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Corbyn wasn't alone in speaking to the IRA.

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Post by Andy Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:02 pm

So was Thatcher.

Don't see many of the rabid, Corbyn hating smearing Tories hear mentioning that.

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Post by Victorismyhero Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:37 pm

Oh do stop trying to polish a turd.....
as quill would say.. the Tu Cuoque fallacy
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Post by Andy Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:03 pm

You calling Thatcher a turd?

Being kind to turds.
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Post by nicko Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:10 pm

Didn't see Mrs Thatcher going to many IRA Funerals or to ones for Hammas. Don't make yourself look any more of a fool Andy.
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Post by Andy Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:10 am

This gives good ammunition against anyone who mentions Corbyn and the IRA in the same sentence.
As an aside, didn't Major negotiate with the IRA as part of the Good Friday agreement.
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Post by nicko Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:08 am

And didn't Corbyn invite the IRA for tea in the Commons ? See Andy I can "top" you every time . Told you you'd look a fool. Give it up !
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Post by Andy Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:34 am

So you try to turn it into a Willy waving competition rather than engaging in debate.
It's a trait common to xenophobic far right wingers.
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Post by Fred Moletrousers Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:48 am

Andy wrote:So you try to turn it into a Willy waving competition rather than engaging in debate.
It's a trait common to xenophobic far right wingers.

I suppose that you'll also condemn as "xenophobic" and "far right" my suggestion that both Thatcher and Major were actually striving desperately to stop the bloodshed in Northern Ireland by dealing directly and face-to-face with all parties involved in "the troubles" on the grounds that they might well become significant figures in a future Ulster administration that could bring peace after centuries.

Corbyn's willingness to meet with them was simply a reflection of his hatred of the British establishment, and particularly the Tories, though he frequently defied the government whip and voted against his own party in Parliament.

Didn't he even proudly refer to Middle Eastern terrorists with a  record of bombing and murder similar to that of the IRA  as "our friends"?

Personally, I have nothing but praise and gratitude for all who were involved in the long, tortuous diplomatic talks that resulted in the Good Friday agreement - Tory, Labour, Northern Ireland minorities,  Southern Irish and American.

And I can only hope to God that the wrangling over the fine points of the "backstop" does not lead to a return to the carnage that we have seen in the past, something that I witnessed first hand, including in Belfast,  back in my days as a journalist.
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Post by Andy Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:09 pm

I worked in Belfast in the early 1990's. It was a frightening experience, and any return to anything like the troubles would be catastrophic.
Many brave politicians of all persuasions put peace ahead of their careers.
If we have no Brexit, that work could unravel.
With no Brexit, it is clearly a possibility for a return to violence.
It appears that some would relish it.
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Post by nicko Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:50 pm

Perhaps you didn't notice, I did 3 Tours of Ireland with the Para's . So if there's NO Brexit There'll be a return to violence then ? Your words, Ha Ha.
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Post by nicko Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:59 pm

Shot in the foot eh Andy ?
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Post by Andy Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:20 pm

No deal Brexit.

But you were always happier to negotiate with a gun than with dialogue.
We're you an angry and violent child as well?
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Post by Victorismyhero Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:12 pm

so the sins of one erases the sins of another does it andy......

I see....
and you always talk nonsense...were you a cnut as a child as well?
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Post by nicko Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:20 pm

NO Andy ,I was a little Angel, but when I got older I decided to fight those who were a danger to Britain !

What did YOU do in the war Daddy ?
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Post by Fred Moletrousers Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:00 pm

Green thingy from a Royal British Legion member and worker, mate.
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Post by nicko Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:00 pm

Cool
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