AOC Suffers Third Degree Burns Over 90% Of Her Butt After This Encounter With Former Acting ICE Director Thomas Homan

by Guest Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:06 am

Much of the lackluster American intelligensia, or what passes for it, seems to have an inability to distinguish glib from intelligent (that’s how late night comedians became the thought leaders of the Democrat party). This is certainly the case with freshman communist Democrat Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. If any other human had uttered the patent nonsense that has emanated from this person’s mouth, they would have been given the Dan Quayle treatment long ago. But because of the effortless and pseudo-lucid way in which she spouts stunningly stupid statements, people claim she’s smart. (To be frank, much of this is pushed by sexually frustrated hipsters who thing if they White Knight her that she may notice them. Seriously, when was the last time you heard a member of Congress praised for a high school science fair project? Or being called a “scholar” because you have a bachelor’s degree?)

But what happens when she goes up against someone who actually understands the subject matter, who is smart, and who recognizes that AOC compares unfavorably to your random bag of clawhammers? We now have the answer to that.

Former Border Patrol Chief and former acting ICE Director Thomas Homan testified before the House Oversight Committee today. He came loaded for bear. He slammed unnamed members of Congress who had denigrated Border Patrol and ICE agents. And told Congress if they didn’t like the situation that they should fix it. But the real fireworks came when AOC tried to show off her intelligence.

https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2019/07/13/aoc-suffers-third-degree-burns-90-butt-encounter-former-acting-ice-director-thomas-homan/

by 'Wolfie Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:01 am

"freshman communist Democrat"; "pseudo-lucid.."; "sexually frustrated hipsters.."; "White Knight..".

Those gross exaggerations and racially-tinted hysterical posturings only go to prove where the fascist-minded Repub' propagandist ('streiff') from that far-right extremist blogsite (red-state) is coming from with his/her loony scaremongering.

by Guest Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:02 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

"freshman communist Democrat"; "pseudo-lucid.."; "sexually frustrated hipsters.."; "White Knight..".

Those gross exaggerations and racially-tinted hysterical posturings only go to prove where the fascist-minded Repub' propagandist ('streiff') from that far-right extremist blogsite (red-state).

Triggered

by Eilzel Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:51 am

He hardly left her speechless. She held her own and it cut off before she continued.

The entirety of the OP is exaggeration and slurs commonly thrown at AOC. No substance whatsoever. There are far many more of these videos floating around of AOC annihilating whoever she is speaking to. Nothing to see here.

'redstate.com' give us a break Laughing

by Guest Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:02 am

Eilzel wrote:He hardly left her speechless. She held her own and it cut off before she continued.

The entirety of the OP is exaggeration and slurs commonly thrown at AOC. No substance whatsoever. There are far many more of these videos floating around of AOC annihilating whoever she is speaking to. Nothing to see here.

'redstate.com' give us a break

lol and that shows your confrimation bias, even Vox, thought she got schooled here. Frankly I think the woman is irresponsible.

Look Cortez is a complete drama queen and has clearly lied aqnd fabricated many claims. She openly went against suppoting extra money to help combat this problem, because she again openly wants to scrap borders. Which is insanity. She is simple using the situation to further push herr own socialist beliefs. I mean when she was exposed for looking upset at an empty carpark, that was simple pricless. I place her on a par with Trump in stupidity and dishonesty

I could have posted a number of articles on this, but though this one would more rattle some cages, a it clearly has Laughing

by Eilzel Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:15 am

phildidge wrote:
Eilzel wrote:He hardly left her speechless. She held her own and it cut off before she continued.

The entirety of the OP is exaggeration and slurs commonly thrown at AOC. No substance whatsoever. There are far many more of these videos floating around of AOC annihilating whoever she is speaking to. Nothing to see here.

'redstate.com' give us a break

lol and that shows your confrimation bias, even Vox, thought she got schooled here. Frankly I think the woman is irresponsible.

