Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
+6
Lurker
nicko
Victorismyhero
Maddog
Ben Reilly
Original Quill
10 posters
NewsFix :: Politics :: Politics - World
Page 1 of 1
Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
During the past decade, and especially this year, those in positions of influence have tried to change the narrative through which society understands itself.
There is an insidious crusade afoot aiming at controlling what the public sees, hears, thinks and believes. This project, which seeks hegemony in various Western cultures, is no less pervasive and thoroughgoing than previous attempts at thought control by totalitarian and theocratic regimes.
But since this campaign to control the narrative has no name, and does not promote an explicit ideology, its significance tends to be underestimated, even by those who oppose the many attempts to police language and thought.
A new identity-obsessed, anti-humanist and anti-civilisational narrative has taken hold. We are increasingly encouraged to change our language, adopt hitherto unknown words, and accept deeply questionable claims.
This campaign has been so successful because its opponents have failed to grasp its significance. Typically, the demands of extreme identitarians are dismissed as either of no significance or as a joke. Take one example that emerged last week.
A group of 16 scientists – from such prestigious universities as Cambridge and Oxford – wrote a letter to the journal Nature denouncing its use of the term ‘quantum supremacy’. This was on the grounds that it conveys racist and colonialist ideas.
They said that, in their view, ‘supremacy’ has ‘overtones of violence, neocolonialism and racism through its association with “white supremacy”’, and demanded that the term be replaced by ‘quantum advantage’.
It is of course tempting to dismiss this as a silly gesture by self-important scientists with too much time on their hands. And that is precisely how many people responded to this ludicrous letter. But its authors are not alone in thinking as they do.
In August, a team at the Human Interface Technology lab in New Zealand asserted that it was problematic that most robots were manufactured out of white plastic, since it smacked of imperialism and white supremacy.
Here we can see how white supremacy has been redefined, turned from a distinct and vicious political ideology into a kind of original sin possessed by all those born with light skin. This is ridiculous, of course, but the impact of this nonsense is no joke.
This redefined notion of white supremacy is now an integral feature of a certain cultural narrative, one that is designed not only to pathologise white people, but also to discredit some of the important legacies of human civilisation.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/12/26/in-2020-we-need-to-fight-the-new-thoughtpolice/
More to read on the link
There is an insidious crusade afoot aiming at controlling what the public sees, hears, thinks and believes. This project, which seeks hegemony in various Western cultures, is no less pervasive and thoroughgoing than previous attempts at thought control by totalitarian and theocratic regimes.
But since this campaign to control the narrative has no name, and does not promote an explicit ideology, its significance tends to be underestimated, even by those who oppose the many attempts to police language and thought.
A new identity-obsessed, anti-humanist and anti-civilisational narrative has taken hold. We are increasingly encouraged to change our language, adopt hitherto unknown words, and accept deeply questionable claims.
This campaign has been so successful because its opponents have failed to grasp its significance. Typically, the demands of extreme identitarians are dismissed as either of no significance or as a joke. Take one example that emerged last week.
A group of 16 scientists – from such prestigious universities as Cambridge and Oxford – wrote a letter to the journal Nature denouncing its use of the term ‘quantum supremacy’. This was on the grounds that it conveys racist and colonialist ideas.
They said that, in their view, ‘supremacy’ has ‘overtones of violence, neocolonialism and racism through its association with “white supremacy”’, and demanded that the term be replaced by ‘quantum advantage’.
It is of course tempting to dismiss this as a silly gesture by self-important scientists with too much time on their hands. And that is precisely how many people responded to this ludicrous letter. But its authors are not alone in thinking as they do.
In August, a team at the Human Interface Technology lab in New Zealand asserted that it was problematic that most robots were manufactured out of white plastic, since it smacked of imperialism and white supremacy.
Here we can see how white supremacy has been redefined, turned from a distinct and vicious political ideology into a kind of original sin possessed by all those born with light skin. This is ridiculous, of course, but the impact of this nonsense is no joke.
This redefined notion of white supremacy is now an integral feature of a certain cultural narrative, one that is designed not only to pathologise white people, but also to discredit some of the important legacies of human civilisation.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/12/26/in-2020-we-need-to-fight-the-new-thoughtpolice/
More to read on the link
Guest- Guest
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
Nonsense. Language is always changing. The PC opponents are always there to oppose any change, yet how would you define Einstein's relativity, without new meanings for words such as 'space' and 'time'. If you only have Newton's three-dimensional world, how do you explain the 11th dimension in modern superstring-theory? https://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/11th-dimension
This is just conservatism for the sake of pulling back without reason. As von Hayek says, it serves to affirmative purpose. https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/articles/hayek-why-i-am-not-conservative.pdf
This is just conservatism for the sake of pulling back without reason. As von Hayek says, it serves to affirmative purpose. https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/articles/hayek-why-i-am-not-conservative.pdf
Original Quill- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 37540
Join date : 2013-12-19
Age : 59
Location : Northern California
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
At the start of 2019, few but the politically committed used the term “woke”. If they’d heard it at all, most people would have assumed it had something to do with insomnia.
“Woke” only entered the Oxford English Dictionary last year as meaning “alert to racial or social discrimination and injustice”. Like its parent “politically correct”, woke is a passion of the urban left. It is PC for the age of LGBTQIA+.
