So if you were Oprah...

Original Quill wrote:At a loss for word, eh?

Maddog wrote:

gelico wrote:


lolol

reality check:

Harry was always the darling of the family.  Clearly not overly bright in the academia field but so what.  He was always the rebel, the party lad, the one getting drunk surrounded by a bevy of beauties.  He was spoilt and indulged by his family.  Adored by everyone to the point where excuses were being made for his somewhat outlandish behaviour on occasions.

For some reason you seem desperate to see him as the lonely, bastard outcast of the family.  Abused and unloved until he met Saint Meghan.

you have such a strange little mind Quill

it doth amuse me at times

Doesn't he?

Harry's problems started with Meghan. No idea where Quill's started.  

gelico wrote:

Original Quill wrote:



We don't know what went on in the inner circle, but my guess is that he was the red-headed stepchild ("a child who is obviously not your own, a child who is treated worse than other children in the family").  https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=red%20headed%20stepchild  

Since no one else will, Meghan is taking on the problem.  I see what she sees.  

lolol

reality check:

Harry was always the darling of the family.  Clearly not overly bright in the academia field but so what.  He was always the rebel, the party lad, the one getting drunk surrounded by a bevy of beauties.  He was spoilt and indulged by his family.  Adored by everyone to the point where excuses were being made for his somewhat outlandish behaviour on occasions.

For some reason you seem desperate to see him as the lonely, bastard outcast of the family.  Abused and unloved until he met Saint Meghan.

you have such a strange little mind Quill

it doth amuse me at times

gelico wrote:

can't remember where this originally came from but something along the lines of,,,


''what is it that first attracted you to the millionaire Prince Harry?''

Syl wrote:

gelico wrote:

can't remember where this originally came from but something along the lines of,,,


''what is it that first attracted you to the millionaire Prince Harry?''

55 seconds in...

gelico wrote:


Oprah must be feeling a tad overwhelmed right now

This interview has already had to be edited once due to loss of UK patronages.

Rumour has it that Oprah is now pissed of with Harry for the James Corden video.  

And now, a whole bunch of bullying allegations, some scandal involving earrings and meanwhile Philip seems to be hovering between this life and the next.

who thinks this might be pulled?

Syl wrote:I have seen a couple of excerpts from the Corden interview.
Have to say, he has played a blinder.

Oprah and her mates have been bragging for weeks about it being the best interview she has ever done....and the little fat actor from the UK has overshadowed her.

gelico wrote:

Syl wrote:I have seen a couple of excerpts from the Corden interview.
Have to say, he has played a blinder.

Oprah and her mates have been bragging for weeks about it being the best interview she has ever done....and the little fat actor from the UK has overshadowed her.

apart from feeling a bit disappointed at Harrys lack of direction re future plans i thought the whole thing was quite funny and sweet.

Harry is definitely at his best when he's just goofing about and having fun


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oxlCKMlpZw&t=731s

Original Quill wrote:That's his persona...kinda like Mel Gibson.

eddie wrote:Knowing Oprah she will be sickeningly sweet and crawl up their arses.

She should’ve stuck to acting.

gelico wrote:

Syl wrote:I have seen a couple of excerpts from the Corden interview.
Have to say, he has played a blinder.

Oprah and her mates have been bragging for weeks about it being the best interview she has ever done....and the little fat actor from the UK has overshadowed her.

apart from feeling a bit disappointed at Harrys lack of direction re future plans i thought the whole thing was quite funny and sweet.

Harry is definitely at his best when he's just goofing about and having fun


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oxlCKMlpZw&t=731s

Maddog wrote:

gelico wrote:


lolol

reality check:

Harry was always the darling of the family.  Clearly not overly bright in the academia field but so what.  He was always the rebel, the party lad, the one getting drunk surrounded by a bevy of beauties.  He was spoilt and indulged by his family.  Adored by everyone to the point where excuses were being made for his somewhat outlandish behaviour on occasions.

For some reason you seem desperate to see him as the lonely, bastard outcast of the family.  Abused and unloved until he met Saint Meghan.

you have such a strange little mind Quill

it doth amuse me at times

Doesn't he?


