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Post by Guest Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:04 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2580636/Read-stories-secret-courts-imprison-elderly-care-homes-against-weep.html

Is it really such a difficult concept for us to learn that if something is allowed to be done in secret it will end up abusing and harming.

If you are not crying reading those stories of people ripped from their families and friends then you cannot have a heart.

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Post by Guest Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:14 am

That's awful, truly wicked,keeping a poor bloke from seeing his wife Sad


I once remember though Irn making a comment saying to the effect of ...put folk in care homes in prison and convicts in a care home,

That really stayed with me and I think it have some others something to think about too.

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Post by Guest Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:19 am

my goodness, how can stuff like this go on, we like to consider ourselves enlightened, civilised and at a drop of a hat you can be taken away and forcibly locked up, allegedly for your own good.

this is the same sort of thing that happens when people are forced in to treatments they do not want..

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Post by Guest Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:27 am

Godisgoodallthetime wrote:my goodness, how can stuff like this go on, we like to consider ourselves enlightened, civilised and at a drop of a hat you can be taken away and forcibly locked up, allegedly for your own good.

this is the same sort of thing that happens when people are forced in to treatments they do not want..

It has got nothing to do with treatments

It happens because the system allowed secrecy - if the court of protection had to act in public view these abuses would not happen because everyone would be able to see where people were being found incapable when that was not the case.

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Post by Guest Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:32 am

sphinx wrote:
Godisgoodallthetime wrote:my goodness, how can stuff like this go on, we like to consider ourselves enlightened, civilised and at a drop of a hat you can be taken away and forcibly locked up, allegedly for your own good.

this is the same sort of thing that happens when people are forced in to treatments they do not want..

It has got nothing to do with treatments

It happens because the system allowed secrecy - if the court of protection had to act in public view these abuses would not happen because everyone would be able to see where people were being found incapable when that was not the case.

It does in a way, because by some seemingly good and legal decision, peoples rights are taken away, it all seems for the good of the individual yet in reality the individual and their rights are trampled..

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Post by Guest Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:36 am

sphinx wrote:
Godisgoodallthetime wrote:my goodness, how can stuff like this go on, we like to consider ourselves enlightened, civilised and at a drop of a hat you can be taken away and forcibly locked up, allegedly for your own good.

this is the same sort of thing that happens when people are forced in to treatments they do not want..

It has got nothing to do with treatments

It happens because the system allowed secrecy - if the court of protection had to act in public view these abuses would not happen because everyone would be able to see where people were being found incapable when that was not the case.

Ignore the troll Sphinx.

The Courts of Protection and the Family Courts should not be held in secret. Their decisions can make for untold misery and they answer to no-one.

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Post by Guest Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:43 am

Sassy wrote:
sphinx wrote:

It has got nothing to do with treatments

It happens because the system allowed secrecy - if the court of protection had to act in public view these abuses would not happen because everyone would be able to see where people were being found incapable when that was not the case.

Ignore the troll Sphinx.

The Courts of Protection and the Family Courts should not be held in secret.   Their decisions can make for untold misery and they answer to no-one.  

It is disgraceful that people have put in prison for taking their parents away from something hurting them - that people have been arrested for taking their parent for a day out, that a world class expert is rejected in favour of what seems little more than a lackey - the list goes on.

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Post by Guest Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:48 am

sphinx wrote:
Sassy wrote:

Ignore the troll Sphinx.

The Courts of Protection and the Family Courts should not be held in secret.   Their decisions can make for untold misery and they answer to no-one.  

It is disgraceful that people have put in prison for taking their parents away from something hurting them - that people have been arrested for taking their parent for a day out, that a world class expert is rejected in favour of what seems little more than a lackey - the list goes on.

of course it is disgraceful but more and more decisions are being made on behalf of people that go against the individual rights, this is where it is all ultimately heading..

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Post by Guest Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:54 am

sphinx wrote:
Sassy wrote:

Ignore the troll Sphinx.

The Courts of Protection and the Family Courts should not be held in secret.   Their decisions can make for untold misery and they answer to no-one.  

It is disgraceful that people have put in prison for taking their parents away from something hurting them - that people have been arrested for taking their parent for a day out, that a world class expert is rejected in favour of what seems little more than a lackey - the list goes on.

totally agree with you sphinx

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