 million gay people in this country than just one of that oppressive evil type.

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:04 pm

Joy Division wrote:
Godisgoodallthetime wrote:wonder why the link is to today's date then..

do you think islamic feelings about torturing and hanging gays has changed...


Depends which country and which religious leaders etc, that arse wipe Allatoyah and Mujineeidad ...no, they are oppressing and brainwashing people, many people in Iran and other Islamic countries are gay...but dare not show it...
Even Saudi..less oppressive than Iran are still behind the times, I think they are bike and evil...

I would sooner have 10 million gay people in this country than just one of that oppressive evil type.

it does say in the report if they are gay behind closed doors it is ok but if they are overtly gay there will be problems, so perhaps there is some "slack" in the way they deal with gays..

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:10 pm

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:
Joy Division wrote:


Depends which country and which religious leaders etc, that arse wipe Allatoyah and Mujineeidad ...no, they are oppressing and brainwashing people, many people in Iran and other Islamic countries are gay...but dare not show it...
Even Saudi..less oppressive than Iran are still behind the times, I think they are bike and evil...

I would sooner have 10 million gay people in this country than just one of that oppressive evil type.

it does say in the report if they are gay behind closed doors it is ok but if they are overtly gay there will be problems, so perhaps there is some "slack" in the way they deal with gays..



...what do you think Favva?...in your own honest words, do you think it is a sin for people to be gay?, or should every country in the world allow people to be freely gay?

Do you think being gay should be punishable ?

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:17 pm

Joy Division wrote:
Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

it does say in the report if they are gay behind closed doors it is ok but if they are overtly gay there will be problems, so perhaps there is some "slack" in the way they deal with gays..



...what do you think Favva?...in your  own honest words, do you think it is a sin for people to be gay?, or should every country in the world allow people to be freely gay?

Do you think being gay should be punishable ?

by the bible it is a sin yes, should it be punishable by our laws, no not at all....

should people be allowed to be freely gay, yes...

should it be forced to be accepted, no...

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:18 pm

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...what do you think Favva?...in your  own honest words, do you think it is a sin for people to be gay?, or should every country in the world allow people to be freely gay?

Do you think being gay should be punishable ?

by the bible it is a sin yes, should it be punishable by our laws, no not at all....

should people be allowed to be freely gay, yes...

should it be forced to be accepted, no...


Fair enough Favva, but who is forcing gayness onto anyone else?


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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:19 pm

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:
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...what do you think Favva?...in your  own honest words, do you think it is a sin for people to be gay?, or should every country in the world allow people to be freely gay?

Do you think being gay should be punishable ?

by the bible it is a sin yes, should it be punishable by our laws, no not at all....

should people be allowed to be freely gay, yes...

should it be forced to be accepted, no...


Does your bible say that being gay is as much or the same of a sin as a child murderer Favva?

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:21 pm

Joy Division wrote:
Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

by the bible it is a sin yes, should it be punishable by our laws, no not at all....

should people be allowed to be freely gay, yes...

should it be forced to be accepted, no...


Does your bible say that being gay is as much or the same of a sin as a child murderer Favva?

sin is sin to God it separates us from God...

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:29 pm

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:
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Does your bible say that being gay is as much or the same of a sin as a child murderer Favva?

sin is sin to God it separates us from God...


...so a mass child killer' sin is equal to the sin of a person being gay?

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:32 pm

Joy Division wrote:
Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

sin is sin to God it separates us from God...


...so a mass child killer' sin is equal to the sin of a person being gay?

there are no degrees of sin...not to God...we all fall short of the glory of God.

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:38 pm

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:
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...so a mass child killer' sin is equal to the sin of a person being gay?

there are no degrees of sin...not to God...we all fall short of the glory of God.


...and that is partly why this world is in the mess it is, too quick to tell evil child killers...' Oh it's ok , repent your sins and all will be well,you shall be forgiven'...

It's fucking bollocks and as good as a license to kill and excuse killing.

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:39 pm

Joy Division wrote:
Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

there are no degrees of sin...not to God...we all fall short of the glory of God.


...and that is partly why this world is in the mess it is, too quick to tell evil child killers...' Oh it's ok , repent your sins and all will be well,you shall be forgiven'...

