BoJo in '95: Children of single mothers are "ill-raised, ignorant, aggressive and illegitimate"

Boris Johnson described the children of single mothers as “ill-raised, ignorant, aggressive and illegitimate” in a newly unearthed article which Labour has claimed shows the prime minister’s “dark-age” attitudes towards women.
In a column written for The Spectator, the Tory leader said it was “outrageous that married couples should pay for ‘the single mothers’ desire to procreate independently of men”.
And he suggested it was “feeble” for a man to be unable or unwilling to “take control of his woman”, arguing Britain needed to “restore women’s desire to be married”.

Ben Reilly wrote:Judging from that photo and many others, he was raised by a single mother -- certainly looks, and sounds, "ill-raised, ignorant and aggressive" to me.

nicko wrote:Les, if Corbyn wins it'll be a crime against Humanity !

Eilzel wrote:He says it was out of context and deliberately sensational because he was writing for a newspaper.

I think he's an elitist who thinks he can say what he likes because he is above the rest. If he'd apologise for any of it (along with his homophobic, racist and Islamophobic comments) it might make a difference. But he doesn't, cause as far as he's concerned he shouldn't have to.

If he wins, it'll be a crime against decency.

phildidge wrote:

Eilzel wrote:He says it was out of context and deliberately sensational because he was writing for a newspaper.

I think he's an elitist who thinks he can say what he likes because he is above the rest. If he'd apologise for any of it (along with his homophobic, racist and Islamophobic comments) it might make a difference. But he doesn't, cause as far as he's concerned he shouldn't have to.

If he wins, it'll be a crime against decency.

I think Boris is a sexist cock and shoul apologise, but you the other day said Corbyn should not apologise to the Jewish people did you not.?? Meaning you believe he is innocent. Even though he has failed them. And failed to tackle antisemitism in the party. Sorry you come across as the biggest hypocritical fuckwit these days. I dislike both Corbyn and Boris and yet I am able to condemn him for his views. Yet you go out of your way to defend Corbyn

Which makes your views above the biggest load of double standards going. Where at every courner I would defend you against any hate thrown towards the homosexual community. You are litterally willing to throw Jews under the Bus and even worse discount their concerns. Frankly I have lost all respect for you

When you apologise to the Jewish people for not only discounting their concerns and down playing them. Then maybe I will start listening and respecting you again. Until then, you are no better than Corbyn and Boris

Eilzel wrote:

phildidge wrote:

I think Boris is a sexist cock and shoul apologise, but you the other day said Corbyn should not apologise to the Jewish people did you not.?? Meaning you believe he is innocent. Even though he has failed them. And failed to tackle antisemitism in the party. Sorry you come across as the biggest hypocritical fuckwit these days. I dislike both Corbyn and Boris and yet I am able to condemn him for his views. Yet you go out of your way to defend Corbyn

Which makes your views above the biggest load of double standards going. Where at every courner I would defend you against any hate thrown towards the homosexual community. You are litterally willing to throw Jews under the Bus and even worse discount their concerns. Frankly I have lost all respect for you

When you apologise to the Jewish people for not only discounting their concerns and down playing them. Then maybe I will start listening and respecting you again. Until then, you are no better than Corbyn and Boris

You'll find it again

I said Corbyn shouldn't have apologised in THAT interview, under the line of questioning, because of how it would've been used.
Corbyn has apologised in the past for anti-Semitism when it has occurred within his party and is taking actions to prevent it in future.

However, the situations are not identical. Corbyn himself has made no anti-Semitic comments AND has fought against all kinds of racism all him life.

Johnson is an elitist pig who made direct comments against black people, gay people, Muslims, women, single mums and the working class. He has refused outright to apologise for any of them.

Eilzel wrote:I'm not disputing the political hot water that Corbyn puts himself it, didge. And as you ought to remember, I have never been Corbyn's biggest cheer leader.

But there is no 'perfect option' here.

