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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:45 pm




https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8660213/Video-shows-Jacob-Blake-brawling-cops-shot-Wisconsin-cops-placed-leave.html



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Post by Maddog Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:34 pm

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8660213/Video-shows-Jacob-Blake-brawling-cops-shot-Wisconsin-cops-placed-leave.html




Blake is an idiot, but the cops could have done much better.

Three British Bobbies would have thrown his ass on the ground, cuffed and taken him to jail.

When a guy isn't listening and he's heading towards his car with three kids, you holster your weapons and go into rugby mode.

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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:52 pm




He had already had a physical fight with police some moments before... it is widely said that he had a knife in his hand and that a taser had already been used to try to subdue him...


Here in UK... If the same shit had happened, and 3 UK armed police had their guns aimed at this person... And he had refused to comply with instructions and had proceeded to open the car door (with 3 vulnerable children inside it) and reach inside as he did... then I'm in no doubt that he would have also been shot by UK armed police...!


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Post by Maddog Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:24 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:


He had already had a physical fight with police some moments before... it is widely said that he had a knife in his hand and that a taser had already been used to try to subdue him...


Here in UK... If the same shit had happened, and 3 UK armed police had their guns aimed at this person... And he had refused to comply with instructions and had proceeded to open the car door (with 3 vulnerable children inside it) and reach inside as he did... then I'm in no doubt that he would have also been shot by UK armed police...!



They need to learn to fight better.

I have heard rumors about a knife. Nothing reliable as of yet.

But from what I have seen, it was mostly 3 cops yelling and pointing their handguns at the guy and him not listening. Tasers are great when they work.

Plan B has to be something less lethal than shooting him.
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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:35 pm




In the op link it is said that not only is a knife visible in the video, but cops can be heard shouting instructions to "drop the knife"...

A taser was used but didn't stop the man... That was plan B...

The man had a warrant out for his arrest for quite serious charges already...
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He had been given every opportunity to submit to the police peacefully...

But when he carried on refusing to abide to police instruction... And when he opened the car door and reached inside (with 3 children in the car and who knows what he was reaching inside for?)... then that was the point where he crossed the line and had to be considered as a highly dangerous threat that required the use of deadly force...!


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Post by Original Quill Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:15 am

There was no knife.  If a warrant was out, I doubt shooting him was the best way to serve it.

America police = Murder, Inc.

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Post by Maddog Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:37 am

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In the op link it is said that not only is a knife visible in the video, but cops can be heard shouting instructions to "drop the knife"...

A taser was used but didn't stop the man... That was plan B...

The man had a warrant out for his arrest for quite serious charges already...
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He had been given every opportunity to submit to the police peacefully...

But when he carried on refusing to abide to police instruction... And when he opened the car door and reached inside (with 3 children in the car and who knows what he was reaching inside for?)... then that was the point where he crossed the line and had to be considered as a highly dangerous threat that required the use of deadly force...!



They could have stopped him from getting to that door. That's their job. Anyone can handle compliant people. We have professionals trained fo handle the non compliant without shooting them. That might mean a right cross to the jaw and a blow to the solar plexus.

99 percent of American cops would have had that dude on the ground once he started towards that car door.
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Post by Maddog Wed Aug 26, 2020 2:22 am




Plenty of cops can manhandle and drop folks when they need to. Gotta holster that weapon and start throwing hands though.
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Post by Tommy Monk Wed Aug 26, 2020 3:49 pm




Police had already fought with him... Taser was also used...


He had plenty of chances to stop and obey police commands...


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Post by Original Quill Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:27 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Police had already fought with him... Taser was also used...

He had plenty of chances to stop and obey police commands...

He was shot in the back seven times.  He posed no threat to the cowards.


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Post by Tommy Monk Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:33 pm





He was reaching into or trying to get into a car with 3 children in it...


Maybe going for a gun or maybe going to try to drive off and run police over or run other people over or maybe even injure or kill the children...


He had a history of violent assault...


He had resisted arrest, fought with the police officers, been tasered to try to stop him... But he carried on...


