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Post by Original Quill Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:07 pm

Roll Call wrote:Pentagon wants Congress to replenish funds Trump taps for border wall

Wasserman Schultz calls plan an end-run around Congress

The Pentagon every year comes to Congress to defend its ever-growing budget, highlighting the decrepit military installations and decades-old equipment that must be refurbished or replaced to defend the nation.

But now, Pentagon officials are telling lawmakers that diverting dollars from defense projects to build President Donald Trump’s desired border wall is justified and won’t weaken the military — so long as Congress replenishes the accounts Trump could tap to build the wall.

“Some current military construction projects may be deferred” if military construction money is used to pay for the wall, Robert H. McMahon, assistant secretary of Defense for sustainment, told the House Military Construction-VA Appropriations Subcommittee on Wednesday. “The fiscal year 2020 president’s budget request will include a request for funds to replenish funding for these projects.”

In other words, Trump is betting on Congress to replenish those accounts in the fiscal 2020 spending bill.

Florida Democrat Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the subcommittee’s chairwoman, called the plan an end-run around Congress.

“I’m not sure what kind of chumps you think my colleagues and I are,” Wasserman Schultz told McMahon. “What you’re doing is circumventing Congress to get funding for the wall, which you couldn’t get during the conference process, and instead coming back and trying to get us to replace the funding during the appropriations cycle.”

Georgia Democrat Sanford D. Bishop Jr. reminded McMahon that the administration’s upcoming proposal for fiscal 2020 funding is not guaranteed.

“The president’s budget request is not law,” Bishop said. “It’s not assured to be appropriated.”

Republicans on the panel largely sided with the administration on the need for more border security, but not if it comes at the expense of the military.

“Additional funding is needed to address humanitarian and security crisis on our southern border,” said Rep. John Carter of Texas, the panel’s top Republican. “While I stand with the president on this important national security issue, I will not do so at the expense of the soldiers and families at Ft. Hood.”

Trump’s plan to fund the wall includes $3.6 billion in unobligated military construction funding. But the administration would only tap that funding after it spends $1.375 billion appropriated for wall construction in fiscal 2019, $601 million from the Treasury Department’s asset forfeiture fund and $2.5 billion from the Pentagon’s counterdrug account.

According to the Pentagon, some $13.3 billion in “milcon” appropriations remained unobligated, or not committed to specific projects, as of Sept. 30, 2018. That’s before the $11.3 billion Congress provided for the current fiscal year.

The Pentagon is awaiting word from Homeland Security on how it would spend the border wall funds and is currently working to identify which military construction funds could most easily be diverted, McMahon said.

The projects most likely to lose funding are those that pose no “operational readiness risks if deferred,” new projects that had been awarded in the last six months of the fiscal year, and “recapitalization projects of existing facilities that can temporarily be deferred for a period of months,” McMahon said.

None of the projects, McMahon said, would be canceled.

So Trump asked for funds for his border wall.  Congress said no.  So Trump declared a National Emergency, permitting him to take funds earmarked for other government programs, notably from the Department of Defense (DOD), and gave it to the border wall.

Now, in a fanciful end run, Trump's administration is asking for Congress to replenish those funds to DOD.  It's a way to get funds from Congress that they don't want to give.  It's a nice idea to fully fund a national healthcare program, but not for a ridiculous border wall that has only theatrical significance.

If the Democratic Party even dares to replenish those funds, I will never vote for them again.  Time and again they pussyfoot around the Republicans, and let it go.  They did it with the non-prosecution of Cheney and will probably do it again with non-prosecution of Trump.  So, I'm asking, what good are they?

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Post by Maddog Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:28 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Roll Call wrote:Pentagon wants Congress to replenish funds Trump taps for border wall

Wasserman Schultz calls plan an end-run around Congress

The Pentagon every year comes to Congress to defend its ever-growing budget, highlighting the decrepit military installations and decades-old equipment that must be refurbished or replaced to defend the nation.

But now, Pentagon officials are telling lawmakers that diverting dollars from defense projects to build President Donald Trump’s desired border wall is justified and won’t weaken the military — so long as Congress replenishes the accounts Trump could tap to build the wall.