The Conservatives have openly supported a hostile environment for all immigrants. Johnson has made insulting statements about various ethnic minorities that have stirred up racial hatred and he hasn't apologised. Many of the current Conservative front bench are awful people.

The Labour party has its anti-Semitism problem, however bad it may be. Corbyn is unquestionably one of the worst Labour leaders in generations and has kept some terrible company no doubt. Some of his decisions have been pretty appalling. But I am under no illusions that minority groups as a whole are better off under a Labour government.

So putting both party's race issues aside, I have to choose based on their other policies, and I prefer Labour.

phildidge wrote:

Eilzel wrote:I'm not disputing the political hot water that Corbyn puts himself it, didge. And as you ought to remember, I have never been Corbyn's biggest cheer leader.

But there is no 'perfect option' here.

The Conservatives have openly supported a hostile environment for all immigrants. Johnson has made insulting statements about various ethnic minorities that have stirred up racial hatred and he hasn't apologised. Many of the current Conservative front bench are awful people.

The Labour party has its anti-Semitism problem, however bad it may be. Corbyn is unquestionably one of the worst Labour leaders in generations and has kept some terrible company no doubt. Some of his decisions have been pretty appalling. But I am under no illusions that minority groups as a whole are better off under a Labour government.

So putting both party's race issues aside, I have to choose based on their other policies, and I prefer Labour.

A hostile environment for all immigrants? When I am the son of immigrants
You have no idea what you are talking about
I have no time for many Coservatives, but not one minority groups is in fear of them
To even equate this to how Jews qare in fear of Corbyn, shows the depsration of your argumeht to again steer this away from how. Corbyn has created a hotbed of antisemitism and it has now become normalised within the party

So here we are again, Jews count less to you as a minority group
You make claims that under the Tories, even though we already are, that minorities will suffer under them. Please explain to me how?
Even females would lose their sex based rights under Labour. As Labour will introduce polices which eradicate sex based protections for females, with self ID

You are not even chosing the lesser of two evils here. You simple are voting for evil here and again still fail to see that you are.
A party that hates the rich and looks at the rich as the source of evil

This is a hateful party and whilst I have no time for the Conservatives. You clearly think borrowing billions will not place this country backwards with how Labour are going to be like an petulant child. Without any due care for how they spend their money?

I am not willing to throw Jews under the bus, simple because you perceive their policies are better

Jews should never come at any cost, but you are willing to make that decision

wow

'Wolfie wrote:

Despite all of the 'feel good' fluffery and puff-pieces that Dodge litters his posts with...

When push 'comes to shove', he still ends up giving his preferences to the wife bashers, child abusers, environmental vandals, corporate carpetbaggers and war criminals..

phildidge wrote:

'Wolfie wrote:

Despite all of the 'feel good' fluffery and puff-pieces that Dodge litters his posts with...

When push 'comes to shove', he still ends up giving his preferences to the wife bashers, child abusers, environmental vandals, corporate carpetbaggers and war criminals..

Wow, simple wow, when I am not even voting conservative, nor do I longer support them.
Are you claiming Conservatives get away with domestic violence, child abuse and are war criminals?
Which Conservative MP's?

Tony Blair was labour that took this country to war from lies. Sure you are talking about the right party here?


Can anyone point to me ever where I have defended wife bashers or child abusers?
Or war criminals?

The above again shows what the extreme left is like and why they are a danger to society like the far right

Again simple wow  

Eilzel wrote:

phildidge wrote:

A hostile environment for all immigrants? When I am the son of immigrants
You have no idea what you are talking about
I have no time for many Coservatives, but not one minority groups is in fear of them
To even equate this to how Jews qare in fear of Corbyn, shows the depsration of your argumeht to again steer this away from how. Corbyn has created a hotbed of antisemitism and it has now become normalised within the party

So here we are again, Jews count less to you as a minority group
You make claims that under the Tories, even though we already are, that minorities will suffer under them. Please explain to me how?
Even females would lose their sex based rights under Labour. As Labour will introduce polices which eradicate sex based protections for females, with self ID

You are not even chosing the lesser of two evils here. You simple are voting for evil here and again still fail to see that you are.
A party that hates the rich and looks at the rich as the source of evil

This is a hateful party and whilst I have no time for the Conservatives. You clearly think borrowing billions will not place this country backwards with how Labour are going to be like an petulant child. Without any due care for how they spend their money?

