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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:00 pm




A fireball meteor - seen breaking up in the skies by witnesses across the UK last night - has landed in Gloucestershire, it has been confirmed.

The huge space object is understood to have landed somewhere between Swindon Village and Bourton-on-the-Hill, according to the UK Meteor Network.

This includes Bishop’s Cleeve, Winchcombe, Prestbury, Stanway and Temple Guiting.

Residents of these areas are being urged to get in touch with the UK Meteor Network or National History Museum if they find any fragments of the flying object.

But the Network is reminding people not to travel to this area to find fragments, due to lockdown restrictions.

It comes after people across the UK captured the moment the meteor broke up in the skies last night.



https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/gloucester-news/fireball-meteor-crash-lands-gloucestershire-5057522
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Post by Maddog Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:23 am

Yall are still locked down? Can't go wandering around looking for alien life forms that are probably plotting your demise whilst (I never use that word, but I wanted to sound a little British for grins) you hide in your homes?
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Post by Syl Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:58 am

We are not hiding, we (the majority) are trying to be sensible, and the rapidly falling rate of infections and deaths since the vaccination programme started is proof that (fingers crossed) it's paying dividends.

Some people who are very vulnerable are advised to shield again, but they are the only ones who should be housebound.
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Post by Maddog Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:09 pm

Syl wrote:We are not hiding, we (the majority) are trying to be sensible, and the rapidly falling rate of infections and deaths since the vaccination programme started is proof that (fingers crossed) it's paying dividends.

Some people who are very vulnerable are advised to shield again, but they are the only ones who should be housebound.

Our rates are falling rapidly too.

Everyone's rates are falling rapidly.

Maybe hiding was the wrong word. But I still can't fathom the amount of restrictions that have been placed upon you with nothing to really show for it.

Either the restrictions don't work or your folks aren't following them very well.
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Post by Syl Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:18 pm

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:We are not hiding, we (the majority) are trying to be sensible, and the rapidly falling rate of infections and deaths since the vaccination programme started is proof that (fingers crossed) it's paying dividends.

Some people who are very vulnerable are advised to shield again, but they are the only ones who should be housebound.

Our rates are falling rapidly too.  

Everyone's rates are falling rapidly.  

Maybe hiding was the wrong word.  But I still can't fathom the amount of restrictions that have been placed upon you with nothing to really show for it.  

Either the restrictions don't work or your folks aren't following them very well.  

The restrictions obviously work, see how the rates soared over Christmas when they were relaxed.

I do believe the majority are trying to follow the rules, but the minority don't. Every week hundreds if not thousands of large lllegal gatherings are being broken up by police, and every shop I go in I can guarantee a minority of people will not be wearing a mask or social distancing.
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Post by Maddog Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:24 pm

Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:

Our rates are falling rapidly too.  

Everyone's rates are falling rapidly.  

Maybe hiding was the wrong word.  But I still can't fathom the amount of restrictions that have been placed upon you with nothing to really show for it.  

Either the restrictions don't work or your folks aren't following them very well.  

The restrictions obviously work, see how the rates soared over Christmas when they were relaxed.

I do believe the majority are trying to follow the rules, but the minority don't. Every week hundreds if not thousands of large lllegal gatherings are being broken up by police, and every shop I go in I can guarantee a minority of people will not be wearing a mask or social distancing.

What's working are the vaccines and herd immunity.  

And masks and some social distancing.  

Your decreases in infections and restrictions are correlational not causational.
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Post by Syl Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:28 pm

Can you use less confusing words please? You are beginning to sound like Quill. Razz
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Post by Maddog Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:32 pm

Syl wrote:Can you use less confusing words please? Razz

Ha.

You know the difference between correlation and causation.

The cause of the rapid decrease in infections around the world are vaccines and herd immunity. Thats the one constant.

Other restrictions in a few areas of the planet are correlational with the drop. Another words the drop would have happened anyway as evidenced by the drop in areas without such draconian restrictions.
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Post by Syl Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:45 pm

Vaccination far more than herd immunity has enabled the global rate in infections to drop.

The restrictions and social distancing have managed to control the newer variants which were far more contagious than the original strain.

If yet another variant comes along (the Brazil one being the latest) which spreads yet faster and manages to get around the present vaccines, dont you think restrictions and social distancing will be the only way to control the spread then? Just as those measures were the way we managed at the start of the pandemic.
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Post by Maddog Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:49 pm

Syl wrote:Vaccination far more than herd immunity has enabled the global rate in infections to drop.

The restrictions and social distancing have managed to control the newer variants which were far more contagious than the original strain.

If yet another variant  comes along (the Brazil one being the latest)  which spreads yet faster and manages to get around the present vaccines, dont you think restrictions and social distancing will be the only way to control the spread then? Just as those measures were the way we managed at the start of the pandemic.


Maybe. If we see spikes in infections that would be true.

But that's not happening. Even with these new variants.

You're not outperforming anyone with your restrictions. If you were then you could justify them.
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Post by Syl Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:58 pm

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:Vaccination far more than herd immunity has enabled the global rate in infections to drop.

The restrictions and social distancing have managed to control the newer variants which were far more contagious than the original strain.

If yet another variant  comes along (the Brazil one being the latest)  which spreads yet faster and manages to get around the present vaccines, dont you think restrictions and social distancing will be the only way to control the spread then? Just as those measures were the way we managed at the start of the pandemic.


Maybe.  If we see spikes in infections that would be true.

But that's not happening. Even with these new variants.

You're not outperforming anyone with your restrictions. If you were then you could justify them.