Harry's problems started with Meghan. No idea where Quill's started.  

Syl wrote:

gelico wrote:

can't remember where this originally came from but something along the lines of,,,


''what is it that first attracted you to the millionaire Prince Harry?''

55 seconds in...

JulesV wrote:

Syl wrote:
55 seconds in...

If Meghan is called a gold digger then that description applies to all royal brides  too.
They all rise steeply up the wealth and social ladder instantly when they marry into the royal family.

The late queen mother did not have a paid job when she wed a royal. Neither did Camilla. Nor Kate Middleton.
(Prince Phillip was literally penniless when he married into the family.)
At least Meghan had a secure, well paid job when she got engaged - she had a few millions in the bank.

Syl wrote:

JulesV wrote:

If Meghan is called a gold digger then that description applies to all royal brides  too.
They all rise steeply up the wealth and social ladder instantly when they marry into the royal family.

The late queen mother did not have a paid job when she wed a royal. Neither did Camilla. Nor Kate Middleton.
(Prince Phillip was literally penniless when he married into the family.)
At least Meghan had a secure, well paid job when she got engaged - she had a few millions in the bank.

I don't know whether she married for money, fame, love, or to further her political ambitions, I posted that clip of Mrs Merton to show Gels where the expression originated.  

I do think she has used her position to make vast amounts of money she could have only dreamed of pre Harry..
She is now ridiculing the very establishment that he was born into, yet it seems they both still wanted to use the royal name  to further their own ambitions, and obviously, bit by bit the royals are now making it difficult for them.

She is now complaining she has lost a lot...did she really think she could stab the family (or firm as she is now calling them) in the back and not expect some truths to come out about the way she has acted?

It's sad that both sides are playing dirty, but they did it with Diana, and unfortunately for Meghan, she is nowhere near as important in the Royals eyes.
The best thing she and Harry can do now is to stop mud slinging and  make their money whilst they are still topical, because who knows how soon the public will lose interest.

JulesV wrote:

Syl wrote:

I don't know whether she married for money, fame, love, or to further her political ambitions, I posted that clip of Mrs Merton to show Gels where the expression originated.  

I do think she has used her position to make vast amounts of money she could have only dreamed of pre Harry..
She is now ridiculing the very establishment that he was born into, yet it seems they both still wanted to use the royal name  to further their own ambitions, and obviously, bit by bit the royals are now making it difficult for them.

She is now complaining she has lost a lot...did she really think she could stab the family (or firm as she is now calling them) in the back and not expect some truths to come out about the way she has acted?

It's sad that both sides are playing dirty, but they did it with Diana, and unfortunately for Meghan, she is nowhere near as important in the Royals eyes.
The best thing she and Harry can do now is to stop mud slinging and  make their money whilst they are still topical, because who knows how soon the public will lose interest.

I get your point - but I wanted to stress that this was not a rags to riches story. Meghan had an expensive education, a good job,  and good social contacts with all the top people including the Trudeau family.

Before marriage, Lady Diana was a nanny,  and Sarah and Sophie had piddly little office jobs, they all profited enormously thru marrying a royal.


Re mudslinging  .... good point. I think the Oprah interview should definitely be postponed (even tho Prince Philip has now had his operation and is now on the mend, thankfully). But it's Oprah's decision now, the couple have no say in it.

I hope the royals stick to their customary stiff upper lip. Descending to the same level of mudslingling as the press and the media trolls, with bogus accusations of bullying is not in keeping with their dignified status.

Maddog wrote:

JulesV wrote:

I get your point - but I wanted to stress that this was not a rags to riches story. Meghan had an expensive education, a good job,  and good social contacts with all the top people including the Trudeau family.

Before marriage, Lady Diana was a nanny,  and Sarah and Sophie had piddly little office jobs, they all profited enormously thru marrying a royal.


Re mudslinging  .... good point. I think the Oprah interview should definitely be postponed (even tho Prince Philip has now had his operation and is now on the mend, thankfully). But it's Oprah's decision now, the couple have no say in it.

I hope the royals stick to their customary stiff upper lip. Descending to the same level of mudslingling as the press and the media trolls, with bogus accusations of bullying is not in keeping with their dignified status.