He brought it on himself!!!


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Post by Original Quill Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:50 pm

The backstory was Blake was "trying to de-escalate a domestic incident".  He wasn't even one of the disputants.  He was the 'good guy' trying to help calm things down and make peace.  The police came on the scene and started indiscriminately punching, kicking and tasering everyone in sight.  The police were brawling, and blacks are taught never to oppose the police.

At this point, Blake wanted out, as it was clear that it was just another white cops versus all blacks in sight.  He had children in his vehicle to protect, and so he retreated to the driver door.  Two cops pursued him and, unprovoked, deliberately shot seven bullets into his back.

American police need restraints.  They are out of control, and are rapidly becoming a front of their own in the  crime scene.

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Post by Maddog Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:52 pm

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He was reaching into or trying to get into a car with 3 children in it...


Maybe going for a gun or maybe going to try to drive off and run police over or run other people over or maybe even injure or kill the children...


He had a history of violent assault...


He had resisted arrest, fought with the police officers, been tasered to try to stop him... But he carried on...


He brought it on himself!!!



So body slam his ass and cuff him.

Did you watch the video I posted. The cops do it every day here to much larger men.

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Post by Tommy Monk Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:54 pm




And get stabbed by the knife he was holding...?


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Post by Maddog Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:56 pm

Original Quill wrote:The backstory was Blake was "trying to de-escalate a domestic incident".  He wasn't even one of the disputants.  He was the 'good guy' trying to help calm things down and make peace.  The police came on the scene and started indiscriminately punching, kicking and tasering everyone in sight.  The police were brawling, and blacks are taught never to oppose the police.

At this point, Blake wanted out, as it was clear that it was just another white cops versus all blacks in sight.  He had children in his vehicle to protect, and so he retreated to the driver door.  Two cops pursued him and, unprovoked, deliberately shot seven bullets into his back.

American police need restraints.  They are out of control, and are rapidly becoming a front of their own in the  crime scene.

The dude had a warrant. That's why he was leaving. He shouldn't have even gotten involved. That doesn't excuse the cops but Blake is no good guy. He has sexual assault convictions. He should be in jail right now, not the hospital. 99% of the time that's how it would have played out.
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Post by Maddog Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:57 pm

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And get stabbed by the knife he was holding...?



I haven't seen any proof of the knife story.

But yes Tommy, there are 3 grown ass men there. Take that fucker down like one.
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Post by Original Quill Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:06 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:He was reaching into or trying to get into a car with 3 children in it...

Obviously, his primary concern was the safety and protection of his children.

Tommy Monk wrote:Maybe going for a gun or maybe going to try to drive off and run police over or run other people over or maybe even injure or kill the children...

Where is the gun? There is no evidence of a gun, but just because he is black you speculate that there was a gun? That is racist.

Tommy Monk wrote:He had a history of violent assault...

Nonsense. Just because he is black, you speculate on his history?

Tommy Monk wrote:He had resisted arrest, fought with the police officers, been tasered to try to stop him... But he carried on...

He brought it on himself!!!

This is a classic police escalation of a simple domestic incident, brought on by white cop racism. Blake was a peacemaker, trying to calm the disputants. The white police arrived on the scene and began brawling with everyone…obviously because they are black. At that point, Blake, being a responsible father, wanted nothing to do with the panicking cops and wanted to get his children out of there.

Because he is a black, two cops pursued him and for no reason, shot him seven times.

Those are the facts. Build your story around the facts tom, fcs. Then you can embellish around the shadows with your anti-black racism.

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Post by Maddog Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:06 pm




Meanwhile, the folks that had nothing to do with this are fighting back. And people are dying.
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Post by Maddog Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:08 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:He was reaching into or trying to get into a car with 3 children in it...

Obviously, his primary concern was the safety and protection of his children.

Tommy Monk wrote:Maybe going for a gun or maybe going to try to drive off and run police over or run other people over or maybe even injure or kill the children...

Where is the gun?  There is no evidence of a gun, but just because he is black you speculate that there was a gun?  That is racist.