I am not willing to throw Jews under the bus, simple because you perceive their policies are better

Jews should never come at any cost, but you are willing to make that decision

wow

'Jews count less to you as a minority group.'

Wrong.

Wow.

Anthony Julius wrote:
An open letter to Sir Richard Evans: Labour’s anti-Semitism cannot be disregarded
In 1996, Anthony Julius and Richard Evans defended the author Deborah Lipstadt against libel accusations by the Holocaust denier David Irving. Here, Julius responds to Evans’s expression of support for the Labour leadership.

Dear Richard,

I see that you made an intervention yesterday [25 November] in the election. You tweeted your support for Labour. You will vote for the party notwithstanding the “cancer of anti-Semitism that has infected” it. Later in the day, you tweeted that responses have prompted you to ask your Labour candidate “for her views on the controversy about anti-Semitism in the party”. You have not asked me for my views, but in the spirit of the exchanges we had when you were an expert in the Lipstadt case, let me give them to you anyway. Please think again about how you cast your vote.

Let me remind you, on the subject of the Jews, the party has become cruel, malicious, stupid and dishonest. The cruelty has been persistent and extreme – death threats, shouted abuse at branch meetings, online trolling. The malice has been patent, incontinent and pervasive. As with Trump, we are inured to party (and Corbyn) outrages, because they are so frequent. But recall Corbyn's disparagement of “Zionists who, having lived in this country for a very long time, probably all their lives, they don’t understand English irony”. My friend David Hirsh got it right: Corbyn was enjoying the old, sneery English view of Jews, and he was doing it to humiliate the Jews he was talking about. They live among us but they’re not really one of us. This wasn’t Corbyn’s usual political anti-Semitism, it was a spillover into ordinary old-fashioned English anti-Semitism. It was as if the political requirement to humiliate the “Zionists” found its words in the anti-Semitic subconscious of an English middle-class man. This, from the “lifelong campaigner against anti-Semitism”, as a Labour spokesperson described him, following the Chief Rabbi’s recent intervention.

Anti-Semitism is stupid. It makes people stupid. It is not a coincidence that the least accomplished leader of the Labour Party is also its only anti-Semitic one. If you live in a world of conspiracies, if you think the world is divided into the blamelessly good, the victims, and the unqualifiedly evil, the oppressors, then anti-Semitism is for you. It is the commonest outcome of just such conspiratorialist, Manichaean thinking. As for the dishonesty, look at party equivocations on the number of disciplinary cases against members. The unapologetic Corbyn says that there are none left to resolve (“we’ve investigated every single case”); by contrast, a spokesperson is only able to quibble over the precise number outstanding. Corbyn’s ignominious career in relation to Jews has been recast by a party spokesperson as the career of a “lifelong campaign against anti-Semitism”. Is anybody really fooled by this? Is there anything more threadbare – indeed, Trumpian – in the insouciance of the party’s response to its own anti-Semitism? This is not a party that cares about the concerns of the Jewish community, save insofar as those concerns might have a damaging impact on its electoral fortunes.

In response to your second tweet, about individual candidates: Anti-Semitism, long a fugitive, has acquired institutional authority in today’s Labour Party. Within the party itself, compelling evidence exists of extensive spoken and online abuse of Jewish party members; exclusion of Jewish members from participating in party activity; signalling by the party leader that anti-Semitic views are acceptable; the failure to implement processes to protect Jewish members from anti-Semitism; hostile responses to those calling out anti-Semitism; and appointment of anti-Semites to positions of power (indeed, as the Panorama investigation exposed, interfering in disciplinary processes “to let off their mates”, reported a whistle-blower). This anti-Semitism taints the passive enablers in the party – to start with, the whole front bench. This is how the Corbyn period will be remembered. This is his legacy to the party.