The Guardian suggested “woke” as word of the year, which arguably it should be, though not for the reason it thinks. For woke has changed meaning in the last 12 months, and become a term of derision, referring to a style of self-righteous, right-on thinking favoured by, well, Guardian columnists. It is now used to denote the metropolitan identity politics that contributed to Labour’s greatest defeat since the 1930s.
No-one is sure where the word “woke” came from, except that it emerged from African-American vernacular for “staying alert”, as in “stay woke, brother”. In recent years it was adopted by the BlackLivesMatter movement with their hashtag #staywoke – meaning keeping black issues uppermost on social media.
It was soon adopted by white millennials to emblemise not just racial awareness but a whole identitarian outlook on life. Woke expresses the ultra-feminist, multi-ethnic, gender non-conforming culture fashionable in American and UK campuses.
Woke people love people of colour and loathe “straight white males”, “gammon” and “boomers”. They adore so-called “non-binary” people who claim not to identify with any gender. No-one is quite sure what non-binary means. Do they swing both ways? No, that’s bisexual. Are they transgender? Definitely not, and nor are they intersex. It’s one of life’s mysteries to many folk who are less woke.
Wokeness has recently taken the media and advertising world by storm. Companies eager to keep up with the zeitgeist waste no chance to wave the rainbow flag and include multi-ethnic themes. This is sometimes called “woke-washing”. Every TV advert from McDonald’s to John Lewis now has to feature a multi-racial family, as if the advertisers believe having two white people on one sofa is racism.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18117538.iain-macwhirter-britain-woke-2019---saw-wasnt-nice/?ref=twtrec
“Woke” only entered the Oxford English Dictionary last year as meaning “alert to racial or social discrimination and injustice”. Like its parent “politically correct”, woke is a passion of the urban left. It is PC for the age of LGBTQIA+.
The Guardian suggested “woke” as word of the year, which arguably it should be, though not for the reason it thinks. For woke has changed meaning in the last 12 months, and become a term of derision, referring to a style of self-righteous, right-on thinking favoured by, well, Guardian columnists. It is now used to denote the metropolitan identity politics that contributed to Labour’s greatest defeat since the 1930s.
No-one is sure where the word “woke” came from, except that it emerged from African-American vernacular for “staying alert”, as in “stay woke, brother”. In recent years it was adopted by the BlackLivesMatter movement with their hashtag #staywoke – meaning keeping black issues uppermost on social media.
It was soon adopted by white millennials to emblemise not just racial awareness but a whole identitarian outlook on life. Woke expresses the ultra-feminist, multi-ethnic, gender non-conforming culture fashionable in American and UK campuses.
Woke people love people of colour and loathe “straight white males”, “gammon” and “boomers”. They adore so-called “non-binary” people who claim not to identify with any gender. No-one is quite sure what non-binary means. Do they swing both ways? No, that’s bisexual. Are they transgender? Definitely not, and nor are they intersex. It’s one of life’s mysteries to many folk who are less woke.
Wokeness has recently taken the media and advertising world by storm. Companies eager to keep up with the zeitgeist waste no chance to wave the rainbow flag and include multi-ethnic themes. This is sometimes called “woke-washing”. Every TV advert from McDonald’s to John Lewis now has to feature a multi-racial family, as if the advertisers believe having two white people on one sofa is racism.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18117538.iain-macwhirter-britain-woke-2019---saw-wasnt-nice/?ref=twtrec
Guest- Guest
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
Thorin wrote:UK Labour
Lowest seats since 1935
Austria
Lowest since 1945
Germany
2nd lowest since 1949
France
Lowest ever
Italy
Lowest ever
Netherlands
Lowest ever
Sweden
Lowest since 1908
Finland
2nd lowest since 1962
Maybe it's not just about Brexit?
https://twitter.com/GoodwinMJ/status/1208071725881200641
I rest my case
Guest- Guest
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
You shouldn't rest your case just yet:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/09/07/alleged-russian-political-meddling-documented-27-countries-since-2004/619056001/
Amazing how many of the countries on your list appear on USA Today's list of countries in which Russia has meddled with elections.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/09/07/alleged-russian-political-meddling-documented-27-countries-since-2004/619056001/
Amazing how many of the countries on your list appear on USA Today's list of countries in which Russia has meddled with elections.
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
Ben Reilly wrote:You shouldn't rest your case just yet:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/09/07/alleged-russian-political-meddling-documented-27-countries-since-2004/619056001/
Amazing how many of the countries on your list appear on USA Today's list of countries in which Russia has meddled with elections.
I will definitely rest my case. In that the left are continually in denial
They like you use, every distraction in the book. To place blame elsewhere, when its under your very nose
Thank you again for proving my point
Guest- Guest
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
Thorin wrote:Ben Reilly wrote:You shouldn't rest your case just yet:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/09/07/alleged-russian-political-meddling-documented-27-countries-since-2004/619056001/
Amazing how many of the countries on your list appear on USA Today's list of countries in which Russia has meddled with elections.
I will definitely rest my case. In that the left are continually in denial
They like you use, every distraction in the book. To place blame elsewhere, when its under your very nose
Thank you again for proving my point
^ He's right you know.