It's fucking bollocks and as good as a license to kill and excuse killing.

so you think we have killers because they can do it then be forgiven by God...

 lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! 

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:49 pm

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:
Joy Division wrote:


...and that is partly why this world is in the mess it is, too quick to tell evil child killers...' Oh it's ok , repent your sins and all will be well,you shall be forgiven'...

It's fucking bollocks and as good as a license to kill and excuse killing.

so you think we have killers because they can do it then be forgiven by God...

 lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! 


That's the white you god people preach is it not?, and it's bollocks...and it only makes killers feel 'better' as they have repented theory sins...

Nobody will go to any heaven or hell...show me this God you speak of?, he's all in your mind isn't he? Laughing 


He is there in your mind to justify any bad behavior.

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:51 pm

Joy Division wrote:
Godisgoodallthetime wrote:

so you think we have killers because they can do it then be forgiven by God...

 lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! 


That's the white you god people preach is it not?, and it's bollocks...and it only makes killers feel 'better' as they have repented theory sins...

Nobody will go to any heaven or hell...show me this God you speak of?, he's all in your mind isn't he? Laughing 


He is there in your mind to justify any bad behavior.

who's this white God.... lol! lol! 


so you still think murderers kill because they can be forgiven... lol! 

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:21 pm

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:
Joy Division wrote:


That's the white you god people preach is it not?, and it's bollocks...and it only makes killers feel 'better' as they have repented theory sins...

Nobody will go to any heaven or hell...show me this God you speak of?, he's all in your mind isn't he? Laughing 


He is there in your mind to justify any bad behavior.

who's this white God.... lol! lol! 


so you still think murderers kill because they can be forgiven... lol! 


Typo error with the word white!...

Killers in jail often pretend to have become good citizens to qualify for parole, and telling them as long as they believe in God and will be forgiven only encourages them to do so again and justifies their actions , so they think.

If someone murdered your kid( heaven forbid) I doubt you would be so forgiving just because they said they believed in God after the murder, it's a bollocks excuse to justify murder.

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We earlier spoke of what your God classed as a sin Favva, you said God sees being gay as a sin...

Do YOU see being gay as a sin Favva?


..also Favva...a question I asked you earlier,,you never got around to answering...

You said gayness was being forced upon people..but who by?

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:47 pm

Joy Division wrote:We earlier spoke of what your God classed as a sin Favva, you said God sees being gay as a sin...

Do YOU see being gay as a sin Favva?


..also Favva...a question I asked you earlier,,you never got around to answering...

You said gayness was being forced upon people..but who by?

i certainly don't see it as the norm, but it is sin to God so I would be wrong not to point that out to people...

it is being forced as normal and acceptable, to me that is wrong... Smile 

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Post by Eilzel Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:51 pm

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:
Joy Division wrote:We earlier spoke of what your God classed as a sin Favva, you said God sees being gay as a sin...

Do YOU see being gay as a sin Favva?


..also Favva...a question I asked you earlier,,you never got around to answering...

You said gayness was being forced upon people..but who by?

i certainly don't see it as the norm, but it is sin to God so I would be wrong not to point that out to people...

it is being forced as normal and acceptable, to me that is wrong... Smile 

I think it is wrong to point out to gay people that being gay is wrong- you see where our views may conflict here? I don't interfere telling you how you should live your life, so you can piss off telling me how to live mine if it's all the same  Smile 

And it isn't being forced as anything; kids are now simply told there is nothing wrong with them if they are gay- which there isn't.
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Post by Guest Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:09 pm

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:
Joy Division wrote:We earlier spoke of what your God classed as a sin Favva, you said God sees being gay as a sin...

Do YOU see being gay as a sin Favva?


..also Favva...a question I asked you earlier,,you never got around to answering...

You said gayness was being forced upon people..but who by?

i certainly don't see it as the norm, but it is sin to God so I would be wrong not to point that out to people...

it is being forced as normal and acceptable, to me that is wrong... Smile 

Thanks for your view Favva, but wouldn't you say it's wrong when people of God encroache on others by way of visiting theor homes and harassing them?

..surely you wouldn't like me to come round your house and nip your head by telling you how good I think Soft Cell, The Cure, The Smiths amd Depeche Mode etc were?

Some people who worship God annoy folk at their own home Favva, wouldn't you say that is trying to force folk in what to believe?

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