This anti-Semitism concerns us all, Jews and non-Jews. A party that cannot be trusted in relation to Jews cannot be trusted at all. No party of reform and justice can be trusted if it makes exceptions of a minority community. British Jews have heard for some weeks now the argument that the anti-Semitism is all very unfortunate; it is limited (to the leader, to a small fraction in the party enabled by him); there are bigger issues (Brexit, austerity, etc). There is even an implication that it is a little parochial – perhaps even, selfish – of Jews to insist on their own special suffering, their own local fears, in these times of national crisis. So what if the party is contaminated by Jew hatred if it is also the party that will save the country? Of course, formulating the question in this way does more than justice to the capabilities of the Labour Party. But the point goes deeper. Anti-Semites cannot be social reformers. Their anti-Semitism incapacitates them. As a result, anti-Semitism does not just injure Jews. It encourages misconceptions about the causes of social conflicts – of human suffering and social deprivation – and therefore prolongs their existence, to everyone’s loss. By denying Jews the opportunity of making contributions to society, anti-Semites injure all of us. Anti-Semitism corrupts political discourse; it taints political life; its injustices towards Jews are precedent-establishing – people who start with the Jews, do not end with the Jews. Anti-Semitism even injures anti-Semites, because it degrades them.

To purge the party of anti-Semitism will be the work of a generation. The evidence that the political will exists to undertake this task is not compelling: members are not yet ashamed enough of their party’s anti-Semitism. The driving out of leading Jewish (and non-Jewish) politicians from the party, who cited its anti-Semitism, did not have a substantial impact on party morale, still less commit its officials and elected members to decisive action. We cannot leave the work to the party itself. Supporters have to lend a hand. Depriving the party of a vote is a start.

Yours,


Anthony.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2019/11/open-letter-sir-richard-evans-labour-s-anti-semitism-cannot-be-disregarded

Sir Richard Evans wrote:Back from a visit to Germany to find Anthony Julius's persuasive open letter to me in the New Statesman. As much as Corbyn's lamentable failure to apologise in his tv interview, or the intervention of the Chief Rabbi, this has persuaded me to change my mind and not vote Labour.

https://twitter.com/RichardEvans36/status/1200116355472797696

Eilzel wrote:

phildidge wrote:

Wow, simple wow, when I am not even voting conservative, nor do I longer support them.
Are you claiming Conservatives get away with domestic violence, child abuse and are war criminals?
Which Conservative MP's?

Tony Blair was labour that took this country to war from lies. Sure you are talking about the right party here?


Can anyone point to me ever where I have defended wife bashers or child abusers?
Or war criminals?

The above again shows what the extreme left is like and why they are a danger to society like the far right

Again simple wow  

What's the difference between a simple wow and a complicated wow?

On other issues, under Corbyn, what EXACTLY do think he is going to do to Jews if in government?

phildidge wrote:Oh and by the by, yes i respect you and was emotionally wrong to charge this of you Eilzel. I am though simple disapointed in how you can not see the danger signals here. You are failing to learn from history. Where again German people were seduced by this kind of economic rhetoric. By he Nazi's. This does not mean Corbyn is the same as the Nazi's, but he uses the same rhetoric in blame and scapegoating around those who are rich. Yet they hardly suffer compared to Jews, based on his hate of Israel.

Whatever your views are on Israel, for people to single this one country out. As if it has no right to exist. Reeks of antisemitism.  It was a minority people who formed a nation from their ancestry. Nobody would object to any Indegineous American people forming a state in the US, but when it comes to Jews. They are claimed to be colonizors? I mean what the fuck, the Arans colonized the entire Middle East and North Africa with Arabization and yet this is fine with the left.

