Speak of the Devil: How Demonizing "Whiteness" Spreads White Nationalism | Bret Weinstein

Ben Reilly wrote:Wow, there must be an awful lot of very sensitive white people out there, if being criticized makes them want to run all the non-whites out of the country.

phildidge wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:Wow, there must be an awful lot of very sensitive white people out there, if being criticized makes them want to run all the non-whites out of the country.

Failed to grasp the point I see

At no point did the video make a view on the sensitivity of people, but how a proportion of society, can ostracize a sizeable group into a courner and the possible consequences of this. Do you not rationalise hyposthesis or do you deal in constant SJW babble?

You never actually listened to a single thiong said did you?

Ben Reilly wrote:

phildidge wrote:

Failed to grasp the point I see

At no point did the video make a view on the sensitivity of people, but how a proportion of society, can ostracize a sizeable group into a courner and the possible consequences of this. Do you not rationalise hyposthesis or do you deal in constant SJW babble?

You never actually listened to a single thiong said did you?

I didn't watch the video, but I think it's safe to say that it's about people demonizing whiteness, and that leads white people to become white nationalists?

If that's not the theme, perhaps we should change the thread title.

And I'm just saying that if someone resorts to extremism because someone criticizes them, that's pathetic.

phildidge wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

phildidge wrote:

Failed to grasp the point I see

At no point did the video make a view on the sensitivity of people, but how a proportion of society, can ostracize a sizeable group into a courner and the possible consequences of this. Do you not rationalise hyposthesis or do you deal in constant SJW babble?

You never actually listened to a single thiong said did you?

I didn't watch the video, but I think it's safe to say that it's about people demonizing whiteness, and that leads white people to become white nationalists?

If that's not the theme, perhaps we should change the thread title.

And I'm just saying that if someone resorts to extremism because someone criticizes them, that's pathetic.

So let me get this straight.

You did not watch the video and hence why you made such an idiotic view point?

Bret is actually a lefty in every sense of the word. So instead of making poor and uneducated assumptions. How about you actually watch the video, before making such really ignorant answers.

Do you dare to do so?

Ben Reilly wrote:

phildidge wrote:


So let me get this straight.

You did not watch the video and hence why you made such an idiotic view point?

Bret is actually a lefty in every sense of the word. So instead of making poor and uneducated assumptions. How about you actually watch the video, before making such really ignorant answers.

Do you dare to do so?

So is the topic of the video not actually "How Demonizing "Whiteness" Spreads White Nationalism"?

Ben Reilly wrote:Did I say it would only be pathetic for white people to react that way, and not for other races?

phildidge wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:Did I say it would only be pathetic for white people to react that way, and not for other races?

How many times are you going to dodge this with whataboutism and never actually asnwer points made to you?

Simple question again.

Do you think the demonisation of Muslims, can lead to some Muslims feeling they are pushed into a courner and fall foul of extremist Islamism ideology. Yes or no?

Ben Reilly wrote:

phildidge wrote:


How many times are you going to dodge this with whataboutism and never actually asnwer points made to you?

Simple question again.

Do you think the demonisation of Muslims, can lead to some Muslims feeling they are pushed into a courner and fall foul of extremist Islamism ideology. Yes or no?

Sure! Now ask me if I think that's pathetic, which is the point I actually made.

eddie wrote:There is one poster on here that seems to demonise white people and that’s Quill.
That’s all I’ll say until he replies to the thread because I don’t want to sit here and misquote him.

eddie wrote:Your debate with Ben has nothing to do with me. I didn’t watch the video either so I am refraining from comment except to say that I do think there’s a “hate whites” from some white people who are a little superior and think that they have to love every other colour but their own and that it’s cool to hate on white people.

eddie wrote:I just said I’m not getting involved because I haven’t even followed the debate and I didn’t watch the video and that I do think there’s definitely a white hate from some whites.

Jeez.  

Ben Reilly wrote:

eddie wrote:Didge, how is he “hiding behind me”? He was debating with you before I even arrived on the thread! And I can tell you, he and I often debate heatedly. He is nothing if not very open about his views.

I’ve nothing further to add other than what I’ve already said.

Ben Reilly wrote:

phildidge wrote:

eddie wrote:Didge, how is he “hiding behind me”? He was debating with you before I even arrived on the thread! And I can tell you, he and I often debate heatedly. He is nothing if not very open about his views.

I’ve nothing further to add other than what I’ve already said.

Then why use a smile of being asleep?
Why avoid my questions?
Why are you now involved in a debate that was between him and me?
Great that you often debate, but with me, he hides behind you, as is shown here, that now we are debating this and not him
I like Ben, but he is a coward and hides behind you
He never watched the video
He made poor views and when taken to task, he called for eddie backup
So allow him to speak for himself instead of a smille snooze
He is not making himself look intlligent that way is he?
What annoys me no end, is he thinks to make a view on a video he never watched.
Its like him being a film critic whilst never watching ever a movie

eddie wrote:

phildidge wrote:


Then why use a smile of being asleep?
Why avoid my questions?
Why are you now involved in a debate that was between him and me?
Great that you often debate, but with me, he hides behind you, as is shown here, that now we are debating this and not him
I like Ben, but he is a coward and hides behind you
He never watched the video
He made poor views and when taken to task, he called for eddie backup
So allow him to speak for himself instead of a smille snooze
He is not making himself look intlligent that way is he?
What annoys me no end, is he thinks to make a view on a video he never watched.
Its like him being a film critic whilst never watching ever a movie

Jesus. He called me for backup? What are you, like fifteen?  
I clicked on the thread INDEPENDENTLY.
And why can’t I make a comment on a debate???

Stop lumping us together didge. It’s getting boring and also makes you look pathetic.

No one else feels the need to do this and quite frankly, you need to stop doing it as it’s just childish.

Now I’m going to leave you to it seeing as you’re just chatting breeze now fam.

phildidge wrote:So we can conclude Ben is a pussy and needs his wife to argue for him and when she fails, she posts thought provoking statements.

Wow, thank goodness i dont have Tommy as my boy wonder

Bret wrote:
Each of us should consider if our algorithm-bubble is making something rare seem common to us. Let's just agree to that for the foreseeable future. That said, "whiteness" is a special concept. It functions like a diagnosis of demonic possession, not a lecture. I have faced it.

https://twitter.com/BretWeinstein/status/1139559724645400576

The left IS increasingly defined by its extremists who, by leveraging stigma, are wielding disproportionate power in universities, media, tech giants.  The far-right is scary, but it is not bossing the center around. The concept of "whiteness", however, can't help but empower it.

https://twitter.com/BretWeinstein/status/1139570567680425985

I would far prefer to be talking about other issues, but this one is the historical equivalent of smoking in the fireworks factory.

P.S. For two years I have consistently championed the traditional left in every conceivable venue, including congress



https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=324&v=uRIKJCKWla4

https://twitter.com/BretWeinstein/status/1139570568594743296