Look Cortez is a complete drama queen and has clearly lied aqnd fabricated many claims. She openly went against suppoting extra money to help combat this problem, because she again openly wants to scrap borders. Which is insanity. She is simple using the situation to further push herr own socialist beliefs. I mean when she was exposed for looking upset at an empty carpark, that was simple pricless. I place her on a par with Trump in stupidity and dishonesty

I could have posted a number of articles on this, but though this one would more rattle some cages, a it clearly has

It hasn't rattled any cages, didge, don't be silly. It is just a reach for RWers looking to spin these things where they are normally having the floor wiped with them.

by Guest Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:17 am

Eilzel wrote:
phildidge wrote:

lol and that shows your confrimation bias, even Vox, thought she got schooled here. Frankly I think the woman is irresponsible.

Look Cortez is a complete drama queen and has clearly lied aqnd fabricated many claims. She openly went against suppoting extra money to help combat this problem, because she again openly wants to scrap borders. Which is insanity. She is simple using the situation to further push herr own socialist beliefs. I mean when she was exposed for looking upset at an empty carpark, that was simple pricless. I place her on a par with Trump in stupidity and dishonesty

I could have posted a number of articles on this, but though this one would more rattle some cages, a it clearly has

It hasn't rattled any cages, didge, don't be silly. It is just a reach for RWers looking to spin these things where they are normally having the floor wiped with them.

I am not what you could call a right winger though am I Eilzel? My only right wing views are based on solid sound sense around economics and security.

I am first and foremost a secularist

by Raggamuffin Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:28 am

I don't see what the fuss is about. She asked some questions and he answered.

by Eilzel Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:39 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:I don't see what the fuss is about. She asked some questions and he answered.

Exactly.

by gelico Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:39 pm

she is dumb and playing on emotions

if you want to be a criminal don't take your kid along with you.

would you take your kid with you to rob someone's house?

stupid fool that she is

and of course, many of the photos are actually from the obama period when he put kids in cages but no one speaks of that

Rolling Eyes

by Guest Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:12 pm

gelico wrote:
she is dumb and playing on emotions

if you want to be a criminal don't take your kid along with you.

would you take your kid with you to rob someone's house?

stupid fool that she is

and of course, many of the photos are actually from the obama period when he put kids in cages but no one speaks of that

Ineeded Gelico

by Maddog Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:22 pm

She's a good dancer and fills out her T shirt nicely.

A better story about her would be how a black congressmen from Missouri called her out for calling Pelosi a racist.

Even Trump was defending Pelosi.

I have little use for Pelosi, but she is not a racist.

by Raggamuffin Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:29 pm

I don't really get why this woman is ridiculed and criticised so much. I don't approve of illegally entering a country, particularly on bogus grounds, but I don't see why children are separated from their parents. If they're all there illegally and have no case for asylum then deport them, but why separate them whilst that's being decided?

by Guest Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:33 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:I don't really get why this woman is ridiculed and criticised so much. I don't approve of illegally entering a country, particularly on bogus grounds, but I don't see why children are separated from their parents. If they're all there illegally and have no case for asylum then deport them, but why separate them whilst that's being decided?

Because she constantly lies and manipulate situations

Like I said the pictures of her crying to an ampty carpark was clearly staged and people actually fell for this

by Maddog Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:33 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:I don't really get why this woman is ridiculed and criticised so much. I don't approve of illegally entering a country, particularly on bogus grounds, but I don't see why children are separated from their parents. If they're all there illegally and have no case for asylum then deport them, but why separate them whilst that's being decided?

Because she is an attention whore trying to expand her Twitter following.

She makes some goid points now and then as do even some of the worst politicians.

by Eilzel Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:52 pm

Maddog wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:I don't really get why this woman is ridiculed and criticised so much. I don't approve of illegally entering a country, particularly on bogus grounds, but I don't see why children are separated from their parents. If they're all there illegally and have no case for asylum then deport them, but why separate them whilst that's being decided?