I want peace between the Palestinians and Israeli's, but the reality is the Corbynites want to see Israel destroyed. They do not want to see Bosnia, Kosova, Poland etc destroyed. All countries formed from a minority people. Within lands of majority nation of Russians, Germans and Serbians . Yet all were then attacked for their self determination, including Israel As Israel was from its creation in 1948. Hence why many people are antisemitic. They only question the creation of the Jewish state. Not the Bosnian state, not the Polish state. Only the Jewish state. Because they are antisemitic

Yes policies by Isreal are wrong and should be condemned and rightly so, but to claim its right to exist should be questioned. Reeks of antisemitism

Like i say, maybe you need to go back to reading the rise of Nazism to see how and why your views are flawed here Eilzel

On that note I wish you all the best, but I am very disappointed in you. Even more when you did downplay the concerns of Jews by claiming some Jews support Corbyn.
That was really your lowest post to date on this

Laters

Eilzel wrote:During the rise of Nazism there had been a historic hatred of Jews. The literature and speeches of prominent Nazis were steeped in anti-Semitic comments on 'Jewry' and the Jewish problem. It was in everything they said and did. It was no great mystery or came from small corners and dug up one off comments.

Didge wrote:During the rise of Corbynism there had been a historic hatred of Jews. The literature and speeches of prominent Momentum supporterswere steeped in anti-Semitic comments on 'Jewry' and the Jewish problem. It was in everything they said and did. It was no great mystery or came from small corners and dug up one off comments

To be clear, I do not condone Corbyn's comments in Iran or any of the things said or done on this by the Labour party. But it is colossally incomparable to look at Nazi Germany, which was governed by a regime which quite openly wanted to deal with the Jews specifically, one way or another, and compare that with the Labour party.

Didge wrote:Wow, failing to see where such hate leads to in Nazi Germany. Tha Holocaust started with hateful rhetocric towards Jews and we see this now towards Israel. Again are you that naive? Hence why are we seeing a global rise again of antisemitism? Its because you are so naive to wake up to this That does not solve peace when I back a state for both sides. Corbyn promotes a hate against the Jewish state and by extention Jews themselves. Hew does not believe they have a right to a state. Even worse he backs Arabization. A form of colonialism of the Middle East and North Africa. Nobody questions the right of Poland to exist. or Bosnia, or Kosova for example. All minority peoples from former lands of the Germans, Russians and Serbians. Only thre Jewish state is called into question by the far left, because they have been bought into old soviet antisemitism, that created this in the first place

If anti-Semitism has risen alongside these words from within Labour, then the Labour party is only as culpable as the rise in Islamophobia and Xenophobia is to be blamed on the Conservative Party of the last 10 years or more.

But one of those party's is going to win the election, not the others. And since I want a second referendum and support nationalisation, I'd be an absolute fool not to vote FOR those things because of comments made by a minority of Labour members. Brexit Party is racist, Conservatives have stoked the flames of racism. The rest are incompetent (aside from the SNP but I'm not Scottish). I'm not throwing anyone under a bus, I'm making what I see as the best decision under the circumstances. You may not agree, but you are completely wrong to say I don't care.

Didge wrote:Since what you want? Wow, like i said, you are absolutely willing to throw Jews under the bus for what you want. How about obtaining this without throwing Jews under the bus? For you to say you are willing to cast them aside is inherantly comparable to how Germans felt in the early 1930's. The nazis's were going nowhere until the wall street crash. It took the view of people like you to claim the nationalisation of industry would save a country and yet in the Soviet Union and other examples of history. This litterallt caused the deaths of tens ofmillions. Showing you have not learnt a damn thing about history and why it always requires authoritarianism to invoke such policies. You simple do not care about the harm you would cause by implimenting poor policies out of an intention to do good, whichj always ends up harming millions. I suggest you read some real history again, because i am starting to see you as an extremist far left imbicille

If it makes you feel any better, there is a chance, in the unlikely scenario BoJo fails to get a majority, that Corbyn stepping down in the price to pay for forming a Labour government in coalition.

phildidge wrote:

Eilzel wrote:During the rise of Nazism there had been a historic hatred of Jews. The literature and speeches of prominent Nazis were steeped in anti-Semitic comments on 'Jewry' and the Jewish problem. It was in everything they said and did. It was no great mystery or came from small corners and dug up one off comments.

