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Post by Original Quill on Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:14 pm

DJT wrote:"The United States will be powerfully supporting those industries, like Airlines and others, that are particularly affected by the Chinese Virus. We will be stronger than ever before!" he wrote.

Even while he chops programs for food stamps and hot lunches for children. Whatever happened to 'a Vietnamese hen in every pot'.

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Post by Lurker on Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:25 pm

He's catching flack for calling it the "Chinese Virus..."

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Post by eddie on Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:46 pm

Isn’t he now offering $1,000 dollars (or more) to every adult? Seems he’s trying.

Or isn’t that in keeping with the Trump-hatred? Trump's commitment...yesterday 2190311264

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:25 pm

eddie wrote:Isn’t he now offering $1,000 dollars (or more) to every adult? Seems he’s trying.

Or isn’t that in keeping with the Trump-hatred? Trump's commitment...yesterday 2190311264

Trump is avid socialist, yes. He throws money at any problem. Rather simplistic and uncreative.

First, it was midwestern farmers, now it's everyone staying indoors. Rolling Eyes

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Post by 'Wolfie on Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:40 am

eddie wrote:Isn’t he now offering $1,000 dollars (or more) to every adult? Seems he’s trying.

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scratch

Trying to do what , exactly ?

When healthcare and emergency services in the USA these days are effectively under the control of big corporations..

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Post by nicko on Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:27 am

More bullshit from "know it all" !
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Post by Original Quill on Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:48 pm

eddie wrote:Isn’t he now offering $1,000 dollars (or more) to every adult? Seems he’s trying.

Or isn’t that in keeping with the Trump-hatred? Trump's commitment...yesterday 2190311264

That's actually the proposal of Senator Mitt Romney, who ran for president in 2012, Republicans are not clever. Democrats are strategic, and plan aid around programs like school lunches and unemployment insurance. But Republicans go all-crazy Trump's commitment...yesterday 3986371719, and throw out money like it was paper towels.

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Post by 'Wolfie on Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:42 pm

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The Federal Reserve in the USA looks to be preparing for 'pre-emptive' strikes to help the economy over there this week...

Ramping up to release up to $1.3 trillion dollars in stimulus spending -- across handing out cash payments, making zero-interest loans to businesses, increasing gov't spending (especially on healthcare..), providing tax relief, etc.

It may seem a good idea to "give a thousand dollars to everyone" at first glance, but once the admin' comes to their senses, and start listening to the real world experts, that money might be better spent on extending welfare payments for poorer people, giving tax rebates to middle and higher income earners, and encouraging businesses to keep workers on for longer ?

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:48 pm

Where is the Veterans Administration (VA)?  They are the one agency that stockpiles supplies.  They have plenty of masks, protective gear, ventilators, etc.

In fact, where is the military overall?  The Corps of Engineers could be building additions to hospitals and clinics.

Seems like the Trump administration wants to sit on their hands...don't want the problem to go away.

How are Putin and Russia faring in all of this, incidentally? Cool

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Post by Victorismyhero on Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:13 pm

probably better than your lot....
but i'll admit i havnt a clue

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Post by Original Quill on Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:27 pm

Victorismyhero wrote:probably better than your lot....
but i'll admit i havnt a clue

We hear all about South Korea, China, Italy, France and Spain...and now y'all and us. But I've heard nothing about Russia. Not a word. Evil or Very Mad

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Post by Victorismyhero on Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:47 pm

well theres this


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Post by 'Wolfie on Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:58 am

Arrow

As of yesterday, there were nearly 560 cases in Oz,  5 deaths in NSW, 6 nationally  (health is a state issue here (similar to the US of A..), so is reported on a state-by-state basis -- while the fed's look after overall funding, drug supplies, border protection, overall pandemic/endemic controls, etc..).

Restrictions on overseas travel, and incoming tourism, came in this week..

No blanket shutdowns of schools and uni's here --  whether any individual institution or campus closes at the moment is up to the disgression of each administration.

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Post by Original Quill on Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:18 am

It really hasn't hit the southern hemisphere yet.

I still want to hear about Russia. Why is she escaping all of this?

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Post by Lurker on Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:59 pm

I wish Andrew M. Cuomo was our President instead of Trump. He has his shit together and knows what he's talking about. He is a real leader and not an incompetent narcissistic asshole like Trump.

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Post by Maddog on Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:05 pm

Lurker wrote:I wish Andrew M. Cuomo was our President instead of Trump. He has his shit together and knows what he's talking about. He is a real leader and not an incompetent narcissistic asshole like Trump.

Which state has the most infections?

I'll reserve judgement for actual results, not speeches.

Using your criteria, the PM of Italy could be considered a good leader based on his speeches.

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Post by Maddog on Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:08 pm

Victorismyhero wrote:well theres this


Over 700 day before yesterday and at last check they are still counting for yesterday.

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Post by Original Quill on Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:24 pm

Lurker wrote:I wish Andrew M. Cuomo was our President instead of Trump. He has his shit together and knows what he's talking about. He is a real leader and not an incompetent narcissistic asshole like Trump.