Because she is an attention whore trying to expand her Twitter following.

She makes some goid points now and then as do even some of the worst politicians.

Have you seen your POTUS's twitter? Anyone else looks subdued in comparison Laughing

by Maddog Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:03 pm

Eilzel wrote:
Maddog wrote:

Because she is an attention whore trying to expand her Twitter following.

She makes some goid points now and then as do even some of the worst politicians.

Have you seen your POTUS's twitter? Anyone else looks subdued in comparison

Good comparison. Personally I think Trump has some emotional/mental issues. AOC likely has some too and proves near daily that she is about as equally uninformed.

by Original Quill Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:09 pm

America is following Germany in 1932, and ICE is the ‘brown shirts’ of the movement. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez opposes them. If you like seeing babies in cages, of course you are going to laugh at her.

In her exchange with Tom Homan she was deliberate and to the point. He was evasive. When a respondent is being evasive, you have to pause now and then to look over the terrain where they are going.

Only the most superficial would see that as a negative. That is a person playing with games, not brains.

by Maddog Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:25 am

Original Quill wrote:America is following Germany in 1932, and ICE is the ‘brown shirts’ of the movement. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez opposes them. If you like seeing babies in cages, of course you are going to laugh at her.

In her exchange with Tom Homan she was deliberate and to the point. He was evasive. When a respondent is being evasive, you have to pause now and then to look over the terrain where they are going.

Only the most superficial would see that as a negative. That is a person playing with games, not brains.

Simmer down and Google Godwins law.

by 'Wolfie Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:26 am

The best comparisons I can find for the current levels of hard-hearted scum-bagginess and indifference obvious amongst so many US border patrol and immigration services would have to be the Japanese soldiers assigned to guard their POW camps during WWII...

Select the "worse of the worst" and assign them to those remote and frontier duties..

by Maddog Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:54 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

The best comparisons I can find for the current levels of hard-hearted scum-bagginess and indifference obvious amongst so many US border patrol and immigration services would have to be the Japanese soldiers assigned to guard their POW camps during WWII...

Select the "worse of the worst" and assign them to those remote and frontier duties..

Wouldn't a better comparison be the people in charge of guarding Anericans of Japanese descent who were placed in internment camps by FDR?

by Original Quill Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:32 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

The best comparisons I can find for the current levels of hard-hearted scum-bagginess and indifference obvious amongst so many US border patrol and immigration services would have to be the Japanese soldiers assigned to guard their POW camps during WWII...

Select the "worse of the worst" and assign them to those remote and frontier duties..

I do agree. Asians, be they Japanese or Vietnamese, are the most accomplished when it comes to cruelty to prisoners of war. But we (the US) are not far behind. Abu Ghraib proved that.

It is no surprise that child-rapist Trump has a cavalier attitude toward caging of children. His strain comes from a long line of American behaviors toward helpless people: My Lai, Abu Ghraib, Mahmudiyah, rendition, torture, rape and other options that drag the US back into the scum of the uncivilized.

It's just Americans, again, talking out of both sides of their mouth. We talk humanitarian values and then build Concentration Camps to put victims in. Americans talk a good game, but then engage in atrocious behaviors they ultimately find acceptable.

This is a country born believing there is nothing wrong with brutality and slavery. What do ya expect? Americans clutch onto their guns, and kill children in their own schools, while talking about bringing peace and democracy to other parts of the world. If that isn’t hypocrisy, what is?

by Guest Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:16 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

The best comparisons I can find for the current levels of hard-hearted scum-bagginess and indifference obvious amongst so many US border patrol and immigration services would have to be the Japanese soldiers assigned to guard their POW camps during WWII...

Select the "worse of the worst" and assign them to those remote and frontier duties..

