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Post by Maddog Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:40 pm

Ryan Whitaker was sitting at home with his girlfriend playing video games when he was killed by police.
A noise complaint from an annoyed neighbor resulted in cops shooting and killing a man within five seconds of him opening his front door.

Ryan Whitaker opened the door holding a gun in his right hand which is legal in Arizona but it made the cops fear for their lives.

However, the cops never gave him a chance to put the gun down which he appeared to be trying to do when one cop shot him in the back three times.

"Why did you guys shoot him?" Whitaker's girlfriend, Brandee Nees, yelled as she stepped into the doorway.

"He just pulled a gun on us, ma'am," Phoenix police officer Jeff Cooke said.

"Because it's dark and someone just knocked on the door," Nees responded.

When Phoenix police officer John Ferragamo asked Nees if she and Whitaker had been fighting, she told him they were only playing video games.

"Literally we were making salsa and playing Crash Bandicoot so there may have been some screaming from PlayStation but it wasn’t domestic violence or anything," she said..


https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/cops-gone-rogue/watch-phoenix-cops-kill-man-after-responding-to-noise-complaint-over-video-game-AsvFt-AHpkeQlcgNj5qiTA


Video in link.

Has this case made the UK news? It's barely made the US news.

Weird.
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Post by Victorismyhero Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:30 pm

it probably doesnt fit the narrative
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Post by Maddog Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:53 pm

Victorismyhero wrote:it probably doesnt fit the narrative

Nope, his death can't be exploited for political gain.

The left can't use him as a martyr and the right can't admit the police have problems.

So nothing changes.
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Post by Original Quill Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:56 pm

How bout the right? What? Are you guys snowflakes?

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Post by Maddog Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:43 pm

Has this story been covered in the UK at all? It's already faded away over here except for a social media page dedicated to him.
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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:04 pm




No mention of it here in UK...


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Post by Maddog Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:17 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:


No mention of it here in UK...



No mention by Trump or Biden either.

Weird.
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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:20 pm




Not weird... deliberately ignored...


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Post by Syl Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:23 pm

I haven't seen this story in the UK.
I have a question though, why the heck would anyone open their front door in the first place if they were so anxious as to who was standing outside they needed a gun in their hand?
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Post by Original Quill Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:27 pm

Syl wrote:I haven't seen this story in the UK.
I have a question though, why the heck would anyone open their front door in the first place if they were so anxious as to who was standing outside they needed a gun in their hand?

Classic gun mentality (Arizona has the highest gun ownership per capita in the nation). Their answer to everything is, I'll fookin' blow it away!! Rolling Eyes

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:35 pm




Plenty of people here in UK have some sort of weapon by their front door "just in case"... And would have it ready in their hand if they were opening the door late at night to an unexpected caller...


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Post by Maddog Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:01 pm

Syl wrote:I haven't seen this story in the UK.
I have a question though, why the heck would anyone open their front door in the first place if they were so anxious as to who was standing outside they needed a gun in their hand?

People do that all of the time here. We open doors when people knock. And the guy already has problems with his neighbor, and it was late.

Also, the cops hid from view so he couldnt see them through the peephole.

And lastly, its your right to answer a door with a gun in your hand. It's the cops jobs to not freak out and shoot people.  

Its AZ. It's an open carry state. Cops are supposed to be used to seeing armed people, especially on their own property.
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Post by Maddog Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:02 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Syl wrote:I haven't seen this story in the UK.
I have a question though, why the heck would anyone open their front door in the first place if they were so anxious as to who was standing outside they needed a gun in their hand?

Classic gun mentality (Arizona has the highest gun ownership per capita in the nation).  Their answer to everything is, I'll fookin' blow it away!!  Rolling Eyes

The cops blew him away. But that's OK with you isn't it?
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Post by Original Quill Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:11 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Classic gun mentality (Arizona has the highest gun ownership per capita in the nation).  Their answer to everything is, I'll fookin' blow it away!!  Rolling Eyes

The cops blew him away. But that's OK with you isn't it?  

No. Cops are just as gun crazy as the southern gun nutz. In fact, they are southern gun nutz. Rolling Eyes

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Post by Syl Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:19 pm

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:I haven't seen this story in the UK.
I have a question though, why the heck would anyone open their front door in the first place if they were so anxious as to who was standing outside they needed a gun in their hand?