Thank you, Lurker.  I've had that thought many, many times as I watch Cuomo's press conferences.  He is able to think in crisis mode, a lot better than the ego-burdened Trump is able to do.

All Trump can do is put out lies and innuendos that something is out there, when in fact it won't be for maybe another 1 & 1/2 years.

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Post by Lurker on Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:31 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Lurker wrote:I wish Andrew M. Cuomo was our President instead of Trump. He has his shit together and knows what he's talking about. He is a real leader and not an incompetent narcissistic asshole like Trump.

Thank you, Lurker.  I've had that thought many, many times as I watch Cuomo's press conferences.  He is able to think in crisis mode, a lot better than the ego-burdened Trump is able to do.

All Trump can do is put out lies and innuendos that something is out there, when in fact it won't be for maybe another 1 & 1/2 years.

I watched Trump's press conference a few minutes ago. it was the most painful thing to watch. Trump reads at a second grade level. The man is illiterate. Pence was a breath of fresh air when he took over. Trump has to be the most stupid President America has ever had.

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Post by Original Quill on Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:09 am

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Thank you, Lurker.  I've had that thought many, many times as I watch Cuomo's press conferences.  He is able to think in crisis mode, a lot better than the ego-burdened Trump is able to do.

All Trump can do is put out lies and innuendos that something is out there, when in fact it won't be for maybe another 1 & 1/2 years.

I watched Trump's press conference a few minutes ago. it was the most painful thing to watch. Trump reads at a second grade level. The man is illiterate. Pence was a breath of fresh air when he took over. Trump has to be the most stupid President America has ever had.

I watched it, but about 2/3's through I had to turn it to another channel. It's the same as with Fox News...I end up asking myself, why are you watching this crap, when it's all lies?

Trump thinks himself sooo cute when he's trying to be civil. He thinks he is succeeding in being liked. He keeps promising, promising, promising things that he knows won't be here for another 2 years. He seems to believe that promises, like denials, are substitute placeholders for reality. Seems someone told him poker chips are real money.

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Post by Lurker on Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:32 am

nicko wrote:More bullshit from "know it all" !

nicko, I'll bet you worshiped Adolf Hitler...

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Post by nicko on Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:28 pm

Don't be a geranium all your life, have a day off occasionally !
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Post by 'Wolfie on Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:23 pm

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nicko wrote:More bullshit from "know it all" !

nicko, I'll bet you worshiped Adolf Hitler...

Laughing

Nicko is a pathetic senile old scumbag...

That lowlife piece of shit was the only person here so whacked, that he couldn't resist trolling my bushfire thread a few weeks ago..

And now, all we see is him again trolling Newsfix, this time around the despicable canute is attacking you, Quill and me, whenever we comment on this pandemic.

Nicko has less than zero to offer, and the conservatives have been in power long enough that nicko, Tommy and co. can no longer blame Labour for all their troubles.. So all that the snowflake 'keyboard warrior' nicko has left now, is to "shoot the messenger" whenever he doesn't like the message...

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Post by Lurker on Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:07 pm

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Lurker wrote:I wish Andrew M. Cuomo was our President instead of Trump. He has his shit together and knows what he's talking about. He is a real leader and not an incompetent narcissistic asshole like Trump.

Which state has the most infections?

I'll reserve judgement for actual results, not speeches.

Using your criteria, the PM of Italy could be considered a good leader based on his speeches.  

It was Trump's fault for dragging his feet and not declaring
a national emergency sooner. Cuomo's hands were tied because of Trump's incompetence.

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Post by Original Quill on Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:18 pm

'Wolfie wrote:
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nicko, I'll bet you worshiped Adolf Hitler...

Laughing

Nicko is a pathetic senile old scumbag...

That lowlife piece of shit was the only person here so whacked, that he couldn't resist trolling my bushfire thread a few weeks ago..

And now, all we see is him again trolling Newsfix, this time around the despicable canute is attacking you, Quill and me, whenever we comment on this pandemic.

Nicko has less than zero to offer, and the conservatives have been in power long enough that nicko, Tommy and co. can no longer blame Labour for all their troubles.. So all that the snowflake 'keyboard warrior' nicko has left now, is to "shoot the messenger" whenever he doesn't like the message...

Ah well, what else can he do? As Lurker said on another thread, the usual rightys are at a loss to defend the incompetence of their Republican and Tory leaders.

With nothing else to do, they are like yipper-dogs, with their falsetto yapping down there at your feet. Shoo them away; they are of no consequence.

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Post by Lurker on Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:33 pm

nicko wrote:Don't be a geranium all your life, have a day off occasionally !

I like geraniums. They are smarter than Trump.

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Post by nicko on Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:02 pm

"Pathetic old scumbag" eh, I wish I could meet you face to face, you'd be eating Hospital food for a month ! YOUR just a shit faced Keyboard Warrior bigging yourself up on the Forum. Bet your a little Bald fellow who, in real life, wouldn't say "boo to a Goose", you make me laugh with your tough talk, you silly little Boy ! Why you haven't been banned from this forum with your history of insults is a mystery !
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nicko wrote:More bullshit from "know it all" !

nicko, I'll bet you worshiped Adolf Hitler...