Maddog- The newsfix Queen
- Posts : 12532
Join date : 2017-09-23
Location : Texas
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
so far not ONE shred of definative evidence has been presented, which properly indicts Russia of political meddling, particularly in the case of computer meddling.
there is nothing in a computer trail that cannot, by suitably skilled "hackers" be ghosted, copied, diverted, hidden or spoofed.
secondly I agree with didge....the liberalists are getting increasingly, at an increasing rate, more illiberal by the second.
I mean the white plastic robot....ffs, how many "white people" do you know that are actually WHITE, like that white plastic? is my washing machine racist because its painted white?
and all the other "white" goods are they white because the manufacturers are all racist, or could it be that white is a good colour choice because its easy to see its clean, and looks clean and tidy? and fits in with almost almost ALL decors?
does that make the world and its dog racist because white is a "clean tidy colour"?
would it not be the case that if we made them black or brown, it would be seen as racist becasue they are our "servants"
ALL these cretins want to do is IMPOSE their tiny minded pathetic interpretations on everyone else. Its a form of soft dictatorship....control how people speak and you control how they think....dead simple, and its about time the rest of the world woke up to it and stopped it dead in its tracks.
AS FOR WOKE....well, tommy has often made the point about the lgbtqascxvhytgip lot demanding special treatment, and been shouted down for it...well isnt that stupid word EXACTLY that, demanding, no. dictating, what and how folks can express themselves? Me, i no longer have time for it, so for ALL I no longer will say excuse me miss or excuse me madam/sir...and since merely "excuse me" is a recipie for being ignored since everyone assumes you mean someone else...I just shove em out the way
lets face it
you cant say excuse me miss or madam
you cant say excuse me mate/bud
and mere excuse me is ignored for the reason i gave.
about the only thing left is "oi you! shift!"
If I say miss and it turns out to be a kettle with tits.....HARD LUCK...i'm not bloody psychic, if you have tits, a pretty feminine face and soft curves...you are a "miss" like it or lump it...UNLESS you wear a sign that says "I am a kettle"
I dont CARE what you identify as internally.....I cant see that and cannot be expected to know that, what you SHOULD UNDERSTAND IS THAT YOU ARE A SMALL minority, and you are spoiling civil society for the majority of soft curvy pretty beings who are, actually, "miss" and who, strange as it may seem to you misfits, actually want to be addressed and treated as such.
there is nothing in a computer trail that cannot, by suitably skilled "hackers" be ghosted, copied, diverted, hidden or spoofed.
secondly I agree with didge....the liberalists are getting increasingly, at an increasing rate, more illiberal by the second.
I mean the white plastic robot....ffs, how many "white people" do you know that are actually WHITE, like that white plastic? is my washing machine racist because its painted white?
and all the other "white" goods are they white because the manufacturers are all racist, or could it be that white is a good colour choice because its easy to see its clean, and looks clean and tidy? and fits in with almost almost ALL decors?
does that make the world and its dog racist because white is a "clean tidy colour"?
would it not be the case that if we made them black or brown, it would be seen as racist becasue they are our "servants"
ALL these cretins want to do is IMPOSE their tiny minded pathetic interpretations on everyone else. Its a form of soft dictatorship....control how people speak and you control how they think....dead simple, and its about time the rest of the world woke up to it and stopped it dead in its tracks.
AS FOR WOKE....well, tommy has often made the point about the lgbtqascxvhytgip lot demanding special treatment, and been shouted down for it...well isnt that stupid word EXACTLY that, demanding, no. dictating, what and how folks can express themselves? Me, i no longer have time for it, so for ALL I no longer will say excuse me miss or excuse me madam/sir...and since merely "excuse me" is a recipie for being ignored since everyone assumes you mean someone else...I just shove em out the way
lets face it
you cant say excuse me miss or madam
you cant say excuse me mate/bud
and mere excuse me is ignored for the reason i gave.
about the only thing left is "oi you! shift!"
If I say miss and it turns out to be a kettle with tits.....HARD LUCK...i'm not bloody psychic, if you have tits, a pretty feminine face and soft curves...you are a "miss" like it or lump it...UNLESS you wear a sign that says "I am a kettle"
I dont CARE what you identify as internally.....I cant see that and cannot be expected to know that, what you SHOULD UNDERSTAND IS THAT YOU ARE A SMALL minority, and you are spoiling civil society for the majority of soft curvy pretty beings who are, actually, "miss" and who, strange as it may seem to you misfits, actually want to be addressed and treated as such.
Victorismyhero- INTERNAL SECURITY DIRECTOR
- Posts : 11441
Join date : 2015-11-06
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
the left have latched onto this for a very specific reason you know.
It appeals to a number of would be voters, all their other policies being a busted flush it is their last gasp attempt to hold onto some sort of twisted legitimacy
It appeals to a number of would be voters, all their other policies being a busted flush it is their last gasp attempt to hold onto some sort of twisted legitimacy
Victorismyhero- INTERNAL SECURITY DIRECTOR
- Posts : 11441
Join date : 2015-11-06
nicko- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 13368
Join date : 2013-12-07
Age : 83
Location : rainbow bridge
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
Victor wrote:so far not ONE shred of definative evidence has been presented, which properly indicts Russia of political meddling, particularly in the case of computer meddling.