People do that all of the time here. We open doors when people knock. And the guy already has problems with his neighbor, and it was late.

Also, the cops hid from view so he couldnt see them through the peephole.

And lastly, its your right to answer a door with a gun in your hand. It's the cops jobs to not freak out and shoot people.  

Its AZ. It's an open carry state. Cops are supposed to be used to seeing armed people, especially on their own property.

The cops were obviously 100% in the wrong.

I just don't understand the mentality of opening your front door late at night, with or without a gun, if you feel threatened in some way.
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Post by Maddog Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:29 pm

Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:

People do that all of the time here. We open doors when people knock. And the guy already has problems with his neighbor, and it was late.

Also, the cops hid from view so he couldnt see them through the peephole.

And lastly, its your right to answer a door with a gun in your hand. It's the cops jobs to not freak out and shoot people.  

Its AZ. It's an open carry state. Cops are supposed to be used to seeing armed people, especially on their own property.

The cops were obviously 100% in the wrong.

I just don't understand the mentality of opening your front door late at night, with or without a gun,  if you feel threatened in some way.

Could be someone needing help. Maybe a kid was out late. His daughter had just graduated earlier that day. Could have thought it was her or one of her friends.

To be honest, while I dont answer the door with a handgun, I would answer the door if someone knocked. Men often do things that women wouldn't.
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Post by Original Quill Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:57 pm

It's what you get when both sides have guns. Someone is gonna die, and both sides think they are the 'good guy'.

Ban guns, and both sides live...sort things out another day.

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Post by Syl Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:15 pm

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:

The cops were obviously 100% in the wrong.

I just don't understand the mentality of opening your front door late at night, with or without a gun,  if you feel threatened in some way.

Could be someone needing help. Maybe a kid was out late.  His daughter had just graduated earlier that day. Could have thought it was her or one of her friends.  

To be honest, while I dont answer the door with a handgun, I would answer the door if someone knocked. Men often do things that women wouldn't.  

Surely the obvious response would be to shout through the door, ask who was there and what did they want.
I guess we just have a different mindset in the UK where we simply dont have a gun mentality.

None of this detracts from the fact the police were wrong and the difference between cop killings and the publicity it attracts, especially in the last few weeks, is what colour the victim is.
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Post by Maddog Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:04 pm

Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:

Could be someone needing help. Maybe a kid was out late.  His daughter had just graduated earlier that day. Could have thought it was her or one of her friends.  

To be honest, while I dont answer the door with a handgun, I would answer the door if someone knocked. Men often do things that women wouldn't.  

Surely the obvious response would be to shout through the door, ask who was there and what did they want.
I guess we just have a different mindset in the UK where we simply dont have a gun mentality.

None of this detracts from the fact the police were wrong and the difference between cop killings and the publicity it attracts, especially in the last few weeks,  is what colour the victim is.

Yes, a lot of folks, especially after dark, are not going to open that door until they know who is on the other side.

The police hiding from the peephole was weird. On a call like that, I would think they would want the people inside knowing who was at the door. This wasn't a raid for terrorists. It was a noise complaint.
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Post by Maddog Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:20 pm

Riots about to break out in Arizona.

Just kidding. Victim was the wrong race.
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Post by Tommy Monk Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:32 pm





The left wing media can't spin that story to create trouble for trump...


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Post by Original Quill Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:58 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:The left wing media can't spin that story to create trouble for trump...

You are doing an energetic best for the right wing, toms. But people are beginning to realize that cops are bigger liars than the robbers.

That's why all these protests are happening. The protests are going to continue until the cops get on the proper side of the law.

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Post by Maddog Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:08 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:The left wing media can't spin that story to create trouble for trump...

You are doing an energetic best for the right wing, toms.  But people are beginning to realize that cops are bigger liars than the robbers.

That's why all these protests are happening.  The protests are going to continue until the cops get on the proper side of the law.

What protests in AZ are you talking about?
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Post by Original Quill Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:18 am

It's bigger than just Arizona. It's Minnesota, it's Colorado, it's Georgia, it's Florida, it's Kentucky, it's Oregon, it's Washington, and now it's Wisconsin. The protests happened just last night in Kenosha.