Didge wrote:During the rise of Corbynism there had been a historic hatred of Jews. The literature and speeches of prominent Momentum supporterswere steeped in anti-Semitic comments on 'Jewry' and the Jewish problem. It was in everything they said and did. It was no great mystery or came from small corners and dug up one off comments

To be clear, I do not condone Corbyn's comments in Iran or any of the things said or done on this by the Labour party. But it is colossally incomparable to look at Nazi Germany, which was governed by a regime which quite openly wanted to deal with the Jews specifically, one way or another, and compare that with the Labour party.

Didge wrote:Wow, failing to see where such hate leads to in Nazi Germany. Tha Holocaust started with hateful rhetocric towards Jews and we see this now towards Israel. Again are you that naive? Hence why are we seeing a global rise again of antisemitism? Its because you are so naive to wake up to this That does not solve peace when I back a state for both sides. Corbyn promotes a hate against the Jewish state and by extention Jews themselves. Hew does not believe they have a right to a state. Even worse he backs Arabization. A form of colonialism of the Middle East and North Africa. Nobody questions the right of Poland to exist. or Bosnia, or Kosova for example. All minority peoples from former lands of the Germans, Russians and Serbians. Only thre Jewish state is called into question by the far left, because they have been bought into old soviet antisemitism, that created this in the first place

If anti-Semitism has risen alongside these words from within Labour, then the Labour party is only as culpable as the rise in Islamophobia and Xenophobia is to be blamed on the Conservative Party of the last 10 years or more.

But one of those party's is going to win the election, not the others. And since I want a second referendum and support nationalisation, I'd be an absolute fool not to vote FOR those things because of comments made by a minority of Labour members. Brexit Party is racist, Conservatives have stoked the flames of racism. The rest are incompetent (aside from the SNP but I'm not Scottish). I'm not throwing anyone under a bus, I'm making what I see as the best decision under the circumstances. You may not agree, but you are completely wrong to say I don't care.

Didge wrote:Since what you want? Wow, like i said, you are absolutely willing to throw Jews under the bus for what you want. How about obtaining this without throwing Jews under the bus? For you to say you are willing to cast them aside is inherantly comparable to how Germans felt in the early 1930's. The nazis's were going nowhere until the wall street crash. It took the view of people like you to claim the nationalisation of industry would save a country and yet in the Soviet Union and other examples of history. This litterallt caused the deaths of tens ofmillions. Showing you have not learnt a damn thing about history and why it always requires authoritarianism to invoke such policies. You simple do not care about the harm you would cause by implimenting poor policies out of an intention to do good, whichj always ends up harming millions. I suggest you read some real history again, because i am starting to see you as an extremist far left imbicille

If it makes you feel any better, there is a chance, in the unlikely scenario BoJo fails to get a majority, that Corbyn stepping down in the price to pay for forming a Labour government in coalition.

Corbyn is the head of the snake, just like Hitler. His death will not solve the issue. Moderate Labour supporters have to take back their part from the extreme left

The question to ask here is simple

Do you allign yourself with the far left?

Yes or no

Eilzel wrote:

phildidge wrote:

Corbyn is the head of the snake, just like Hitler. His death will not solve the issue. Moderate Labour supporters have to take back their part from the extreme left

The question to ask here is simple

Do you allign yourself with the far left?

Yes or no

No.

But that's only because I don't 'align' myself with any group.

