Iranian women face 10 years for sharing videos of hijab removal

Iranian officials have warned that posting video footage of women removing their mandatory headscarves in public could lead to up 10 years imprisonment, according to media reports yesterday.

The announcement specifically named the US-based social media platform of Masih Alinejad, which since 2014 has been inviting Iranian women to post pictures of themselves without the hijab.

Ms Alinejad has been accused by the Iranian regime of working as an agent of the US government over the website, known as My Stealthy Freedom.

"As Masih Alinejad has a contract with the Americans, all those women who send the video footages of removing their hijab to her will be sentenced between one to 10 years of jail according to the article 508 of the Islamic Criminal Justice Act,” the head of Tehran’s Court of Revolution cleric Mousa Ghazanfarabadi told Fars news.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/07/29/iranian-women-face-10-years-sharing-videos-hijab-removal/

For those interested

https://twitter.com/AlinejadMasih

It's their culture. None of my business. No sense in getting all ethnocentric about it.

Iran's judiciary has criminialised the act of sending me videos from Iranians. But guess what? Iranian women aren't giving up.

Here's a compilation of their videos where they're #WalkingUnveiled against compulsory hijab. Women's voices can't be censored.
#WhiteWednesdays


https://twitter.com/AlinejadMasih/status/1156310189743759360


video on link

Her name is #YasamanAryani she is one of the youngest women’s right activist who joined #WhiteWednesdays movement against #ForcedHijab .Today Yasaman & her mother #MonirehArabshahi each got 16 yrs jail sentence for their Peaceful activities. Be her voice.

https://twitter.com/AlinejadMasih/status/1156637888529993728

Original Quill wrote:It's their culture.  None of my business.  No sense in getting all ethnocentric about it.

Erm yes, but many news stories are “none of your business” but you might still give your opinion.

Anyway, here’s mine: totally shocking and barbaric. I would hope that so many Iranian women stand up to this and get this stupid law changed.

Fight the power!

eddie wrote:

Original Quill wrote:It's their culture.  None of my business.  No sense in getting all ethnocentric about it.

Erm yes, but many news stories are “none of your business” but you might still give your opinion.

Precisely.  Now justify how your opinion is superior another's opinion.

They have a culture that forbids removal of headscarves.  We have a culture that cages innocent dark-skinned children.  Go ahead and judge them, and we'll let them judge us.

I call on world media, female politicians, #MeToo movement: Yesterday Iranian judiciary system said women who film their harassers will face up to 10 years in jail. They want to silence us. Don’t let them.
#MyCameraIsMyWeapon
#WhiteWednesdays

https://twitter.com/AlinejadMasih/status/1156214959728156673

Original Quill wrote:

eddie wrote:

Original Quill wrote:It's their culture.  None of my business.  No sense in getting all ethnocentric about it.

Erm yes, but many news stories are “none of your business” but you might still give your opinion.

Precisely.  Now justify how your opinion is superior another's opinion.

They have a culture that forbids removal of headscarves.  We have a culture that cages innocent dark-skinned children.  Go ahead and judge them, and we'll let them judge us.

I never said that my opinion was superior and I never said that they couldn’t judge us.
Not sure of what your opinion is on the OP so......

eddie wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Precisely.  Now justify how your opinion is superior another's opinion.

They have a culture that forbids removal of headscarves.  We have a culture that cages innocent dark-skinned children.  Go ahead and judge them, and we'll let them judge us.

I never said that my opinion was superior and I never said that they couldn’t judge us.
Not sure of what your opinion is on the OP so......

I was speaking to the generic 'we'.  My point was that if you accept ethnocentric judging, then it goes both ways...and we (US) don't look so angelic.

The idea of ethnocentrism actually arises out of anthropology, and the attempt at objectivity in the study of other cultures.  Claude Lévi-Strauss, a French  anthropologist and ethnologist, was the father of objectivity in that science.

Lévi-Strauss held: in order to understand and work with a culture, you don't judge, which is to become involved.  Rather, you remain detached.  One tenet of that philosophy is that its wrong to think your cultural ideas are superior to those of other cultures.  From a god's-eye view, no culture has the franchise on right and wrong, good and bad.

The Japanese eat raw chicken.  Is that bad?  The Trobian Islanders allow polygamy.  Is that evil?  Don't judge others, lest you be judged yourself...and right now, we don't look so good.

Quill, just because you’re not proud of your own country right now, it doesn’t mean you can’t comment on your own views regarding others.

Otherwise, what’s the point of debate?

eddie wrote:Quill, just because you’re not proud of your own country right now, it doesn’t mean you can’t comment on your own views regarding others.

Otherwise, what’s the point of debate?

Of course you are entitled to comment.  That is what we are doing right now.  I didn't use the word 'comment', but 'judge', in my posts.  To judge is to declare a right and wrong, which is much more that a mere discussion.  

The world is bigger than our little microcosm.  Wars have been fought when it comes to judgments.  To judge is to get really serious and severe in your approach.

Original Quill wrote:

eddie wrote:Quill, just because you’re not proud of your own country right now, it doesn’t mean you can’t comment on your own views regarding others.

Otherwise, what’s the point of debate?

Of course you are entitled to comment.  That is what we are doing.  I didn't use the word 'comment', but 'judge', in my comments.  To judge is to declare a right and wrong, which is much more that a mere discussion.  