All across the nation people are lobbying the government to stop the shooting of black men by the police.

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Post by Maddog Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:05 am

Original Quill wrote:It's bigger than just Arizona.  It's Minnesota, it's Colorado, it's Georgia, it's Florida, it's Kentucky, it's Oregon, it's Washington, and now it's Wisconsin.  The protests happened just last night in Kenosha.

All across the nation people are lobbying the government to stop the shooting of black men by the police.

None in AZ for this killing.

Weird.
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Post by Tommy Monk Thu Aug 27, 2020 1:48 pm

Original Quill wrote:It's bigger than just Arizona. It's Minnesota, it's Colorado, it's Georgia, it's Florida, it's Kentucky, it's Oregon, it's Washington, and now it's Wisconsin. The protests happened just last night in Kenosha.

All across the nation people are lobbying the government to stop the shooting of black men by the police.




That won't happen until black men stop the crime they are doing and they obey the law and obey the police!


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Post by Original Quill Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:58 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Original Quill wrote:It's bigger than just Arizona.  It's Minnesota, it's Colorado, it's Georgia, it's Florida, it's Kentucky, it's Oregon, it's Washington, and now it's Wisconsin.  The protests happened just last night in Kenosha.

All across the nation people are lobbying the government to stop the shooting of black men by the police.

That won't happen until black men stop the crime they are doing and they obey the law and obey the police!

And that won't happen until police stop profiling and murdering blacks.  The "crimes" you mention are just false provocations, like the broken tail light fabricated by the white police (see, pretextual reason for stopping and killing Sandra Bland, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Sandra_Bland).  

It begins with the cops...that's the point of BLM: stop the cycle.  Otherwise, it's just going to go on forever.

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Post by Maddog Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:01 pm

Quill you stupid brain fuckwad.

What race is the man in this story?
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Post by Original Quill Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:02 pm

Maddog wrote:Quill you stupid brain fuckwad.

What race is the man in this story?

Read the title, you dumb hick.  This thread is not about me.

As far as the man in the story, you can't generalize from specifics.

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Post by Maddog Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:14 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:Quill you stupid brain fuckwad.

What race is the man in this story?

Read the title, you dumb hick.  This thread is not about me.

As far as the man in the story, you can't generalize from specifics.

Answer the question you gigantic vagina.
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Post by Original Quill Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:17 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Read the title, you dumb hick.  This thread is not about me.

As far as the man in the story, you can't generalize from specifics.

Answer the question you gigantic vagina.

Any chance to attack the messenger, and avoid the message. To respond would be gratuitous.

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Post by Maddog Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:20 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:

Answer the question you gigantic vagina.

Any chance to attack the messenger, and avoid the message.  To respond would be gratuitous.

The messenger is a liar. He becomes the topic.
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Post by Original Quill Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:27 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Any chance to attack the messenger, and avoid the message.  To respond would be gratuitous.

The messenger is a liar. He becomes the topic.  

Silly. Give it up, loser. Your campaign to re-frame events isn't working. You retreat to attacking the messenger. Next step is to fall on the floor and hold a temper tantrum.

This is exactly what Trump does when faced with insightful question from reporters. Don't you recognize yourself? It's the same.

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You're a cancer dude. Your message is full if lies and I'll continue to point that out.

Glad you dont like it.
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Post by Syl Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:03 pm

I doubt many do like it tbh, it's sort of taking over the forum lately. Rolling Eyes
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Post by Maddog Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:29 am

Syl wrote:I doubt many do like it tbh, it's sort of taking over the forum lately. Rolling Eyes

Not much else going on around here.

Quill lies, I point it out.

He lies some more.

But feel free to engage him. I won't interrupt.

I would be fine with him never responding to me.
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Post by Original Quill Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:37 am

Maddog wrote:You're a cancer dude. Your message is full if lies and I'll continue to point that out.

Glad you dont like it.

You cry and whine, Red, but the very things you claim offend you didn't start until you came aboard. You've never offered an intelligent rationale for any of your arguments. You just use quips, insult people, and like this morning, turn on the messenger...forget the message. Then you follow up with a string of "liar!", made up doxes, and claims of 'gotcha", all to justify your own twisted frame-up of facts.