Like looping off the heads of former wives of the king?

JulesV wrote:

Syl wrote:

I don't know whether she married for money, fame, love, or to further her political ambitions, I posted that clip of Mrs Merton to show Gels where the expression originated.  

I do think she has used her position to make vast amounts of money she could have only dreamed of pre Harry..
She is now ridiculing the very establishment that he was born into, yet it seems they both still wanted to use the royal name  to further their own ambitions, and obviously, bit by bit the royals are now making it difficult for them.

She is now complaining she has lost a lot...did she really think she could stab the family (or firm as she is now calling them) in the back and not expect some truths to come out about the way she has acted?

It's sad that both sides are playing dirty, but they did it with Diana, and unfortunately for Meghan, she is nowhere near as important in the Royals eyes.
The best thing she and Harry can do now is to stop mud slinging and  make their money whilst they are still topical, because who knows how soon the public will lose interest.

Re mudslinging  .... good point. I think the Oprah interview should definitely be postponed (even tho Prince Philip has now had his operation and is now on the mend, thankfully). But it's Oprah's decision now, the couple have no say in it.

I hope the royals stick to their customary stiff upper lip. Descending to the same level of mudslingling as the press and the media trolls, with bogus accusations of bullying is not in keeping with their dignified status.

Andy wrote:Harry is better off out of Britain..Too many sicko failed journalists  like Farage, Morgan denigrating them  and flying squads of papparazi  from the Sun, Express and Mail hunting them down, trying for that lurid shot with an extreme telephoto  lens.
Even those tawdry rags can ill afford to keep their hacks on station 24/7/365,  4000 miles from home.

Andy wrote:Harry is better off out of Britain..Too many sicko failed journalists  like Farage, Morgan denigrating them  and flying squads of papparazi  from the Sun, Express and Mail hunting them down, trying for that lurid shot with an extreme telephoto  lens.
Even those tawdry rags can ill afford to keep their hacks on station 24/7/365,  4000 miles from home.

gelico wrote:

Andy wrote:Harry is better off out of Britain..Too many sicko failed journalists  like Farage, Morgan denigrating them  and flying squads of papparazi  from the Sun, Express and Mail hunting them down, trying for that lurid shot with an extreme telephoto  lens.
Even those tawdry rags can ill afford to keep their hacks on station 24/7/365,  4000 miles from home.

The paps are always in LA, they are everywhere which is why you always get constant pap snaps of celebrities out and about but the celebs in LA Adele/Bruce Willis et al don't care about it and accept it as part of the life they lead.  Harry and Megs get to just blend in with everyone else so the paps aren't nearly as likely to follow them about as they are in London (or anywhere else for that matter).
It's celebrity land there so H&M would be a lot further down the list on any paps snap shots desire, i suppose

Guardian wrote:Jennifer Garner joins Halle Berry's fight for new anti-paparazzi law in California

The actors – now backed by the MPAA – have testified before a state assembly committee to the harm and risk inflicted on their children by what they perceive as ineffective legislation

Jennifer Garner has joined a bid by the Oscar-winning actor Halle Berry to introduce new laws in California aimed at protecting children from the activities of paparazzi photographers.

The two women appeared before a committee at the state assembly in Sacramento to argue that the offspring of celebrities were not responsible for being born into the public eye and should not face daily harassment by photographers.

"We're moms here who are just trying to protect our children," said Berry. "These are little innocent children who didn't ask to be celebrities. They didn't ask to be thrown into this game and they don't have the wherewithal to process what's happening. We don't have a law in place to protect them from this."

Garner revealed that a stalker who once threatened to murder her unborn child was caught hiding amongst a group of paparazzi outside her children's school. "There are violent, mentally-ill stalkers who can now get close to my kids by simply following mobs of photographers and blending in," she said. "Like the very man who threatened to cut the babies out of my belly. Who was arrested waiting behind our daughter's preschool, standing among the throng of paparazzi. That man is still in prison, but I have no doubt there are others like him still out there."

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/aug/15/jennifer-garner-halle-berry-paparazzi-law