Man stabbed to death in broad daylight in a Tesco parking lot in Slough

A MAN was today stabbed to death in front of terrified Tesco shoppers.

Cops rushed to the supermarket's car park in Slough, Berks, at 12.32pm following reports of a stabbing.

They found a man had been critically injured and he was taken to hospital.

But he was pronounced dead a short time later and cops have now launched a murder investigation.

His next of kin have not been informed and the knifeman is still at large.

Cops are already reviewing CCTV and have describing the attack as a "shocking incident".

The store has been forced to shut the car park however there is no suggestion the supermarket has been closed.

Ben Reilly wrote:

A MAN was today stabbed to death in front of terrified Tesco shoppers.

Cops rushed to the supermarket's car park in Slough, Berks, at 12.32pm following reports of a stabbing.

They found a man had been critically injured and he was taken to hospital.

But he was pronounced dead a short time later and cops have now launched a murder investigation.

His next of kin have not been informed and the knifeman is still at large.

Cops are already reviewing CCTV and have describing the attack as a "shocking incident".

The store has been forced to shut the car park however there is no suggestion the supermarket has been closed.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9030038/slough-stabbing-man-knifed-to-death-tesco/

Must have been a horrific thing to witness ...

eddie wrote:Maddog, don’t let Syl hear you say that. She’s very annoyed.

Victorismyhero wrote:Ban knives

Ben Reilly wrote:

A MAN was today stabbed to death in front of terrified Tesco shoppers.

Cops rushed to the supermarket's car park in Slough, Berks, at 12.32pm following reports of a stabbing.

They found a man had been critically injured and he was taken to hospital.

But he was pronounced dead a short time later and cops have now launched a murder investigation.

His next of kin have not been informed and the knifeman is still at large.

Cops are already reviewing CCTV and have describing the attack as a "shocking incident".

The store has been forced to shut the car park however there is no suggestion the supermarket has been closed.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9030038/slough-stabbing-man-knifed-to-death-tesco/

Must have been a horrific thing to witness ...

Victorismyhero wrote:nope..

but

if you can justify banning guns then since knives take more lives (in the UK) every year than guns......

then a ban on knives is also justified...of course professional users with suitable background checks and an expensive licence and suitable security could continue to use them.......

Victorismyhero wrote:so are knives

eddie wrote:

Victorismyhero wrote:so are knives

We use them for eating food.
Guns are unnecessary, they just are.

eddie wrote:

Victorismyhero wrote:so are knives

We use them for eating food.
Guns are unnecessary, they just are.

Victorismyhero wrote:Ban knives

Maddog wrote:

eddie wrote:

We use them for eating food.
Guns are unnecessary, they just are.

American Indians had that opinion for awhile. Probably too long in the opinion of many of their ancestors.

The descendants of Zulu Warriors may also share that opinion.          

Victorismyhero wrote:the highly processed crap the anti gun lefty luvvies eat can be further processed from tasteless lumps into tasteless mush so you can eat it with a (rubber) spoon

Banned knives and weapons

• butterfly knives (also known as ‘balisongs’) - a blade hidden inside a handle that splits in the middle
  
  
• disguised knives - a blade or sharp point hidden inside what looks like everyday objects such as a buckle, phone, brush or lipstick
  
  
• flick knives (also known as ‘switchblades’ or ‘automatic knives’) - a blade hidden inside a handle which shoots out when a button is pressed
  
  
• gravity knives
  
  
• stealth knives - a knife or spike not made from metal (except when used at home, for food or a toy)
  
  
• zombie knives - a knife with a cutting edge, a serrated edge and images or words suggesting it is used for violence
  
  
• swords, including samurai swords - a curved blade over 50cm (with some exceptions, such as antiques and swords made to traditional methods before 1954)
  
  
• sword-sticks - a hollow walking stick or cane containing a blade
  
  
• push daggers
  
  
• blowpipes (‘blow gun’)
  
  
• telescopic truncheons - extend automatically by pressing button or spring in the handle
  
  
• batons - straight, side-handled or friction-lock truncheons
  
  
• hollow kubotans - a cylinder-shaped keychain holding spikes
  
  
• shurikens (also known as ‘shaken’, ‘death stars’ or ‘throwing stars’)
  
  
• kusari-gama - a sickle attached to a rope, cord or wire
  
  
• kyoketsu-shoge - a hook-knife attached to a rope, cord or wire
  
  
• kusari (or ‘manrikigusari’) - a weight attached to a rope, cord, wire
  
  
• hand or foot-claws
  
  
• knuckledusters
  
  

Victorismyhero wrote:whataboutism is a lefty "make-a -word" used in order to avoid discussion on topics they feel incapable of handling

the fact remains that knife deaths exceed gun deaths in the UK...(and thats all that matters for the purpose of THIS discussion) by a considerable factor, in fact its likely (though I havnt checked) that knife deaths today, exceed gun deaths occuring before the firearms act of the 60's
next you will be telling me that knives dont kill people do...

phildidge wrote:

Maddog wrote:

American Indians had that opinion for awhile. Probably too long in the opinion of many of their ancestors.