“Some current military construction projects may be deferred” if military construction money is used to pay for the wall, Robert H. McMahon, assistant secretary of Defense for sustainment, told the House Military Construction-VA Appropriations Subcommittee on Wednesday. “The fiscal year 2020 president’s budget request will include a request for funds to replenish funding for these projects.”

In other words, Trump is betting on Congress to replenish those accounts in the fiscal 2020 spending bill.

Florida Democrat Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the subcommittee’s chairwoman, called the plan an end-run around Congress.

“I’m not sure what kind of chumps you think my colleagues and I are,” Wasserman Schultz told McMahon. “What you’re doing is circumventing Congress to get funding for the wall, which you couldn’t get during the conference process, and instead coming back and trying to get us to replace the funding during the appropriations cycle.”

Georgia Democrat Sanford D. Bishop Jr. reminded McMahon that the administration’s upcoming proposal for fiscal 2020 funding is not guaranteed.

“The president’s budget request is not law,” Bishop said. “It’s not assured to be appropriated.”

Republicans on the panel largely sided with the administration on the need for more border security, but not if it comes at the expense of the military.

“Additional funding is needed to address humanitarian and security crisis on our southern border,” said Rep. John Carter of Texas, the panel’s top Republican. “While I stand with the president on this important national security issue, I will not do so at the expense of the soldiers and families at Ft. Hood.”

Trump’s plan to fund the wall includes $3.6 billion in unobligated military construction funding. But the administration would only tap that funding after it spends $1.375 billion appropriated for wall construction in fiscal 2019, $601 million from the Treasury Department’s asset forfeiture fund and $2.5 billion from the Pentagon’s counterdrug account.

According to the Pentagon, some $13.3 billion in “milcon” appropriations remained unobligated, or not committed to specific projects, as of Sept. 30, 2018. That’s before the $11.3 billion Congress provided for the current fiscal year.

The Pentagon is awaiting word from Homeland Security on how it would spend the border wall funds and is currently working to identify which military construction funds could most easily be diverted, McMahon said.

The projects most likely to lose funding are those that pose no “operational readiness risks if deferred,” new projects that had been awarded in the last six months of the fiscal year, and “recapitalization projects of existing facilities that can temporarily be deferred for a period of months,” McMahon said.

None of the projects, McMahon said, would be canceled.

So Trump asked for funds for his border wall.  Congress said no.  So Trump declared a National Emergency, permitting him to take funds earmarked for other government programs, notably from the Department of Defense (DOD), and gave it to the border wall.

Now, in a fanciful end run, Trump's administration is asking for Congress to replenish those funds to DOD.  It's a way to get funds from Congress that they don't want to give.  It's a nice idea to fully fund a national healthcare program, but not for a ridiculous border wall that has only theatrical significance.

If the Democratic Party even dares to replenish those funds, I will never vote for them again.  Time and again they pussyfoot around the Republicans, and let it go.  They did it with the non-prosecution of Cheney and will probably do it again with non-prosecution of Trump.  So, I'm asking, what good are they?

They are good for entertainment.
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Post by Original Quill Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:26 am

Yes, both parties put on quite a show. But my money is on two new parties by 2025.

Moscow has taken over the Republicans, and the Democrats can't get out of their own way for trying to do nothing.

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Post by Maddog Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:55 pm

Original Quill wrote:Yes, both parties put on quite a show.  But my money is on two new parties by 2025.

Moscow has taken over the Republicans, and the Democrats can't get out of their own way for trying to do nothing.


You should probably steer clear of Vegas.
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Post by Original Quill Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:50 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:Yes, both parties put on quite a show.  But my money is on two new parties by 2025.

Moscow has taken over the Republicans, and the Democrats can't get out of their own way for trying to do nothing.

You should probably steer clear of Vegas.  

It's either new parties or new countries, as I've made known previously.

We have an adversarial system, dependent of mutual adversity and oversight.  One party is a traitor, selling out to our most formidable enemy in the past 100-years...for kompromat and kash.  The opponent party is afraid to exercise their adversarial power, scared that the other will hit back.

I don't know who disgusts me more...a cheat or a coward!

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