Nonsense. The US Air Force Intelligence, Army Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, Coast Guard Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency, Energy Department, Homeland Security Department, State Department, Treasury Department, Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Marine Corps Intelligence, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, Navy Intelligence and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, all agree with the CIA, FBI, NSA and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, which is an umbrella agency that oversees all 17 organizations, all say that the January [2019] intelligence assessment about Russia’s interference in the election actually happened.
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/jul/06/17-intelligence-organizations-or-four-either-way-r/
In addition, Thirteen Russian nationals and three entities, including the Internet Research Agency (a division of the Russian Army), were indicted in February 2018.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/25/muellers-russia-report-special-counsel-indictments-charges/3266050002/
Denial is a river in East Africa, vic. It has no place in the face of real facts.
Original Quill- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 37540
Join date : 2013-12-19
Age : 59
Location : Northern California
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
The world has gone mad.
Lurker- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 8422
Join date : 2013-01-20
Location : Tennessee
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
Looks like some on here have been getting what I've been saying, all this time...
And... it is not that hard for computer techy people to send stuff out on the internet and make it look like it is being sent from wherever in the world they want...
And it is easy for others to lie about origins of stuff on internet too...
Tommy Monk- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 26319
Join date : 2014-02-12
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
Original Quill wrote:Victor wrote:so far not ONE shred of definative evidence has been presented, which properly indicts Russia of political meddling, particularly in the case of computer meddling.
Nonsense. The US Air Force Intelligence, Army Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, Coast Guard Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency, Energy Department, Homeland Security Department, State Department, Treasury Department, Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Marine Corps Intelligence, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, Navy Intelligence and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, all agree with the CIA, FBI, NSA and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, which is an umbrella agency that oversees all 17 organizations, all say that the January [2019] intelligence assessment about Russia’s interference in the election actually happened.
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/jul/06/17-intelligence-organizations-or-four-either-way-r/
In addition, Thirteen Russian nationals and three entities, including the Internet Research Agency (a division of the Russian Army), were indicted in February 2018.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/25/muellers-russia-report-special-counsel-indictments-charges/3266050002/
Denial is a river in East Africa, vic. It has no place in the face of real facts.
and like ours, doubtless YOUR govt always tells the truth...like WMD's eh?
Victorismyhero- INTERNAL SECURITY DIRECTOR
- Posts : 11441
Join date : 2015-11-06
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
“Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.”
Been happening for a long time. Only just realised it because an article says so?
Look around. Listen. Read.
It’s fucking obvious.
Been happening for a long time. Only just realised it because an article says so?
Look around. Listen. Read.
It’s fucking obvious.
eddie- King of Beards. Keeper of the Whip. Top Chef. BEES!!!!!! Mushroom muncher. Spider aficionado!
- Posts : 43129
Join date : 2013-07-28
Age : 25
Location : England
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
Victorismyhero wrote:so far not ONE shred of definative evidence has been presented, which properly indicts Russia of political meddling, particularly in the case of computer meddling.
there is nothing in a computer trail that cannot, by suitably skilled "hackers" be ghosted, copied, diverted, hidden or spoofed.
secondly I agree with didge....the liberalists are getting increasingly, at an increasing rate, more illiberal by the second.
I mean the white plastic robot....ffs, how many "white people" do you know that are actually WHITE, like that white plastic? is my washing machine racist because its painted white?
and all the other "white" goods are they white because the manufacturers are all racist, or could it be that white is a good colour choice because its easy to see its clean, and looks clean and tidy? and fits in with almost almost ALL decors?
does that make the world and its dog racist because white is a "clean tidy colour"?
would it not be the case that if we made them black or brown, it would be seen as racist becasue they are our "servants"
ALL these cretins want to do is IMPOSE their tiny minded pathetic interpretations on everyone else. Its a form of soft dictatorship....control how people speak and you control how they think....dead simple, and its about time the rest of the world woke up to it and stopped it dead in its tracks.
AS FOR WOKE....well, tommy has often made the point about the lgbtqascxvhytgip lot demanding special treatment, and been shouted down for it...well isnt that stupid word EXACTLY that, demanding, no. dictating, what and how folks can express themselves? Me, i no longer have time for it, so for ALL I no longer will say excuse me miss or excuse me madam/sir...and since merely "excuse me" is a recipie for being ignored since everyone assumes you mean someone else...I just shove em out the way
lets face it
you cant say excuse me miss or madam
you cant say excuse me mate/bud
and mere excuse me is ignored for the reason i gave.
about the only thing left is "oi you! shift!"
If I say miss and it turns out to be a kettle with tits.....HARD LUCK...i'm not bloody psychic, if you have tits, a pretty feminine face and soft curves...you are a "miss" like it or lump it...UNLESS you wear a sign that says "I am a kettle"
I dont CARE what you identify as internally.....I cant see that and cannot be expected to know that, what you SHOULD UNDERSTAND IS THAT YOU ARE A SMALL minority, and you are spoiling civil society for the majority of soft curvy pretty beings who are, actually, "miss" and who, strange as it may seem to you misfits, actually want to be addressed and treated as such.
+1
Guest- Guest
Tommy Monk- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 26319
Join date : 2014-02-12
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
eddie wrote:“Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.”
Been happening for a long time. Only just realised it because an article says so?
Look around. Listen. Read.
It’s fucking obvious.
People have been saying about it for a long time...
Have you only just started hearing...?
Tommy Monk- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 26319
Join date : 2014-02-12
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
Isn't "terrifying" in the title a bit histrionic?