And that just happens to be the most absurd unfounded nonsense you have ever spouted. Fo r you to make a comparrison, insults the victimss that suffered in such appalling camps by the Japanese, that were worked and sstarved to death, beheaded for the slightest infractions etc. When people invoke such idiotic comparrisons, you know they have lost all balance of reason. The left always do this, to invoking a view, to whip up anger, through utterly irresponsible invented claims. Having no care or consequence on whether this could effect the very people working on the border or in the dentention centers. So is the point relevant, that a a Far left extremnist was shot dead trying to burn one of the facilities down

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/tacoma-ice-police-shooting-washington-willem-van-spronsen-antifa-detention-centre-a9004131.html

by Maddog Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:46 pm

Original Quill wrote:
WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

The best comparisons I can find for the current levels of hard-hearted scum-bagginess and indifference obvious amongst so many US border patrol and immigration services would have to be the Japanese soldiers assigned to guard their POW camps during WWII...

Select the "worse of the worst" and assign them to those remote and frontier duties..

I do agree. Asians, be they Japanese or Vietnamese, are the most accomplished when it comes to cruelty to prisoners of war. But we (the US) are not far behind. Abu Ghraib proved that.

It is no surprise that child-rapist Trump has a cavalier attitude toward caging of children. His strain comes from a long line of American behaviors toward helpless people: My Lai, Abu Ghraib, Mahmudiyah, rendition, torture, rape and other options that drag the US back into the scum of the uncivilized.

It's just Americans, again, talking out of both sides of their mouth. We talk humanitarian values and then build Concentration Camps to put victims in. Americans talk a good game, but then engage in atrocious behaviors they ultimately find acceptable.

This is a country born believing there is nothing wrong with brutality and slavery. What do ya expect? Americans clutch onto their guns, and kill children in their own schools, while talking about bringing peace and democracy to other parts of the world. If that isn’t hypocrisy, what is?

Are you an American?

by Original Quill Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:31 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

I do agree. Asians, be they Japanese or Vietnamese, are the most accomplished when it comes to cruelty to prisoners of war. But we (the US) are not far behind. Abu Ghraib proved that.

It is no surprise that child-rapist Trump has a cavalier attitude toward caging of children. His strain comes from a long line of American behaviors toward helpless people: My Lai, Abu Ghraib, Mahmudiyah, rendition, torture, rape and other options that drag the US back into the scum of the uncivilized.

It's just Americans, again, talking out of both sides of their mouth. We talk humanitarian values and then build Concentration Camps to put victims in. Americans talk a good game, but then engage in atrocious behaviors they ultimately find acceptable.

This is a country born believing there is nothing wrong with brutality and slavery. What do ya expect? Americans clutch onto their guns, and kill children in their own schools, while talking about bringing peace and democracy to other parts of the world. If that isn’t hypocrisy, what is?

Are you an American?

Denial is the stupid man's way of finding virtue. Who cares who is an American? Truth has an entity of its own.

Your attitude is a study in precisely how evil acts are embraced by a nation, turning it bad. Do you deny My Lai, Abu Ghraib, Mahmudiyah? Wasn't it America who took over from the Germans practices like torture, kidnapping, rendition and rape?

So, what does a nation that does evil do to justify itself? Of course, you've got to find a way to rationalize it. Appeal to your nationalism and xenophobia, and fook everyone else. Hence the question: "Are you an American?" Not until it hits your wife, your grandparents, or one of your children, does it come down to earth and sink in. By then, it's too late.

by Maddog Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:45 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:

Are you an American?

Denial is the stupid man's way of finding virtue. Who cares who is an American? Truth has an entity of its own.

Your attitude is a study in precisely how evil acts are embraced by a nation, turning it bad. Do you deny My Lai, Abu Ghraib, Mahmudiyah? Wasn't it America who took over from the Germans practices like torture, kidnapping, rendition and rape?

So, what does a nation that does evil do to justify itself? Of course, you've got to find a way to rationalize it. Appeal to your nationalism and xenophobia, and fook everyone else. Hence the question: "Are you an American?" Not until it hits your wife, your grandparents, or one of your children, does it come down to earth and sink in. By then, it's too late.