Face it, it's Jim Crow all over again. Southerners never claimed to be intelligent, and they aren't. They are just grifters and tricksters, playing standards against truth. Maybe we should have a literacy test, like y'all invented for black voters: how high is 'UP'? or how many marbles in the jar? You'd still lose, for sure.

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Post by Maddog Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:55 am

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:You're a cancer dude. Your message is full if lies and I'll continue to point that out.  

Glad you dont like it.  

You cry and whine, Red, but the very things you claim offend you didn't start until you came aboard.  You've never offered an intelligent rationale for any of your arguments.  You just use quips, insult people, and like this morning, turn on the messenger...forget the message.  Then you follow up with a string of "liar!", made up doxes, and claims of 'gotcha", all to justify your own twisted frame-up of facts.

Face it, it's Jim Crow all over again.  Southerners never claimed to be intelligent, and they aren't.  They are just grifters and tricksters, playing standards against truth.  Maybe we should have a literacy test, like y'all invented for black voters: how high is 'UP'? or how many marbles in the jar?  You'd still lose, for sure.

Blather your horseshit to someone else. I'm not interested.

And, I only insult you. It's personal. I don't like you.
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Post by Original Quill Fri Aug 28, 2020 4:24 am

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

You cry and whine, Red, but the very things you claim offend you didn't start until you came aboard.  You've never offered an intelligent rationale for any of your arguments.  You just use quips, insult people, and like this morning, turn on the messenger...forget the message.  Then you follow up with a string of "liar!", made up doxes, and claims of 'gotcha", all to justify your own twisted frame-up of facts.

Face it, it's Jim Crow all over again.  Southerners never claimed to be intelligent, and they aren't.  They are just grifters and tricksters, playing standards against truth.  Maybe we should have a literacy test, like y'all invented for black voters: how high is 'UP'? or how many marbles in the jar?  You'd still lose, for sure.

Blather your horseshit to someone else. I'm not interested.

And, I only insult you. It's personal. I don't like you.

It's mutual, pal. Only I have a reason. You, you're jealous. But my reason is valid. You're the classic southerner that loves racism, and lives to kill, and makes a bad name for the US. You're the ugly American. You're the reason why this country will always be shit, unless and until we can get rid of you and your kind.

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Post by Syl Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:17 pm

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Syl wrote:I doubt many do like it tbh, it's sort of taking over the forum lately. Rolling Eyes

Not much else going on around here.

Quill lies, I point it out.

He lies some more.

But feel free to engage him. I won't interrupt.

I would be fine with him never responding to me.

I do engage him sometimes, as I do you.

You are right though that it's very quiet on here lately. Maybe we should all make more of an effort to start new threads rather than concentrate on old arguments. Wink
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Post by Maddog Fri Aug 28, 2020 4:32 pm

Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:

Not much else going on around here.

Quill lies, I point it out.

He lies some more.

But feel free to engage him. I won't interrupt.

I would be fine with him never responding to me.

I do engage him sometimes, as I do you.

You are right though that it's very quiet on here lately. Maybe we should all make more of an effort to start new threads rather than concentrate on old arguments. Wink

There is really not much point to new threads if they will be filled with old lies.

The same cancer infects every thread.
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Post by Original Quill Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:19 pm

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:

I do engage him sometimes, as I do you.

You are right though that it's very quiet on here lately. Maybe we should all make more of an effort to start new threads rather than concentrate on old arguments. Wink

There is really not much point to new threads if they will be filled with old lies.

The same cancer infects every thread.

Notice Redneck is evading the point. Rather, he is looking to express a fight.

This is supposed to be a debate forum. Remember Syl, I said that southerners are not equipped to discuss things rationally. It's fight, or nothing. It's their habit pattern. They even love the instruments of war, guns. They have no idea about the instruments of rational thought. They don't know how to discuss.

Red has abandoned any discussion about the topic, favoring a good battle instead...a southern habit. The fire coming out of his nose is jealousy...jealous frustration because he can't cut it, and others around him are doing quite well. He’s being bested on all fronts, and all he can utter is “lies” and be dismissive about ideas and cerebral thought. Pity him, for he knows not.

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