Tommy Monk wrote:He had a history of violent assault...

Nonsense.  Just because he is black, you speculate on his history?

Tommy Monk wrote:He had resisted arrest, fought with the police officers, been tasered to try to stop him... But he carried on...

He brought it on himself!!!

This is a classic police escalation of a simple domestic incident, brought on by white cop racism.  Blake was a peacemaker, trying to calm the disputants.  The white police arrived on the scene and began brawling with everyone…obviously because they are black.  At that point, Blake, being a responsible father, wanted nothing to do with the panicking cops and wanted to get his children out of there.

Because he is a black, two cops pursued him and for no reason, shot him seven times.

Those are the facts.  Build your story around the facts tom, fcs.  Then you can embellish around the shadows with your anti-black racism.

We wasnt worried about his kids. Or they wouldn't have been in that situation.
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Post by Original Quill Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:21 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:The backstory was Blake was "trying to de-escalate a domestic incident". He wasn't even one of the disputants. He was the 'good guy' trying to help calm things down and make peace. The police came on the scene and started indiscriminately punching, kicking and tasering everyone in sight. The police were brawling, and blacks are taught never to oppose the police.

At this point, Blake wanted out, as it was clear that it was just another white cops versus all blacks in sight. He had children in his vehicle to protect, and so he retreated to the driver door. Two cops pursued him and, unprovoked, deliberately shot seven bullets into his back.

American police need restraints. They are out of control, and are rapidly becoming a front of their own in the crime scene.

The dude had a warrant. That's why he was leaving. He shouldn't have even gotten involved. That doesn't excuse the cops but Blake is no good guy. He has sexual assault convictions. He should be in jail right now, not the hospital. 99% of the time that's how it would have played out.

Ninety percent of people with warrants don't even know it. They are generally traffic matters (parking ticket?) that was ignored and the warrant is rubber stamped by some overworked clerk. You shouldn't speculate on his reason for leaving just because he is black.

Obviously, the real reason he was leaving was he had children his his car, and the white cops had arrived and began brawling. It is clear that the police were in the mood for killing because they already had their guns drawn. In the video you see a calm father, casually entering the driver side of a vehicle and preparing to get his children to safety. There is no knife. There is no gun. There is no warrant. There is not even a dispute, until a white policeman fires at point blank range at the back of a father trying to extricate his children from a dangerous situation.

Cops are a part of the criminal justice problem.

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Post by Original Quill Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:22 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Obviously, his primary concern was the safety and protection of his children.



Where is the gun?  There is no evidence of a gun, but just because he is black you speculate that there was a gun?  That is racist.



Nonsense.  Just because he is black, you speculate on his history?



This is a classic police escalation of a simple domestic incident, brought on by white cop racism.  Blake was a peacemaker, trying to calm the disputants.  The white police arrived on the scene and began brawling with everyone…obviously because they are black.  At that point, Blake, being a responsible father, wanted nothing to do with the panicking cops and wanted to get his children out of there.

Because he is a black, two cops pursued him and for no reason, shot him seven times.

Those are the facts.  Build your story around the facts tom, fcs.  Then you can embellish around the shadows with your anti-black racism.

We wasnt worried about his kids.  Or they wouldn't have been in that situation.

The white police created that situation. They always do.

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Post by Maddog Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:24 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:

The dude had a warrant. That's why he was leaving. He shouldn't have even gotten involved.  That doesn't excuse the cops but Blake is no good guy.  He has sexual assault convictions. He should be in jail right now, not the hospital. 99% of the time that's how it would have played out.

Ninety percent of people with warrants don't even know it.  They are generally traffic matters (parking ticket?) that was ignored and the warrant is rubber stamped by some overworked clerk.  You shouldn't speculate on his reason for leaving just because he is black.

Obviously, the real reason he was leaving was he had children his his car, and the white cops had arrived and began brawling.  It is clear that the police were in the mood for killing because they already had their guns drawn.  In the video you see a calm father, casually entering the driver side of a vehicle and preparing to get his children to safety.  There is no knife.  There is no gun.  There is no warrant.  There is not even a dispute, until a white policeman fires at point blank range at the back of a father trying to extricate his children from a dangerous situation.