Is that a yes or a no?

by Maddog Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:46 pm

Original Quill wrote:
WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

The best comparisons I can find for the current levels of hard-hearted scum-bagginess and indifference obvious amongst so many US border patrol and immigration services would have to be the Japanese soldiers assigned to guard their POW camps during WWII...

Select the "worse of the worst" and assign them to those remote and frontier duties..

I do agree. Asians, be they Japanese or Vietnamese, are the most accomplished when it comes to cruelty to prisoners of war. But we (the US) are not far behind. Abu Ghraib proved that.

It is no surprise that child-rapist Trump has a cavalier attitude toward caging of children. His strain comes from a long line of American behaviors toward helpless people: My Lai, Abu Ghraib, Mahmudiyah, rendition, torture, rape and other options that drag the US back into the scum of the uncivilized.

It's just Americans, again, talking out of both sides of their mouth. We talk humanitarian values and then build Concentration Camps to put victims in. Americans talk a good game, but then engage in atrocious behaviors they ultimately find acceptable.

This is a country born believing there is nothing wrong with brutality and slavery. What do ya expect? Americans clutch onto their guns, and kill children in their own schools, while talking about bringing peace and democracy to other parts of the world. If that isn’t hypocrisy, what is?

Do Asians lose their cruelty when they live in America a while? Shocked

by Original Quill Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:35 pm

Maddog wrote:Do Asians lose their cruelty when they live in America a while?

Yes, I think they do. They become exemplary Americans, from all I can see.

I don't know to each other, tho. There have been several Asian-on-Asian home invasions with the many who settled here in the Bay area.

by 'Wolfie Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:05 am

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

I do agree. Asians, be they Japanese or Vietnamese, are the most accomplished when it comes to cruelty to prisoners of war. But we (the US) are not far behind. Abu Ghraib proved that.

It is no surprise that child-rapist Trump has a cavalier attitude toward caging of children. His strain comes from a long line of American behaviors toward helpless people: My Lai, Abu Ghraib, Mahmudiyah, rendition, torture, rape and other options that drag the US back into the scum of the uncivilized.

It's just Americans, again, talking out of both sides of their mouth. We talk humanitarian values and then build Concentration Camps to put victims in. Americans talk a good game, but then engage in atrocious behaviors they ultimately find acceptable.

This is a country born believing there is nothing wrong with brutality and slavery. What do ya expect? Americans clutch onto their guns, and kill children in their own schools, while talking about bringing peace and democracy to other parts of the world. If that isn’t hypocrisy, what is?

Do Asians lose their cruelty when they live in America a while?

Often times, but not always...

Going only on seeing Asian settlers here in Oz, (Chinese, Vietnamese, Cambodians, Malaysians, Koreans -- tends to be less Japanese here than in the USA..), and without 'over-generalising' -- many will be gentler, more open, less defensive, than what they might have been back in their more crowded (and more cruel..) homelands -- but some will maintain their mean, cruel, more sneaky attitudes (as will many from Europe and Africa as well, to be fair..).

However, the next two generations do tend to see a continuing "watering down" of those attitudes -- so that the 2nd and 3rd-generation native-born Asians in the main seem to be more 'Aussie-ised' or 'Americanised' than their grandparents were.

Showing how much effect the culture and environment they grow up in can effect the negative traits of various peoples -- need look no further than America's own "Bible belt", to see how much irrational contempt those crazy rednecks and 'Evangelist' types hold towards environmental protections, "liberals", adequate healthcare, "a fair days pay for a fair days work", gun control laws, etc.

by Maddog Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:13 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:Do Asians lose their cruelty when they live in America a while?

Yes, I think they do. They become exemplary Americans, from all I can see.

I don't know to each other, tho. There have been several Asian-on-Asian home invasions with the many who settled here in the Bay area.