The world is bigger than our little microcosm.  Wars have been fought when it comes to judgments.  To judge is to get really serious and severe in your approach.

I take your points, especially about wars which is something I think you and I tend to find common ground on. I don’t tend to like judging but I can have an opinion, right? And so can you.

eddie wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Of course you are entitled to comment.  That is what we are doing.  I didn't use the word 'comment', but 'judge', in my comments.  To judge is to declare a right and wrong, which is much more that a mere discussion.  

The world is bigger than our little microcosm.  Wars have been fought when it comes to judgments.  To judge is to get really serious and severe in your approach.

I take your points, especially about wars which is something I think you and I tend to find common ground on. I don’t tend to like judging but I can have an opinion, right? And so can you.

Absolutely. And comments are also a form of informing those who do judge. So it's all good.

#WhiteWednesdays call on international community to condemn the arrest of brave women's rights defender Mojgan Keshavarz who has been sentenced to 23 years imprisonment. Here she is peacefully protesting Iran's degrading #ForcedHijab laws.

https://twitter.com/AlinejadMasih/status/1156924208506712064

I have said this in debates before. Why are not all Muslim women standing in solidarity with their Muslim sisters here being forced. By taking off their hijabs in support of them? Until such laws are changed?

Some say our fight against compulsory hijab is causing “Islamaphobia”. Here is my answer to members of parliament & political leaders in Sweden.

”Women like me who grew up under Sharia laws know first hand about cruelty of these laws & have a right to be afraid of Sharia laws.

https://twitter.com/AlinejadMasih/status/1186634664158515201


Video on link

Let them work it out among themselves.  They are going through a transition.

Sure I would like everyone to share our values, but you can't do it by force. Let their cultures evolve on their own time.

1) A remarkable story of survival and hope after an acid attack in Iran.

Here is my short documentary about Masoumeh Ataei, who lost her eyes but not her dreams. She has become a voice of resistance. This is what true feminism looks like.
#MyStory

https://twitter.com/AlinejadMasih/status/1186572149882003457

phildidge wrote:1) A remarkable story of survival and hope after an acid attack in Iran.

Here is my short documentary about Masoumeh Ataei, who lost her eyes but not her dreams. She has become a voice of resistance. This is what true feminism looks like.
#MyStory

https://twitter.com/AlinejadMasih/status/1186572149882003457

And in Texas the shoot blacks.  What else is new?  There's lots of discord in the world.

Let cultures work it out on their own.

#SabaKordafshari Iranian woman sentenced to 24 years in prison for protesting compulsory hijab, being the voice of unknown victims and challenges the Islamic Republic


https://twitter.com/AlinejadMasih/status/1186603621410058240

Time these silly old idiots were put out to Grass !

If anyone ever asks for evidence that Iran remains a backward joke shit hole of a country, send them a link to this news story.

From what I'v gathered Les, the younger generation are sick of the old bearded wankers holding them back from joining the 21st Century. It's only a matter of time before they rebel !

nicko wrote:From what I'v gathered Les, the younger generation are sick of the old  bearded wankers holding them back from joining the 21st Century. It's only a matter of time before they rebel !

I've met a few young Iranians (usually well off and don't want to go back) who would agree with this Nicko

(Who'd agree with you I mean)

Quill, you know where black people get shot a hell of a lot more than in Texas? Africa!

Also, don't we all support people having the freedom to dress and worship as they choose? If so, what is so wrong about saying it?

The girl that shaves my head. She was born in Texas because her parents were fleeing the assholes that run that country. When she went back last year to visit relatives she had to cover her head and of course her arms because of her tats.

It's a shame what has happened to that country.

Ironically, she chose hair as her livelihood.

Ben Reilly wrote:Quill, you know where black people get shot a hell of a lot more than in Texas? Africa!

Why don't you make it your mission to stop that?  I'm busy right now, condemning the racist south for their killings and oppression.

The only thing I would say is, make sure you are working to change important things and not frivolous things that amount to ethnocentric differences.

Ben Reilly wrote:Also, don't we all support people having the freedom to dress and worship as they choose? If so, what is so wrong about saying it?

No.  For example, in America if you choose to go naked, or wear a see-through dress, you will be arrested.  Sixty years ago, people were arrested for wearing bikinis.  A hundred years ago, men would be arrested for not wearing a top at the beach (and I presume elsewhere).  Such laws are tied to the culture within which they are enforced.  It's all relative.

I draw the line at killing, because of it's finality.  That's why, in the above post, I give you permission to go to Africa to correct indiscriminate killings.

But I'm not going to substitute my cultural tastes for another culture's tastes.  Nobody made me god, and I have no right to criticize their culture any more than they have the right to criticize mine.

Maddog wrote:


The girl that shaves my head.  She was born in Texas because her parents were fleeing the assholes that run that country.  When she went back last year to visit relatives she had to cover her head and of course her arms because of her tats.  

It's a shame what has happened to that country.  

Ironically, she chose hair as her livelihood.  

+1

See bravery of an Iranian woman standing up to a cleric. She says: “he looked into my collar, asked me to put on Hijab & followed me”. The video he is taking can land her 10 years in prison. That doesn’t stop her resistance. There are many Rosa Parks in Iran fighting for freedom

https://twitter.com/AlinejadMasih/status/1192887791056613376

Judging by the state of some of the Iranian men I'v seen , it's they who should wear it !