Cops are a part of the criminal justice problem.

He knew he had warrants. He should be in jail, not in the hospital.

There is no feed to make him into something he's not. The cops should have tackled his ass and cuffed him. Force was needed. Deadly force wasnt.
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Post by Maddog Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:25 pm

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We wasnt worried about his kids.  Or they wouldn't have been in that situation.

The white police created that situation.  They always do.  

The police told him to get involved and leave his kids in the car?
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Post by Tommy Monk Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:30 pm




"...Raysean White, who said he recorded the incident on his phone, said he saw Mr Blake scuffling with three officers before they yelled: "Drop the knife, drop the knife"..."


https://news.sky.com/story/jacob-blakes-mother-calls-for-healing-after-he-was-shot-by-police-12056698


He had history of sexual assaults and discharging an illegal firearm in a club...



He fought with the police, had a knife, was tasered... Was shot after he was reaching into his car... maybe for a gun... He certainly wasn't reaching in for a tickling stick and some doughnuts for the cops...


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Post by Original Quill Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:31 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

The white police created that situation.  They always do.  

The police told him to get involved and leave his kids in the car?

To the contrary, he was one of the good guys...trying to calm down a domestic incident. It was only when the cops arrived that the brawling started.

Then his attention focused away from calming a domestic dispute, and toward getting his children to safety. The white cops already had their guns drawn, looking to kill somebody, anybody, as long as he is black.

The white police are a criminal enterprise in themselves.

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Post by Maddog Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:38 pm

Original Quill wrote:
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The police told him to get involved and leave his kids in the car?

To the contrary, he was one of the good guys...trying to calm down a domestic incident.  It was only when the cops arrived that the brawling started.

Then his attention focused away from calming a domestic dispute, and toward getting his children to safety.  The white cops already had their guns drawn, looking to kill somebody, anybody, as long as he is black.

The white police are a criminal enterprise in themselves.

He wanted to get away as he had a warrant for domestic abuse and sexual assault.

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Post by Original Quill Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:42 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:"...Raysean White, who said he recorded the incident on his phone, said he saw Mr Blake scuffling with three officers before they yelled: "Drop the knife, drop the knife"..."

https://news.sky.com/story/jacob-blakes-mother-calls-for-healing-after-he-was-shot-by-police-12056698

He had history of sexual assaults and discharging an illegal firearm in a club...

He fought with the police, had a knife, was tasered... Was shot after he was reaching into his car... maybe for a gun... He certainly wasn't reaching in for a tickling stick and some doughnuts for the cops...

No knife has been found. Forget the knife. Nor was there any sexual assault...it was a domestic incident. And no gun; only the white police officers had any firearms. As for brawling with police, I said the police showed up looking for someone to kill. The brawling was the least of their sins.

Blake was a man of peace, trying to make a peace in a minor dispute. The white police showed up, wanting to kill a black man. They found the peacemaker, unarmed, and trying to protect his little children, and shot him. They needed to satisfy their undisciplined lust for a killing. That's all.

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Post by Original Quill Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:50 pm

Maddog wrote:
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To the contrary, he was one of the good guys...trying to calm down a domestic incident.  It was only when the cops arrived that the brawling started.

Then his attention focused away from calming a domestic dispute, and toward getting his children to safety.  The white cops already had their guns drawn, looking to kill somebody, anybody, as long as he is black.

The white police are a criminal enterprise in themselves.

He wanted to get away as he had a warrant for domestic abuse and sexual assault.

Most people don't even know, if a warrant is outstanding, that it exists. You can't know his frame of mind. It's mere speculation.

A much more probable motivation for Blake's leaving was, he wanted to protect his children and get them out of harm's way...harm's way that the white police were in the process of creating. The white police only stopped when they found a black man to shoot. Criminal lot, they are.

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Post by Maddog Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:10 pm

Original Quill wrote:
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He wanted to get away as he had a warrant for domestic abuse and sexual assault.