I have views. Some (nationalisation) are what might be called far left. Others are probably less so.

phildidge wrote:

Eilzel wrote:

phildidge wrote:

Corbyn is the head of the snake, just like Hitler. His death will not solve the issue. Moderate Labour supporters have to take back their part from the extreme left

The question to ask here is simple

Do you allign yourself with the far left?

Yes or no

No.

But that's only because I don't 'align' myself with any group.

I have views. Some (nationalisation) are what might be called far left. Others are probably less so.

But you have alligned yourself with a group. Labour under momentum
I have not alligned mkyself with the torieds and would rather they were not in power
I now cannot allign mylsef with the Liberals as they wish to eradicate sex based rights for females by introducing self ID
You see, I stand by my principles unlike you. (I am happy for the governement to make transgender a seperate category and for transsexusals to be legally women in law. But the momemt people invoke woke policies with no due care for what it will create. Basically a policity for sexual predators to abuse. Shows that people like you are willing to back policies from a view of inclusion, which will end up actually exclude far more people in females

The point is here you still want to back an antisemitic party

You downplay the antisemitism, because you have made it very clear you do not believe or care about the concerns of Jews and most of all you bacj tried and tested poor policies that have ruined economies in south America.

You have intelligence Eizel, I seriously am astounded why you are not actually using this

Eilzel wrote:

phildidge wrote:

But you have alligned yourself with a group. Labour under momentum
I have not alligned mkyself with the torieds and would rather they were not in power
I now cannot allign mylsef with the Liberals as they wish to eradicate sex based rights for females by introducing self ID
You see, I stand by my principles unlike you. (I am happy for the governement to make transgender a seperate category and for transsexusals to be legally women in law. But the momemt people invoke woke policies with no due care for what it will create. Basically a policity for sexual predators to abuse. Shows that people like you are willing to back policies from a view of inclusion, which will end up actually exclude far more people in females

The point is here you still want to back an antisemitic party

You downplay the antisemitism, because you have made it very clear you do not believe or care about the concerns of Jews and most of all you bacj tried and tested poor policies that have ruined economies in south America.

You have intelligence Eizel, I seriously am astounded why you are not actually using this

Your point here is getting lost.

I have not aligned myself with Labour, I'm simply voting for them in the upcoming election because OVERALL they are the ones I think are best for the country.

Instead of attacking me for making a choice (in arguably the most important election in decades) why not reveal who you will vote for?

Eilzel wrote:I'm voting Labour because they are best for the country overall imo.

phildidge wrote:

Eilzel wrote:I'm voting Labour because they are best for the country overall imo.

Translation

"fuck the jews"

Eilzel wrote:I'm voting Labour because they are best for the country overall imo.

Labour are not scapegoating Jews. The anti-Semitic statements from a minority within Labour are just random nastiness from bad individuals. Nowhere have I seen or heard a Labour message blaming Jews for any of the country's current problems.

You are going on a wild tangent here for absolutely no reason.

If you can't even say who you would vote for, then I've no reason to continue listening to you go on at me about my decision.

Eilzel wrote:

phildidge wrote:

Translation

"fuck the jews"

Still no word on who you're voting for?

No?

Coward.

phildidge wrote:

Eilzel wrote:I'm voting Labour because they are best for the country overall imo.

Labour are not scapegoating Jews. The anti-Semitic statements from a minority within Labour are just random nastiness from bad individuals. Nowhere have I seen or heard a Labour message blaming Jews for any of the country's current problems.

You are going on a wild tangent here for absolutely no reason.

If you can't even say who you would vote for, then I've no reason to continue listening to you go on at me about my decision.

in 1929 the nazi party only held 123 and in two years they held 107 and again a year later they held 196

From a minority?

May I suggest you go on twitter and see its clearly not a minority you nincompoop

Do you know what. I am not going to bother to try and educate you here, because c;early youhave been brainwashed

Mark this. If Corbyn gains power, I am leaving this country, as will hundred of thousands of Jews

But maybe that was your plan all along eh

Twat

phildidge wrote:

Eilzel wrote:

phildidge wrote:

Translation

"fuck the jews"

Still no word on who you're voting for?