Do you have an ever present terror of 'lefties' hiding behind every hedge/privet/bush waiting to ambush you and force you to change your speech, Didge? Do you always check under your bed for lefties before you sleep -and then sleep with one eye open just in case?
That is, in addition to you spamming the living shit out of any forum which lets you, with anti-leftie crap.
In the liberal circles I move in, I have never been corrected in how I speak and I certainly don't go out of my way to be PC. I just find simple politeness more than adequate in all situations.
Quill often remarks on how some people habitually generalise from specifics. Anyone whose hobby is scouring the interweb looking for things to rant about will most definitely find plenty. Crazy/extreme people are always up to something.
I'm guessing that the people who come up with all these new ways of saying things are looking for attention and excitable people like you, Didge, certainly don't disappoint, you give them plenty.
Do you have an ever present terror of 'lefties' hiding behind every hedge/privet/bush waiting to ambush you and force you to change your speech, Didge? Do you always check under your bed for lefties before you sleep -and then sleep with one eye open just in case?
That is, in addition to you spamming the living shit out of any forum which lets you, with anti-leftie crap.
In the liberal circles I move in, I have never been corrected in how I speak and I certainly don't go out of my way to be PC. I just find simple politeness more than adequate in all situations.
Quill often remarks on how some people habitually generalise from specifics. Anyone whose hobby is scouring the interweb looking for things to rant about will most definitely find plenty. Crazy/extreme people are always up to something.
I'm guessing that the people who come up with all these new ways of saying things are looking for attention and excitable people like you, Didge, certainly don't disappoint, you give them plenty.
JulesV- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 4275
Join date : 2016-07-30
Location : Vantage Point
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
In Boris's brave new world, I'm shocked that anyone is ''terrified'' of anything anymore.
Why not use him as your inspiration and speak the way he speaks. Eg he called children of single parents 'illbred and ignorant'. And said gay men were 'tank topped bum boys', .....I could give you several of examples of him speaking in a bold, nonPC style.
Don't let those big bad lefties cramp your style, honey.
Why not use him as your inspiration and speak the way he speaks. Eg he called children of single parents 'illbred and ignorant'. And said gay men were 'tank topped bum boys', .....I could give you several of examples of him speaking in a bold, nonPC style.
Don't let those big bad lefties cramp your style, honey.
JulesV- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 4275
Join date : 2016-07-30
Location : Vantage Point
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
JulesV wrote:In Boris's brave new world, I'm shocked that anyone is ''terrified'' of anything anymore.
Why not use him as your inspiration and speak the way he speaks. Eg he called children of single parents 'illbred and ignorant'. And said gay men were 'tank topped bum boys', .....I could give you several of examples of him speaking in a bold, nonPC style.
Don't let those big bad lefties cramp your style, honey.
I dont think people have completely stopped saying boorish things. It's just thre reaction is far different now.
Maddog- The newsfix Queen
- Posts : 12532
Join date : 2017-09-23
Location : Texas
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
JulesV wrote:Isn't "terrifying" in the title a bit histrionic?
Do you have an ever present terror of 'lefties' hiding behind every hedge/privet/bush waiting to ambush you and force you to change your speech, Didge? Do you always check under your bed for lefties before you sleep -and then sleep with one eye open just in case?
That is, in addition to you spamming the living shit out of any forum which lets you, with anti-leftie crap.
In the liberal circles I move in, I have never been corrected in how I speak and I certainly don't go out of my way to be PC. I just find simple politeness more than adequate in all situations.
Quill often remarks on how some people habitually generalise from specifics. Anyone whose hobby is scouring the interweb looking for things to rant about will most definitely find plenty. Crazy/extreme people are always up to something.
I'm guessing that the people who come up with all these new ways of saying things are looking for attention and excitable people like you, Didge, certainly don't disappoint, you give them plenty.
What more proof does anyone further need of the left being in complete denial, than yet again with the above
They were in denial with the election and they are in denial now to the problems that inhabit the left of today and you are living proof of that Jules
So no, I do not hide under the bed but openly speak out on how I see the problems of today
What i do not do, like you , as play down issues
So you can continue to bury your head like the other leftists on here
Thankfully others are starting to wake up to this bullshit
Also I am not anti-left, being as my social views form from the left
The left that I speak of that we see today is devoid of liberalism and holds the most illiberal views.
I mean I posted two articles here and what did the left wing posters do?
Do everything to deflect from the problems that inhabit the left
Clearly showing that the likes of you, Ben and Quill suffer from ostrich parasitic syndrome
Guest- Guest
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
Speaking of 'reaction', has Didge reacted yet to the hordes of far right politicians & voters stampeding to join the Tories party? Or is he too busy foutraging about the stuff liberal extremists get up to, to even notice?
He is sooo pathetically biased, it's unreal.
He is sooo pathetically biased, it's unreal.
JulesV- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 4275
Join date : 2016-07-30
Location : Vantage Point
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
JulesV wrote:Speaking of 'reaction', has Didge reacted yet to the hordes of far right politicians & voters stampeding to join the Tories party? Or is he too busy foutraging about the stuff liberal extremists get up to, to even notice?
He is sooo pathetically biased, it's unreal.
I do not support the Tories
Am i concerned?
Absolutely
Anything else?