Most people don't even know, if a warrant is outstanding, that it exists.  You can't know his frame of mind.  It's mere speculation.

A much more probable motivation for Blake's leaving was, he wanted to protect his children and get them out of harm's way...harm's way that the white police were in the process of creating.  The white police only stopped when they found a black man to shoot.  Criminal lot, they are.

He knew. He should be in jail. Not the hospital.
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Post by Tommy Monk Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:14 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:"...Raysean White, who said he recorded the incident on his phone, said he saw Mr Blake scuffling with three officers before they yelled: "Drop the knife, drop the knife"..."

https://news.sky.com/story/jacob-blakes-mother-calls-for-healing-after-he-was-shot-by-police-12056698

He had history of sexual assaults and discharging an illegal firearm in a club...

He fought with the police, had a knife, was tasered... Was shot after he was reaching into his car... maybe for a gun... He certainly wasn't reaching in for a tickling stick and some doughnuts for the cops...

No knife has been found. Forget the knife. Nor was there any sexual assault...it was a domestic incident. And no gun; only the white police officers had any firearms. As for brawling with police, I said the police showed up looking for someone to kill. The brawling was the least of their sins.

Blake was a man of peace, trying to make a peace in a minor dispute. The white police showed up, wanting to kill a black man. They found the peacemaker, unarmed, and trying to protect his little children, and shot him. They needed to satisfy their undisciplined lust for a killing. That's all.



Cops don't shout "drop the knife" unlesd the person they are shouting at has a knife...


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Post by Maddog Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:26 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
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No knife has been found.  Forget the knife.  Nor was there any sexual assault...it was a domestic incident.  And no gun; only the white police officers had any firearms.  As for brawling with police, I said the police showed up looking for someone to kill.  The brawling was the least of their sins.

Blake was a man of peace, trying to make a peace in a minor dispute.  The white police showed up, wanting to kill a black man.  They found the peacemaker, unarmed, and trying to protect his little children, and shot him.  They needed to satisfy their undisciplined lust for a killing.  That's all.



Cops don't shout "drop the knife" unlesd the person they are shouting at has a knife...


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Cops sometimes yell drop the knife when they arent really sure there is a knife. Same as they yell stop resisting, when people aren't resisting.

I haven't seen a knife. I've seen a grainy photo of something that is probably a phone. In any event, the "knife" didn't stop them from getting close enough to push him to the ground.
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Post by Tommy Monk Thu Aug 27, 2020 3:34 am




That's right... You've seen a grainy photo and a tiny bit of mobile phone video clips of the whole thing...


You don't know what the full picture was at all...!


The cops were right there and close up enough to know exactly what was happening when he started fighting with them to get away, and they were right up close enough to clearly see that he had pulled a knife out on them...


He was given clear instruction to drop the knife and stop...


But he carried on to the door of his car and opened it and reached inside for something...


And you can bet your life on it that it wasn't to pull out coffee and doughnuts...


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Post by Tommy Monk Thu Aug 27, 2020 3:43 am




Or would you have waited to see what it was that he reached into his car to pull out on you and the other officers, if you were one of the cops there...!?


Knowing that if he had pulled out a gun and started shooting, and maybe killed your colleagues, or other members of the public, and you had stood there doing nothing because you were waiting to see what he actually pulled out of his car first...!?


Or maybe you would have rushed him and risked being killed by the knife he was holding... Thinking that this violent arrest resisting attempted absconders life was more important than your own...!?


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Post by Original Quill Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:08 am

No knife was found. No gun was found. No shooting occurred except by the cops. It's just a guy getting into a car, shot in the back by marauding cops bent on shooting a black man in front of his children.

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Post by Maddog Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:08 am

Original Quill wrote:No knife was found.   No gun was found.  No shooting occurred except by the cops.  It's just a guy getting into a car, shot in the back by marauding cops bent on shooting a black man in front of his children.

This man should be alive, but you sure could dial back the horse shit.