No?

Coward.

Coward? Lol

Would you say that to my face?

I very much doubt it and look big behind your keyboard

I am not voting for anyone, as again its a safe tory seat

I did tell you this fuckwit, but you clearly want a fight

So bring it on

Eilzel wrote:

phildidge wrote:


Coward? Lol

Would you say that to my face?

I very much doubt it and look big behind your keyboard

I am not voting for anyone, as again its a safe tory seat

I did tell you this fuckwit, but you clearly want a fight

So bring it on

If you spend all your night arguing that someone because you have made a decision about them based on who they'll vote for, but then won't even admit who you will vote for yourself, that is pretty cowardly in an internet forum setting.

I'm not looking for a fight. My constituency is a Labour stronghold but I always voted for Liberal despite them having no chance because that's what I believed in. If you want to forfeit your democratic right then that's your choice, though people died to give you that choice.

I don't care for a fight. Maybe take a break.

phildidge wrote:

Eilzel wrote:

phildidge wrote:


Coward? Lol

Would you say that to my face?

I very much doubt it and look big behind your keyboard

I am not voting for anyone, as again its a safe tory seat

I did tell you this fuckwit, but you clearly want a fight

So bring it on

If you spend all your night arguing that someone because you have made a decision about them based on who they'll vote for, but then won't even admit who you will vote for yourself, that is pretty cowardly in an internet forum setting.

I'm not looking for a fight. My constituency is a Labour stronghold but I always voted for Liberal despite them having no chance because that's what I believed in. If you want to forfeit your democratic right then that's your choice, though people died to give you that choice.

I don't care for a fight. Maybe take a break.

All my night?

You have to throw in the little digs dont you

Fuck you, you have got a fight and now you are my enemy

That is what you have created

Bravo

Eilzel wrote:

phildidge wrote:

All my night?

You have to throw in the little digs dont you

Fuck you, you have got a fight and now you are my enemy

That is what you have created

Bravo

All right

Eilzel wrote:

phildidge wrote:

Wow, simple wow, when I am not even voting conservative, nor do I longer support them.
Are you claiming Conservatives get away with domestic violence, child abuse and are war criminals?
Which Conservative MP's?

Tony Blair was labour that took this country to war from lies. Sure you are talking about the right party here?


Can anyone point to me ever where I have defended wife bashers or child abusers?
Or war criminals?

The above again shows what the extreme left is like and why they are a danger to society like the far right

Again simple wow  

What's the difference between a simple wow and a complicated wow?

gelico wrote:

Eilzel wrote:

phildidge wrote:

Wow, simple wow, when I am not even voting conservative, nor do I longer support them.
Are you claiming Conservatives get away with domestic violence, child abuse and are war criminals?
Which Conservative MP's?

Tony Blair was labour that took this country to war from lies. Sure you are talking about the right party here?


Can anyone point to me ever where I have defended wife bashers or child abusers?
Or war criminals?

The above again shows what the extreme left is like and why they are a danger to society like the far right

Again simple wow  

What's the difference between a simple wow and a complicated wow?

stop it!!

nicko wrote:Les does not live in Britain, his views are immaterial !

phildidge wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:Judging from that photo and many others, he was raised by a single mother -- certainly looks, and sounds, "ill-raised, ignorant and aggressive" to me.

So you are basically blaming his mother then?

wow kind oif self defeating point which ends up backing his sexist ignorant stance here then?

Ben Reilly wrote:

phildidge wrote:

So you are basically blaming his mother then?

wow kind oif self defeating point which ends up backing his sexist ignorant stance here then?

I thought the "by his own reasoning" part was implied. Sorry, I tend to forget about your tendency to robotically oppose me in discussions like this. Perhaps I try to see you as better than what you really are.

Eilzel wrote:

nicko wrote:Les does not live in Britain, his views are immaterial !

And your repetitive drivel is irrelevant.