Guest- Guest
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
Come off it Didge... you've often said that you are a Tory supporter...
Anyway...
Tommy Monk- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 26319
Join date : 2014-02-12
Tommy Monk- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 26319
Join date : 2014-02-12
Tommy Monk- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 26319
Join date : 2014-02-12
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
JulesV wrote:Speaking of 'reaction', has Didge reacted yet to the hordes of far right politicians & voters stampeding to join the Tories party? Or is he too busy foutraging about the stuff liberal extremists get up to, to even notice?
He is sooo pathetically biased, it's unreal.
Can you show any proof of your claim of all these hoards of far right people/politicians joining the tory party...!!!???
Or are you just talking absolute shite... as usual...!!!???
Tommy Monk- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 26319
Join date : 2014-02-12
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
Victorismyhero wrote:Original Quill wrote:
Nonsense. The US Air Force Intelligence, Army Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, Coast Guard Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency, Energy Department, Homeland Security Department, State Department, Treasury Department, Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Marine Corps Intelligence, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, Navy Intelligence and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, all agree with the CIA, FBI, NSA and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, which is an umbrella agency that oversees all 17 organizations, all say that the January [2019] intelligence assessment about Russia’s interference in the election actually happened.
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/jul/06/17-intelligence-organizations-or-four-either-way-r/
In addition, Thirteen Russian nationals and three entities, including the Internet Research Agency (a division of the Russian Army), were indicted in February 2018.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/25/muellers-russia-report-special-counsel-indictments-charges/3266050002/
Denial is a river in East Africa, vic. It has no place in the face of real facts.
and like ours, doubtless YOUR govt always tells the truth...like WMD's eh?
Who do you believe? Our government, or a Russian government which is run by a criminal organization? One thing you can depend on, Victor, crooks always lie.
Original Quill- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 37540
Join date : 2013-12-19
Age : 59
Location : Northern California
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
I was not speaking to you, I don't speak to obnoxious gaslighting twats.Tommy Monk wrote:
Can you show any proof of your claim of all these hoards of far right people/politicians joining the tory party...!!!???
Or are you just talking absolute shite... as usual...!!!???
You habitually spout a load of absolute shite hence you are frequently challenged by several members on here.
JulesV- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 4275
Join date : 2016-07-30
Location : Vantage Point
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
How the hell do I "PROVE" anything?
I can only make a judgement based on the integrity of the papers which report this info, and based on how many independent sources have reported the same thing.
The wording in the links themselves, says everything "flooding", "infiltrating". And it was the leaders of the two far right parties themselves who tweeted/emailed the info that the press reported. It's not hearsay. Plus Katie Hopkins who isn't the leader of any party-even UKIP rejected her. Feel free to call all 3 of them lying twats if you wish.
Links:
https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/28/far-right-group-britain-first-says-5000-members-joined-tories-11970687/
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/far-right-figures-flooding-to-the-conservative-party/19/12/
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/28/britain-first-far-right-members-5000-have-joined-tories
https://tompride.wordpress.com/2018/08/24/racists-and-antisemites-openly-infiltrating-tory-party-to-vote-for-leader/
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/brexit/2019/10/brexit-revolutionaries
Assorted excerpts from the links:
"TommyRobinson said he had become a fully paid up member "OK I have joined the Conservative Party. If you haven’t joined yet, we urge you to do so immediately"
“Senior Britain First officials and rank-and-file members have been receiving their Conservative membership cards in the post"
"Nick Boles, who was MP for Grantham and Stamford, said. “There has been a systematic operation of infiltration into the Tory party"
"In February 2019, Conservative MP David Gauke noticed something strange happening in his constituency of South West Hertfordshire."
"Not only had there been an unusual influx of new members over the previous year, but a campaign was being organised to oust him from his parliamentary seat".
I can only make a judgement based on the integrity of the papers which report this info, and based on how many independent sources have reported the same thing.
The wording in the links themselves, says everything "flooding", "infiltrating". And it was the leaders of the two far right parties themselves who tweeted/emailed the info that the press reported. It's not hearsay. Plus Katie Hopkins who isn't the leader of any party-even UKIP rejected her. Feel free to call all 3 of them lying twats if you wish.
Links:
https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/28/far-right-group-britain-first-says-5000-members-joined-tories-11970687/
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/far-right-figures-flooding-to-the-conservative-party/19/12/
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/28/britain-first-far-right-members-5000-have-joined-tories
https://tompride.wordpress.com/2018/08/24/racists-and-antisemites-openly-infiltrating-tory-party-to-vote-for-leader/
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/brexit/2019/10/brexit-revolutionaries
Assorted excerpts from the links:
"TommyRobinson said he had become a fully paid up member "OK I have joined the Conservative Party. If you haven’t joined yet, we urge you to do so immediately"
“Senior Britain First officials and rank-and-file members have been receiving their Conservative membership cards in the post"
"Nick Boles, who was MP for Grantham and Stamford, said. “There has been a systematic operation of infiltration into the Tory party"
"In February 2019, Conservative MP David Gauke noticed something strange happening in his constituency of South West Hertfordshire."
"Not only had there been an unusual influx of new members over the previous year, but a campaign was being organised to oust him from his parliamentary seat".
Last edited by JulesV on Sun Dec 29, 2019 1:33 pm; edited 2 times in total
JulesV- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 4275
Join date : 2016-07-30
Location : Vantage Point
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
Thorin wrote:
I do not support the Tories
Am i concerned? Absolutely
Anything else?