You wont, but you could.
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Post by Didgee Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:20 am

Jacob Blake, the black man shot in the back seven times by Wisconsin police, had a knife in his posession, the Wisconsin Attorney General said Wednesday

Blake, 29, was shot in front of his three children by officers in Kenosha Sunday

Officers responded to a 911 call by Blake's girlfriend who said her boyfriend was present and he was not supposed to be on the premises
Officers tried to subdue Blake with a taser, but were unsuccessful

The DOJ said Blake told officers he had a knife in his possession
Investigators later 'recovered a knife from the driver's side floorboard' of his car

Officer Rusten Sheskey, a seven year veteran with the department, was identified as the cop who fired all seven shots into Blake's back


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8668375/Jacob-Blake-armed-KNIFE-cops-shot-says-Wisconsin-AG.html


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Looks like quill has been caught lying again...


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Post by Original Quill Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:45 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Looks like quill has been caught lying again...

Who doesn't have a pen-knife in his pocket? Not an issue. Rolling Eyes

These kind of police distortions happen all the time. Once, at a gay rights rally, some university students who happened to be wearing cowboy boots, showed up in support. They were arrested, and the police report said they were wearing "high-heeled shoes". An obvious attempt to distort the picture for publicity sake.

Any port in a storm. The Wisconsin police are desperate. But for the fact that their victim didn't die, they've got another Minneapolis on their hands.

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So first you say there was no knife... Now you claim it was just a little pen knife in his pocket...?


And you also claimed that he was just an innocent peace maker trying to break up a fight between two other people... When in fact the police were called because he was breaking a court order by bring there...


You are full of shit quill...
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Post by Maddog Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:09 pm

Its unclear if he had it on him. The knife may become a factor, or it may be just some if the bullshit cops throw out there,

Was it a folding knife? Was it open?

The dude had his back to the cops going for the car door. Push his ass to the ground.

If he pops up, knife in hand, then you may have to use lethal force.

But a good shot of pepper spray to the face and that guy isn't driving anywhere and he's in a jail cell where he belongs.
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Post by Maddog Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:11 pm

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So first you say there was no knife... Now you claim it was just a little pen knife in his pocket...?


And you also claimed that he was just an innocent peace maker trying to break up a fight between two other people... When in fact the police were called because he was breaking a court order by bring there...


You are full of shit quill...

Yup. He just makes up shit. I'm cool with his different opinions, but not his blatant disregard for the truth.
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Post by Original Quill Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:13 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:So first you say there was no knife... Now you claim it was just a little pen knife in his pocket...?

And you also claimed that he was just an innocent peace maker trying to break up a fight between two other people... When in fact the police were called because he was breaking a court order by bring there...

You are full of shit quill...

Tommy, stop lying. The police were called to break up a domestic incident. When they appeared, the police rioted. Who wouldn't want to vacate the scene?

It's very typical of American police behavior anywhere. They escalate the situation whenever blacks are involved.

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Post by Original Quill Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:16 pm

Maddog wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:



So first you say there was no knife... Now you claim it was just a little pen knife in his pocket...?


And you also claimed that he was just an innocent peace maker trying to break up a fight between two other people... When in fact the police were called because he was breaking a court order by bring there...


You are full of shit quill...

Yup.  He just makes up shit.  I'm cool with his different opinions, but not his blatant disregard for the truth.  

I just said, it's not about me! If you're out of material about the subject, I guess your arguments been refuted. Move on.

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Post by Maddog Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:16 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:So first you say there was no knife... Now you claim it was just a little pen knife in his pocket...?

And you also claimed that he was just an innocent peace maker trying to break up a fight between two other people... When in fact the police were called because he was breaking a court order by bring there...

You are full of shit quill...

Tommy, stop lying.  The police were called to break up a domestic incident.  When they appeared, the police rioted.  Who wouldn't want to vacate the scene?

It's very typical of American police behavior anywhere.  They escalate the situation whenever blacks are involved.

You have zero right to tell anyone to stop lying.

That ship sailed along time ago Walter.
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Post by Maddog Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:18 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:

Yup.  He just makes up shit.  I'm cool with his different opinions, but not his blatant disregard for the truth.  