The descendants of Zulu Warriors may also share that opinion.          

Man alive is your history poor

phildidge wrote:We looked at murder rates from both weapons over a five-year period.

There were 34 firearm homicides in the US per million of population in 2016, compared with 0.48 shooting-related murders in the UK.

Knife murders are also higher stateside: there were 4.96 homicides “due to knives or cutting instruments” in the US for every million of population in 2016.

In Britain there were 3.26 homicides involving a sharp instrument per million people in the year from April 2016 to March 2017.


https://www.euronews.com/2018/05/05/trump-s-knife-crime-claim-how-do-the-us-and-uk-compare-

Which really debunks the gun verses knife claim

Yes, we have to tackle knife crimes, but it would be idiotic to ease access to guns in this country

Victorismyhero wrote:

phildidge wrote:We looked at murder rates from both weapons over a five-year period.

There were 34 firearm homicides in the US per million of population in 2016, compared with 0.48 shooting-related murders in the UK.

Knife murders are also higher stateside: there were 4.96 homicides “due to knives or cutting instruments” in the US for every million of population in 2016.

In Britain there were 3.26 homicides involving a sharp instrument per million people in the year from April 2016 to March 2017.


https://www.euronews.com/2018/05/05/trump-s-knife-crime-claim-how-do-the-us-and-uk-compare-

Which really debunks the gun verses knife claim

Yes, we have to tackle knife crimes, but it would be idiotic to ease access to guns in this country

I do wish you wouldnt make assumptions about what I am saying.....

nothing about easing acess to guns...whatsoever

making access to knives even more retrictive, especially since "the general population" do not in general "need" them since they can eat their processed crap with a rubber spoon.....is another issue...

Victorismyhero wrote:whataboutism is a lefty "make-a -word" used in order to avoid discussion on topics they feel incapable of handling

Maddog wrote:

phildidge wrote:

Man alive is your history poor

Are you saying the American Indian didn't often have a disadvantage in terms of firepower?

Victorismyhero wrote:

phildidge wrote:We looked at murder rates from both weapons over a five-year period.

There were 34 firearm homicides in the US per million of population in 2016, compared with 0.48 shooting-related murders in the UK.

Knife murders are also higher stateside: there were 4.96 homicides “due to knives or cutting instruments” in the US for every million of population in 2016.

In Britain there were 3.26 homicides involving a sharp instrument per million people in the year from April 2016 to March 2017.


https://www.euronews.com/2018/05/05/trump-s-knife-crime-claim-how-do-the-us-and-uk-compare-

Which really debunks the gun verses knife claim

Yes, we have to tackle knife crimes, but it would be idiotic to ease access to guns in this country

I do wish you wouldnt make assumptions about what I am saying.....

nothing about easing acess to guns...whatsoever

making access to knives even more retrictive, especially since "the general population" do not in general "need" them since they can eat their processed crap with a rubber spoon.....is another issue...

phildidge wrote:1) Actually eddie did and you replied to her on her stance on guns. I then countered your view. Hence you allowed the thread to digress and now clearly fear taking on the views I have made.

2) Piss poor comparrison as many things can be used to kill people, but with a knife how many people can you take out compared to a gun? Hence why you dont really see knife many spree killings and even then the numbers are relatively low compared to gun mass shootings.

still too many...how many did the london bridge attackers take out with the knife?

3) Fallacy response. To say that they should be banned, when guns are not even banned in this country and nobody is even calling for a ban on both. Again many types of knives are already banned as seen. Are the types of weapons being used within these murders. Hence banning them has done very little to thwart such murders happennning

because ...its not always banned types that are used but BIG kitchen knives

4) Even more absurd and a fallacy argument. Cars are not normally used to kill people deliberately. It does happen, but a car is neither designed to kill people. Where most deaths are accidental or through negligence. Guns are designed for one purpose, to kill and they do so in many cases. 

given the results are the same...does the motive matter.....health and safety for all

"oh and there is no such thing as a road traffic "accident" there is always "fault"...even if people dont like attributing the fault where it lies.......


5) The reality is you are claiming more gibberish. You can obtain guns in this country through strict licences. How else would you own a gun? So to say to ban something, which is not even being stated, but for more restrictions. Is you going further than what already exists for guns. As seen many knives are already banned and criminals are still gaining access to them. That is what needs to be tacklled.