Like This?

Americans clutch onto their guns, and kill children in their own schools, while talking about bringing peace and democracy to other parts of the world. If that isn’t hypocrisy, what is?

by Maddog Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:16 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Maddog wrote:

Do Asians lose their cruelty when they live in America a while?

Often times, but not always...

Going only on seeing Asian settlers here in Oz, (Chinese, Vietnamese, Cambodians, Malaysians, Koreans -- tends to be less Japanese here than in the USA..), and without 'over-generalising' -- many will be gentler, more open, less defensive, than what they might have been back in their more crowded (and more cruel..) homelands -- but some will maintain their mean, cruel, more sneaky attitudes (as will many from Europe and Africa as well, to be fair..).

However, the next two generations do tend to see a continuing "watering down" of those attitudes -- so that the 2nd and 3rd-generation native-born Asians in the main seem to be more 'Aussie-ised' or 'Americanised' than their grandparents were.

Showing how much effect the culture and environment they grow up in can effect the negative traits of various peoples -- need look no further than America's own "Bible belt", to see how much irrational contempt those crazy rednecks and 'Evangelist' types hold towards environmental protections, "liberals", adequate healthcare, "a fair days pay for a fair days work", gun control laws, etc.

I don't disagree with much if that either.

Until the end of that post you were fair and balanced, like Fox News. Cool

by Guest Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:20 pm

Maddog wrote:
WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

Often times, but not always...

Going only on seeing Asian settlers here in Oz, (Chinese, Vietnamese, Cambodians, Malaysians, Koreans -- tends to be less Japanese here than in the USA..), and without 'over-generalising' -- many will be gentler, more open, less defensive, than what they might have been back in their more crowded (and more cruel..) homelands -- but some will maintain their mean, cruel, more sneaky attitudes (as will many from Europe and Africa as well, to be fair..).

However, the next two generations do tend to see a continuing "watering down" of those attitudes -- so that the 2nd and 3rd-generation native-born Asians in the main seem to be more 'Aussie-ised' or 'Americanised' than their grandparents were.

Showing how much effect the culture and environment they grow up in can effect the negative traits of various peoples -- need look no further than America's own "Bible belt", to see how much irrational contempt those crazy rednecks and 'Evangelist' types hold towards environmental protections, "liberals", adequate healthcare, "a fair days pay for a fair days work", gun control laws, etc.

I don't disagree with much if that either.

Until the end of that post you were fair and balanced, like Fox News.

I find the funniest part that two people who claim to not be racist are claiming that asian people and their culture is inferior to white western culture.

Who would have though that eh?

Its priceless to read and they both call trump a racist?

Go figure

by Maddog Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:24 pm

phildidge wrote:
Maddog wrote:

I don't disagree with much if that either.

Until the end of that post you were fair and balanced, like Fox News.

I find the funniest part that two people who claim to not be racist are claiming that asian people and their culture is inferior to white western culture.

Who would have though that eh?

Its priceless to read and they both call trump a racist?

Go figure

Yeah, nothing like stereotypes eh?

by Guest Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:26 pm

The reality is this. All cultures, whether Asian, white, African and aboriginal, have a history of violence and acts of genocide. For people to make some of the most idiotic claims to people based on superficial racial status around these racial classifications. Fail to understand inate human nature, around greed and power. The vast majority of people are not like this. Where whilst some cultures hold some really abhorant views and beliefs. This does not mean to say this beliefs cannot be unlearnt. It means we should rightly condemn such poor cultural values, but they are not inate to racial groups. Being as we are one human species. It means within anyone racial group, there is a dominant group of around 5% that can and often do and commit violence. Its those that hold the power that create this

I just find it interesting that both Quill and Wolf are arguing from a position where they find western secular values to be superior to all others, based on what they now live in

by Guest Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:29 pm

Maddog wrote:
phildidge wrote:

I find the funniest part that two people who claim to not be racist are claiming that asian people and their culture is inferior to white western culture.

