99 year old war veteran hoped to raise £1000 for the NHS...

What a briliant story.

WWII heero Captain Tom Moore  initially set out to raise £1,000 by walking 100 lengths of his 27-yard garden in Bedfordshire - but he has now smashed his target by 7,000 times in less than a week.
He has now raised more than £7million for the 'brave nurses and doctors' of the NHS by marching around his garden on a zimmer frame.







https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8220789/WWII-hero-Captain-Tom-Moore-99-breaks-5MILLION-mark.html

And such a handsome man, don't you think?

I love him. And donated! Go Captain Go

Ex Para, can't beat 'em !

Original Quill wrote:And such a handsome man, don't you think?  

Seems he always was Quill.

I like the way he sports the traditional three-button blue blazer.  Polished brass buttons and Medals...muted tie, subdued color behind the ribbons and crest.

He's a man of excellent tastes.  

What a fella! Puts me to shame, actually.

Donations have soared past 12 million...what a triumph.

I just read £13 million. And he got a guard of honor

Hats off to this wonderful veteran

Its wonderful, how some people can inspire millions

Great man!

Is it still socialized medicine if it requires some charitable contributions to function properly?

Far more so than your current crop of idiots can come up with
and
this money is going to provide things that no system could ever be expected to have ready, basically R&R for nhs staff, and what could be described as pastoral care for them and their families..things that, save for a 1 in 100 year happening, are never normally needed at a level that's being seen now....

Victorismyhero wrote:Far more so than your current crop of idiots can come up with
and
this money is going to provide things that no system could ever be expected to have ready, basically R&R for nhs staff, and what could be described as pastoral care for them and their families..things that, save for a 1 in 100 year happening, are never normally needed at a level that's being seen now....

We have go fund me accounts for all manner of charitable activities that help people.

and whats that got to do with your questioning if its still socialized medicine....

Victorismyhero wrote:and whats that got to do with your questioning if its still socialized medicine....

The point is simple. Our system is inferior because it's not completely funded by the government and sometimes relies upon the generosity of donors.  A system that doesnt require that is far superior.

Or so we get told.

well ok...but please make it plain if your posts refer to a uniquely USA experience or not.....

I took your comment to reference what our old boy Tom was doing.....

It's the old RW saw that charity is a substitute for socialized healthcare.

In truth, there is no equivalency whatsoever. It's like comparing a ham sandwich to a 12-course feast. Charity is always too little, too late.

depends what its for quill....

this is for the things that make the NHS staffers lives better and a bit more bearable under whatever strain they are facing, not something you can have sat in place "just in case"

thats why over here we have "benevolent funds for our fire fighters police etc.....

and why we have charitable collections to provide "a bit extra" to many other hero's of society.....
our core services dont depend on "charity"...

again being in the states YMMV

Victorismyhero wrote:depends what its for quill....

this is for the things that make the NHS staffers lives better and a bit more bearable under whatever strain they are facing, not something you can have sat in place "just in case"

thats why over here we have "benevolent funds for our fire fighters police etc.....

and why we have charitable collections  to provide "a bit extra" to many other hero's of society.....
our core services dont depend on "charity"...

again being in the states YMMV  

Yeah. I don't think anyone proposes to do away with charity. It's just not an appropriate substitute for government supported healthcare.

I'm sure if anyone suggested that the military be funded by charity, s/he would be laughed out of the room. Does healthcare face any less of an enemy? The point is all the more poignant during the present Covid crisis.

Victorismyhero wrote:well ok...but please make it plain if your posts refer to a uniquely USA experience or not.....

I took your comment to reference what our old boy Tom was doing.....

What he is doing is noble and my hat's off to him.

Y’all sign the petition to have him knighted please! We can’t over here.

Cass wrote:Y’all sign the petition to have him knighted please! We can’t over here.

Will do Cass.
He reaches the grand old age of 100 at the end of the month. What a man x

Syl wrote:

Cass wrote:Y’all sign the petition to have him knighted please! We can’t over here.

Will do Cass.
He reaches the grand old age of 100 at the end of the month. What a man x

Cheers Syl! Over £20million. Unbelievable!

A truly inspirational man who, ironically, lives only half a dozen miles from my own home.

It was absolutely great to see him pass the finishing line to a salute in front of an honour guard of soldiers from his old regiment, The Yorkshires.

There is no stopping him.