Good! At least we agree on something.
JulesV- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 4275
Join date : 2016-07-30
Location : Vantage Point
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
We know that Tommy has established himself as NF's resident neo-nazi defender and apologist...
As seen by his past history of defending his beloved BNP, and occasionally that odious EDL sewer..
And his semi-regular revisionist efforts at portraying Hitler and Mussolini as "left wing" dicktators -- anything to deflect attention from his own pro-nazi inclinations.
'Wolfie- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 8189
Join date : 2016-02-24
Age : 66
Location : Lake Macquarie, NSW, Australia
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
Russia elected their dotard spy (agent), Donald Trump, by hacking our very vulnerable voting machines all over the US. It's a proven fact. They will do it again next election because the Republicans will make sure it is a rigged election. We can't do anything about it because the Republican crime family is in charge.
Lurker- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 8422
Join date : 2013-01-20
Location : Tennessee
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
Lurker wrote:Russia elected their dotard spy (agent), Donald Trump, by hacking our very vulnerable voting machines all over the US. It's a proven fact. They will do it again next election because the Republicans will make sure it is a rigged election. We can't do anything about it because the Republican crime family is in charge.
Were they less vulnerable in 2018?
Maddog- The newsfix Queen
- Posts : 12532
Join date : 2017-09-23
Location : Texas
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
'Wolfie wrote:
We know that Tommy has established himself as NF's resident neo-nazi defender and apologist...
As seen by his past history of defending his beloved BNP, and occasionally that odious EDL sewer..
And his semi-regular revisionist efforts at portraying Hitler and Mussolini as "left wing" dicktators -- anything to deflect attention from his own pro-nazi inclinations.
I have never defended tha BNP... and they are a far left nationalist socialist party... just look at their policies...
And Tommy Robinson and EDL are not far right either... they are not a political organisation, as such, but a protest group who are warning against the dangers of mass Muslim immigration and and raising awareness about the huge number of dangerous Muslim gangs of child rapists...
Tommy Monk- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 26319
Join date : 2014-02-12
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
JulesV wrote:How the hell do I "PROVE" anything?
I can only make a judgement based on the integrity of the papers which report this info, and based on how many independent sources have reported the same thing.
The wording in the links themselves, says everything "flooding", "infiltrating". And it was the leaders of the two far right parties themselves who tweeted/emailed the info that the press reported. It's not hearsay. Plus Katie Hopkins who isn't the leader of any party-even UKIP rejected her. Feel free to call all 3 of them lying twats if you wish.
Links:
https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/28/far-right-group-britain-first-says-5000-members-joined-tories-11970687/
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/far-right-figures-flooding-to-the-conservative-party/19/12/
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/28/britain-first-far-right-members-5000-have-joined-tories
https://tompride.wordpress.com/2018/08/24/racists-and-antisemites-openly-infiltrating-tory-party-to-vote-for-leader/
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/brexit/2019/10/brexit-revolutionaries
Assorted excerpts from the links:
"TommyRobinson said he had become a fully paid up member "OK I have joined the Conservative Party. If you haven’t joined yet, we urge you to do so immediately"
“Senior Britain First officials and rank-and-file members have been receiving their Conservative membership cards in the post"
"Nick Boles, who was MP for Grantham and Stamford, said. “There has been a systematic operation of infiltration into the Tory party"
"In February 2019, Conservative MP David Gauke noticed something strange happening in his constituency of South West Hertfordshire."
"Not only had there been an unusual influx of new members over the previous year, but a campaign was being organised to oust him from his parliamentary seat".
If you believe that lefty propaganda then you need your head examined to see where your brain has disappeared to...!
Tommy Monk- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 26319
Join date : 2014-02-12
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
A Donald Trump party response....If you believe that lefty propaganda then you need your head examined to see where your brain has disappeared to...!
Lurker- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 8422
Join date : 2013-01-20
Location : Tennessee
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
Lurker wrote:A Donald Trump party response....If you believe that lefty propaganda then you need your head examined to see where your brain has disappeared to...!
Did the Russians rig the 2018 elections?
Maddog- The newsfix Queen
- Posts : 12532
Join date : 2017-09-23
Location : Texas
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
Maddog wrote:Lurker wrote:
A Donald Trump party response....
Did the Russians rig the 2018 elections?
They tried. The one thing that defeats the Russian manipulators is an overwhelming voter response.
The Internet Research Agency (IRA) of the Russian Army tinkers with more remote strategies like targeting the electoral college, and strategically selected voter machines in backward states, and in less technically advanced districts. They work in quiet, predictable backwaters. The measure of the quietude determines their effectiveness. IRA manipulations are inevitably incremental, and can be overwhelmed by an unpredictable flood of voters acting with the same sentiment and purpose. This is what happened in 2018 elections.
If you want the particulars, buy and read a book by Luke Harding, titled Collusion: Secret Meetings, Dirty Money, and How Russia Helped Donald Trump Win (2017). It has the whole story in documented detail. https://www.amazon.com/Collusion-Secret-Meetings-Russia-Helped/dp/0525562516
See also, “The Cambridge Analytica Files: I Made Steve Bannon’s Psychological warfare Tool: Meet the Data War Whistleblower”, in The Guardian (17 March 2018).