Who would have though that eh?

Its priceless to read and they both call trump a racist?

Go figure

Yeah, nothing like stereotypes eh?

Hvve a thanks

lol and indeed its coming from the left. Imagine if Trump had said this, as they had of said. They both would have been up in arms

Double standards eh?

Considering the African slave trade was fueled by many Afriucans out to make money from exploiting other Africans really shows they know nothing about exploitation and gree dof people in power

Racial sterotypes are born from a racist mindset. Cultural beliefs are different and things learnt.

by Original Quill Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:56 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

Yes, I think they do. They become exemplary Americans, from all I can see.

I don't know to each other, tho. There have been several Asian-on-Asian home invasions with the many who settled here in the Bay area.

Like This?

Americans clutch onto their guns, and kill children in their own schools, while talking about bringing peace and democracy to other parts of the world. If that isn’t hypocrisy, what is?

I'm not talking about Asians in that passage, Redneck. I'm talking about you. Don't you support guns? Don't guns kill children in schools? Writ large, you are responsible for those deaths.

Learn to take responsibility.

by Maddog Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:34 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:

Like This?

Americans clutch onto their guns, and kill children in their own schools, while talking about bringing peace and democracy to other parts of the world. If that isn’t hypocrisy, what is?

I'm not talking about Asians in that passage, Redneck. I'm talking about you. Don't you support guns? Don't guns kill children in schools? Writ large, you are responsible for those deaths.

Learn to take responsibility.

Are you saying Asians cant support those things when they become Americans?

Do you even know any Asians?

And not the old lady that does your laundry.

by Original Quill Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:57 pm

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

I'm not talking about Asians in that passage, Redneck. I'm talking about you. Don't you support guns? Don't guns kill children in schools? Writ large, you are responsible for those deaths.

Learn to take responsibility.

Are you saying Asians cant support those things when they become Americans?

Do you even know any Asians?

And not the old lady that does your laundry.

What the fuck are you rambling on about? You've lost the plot, Redneck.

by Maddog Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:49 am

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:

Are you saying Asians cant support those things when they become Americans?

Do you even know any Asians?

And not the old lady that does your laundry.

What the fuck are you rambling on about? You've lost the plot, Redneck.

Not hardly. I'm simply asking if you believe Asian Americans are less American than gringos like you and I?

by Original Quill Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:30 am

Maddog wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

What the fuck are you rambling on about? You've lost the plot, Redneck.

Not hardly. I'm simply asking if you believe Asian Americans are less American than gringos like you and I?

Why would you ask that? Are you drunk? You can't follow any line of thought. Are we seeing the uninhibited you come forward?

We started this by remarking what good citizens Asians are. Now you seem to be edging toward a racist diatribe. "Gringos like you and I"?? As opposed to what other people? Who are these "others" that are not white, such as you and I?

By the Spanish reference to "gringo", I take it where you really want to go is, you have a racial bias toward Latinos. Why? What did they ever do to you? Did they take a job away from you? Were you working in the cotton fields, when a truck load of Braceros came along and took over?

Or is there no more reason than you hate people of color...any color? You are, after all, a southerner, and that is the habit down there. I'm trying to make sense of why racial divides are important to you.

by 'Wolfie Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:17 am

phildidge wrote:The reality is this. All cultures, whether Asian, white, African and aboriginal, have a history of violence and acts of genocide. For people to make some of the most idiotic claims to people based on superficial racial status around these racial classifications. Fail to understand inate human nature, around greed and power. The vast majority of people are not like this. Where whilst some cultures hold some really abhorant views and beliefs. This does not mean to say this beliefs cannot be unlearnt. It means we should rightly condemn such poor cultural values, but they are not inate to racial groups. Being as we are one human species. It means within anyone racial group, there is a dominant group of around 5% that can and often do and commit violence. Its those that hold the power that create this

I just find it interesting that both Quill and Wolf are arguing from a position where they find western secular values to be superior to all others, based on what they now live in

Nowhere there did I claim anybody or anything to be "inferior" or "superior", Dodge...