"Captain Tom Moore, left, and Michael Ball, right. Credit: PA
Captain Tom Moore has collaborated with singer Michael Ball with their own uplifting version of You'll Never Walk Alone for charity.
Since starting his fundraising efforts by walking 100 times around his garden, which he completed on Thursday, Captain Tom has raised over £21m for the NHS.
Having inspired a nation, Ball has joined the Captain Tom to perform the uplifting You'll Never Walk Alone with the attention of raising even more money.
The NHS Voices of Care Choir have also joined the song, which was instigated after Ball spoke to Captain Tom on BBC Breakfast and was recorded within 24 hours.
Captain Tom has spoken the words, with Ball providing the lead vocals.
Ball hopes the single will reach No 1 in time for for Captain Tom's 100th birthday on April 30th. "




https://www.itv.com/news/2020-04-18/captain-tom-moore-launches-you-ll-never-walk-alone-charity-single-with-michael-ball/

Wonderful!

£23 million. It’s unbelievable Geoff!

eddie wrote:

I hope he's flying through here!!

Okay, who the HELL gave edds and Maddog red for that? It was just a joke, and a funny joke at that.

They weren't bashing this inspirational man, and anyone who thinks they were has seriously lost the plot.

It was ME...and i dont care...it wasnt bashing but it WAS disrespectful

AND I have zero humor about this current situation....
as I am trained (in my earlier working life) as a medical microbiologist and which studies included epidemiology i'm going to stick my neck out and make a prediction, and its one that should make you shit yourself....

given the profile (as best we have it) of the victims of covid, and given its a corona virus (and thus any hopes of immunity are tennuous at best (think how immune you become to a cold...you dont....)
by the time this virus has done running several waves through the world it will kill in the very high millions if not billions and WILL reduce global trade to next to zero. It will also take out 90% of experienced skilled people (who of course tend to be older .......it will also rampage around for 20-50 years.....

UNLESS a suitable drug candidate can be found.......
OR
we can sufficiently "isolate" to make it burn out

to do that would mean NO international travel (at least certainly not for holidays) and possibly even restrictions on goods entering/leaving countries....

Any country getting "clean" would need to defend its borders like mad, and practice the greatest care in ANY outside contact......

Victorismyhero wrote:It was ME...and i dont care...it wasnt bashing but it WAS disrespectful

AND I have zero humor about this current situation....
as I am trained (in my earlier working life) as a medical microbiologist and which studies included epidemiology i'm going to stick my neck out and make a prediction, and its one that should make you shit yourself....

given the profile (as best we have it) of the victims of covid, and given its a corona virus (and thus any hopes of immunity are tennuous at best (think how immune you become to a cold...you dont....)
by the time this virus has done running several waves through the world it will kill in the very high millions if not billions and WILL reduce global trade to next to zero. It will also take out 90% of experienced skilled people (who of course tend to be older .......it will also rampage around for 20-50 years.....

UNLESS a suitable drug candidate can be found.......
OR
we can sufficiently "isolate" to make it burn out

to do that would mean NO international travel (at least certainly not for holidays) and possibly even restrictions on goods entering/leaving countries....

Any country getting "clean" would need to defend its borders like mad, and practice the greatest care in ANY outside contact......

Guess it's good there are people still working on this pandemic, and they have a different opinion.

And a much better attitude.

Syl wrote:There is no stopping him.

"Captain Tom Moore, left, and Michael Ball, right. Credit: PA
Captain Tom Moore has collaborated with singer Michael Ball with their own uplifting version of You'll Never Walk Alone for charity.
Since starting his fundraising efforts by walking 100 times around his garden, which he completed on Thursday, Captain Tom has raised over £21m for the NHS.
Having inspired a nation, Ball has joined the Captain Tom to perform the uplifting You'll Never Walk Alone with the attention of raising even more money.
The NHS Voices of Care Choir have also joined the song, which was instigated after Ball spoke to Captain Tom on BBC Breakfast and was recorded within 24 hours.
Captain Tom has spoken the words, with Ball providing the lead vocals.
Ball hopes the single will reach No 1 in time for for Captain Tom's 100th birthday on April 30th. "




https://www.itv.com/news/2020-04-18/captain-tom-moore-launches-you-ll-never-walk-alone-charity-single-with-michael-ball/

I just listened. Got a bit goosepimply.

It was just a lighthearted joke Vic. Chill out and have a spliff.