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/17/data-war-whistleblower-christopher-wylie-faceook-nix-bannon-trump
Original Quill- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 37540
Join date : 2013-12-19
Age : 59
Location : Northern California
Re: Speech, thought and culture are being policed on a terrifying scale.
Tommy Monk wrote:JulesV wrote:How the hell do I "PROVE" anything?
I can only make a judgement based on the integrity of the papers which report this info, and based on how many independent sources have reported the same thing.
The wording in the links themselves, says everything "flooding", "infiltrating". And it was the leaders of the two far right parties themselves who tweeted/emailed the info that the press reported. It's not hearsay. Plus Katie Hopkins who isn't the leader of any party-even UKIP rejected her. Feel free to call all 3 of them lying twats if you wish.
Links:
https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/28/far-right-group-britain-first-says-5000-members-joined-tories-11970687/
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/far-right-figures-flooding-to-the-conservative-party/19/12/
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/28/britain-first-far-right-members-5000-have-joined-tories
https://tompride.wordpress.com/2018/08/24/racists-and-antisemites-openly-infiltrating-tory-party-to-vote-for-leader/
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/brexit/2019/10/brexit-revolutionaries
Assorted excerpts from the links:
"TommyRobinson said he had become a fully paid up member "OK I have joined the Conservative Party. If you haven’t joined yet, we urge you to do so immediately"
“Senior Britain First officials and rank-and-file members have been receiving their Conservative membership cards in the post"
"Nick Boles, who was MP for Grantham and Stamford, said. “There has been a systematic operation of infiltration into the Tory party"
"In February 2019, Conservative MP David Gauke noticed something strange happening in his constituency of South West Hertfordshire."
"Not only had there been an unusual influx of new members over the previous year, but a campaign was being organised to oust him from his parliamentary seat".
If you believe that lefty propaganda then you need your head examined to see where your brain has disappeared to...!
Tommy Monk...
Neo-nazi fuckwit of the week..
Still drunk with the euphoria from learning that some 5,000+ of his fellow BNP fuckwit fascists have joined the Tories in recent weeks.
Way to go, you anti-worker, anti-welfare, anti-education, pro-corporatist mongrels..
'Wolfie- Forum Detective ????♀️
- Posts : 8189
Join date : 2016-02-24
Age : 66
Location : Lake Macquarie, NSW, Australia
Similar topics
» Lindsay Shepherd - Free Speech & Victimhood Culture
» Woke 'cancel culture' is a form of bullying and 'no platforming' an attack on free speech, pupils will be taught
» Manchester Policed By Only Four Officers At Times - Cannot Guarantee Safety
» Defending women's rights in Sports. Is now considered hate speech in Australia- Free speech ‘in play’ over women’s sport
» Defra: Air Pollution Levels To Top The Scale
» Woke 'cancel culture' is a form of bullying and 'no platforming' an attack on free speech, pupils will be taught
» Manchester Policed By Only Four Officers At Times - Cannot Guarantee Safety
» Defending women's rights in Sports. Is now considered hate speech in Australia- Free speech ‘in play’ over women’s sport
» Defra: Air Pollution Levels To Top The Scale
NewsFix :: Politics :: Politics - World
Page 1 of 1
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Sat Mar 18, 2023 12:28 pm by Ben Reilly
» TOTAL MADNESS Great British Railway Journeys among shows flagged by counter terror scheme ‘for encouraging far-right sympathies
Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:14 pm by Tommy Monk
» Interesting COVID figures
Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:00 am by Tommy Monk
» HAPPY CHRISTMAS.
Sun Jan 01, 2023 7:33 pm by Tommy Monk
» The Fight Over Climate Change is Over (The Greenies Won!)
Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:59 pm by Tommy Monk
» Trump supporter murders wife, kills family dog, shoots daughter
Mon Dec 12, 2022 1:21 am by 'Wolfie
» Quill
Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:28 pm by Tommy Monk
» Algerian Woman under investigation for torture and murder of French girl, 12, whose body was found in plastic case in Paris
Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:04 pm by Tommy Monk
» Wind turbines cool down the Earth (edited with better video link)
Sun Oct 16, 2022 9:19 am by Ben Reilly
» Saying goodbye to our Queen.
Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:02 pm by Maddog
» PHEW.
Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:33 pm by Syl
» And here's some more enrichment...
Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:46 pm by Ben Reilly
» John F Kennedy Assassination
Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:40 pm by Ben Reilly
» Where is everyone lately...?
Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:33 pm by Ben Reilly
» London violence over the weekend...
Mon Sep 05, 2022 2:19 pm by Tommy Monk
» Why should anyone believe anything that Mo Farah says...!?
Wed Jul 13, 2022 1:44 am by Tommy Monk
» Liverpool Labour defends mayor role poll after turnout was only 3% and they say they will push ahead with the option that was least preferred!!!
Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:11 pm by Tommy Monk
» Labour leader Keir Stammer can't answer the simple question of whether a woman has a penis or not...
Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:58 am by Tommy Monk
» More evidence of remoaners still trying to overturn Brexit... and this is a conservative MP who should be drummed out of the party and out of parliament!
Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:50 pm by Tommy Monk
» R Kelly 30 years, Ghislaine Maxwell 20 years... but here in UK...
Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:31 pm by Original Quill