6) I have no problem with stricter tighter laws to obtain a driving licence

phildidge wrote:1) 8 people died, with 4 attackers. Now imagine they had guns. Mutiple by at least 5 for the numbers of deaths

2) But the majority of said crimes are by banned knives and gun deaths are not always by banned guns. Hence irrelevant. What needs to happen, is to fine shops that sell illegal knives. I would say a hundred grand.

10 years for carrying, life for drawing and life without parole for using...no mitigation unless you can show self defense, say within your own home

3) Of course the motive matters and also the reality that cars are not designed to kill, but get people from A-B. You wanna try riding a bullet to get you from A-B. Again I have no objection to making licenses harder for driving. Just as it is with guns. Again we restrict access to guns, not fully ban them. We ban many knives, but we cannot restrict kitchen knives. As how would you enforce that?
4) So yes there is fault with accidents, but also sometimes people have a heart attack, or a stroke, pass out, hyper, hypo etc

Victorismyhero wrote:

phildidge wrote:1) 8 people died, with 4 attackers. Now imagine they had guns. Mutiple by at least 5 for the numbers of deaths

2) But the majority of said crimes are by banned knives and gun deaths are not always by banned guns. Hence irrelevant. What needs to happen, is to fine shops that sell illegal knives. I would say a hundred grand.

10 years for carrying, life for drawing and life without parole for using...no mitigation unless you can show self defense, say within your own home

3) Of course the motive matters and also the reality that cars are not designed to kill, but get people from A-B. You wanna try riding a bullet to get you from A-B. Again I have no objection to making licenses harder for driving. Just as it is with guns. Again we restrict access to guns, not fully ban them. We ban many knives, but we cannot restrict kitchen knives. As how would you enforce that?
4) So yes there is fault with accidents, but also sometimes people have a heart attack, or a stroke, pass out, hyper, hypo etc

nicko wrote:Problem, not enough Prisons, that's why Judges give out soft sentences because there's nowhere to put the criminals !

phildidge wrote:I will also add

There is already knives that are double handle

They still can slash people, but, you cannot stab people with them

Of course this still leaves the throat vunerable, but to me, we need to change the way we use knives with food. To deny people the ability to use knives as weapons

Does anyone object to this?

Or simple create knives with a flat end. Its the blade used to cut and there really is no need for the sharpened end

Those with sharpened end for sports/hunting would require a license

eddie wrote:

phildidge wrote:I will also add

There is already knives that are double handle

They still can slash people, but, you cannot stab people with them

Of course this still leaves the throat vunerable, but to me, we need to change the way we use knives with food. To deny people the ability to use knives as weapons

Does anyone object to this?

Or simple create knives with a flat end. Its the blade used to cut and there really is no need for the sharpened end

Those with sharpened end for sports/hunting would require a license

Great idea!

eddie wrote:I actually think it’s brilliant. Did you come up with the idea of knives with blunt ends?

phildidge wrote:

eddie wrote:I actually think it’s brilliant. Did you come up with the idea of knives with blunt ends?

Yeah I did, after Victor making me think on this to nullify his argument

I actually cant believe how simple this would be to help prevent knife crime

I would go more than blunt ends, but maken them square end

eddie wrote:

phildidge wrote:

Yeah I did, after Victor making me think on this to nullify his argument

I actually cant believe how simple this would be to help prevent knife crime

I would go more than blunt ends, but maken them square end

That is such a simple yet brilliant idea. Very clever of you.  I’m almost a tad jealous.
Truly, simply brilliant.  

phildidge wrote:

eddie wrote:

phildidge wrote:

Yeah I did, after Victor making me think on this to nullify his argument

I actually cant believe how simple this would be to help prevent knife crime

I would go more than blunt ends, but maken them square end

That is such a simple yet brilliant idea. Very clever of you.  I’m almost a tad jealous.
Truly, simply brilliant.  

No need, happy to go halves with you on profit.....of 20%

The rest has to go to help troubled families

nicko wrote:Problem, not enough Prisons, that's why Judges give out soft sentences because there's nowhere to put the criminals !

Tommy Monk wrote:

Just sell them with corks stuck on the ends of them... cos nobody would be able to take the corks off... just like nobody would be able to change a flat ended knife into a sharp pointy end...!!!???

phildidge wrote:

eddie wrote:I actually think it’s brilliant. Did you come up with the idea of knives with blunt ends?

Yeah I did, after Victor making me think on this to nullify his argument

I actually cant believe how simple this would be to help prevent knife crime

I would go more than blunt ends, but maken them square end