I just said, it's not about me!  If you're out of material about the subject, I guess your arguments been refuted.  Move on.

It's about your lying that ruins every thread on this forum. You are a cancer around here.

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Post by Original Quill Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:19 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

I just said, it's not about me!  If you're out of material about the subject, I guess your arguments been refuted.  Move on.

It's about your lying that ruins every thread on this forum. You are a cancer around here.

Nonsense. You are just out of answers.

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Post by Maddog Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:22 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:

It's about your lying that ruins every thread on this forum. You are a cancer around here.

Nonsense.  You are just out of answers.

You're a fucking liar and a cancer.

You become the topic because of that.
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Post by Tommy Monk Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:26 pm

Didgee wrote:Jacob Blake, the black man shot in the back seven times by Wisconsin police, had a knife in his posession, the Wisconsin Attorney General said Wednesday

Blake, 29, was shot in front of his three children by officers in Kenosha Sunday

Officers responded to a 911 call by Blake's girlfriend who said her boyfriend was present and he was not supposed to be on the premises
Officers tried to subdue Blake with a taser, but were unsuccessful

The DOJ said Blake told officers he had a knife in his possession
Investigators later 'recovered a knife from the driver's side floorboard' of his car

Officer Rusten Sheskey, a seven year veteran with the department, was identified as the cop who fired all seven shots into Blake's back


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8668375/Jacob-Blake-armed-KNIFE-cops-shot-says-Wisconsin-AG.html






Maybe quill should read this news report...


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Post by Maddog Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:31 am

"While Mr. Rittenhouse is being pursued by the group, an unknown gunman fires into the air, though it’s unclear why. The weapon’s muzzle flash appears in footage filmed at the scene.

Mr. Rittenhouse turns toward the sound of gunfire as another pursuer lunges toward him from the same direction. Mr. Rittenhouse then fires four times, and appears to shoot the man in the head."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/27/us/kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-shooting-video.html?fbclid=IwAR2jls590RvzFUXlJkUWc-6iDXmVuQOr_BEmxo9Y1b9IvY0zAi5HxuDMBF4

The kid was running away from his pursuers while shots are being fired. One lunges at him. Had they let the kid run away, nobody would have died that night.
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Post by Original Quill Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:11 am

Tommy Monk wrote:
Didgee wrote:Jacob Blake, the black man shot in the back seven times by Wisconsin police, had a knife in his posession, the Wisconsin Attorney General said Wednesday

Blake, 29, was shot in front of his three children by officers in Kenosha Sunday

Officers responded to a 911 call by Blake's girlfriend who said her boyfriend was present and he was not supposed to be on the premises
Officers tried to subdue Blake with a taser, but were unsuccessful

The DOJ said Blake told officers he had a knife in his possession
Investigators later 'recovered a knife from the driver's side floorboard' of his car

Officer Rusten Sheskey, a seven year veteran with the department, was identified as the cop who fired all seven shots into Blake's back

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8668375/Jacob-Blake-armed-KNIFE-cops-shot-says-Wisconsin-AG.html

Maybe quill should read this news report...

The news reports are off the police reports. The cops are the criminals. Ergo: you are listening to the criminal's side of the story. Everyone knows criminals lie.

The lady in question had nothing to do with Blake. She was calling police about her own boyfriend. Blake was trying to intervene to stop the altercation. The cops came and rioted...it's on video and there is no other interpretation. Your mumbo-jumbo of the story is precisely how the cops lie in their reports. (Remember the university students with cowboy boots...and the cops called them high heeled shoes?)

We've seen the video, Tom. So, you needn't instruct us on how to interpret events. We saw the cop try to murder Blake, from behind, where Blake wasn’t even facing him. The Supreme Court has said that in order to shoot a fleeing felon you have to prove an imminent threat to the life of you or another. You can't shoot a guy from behind, who is moving away, and say he was threatening you.

You can separate out the bullshite from the beef on your own, if you wanted to. You just don't want to. You are in favor of police-state murder, and that's dangerous. Ask Kim Jung Un.

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