Laughing

Nicko is a pathetic senile old scumbag...

That lowlife piece of shit was the only person here so whacked, that he couldn't resist trolling my bushfire thread a few weeks ago..

And now, all we see is him again trolling Newsfix, this time around the despicable canute is attacking you, Quill and me, whenever we comment on this pandemic.

Nicko has less than zero to offer, and the conservatives have been in power long enough that nicko, Tommy and co. can no longer blame Labour for all their troubles..  So all that the snowflake 'keyboard warrior' nicko has left now, is to "shoot the messenger" whenever he doesn't like the message...

Quite harsh, Wolfie. Please tone it down. And remember that when you resort to insulting other members, it sounds like you're all out of arguments to make.

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Post by nicko on Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:30 pm

I seem to remember seeing "polite and civil " somewhere, do you remember it Ben ? Perhaps if you came down hard on certain posters ,those who ignore the rules and get away it time after time the membership might increase. why are you so frightened to take action against the biggest offender on here, Namely Wolfie, you know him, the one with the biggest inferiority complex in Oz !
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nicko wrote:I  seem to remember seeing "polite and civil " somewhere, do you remember it Ben ? Perhaps if you came down hard on certain posters ,those who ignore the rules and get away it time after time the membership might increase. why are you so frightened to take action against the  biggest offender on here, Namely Wolfie, you know him, the one with the biggest inferiority complex in Oz !

Nicko, I prefer to use a light touch when moderating and to allow members to solve most of their problems themselves. After all, what offends one person is, to another person, their sacred freedom of speech.

If you're going to cry out against PC, I don't think you should then run to me if someone hurts your feelings -- that's hypocrisy.

That said, I don't want to see Wolfie calling people "senile" or many other slurs he uses. But on the other hand, when I banned the C-word, I got an equal amount of flack for it. So I realize I'm never going to make a decision that everyone here agrees with.

I can only go with what I feel is the best response at the moment. Maybe I'll be wrong, but that's life for a forum owner. I'll just say that people (not just you) should learn that Wolfie isn't fazed by people throwing insults his way, so maybe they should try ignoring him or handling him some other way.

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Post by eddie on Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:01 pm

nicko wrote:I  seem to remember seeing "polite and civil " somewhere, do you remember it Ben ? Perhaps if you came down hard on certain posters ,those who ignore the rules and get away it time after time the membership might increase. why are you so frightened to take action against the  biggest offender on here, Namely Wolfie, you know him, the one with the biggest inferiority complex in Oz !

I find the best way to deal with abuse is to ignore it and stick to my point. After all, if someone gets abusive in a simple debate on a forum then it must mean they’re angry inside and really, doesn’t that tell you something?

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Post by Maddog on Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:23 pm

Lurker wrote:
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Which state has the most infections?

I'll reserve judgement for actual results, not speeches.

Using your criteria, the PM of Italy could be considered a good leader based on his speeches.  

It was Trump's fault for dragging his feet and not declaring
a national emergency sooner. Cuomo's hands were tied because of Trump's incompetence.


No they weren't. A governor never needs a presidents permission to declare a state of emergency.

What do you think of Italy's response? Suspect

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Post by Maddog on Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:29 pm

nicko wrote:I  seem to remember seeing "polite and civil " somewhere, do you remember it Ben ? Perhaps if you came down hard on certain posters ,those who ignore the rules and get away it time after time the membership might increase. why are you so frightened to take action against the  biggest offender on here, Namely Wolfie, you know him, the one with the biggest inferiority complex in Oz !

Block him, ignore him and let him talk to himself.

Then post on other forums when this place gets slow.

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Post by Original Quill on Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:56 pm

The problem with blocking is, it leaves the other party with the last word.

Wolf is a well-educated and smart guy, and when he doesn't have yipper dogs in his face, he posts some of the best posts on here.

Blocking leaves the impression that the other guy ran you off. It's certainly not hurting the blockee...he's busy making his points.

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Post by 'Wolfie on Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:34 pm

Maddog wrote:
nicko wrote:I  seem to remember seeing "polite and civil " somewhere, do you remember it Ben ? Perhaps if you came down hard on certain posters ,those who ignore the rules and get away it time after time the membership might increase. why are you so frightened to take action against the  biggest offender on here, Namely Wolfie, you know him, the one with the biggest inferiority complex in Oz !

Block him, ignore him and let him talk to himself.

Then post on other forums when this place gets slow.  

Rolling Eyes

Nicko quotes "polite and civil"...

Yet nicko is that very same mongrel who has been attacking me, Lurker, Quill, Andy, and occasionally eilzel, all this year (the poor little flower no longer has veya to attack daily, so has to vent his anger elsewhere..).

And let noone forget that nicko was the only person who saw fit to troll my bushfires thread..

As for Fatdogs crap talking -- "Mr Negativity" himself, often pipes up to trying to lay the blame onto me whenever I've been defending myself against attacks from him, nicko or HT in the past..

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