Maddog wrote:

Victorismyhero wrote:It was ME...and i dont care...it wasnt bashing but it WAS disrespectful

AND I have zero humor about this current situation....
as I am trained (in my earlier working life) as a medical microbiologist and which studies included epidemiology i'm going to stick my neck out and make a prediction, and its one that should make you shit yourself....

given the profile (as best we have it) of the victims of covid, and given its a corona virus (and thus any hopes of immunity are tennuous at best (think how immune you become to a cold...you dont....)
by the time this virus has done running several waves through the world it will kill in the very high millions if not billions and WILL reduce global trade to next to zero. It will also take out 90% of experienced skilled people (who of course tend to be older .......it will also rampage around for 20-50 years.....

UNLESS a suitable drug candidate can be found.......
OR
we can sufficiently "isolate" to make it burn out

to do that would mean NO international travel (at least certainly not for holidays) and possibly even restrictions on goods entering/leaving countries....

Any country getting "clean" would need to defend its borders like mad, and practice the greatest care in ANY outside contact......

Guess it's good there are people still working on this pandemic, and they have a different opinion.

And a much better attitude.    

WHO now warns that immunity may not be a thing that you can rely on

so that leaves hoping for a suitable drug....

otherwise the ONLY way out is to starve it of victims...which means continued lockdown......

Victorismyhero wrote:It was ME...and i dont care...it wasnt bashing but it WAS disrespectful

AND I have zero humor about this current situation....
as I am trained (in my earlier working life) as a medical microbiologist and which studies included epidemiology i'm going to stick my neck out and make a prediction, and its one that should make you shit yourself....

given the profile (as best we have it) of the victims of covid, and given its a corona virus (and thus any hopes of immunity are tennuous at best (think how immune you become to a cold...you dont....)
by the time this virus has done running several waves through the world it will kill in the very high millions if not billions and WILL reduce global trade to next to zero. It will also take out 90% of experienced skilled people (who of course tend to be older .......it will also rampage around for 20-50 years.....

UNLESS a suitable drug candidate can be found.......
OR
we can sufficiently "isolate" to make it burn out

to do that would mean NO international travel (at least certainly not for holidays) and possibly even restrictions on goods entering/leaving countries....

Any country getting "clean" would need to defend its borders like mad, and practice the greatest care in ANY outside contact......

But it was still just a joke. To me, even an affectionate joke. Bit ott to red it.

well 'scuse me if my humor doesnt extend that far....
I have lost far too many friends and have friends who have lost loved ones to this vile thing to even consider humor atm.

people who I knew even if i never saw their face, I knew their voices, forever silent now, and spent many hours in their company, people who I knew as much about as their close family, indeed i spoke to their families..fellow gamers on WoW, radio hams, and such.

no...I have No humor left......

Victorismyhero wrote:well 'scuse me if my humor doesnt extend that far....
I have lost far too many friends and have friends who have lost loved ones to this vile thing to even consider humor atm.

Oh you are a grumpy old sod! I commended him and donated. I thought it was funny to think of a 99 year old man running off with hookers and everyone’s money.

Jesus

Victorismyhero wrote:

Maddog wrote:

Guess it's good there are people still working on this pandemic, and they have a different opinion.

And a much better attitude.    

WHO now warns that immunity may not be a thing that you can rely on

.

are we still meant to trust what the WHO says?

well, you can if you like

on statistics I wouldnt trust WHO
on scientific advice i'd certainly listen to them....

you been listening to trumpy again?

When this is over,{if I'm still here] , I would like to see where every penny of this Money goes to, cause you can bet your life it wont all go to where I'ts ment to !

When this is over,{if I'm still here] , I would like to see where every penny of this Money goes to, cause you can bet your life it wont all go to where I'ts ment to !

When this is over,{if I'm still here] , I would like to see where every penny of this Money goes to, cause you can bet your life it wont all go to where I'ts ment to !

When this is over,{if I'm still here] , I would like to see where every penny of this Money goes to, cause you can bet your life it wont all go to where I'ts ment to !

When this is over,{if I'm still here] , I would like to see where every penny of this Money goes to, cause you can bet your life it wont all go to where I'ts ment to !

When this is over,{if I'm still here] , I would like to see where every penny of this Money goes to, cause you can bet your life it wont all go to where I'ts ment to !

When this is over,{if I'm still here] , I would like to see where every penny of this Money goes to, cause you can bet your life it wont all go to where I'ts ment to !

WoW nicko...you really meant to say that didnt you..... 7 times

Victorismyhero wrote:on statistics I wouldnt trust WHO
on scientific advice i'd certainly listen to them....

you been listening to trumpy again?

i make a point of not listening to trrumpy

i can't stand the tone of his voice, he always sounds like he's trying to start singing but it's all out of key and it gets on my wick

so no