Maybe, maybe not. Each country is different, obviously the more highly populated an area is the more the infections/deaths happen.
We have incredibly crowded cities and towns, dont forget we are an island, not a huge bloody desert land like a lot of the US.

The problem for us with only putting the restrictions in certain areas and not in others were that people travelled from one zone/tier to the next,,,so that didn't work.

Lifting the restrictions completely was a disaster, as the huge spike in January proved after the Christmas relaxation.
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Post by Maddog Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:03 pm

Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:


Maybe.  If we see spikes in infections that would be true.

But that's not happening. Even with these new variants.

You're not outperforming anyone with your restrictions. If you were then you could justify them.


Maybe, maybe not. Each country is different, obviously the more highly populated an area is the more the infections/deaths happen.
We have incredibly crowded cities and towns, dont forget we are an island, not a huge bloody desert land like a lot of the US.

The problem for us with only putting the restrictions in certain areas and not in others were that people travelled from one zone/tier to the next,,,so that didn't work.

Lifting the restrictions completely was a disaster, as the huge spike in January proved after the Christmas relaxation.

I live in a county with a population of 1,999,999, it was 2 million but Ben left.

Anyway, our densely populated sliver of heaven has seen a rapid decrease in numbers without changing a thing since the last surge.
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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:50 pm




Restrictions weren't relaxed over Christmas, were they Syl?


I thought they were going to be relaxed, but this didn't happen because there was already a rise in case numbers and hospital admissions, so this proposed relaxation was abandoned...?


And yes Maddog, I agree, the more people who get it/had it and develop future resistance/immunity, plus the roll out of vaccines to the most vulnerable groups who account for almost all of the deaths so far, have been the major contributor of the decline in cases and hospital admissions and deaths.


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Post by gelico Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:55 pm

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:


Maybe, maybe not. Each country is different, obviously the more highly populated an area is the more the infections/deaths happen.
We have incredibly crowded cities and towns, dont forget we are an island, not a huge bloody desert land like a lot of the US.

The problem for us with only putting the restrictions in certain areas and not in others were that people travelled from one zone/tier to the next,,,so that didn't work.

Lifting the restrictions completely was a disaster, as the huge spike in January proved after the Christmas relaxation.

I live in a county with a population of 1,999,999, it was 2 million but Ben left.  


lol!

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Post by Original Quill Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:14 pm

Syl wrote:We have incredibly crowded cities and towns, dont forget we are an island, not a huge bloody desert land like a lot of the US.

I disagree. The only desert in the US is from Colorado west. East of the Rockies it's a beautiful watershed bowl, growing all kind of crops, industry and transportation. It's a living cornucopia.

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Post by Maddog Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:46 pm

gelico wrote:
Maddog wrote:

I live in a county with a population of 1,999,999, it was 2 million but Ben left.  


lol!

If Quills daughters leaves it will be one less.

But why would she? It's lovely here.
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Post by Syl Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:24 am

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:


Maybe, maybe not. Each country is different, obviously the more highly populated an area is the more the infections/deaths happen.
We have incredibly crowded cities and towns, dont forget we are an island, not a huge bloody desert land like a lot of the US.

The problem for us with only putting the restrictions in certain areas and not in others were that people travelled from one zone/tier to the next,,,so that didn't work.

Lifting the restrictions completely was a disaster, as the huge spike in January proved after the Christmas relaxation.

I live in a county with a population of 1,999,999, it was 2 million but Ben left.  

Anyway, our densely populated sliver of heaven has seen a rapid decrease in numbers without changing a thing since the last surge.  
Manchester and Birmingham have close to 3 million each, London has over 9 million.

Your country is 40 times bigger than the whole of the UK, we are a tiny island in comparison.
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Post by Syl Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:29 am

Tommy Monk wrote:


Restrictions weren't relaxed over Christmas, were they Syl?


I thought they were going to be relaxed, but this didn't happen because there was already a rise in case numbers and hospital admissions, so this proposed relaxation was abandoned...?


And yes Maddog, I agree, the more people who get it/had it and develop future resistance/immunity, plus the roll out of vaccines to the most vulnerable groups who account for almost all of the deaths so far, have been the major contributor of the decline in cases and hospital admissions and deaths.


Yes they were relaxed. Up to three families could spend the day together, they could also travel around to meet up.
Only tier 4 areas were told not to travel out of their area.
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Post by Tommy Monk Wed Mar 03, 2021 1:44 am




Not here... Christmas was cancelled here.


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Post by Maddog Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:20 am

Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:

I live in a county with a population of 1,999,999, it was 2 million but Ben left.  

Anyway, our densely populated sliver of heaven has seen a rapid decrease in numbers without changing a thing since the last surge.  
Manchester and Birmingham have close to 3 million each, London has over 9 million.

Your country is 40 times bigger than the whole of the UK, we are a tiny island in comparison.

I get that.

That's why I'm not comparing your country to the state of Wyoming.

Tarrant County is an urban area, not a desert.
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Post by Syl Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:14 pm

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Manchester and Birmingham have close to 3 million each, London has over 9 million.

Your country is 40 times bigger than the whole of the UK, we are a tiny island in comparison.

I get that.

That's why I'm not comparing your country to the state of Wyoming.

Tarrant County is an urban area, not a desert.

That's why I said earlier each country has to handle this pandemic differently.

I don't pretend we have always had it right, we have a high death and infection rate, and there are some obvious reasons for that.

Some people think we have been too cautious, others not cautious enough....either way, I am sure the government here has done their best in the circumstances.
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