You're the only one here introducing those terms into this discussion..

Go figure !

by Guest Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:58 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
phildidge wrote:The reality is this. All cultures, whether Asian, white, African and aboriginal, have a history of violence and acts of genocide. For people to make some of the most idiotic claims to people based on superficial racial status around these racial classifications. Fail to understand inate human nature, around greed and power. The vast majority of people are not like this. Where whilst some cultures hold some really abhorant views and beliefs. This does not mean to say this beliefs cannot be unlearnt. It means we should rightly condemn such poor cultural values, but they are not inate to racial groups. Being as we are one human species. It means within anyone racial group, there is a dominant group of around 5% that can and often do and commit violence. Its those that hold the power that create this

I just find it interesting that both Quill and Wolf are arguing from a position where they find western secular values to be superior to all others, based on what they now live in

Nowhere there did I claim anybody or anything to be "inferior" or "superior", Dodge...

You're the only one here introducing those terms into this discussion..

Go figure !

I am going off what you said, I suggest you look back and read what you said

Go figure

by nicko Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:25 am

"Gringo" said to be taken from the Soldiers singing "green grow the Rushes oh" , Bit of useless information for you all !

by Maddog Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:13 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Maddog wrote:

Not hardly. I'm simply asking if you believe Asian Americans are less American than gringos like you and I?

Why would you ask that? Are you drunk? You can't follow any line of thought. Are we seeing the uninhibited you come forward?

We started this by remarking what good citizens Asians are. Now you seem to be edging toward a racist diatribe. "Gringos like you and I"?? As opposed to what other people? Who are these "others" that are not white, such as you and I?

By the Spanish reference to "gringo", I take it where you really want to go is, you have a racial bias toward Latinos. Why? What did they ever do to you? Did they take a job away from you? Were you working in the cotton fields, when a truck load of Braceros came along and took over?

Or is there no more reason than you hate people of color...any color? You are, after all, a southerner, and that is the habit down there. I'm trying to make sense of why racial divides are important to you.

I didn't bring up race. You did comrade.

by Maddog Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:14 pm

nicko wrote: "Gringo" said to be taken from the Soldiers singing "green grow the Rushes oh" , Bit of useless information for you all !

And it's not remotely racist.

Nor is the feminine term gringa.

by Maddog Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:17 pm

Quill wrote:Asians, be they Japanese or Vietnamese, are the most accomplished when it comes to cruelty to prisoners of war.I don't

by nicko Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:24 pm

I saw the results of VC torturing in Nam, a yank soldier nailed to a tree by his hands, and the Skin peeled of his Body ! They were vicious scum !

by Guest Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:29 pm

nicko wrote:I saw the results of VC torturing in Nam, a yank soldier nailed to a tree by his hands, and the Skin peeled of his Body ! They were vicious scum !

Was it ideologies that cuased this barbarity and hate or their ethnicity?

Do you think English people are vicious scum for murdering women and children in concentration camps in South Africa?

Does this make the Americans vicious scum for the My Lai Massacre?

Does this make Germans vicious scum, for the Holocaust?

Its hateful beliefs that is the problem. Which again you find happen within all social construct racial groups

That does not mean any single racial group is vicious scum, does it Nicko?

It means people that enact hateful beliefs are a huge problem and need to be called out for their hate

Conflating hateful beliefs to racial groups, is how racism began in the first place

by Guest Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:48 pm

Are you on twitter Maddog?

by Guest Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:57 pm

Just if you are, would happy follow you.... We may not agree all the time, but you make some really great points... Laughing

Plus I am sure many would enjoy them also

Catch you later

Also anyone else on twitter happy to follow you also from here....Let me know your name via PM Laughing

Mine is the same on here

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