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Post by Guest Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:33 am

Shaun King Was Wrong Again prompting the Young Turks Delete Their Videos.

Initially the left wing activist sought out a 40 year old white man as a suspect. But it turned out the white man was likely a witness to the event and was fleeing for his life. Police eventually arrested a suspect thanks in part to a tip received by Shaun King.

But the social justice activist has now repeatedly pushed false narratives likely creating more harm than good.



https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/07/jazmine-barnes-shooting-shaun-king-tip-eric-black-jr

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Post by Ben Reilly Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:28 pm

Shaun King should never be trusted - I've seen him leap to conclusions like this many times, and when he's proven wrong, he never corrects the record.

He also wrote about my former paper, calling it "extremely far right," which it most certainly is not, and didn't even bother to get the name of the paper right.

He's all agenda with no allegiance to fact as far as I can tell.
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:49 pm

>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:Shaun King should never be trusted - I've seen him leap to conclusions like this many times, and when he's proven wrong, he never corrects the record.

He also wrote about my former paper, calling it "extremely far right," which it most certainly is not, and didn't even bother to get the name of the paper right.

He's all agenda with no allegiance to fact as far as I can tell.

He seems a complete race baiter and makes racism a hundred times worse

What did he claim about your former newspaper?

I hope your paper make him look like the liar he is.

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Post by Ben Reilly Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:52 pm

Thor wrote:
>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:Shaun King should never be trusted - I've seen him leap to conclusions like this many times, and when he's proven wrong, he never corrects the record.

He also wrote about my former paper, calling it "extremely far right," which it most certainly is not, and didn't even bother to get the name of the paper right.

He's all agenda with no allegiance to fact as far as I can tell.

He seems a complete race baiter and makes racism a hundred times worse

What did he claim about your former newspaper?

I hope your paper make him look like the liar he is.

There was a police shooting of a man in Arlington, TX named Oshea Terry (still under investigation) and one of my colleagues did an in-depth look at the holes in the police story and what a witness said happened.

He wrote an entry on his blog where he called us, I believe, the "Fort Worth Star" (it's the Star-Telegram) and said we were a really far-right paper, so it was stunning we didn't try to whitewash the shooting.
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:05 pm

>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:
Thor wrote:

He seems a complete race baiter and makes racism a hundred times worse

What did he claim about your former newspaper?

I hope your paper make him look like the liar he is.

There was a police shooting of a man in Arlington, TX named Oshea Terry (still under investigation) and one of my colleagues did an in-depth look at the holes in the police story and what a witness said happened.

He wrote an entry on his blog where he called us, I believe, the "Fort Worth Star" (it's the Star-Telegram) and said we were a really far-right paper, so it was stunning we didn't try to whitewash the shooting.

Blimey, did you counter his blog article?

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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:07 pm

Young Turks? Is that the programme where they jump to conclusions?
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Post by Maddog Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:17 pm

>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:
Thor wrote:

He seems a complete race baiter and makes racism a hundred times worse

What did he claim about your former newspaper?

I hope your paper make him look like the liar he is.

There was a police shooting of a man in Arlington, TX named Oshea Terry (still under investigation) and one of my colleagues did an in-depth look at the holes in the police story and what a witness said happened.

He wrote an entry on his blog where he called us, I believe, the "Fort Worth Star" (it's the Star-Telegram) and said we were a really far-right paper, so it was stunning we didn't try to whitewash the shooting.

The startlegram or Jim Wright gazette has never been right wing, even though they let that sanctimonious prick Richard Greene do editorials. Cool
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Post by Maddog Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:20 pm

And the police did lie about that shooting. I actually got a private message from the police spokesperson (Cook) trying to "explain" things to to me.
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Post by Ben Reilly Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:28 pm

Maddog wrote:
>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:
Thor wrote:

He seems a complete race baiter and makes racism a hundred times worse

What did he claim about your former newspaper?

I hope your paper make him look like the liar he is.

There was a police shooting of a man in Arlington, TX named Oshea Terry (still under investigation) and one of my colleagues did an in-depth look at the holes in the police story and what a witness said happened.

He wrote an entry on his blog where he called us, I believe, the "Fort Worth Star" (it's the Star-Telegram) and said we were a really far-right paper, so it was stunning we didn't try to whitewash the shooting.

The startlegram or Jim Wright gazette has never been right wing, even though they let that sanctimonious prick Richard Greene do editorials.  Cool

Jim Wright? Who's that?

Do you mean Jim Witt? He's been gone for years.
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Post by Maddog Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:56 pm

>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:
Maddog wrote:

The startlegram or Jim Wright gazette has never been right wing, even though they let that sanctimonious prick Richard Greene do editorials.  Cool

Jim Wright? Who's that?

Do you mean Jim Witt? He's been gone for years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Wright

Before your time. A time when the Dems ran everything around here, including the local papers. Smile
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Post by Ben Reilly Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:30 pm

Thor wrote:
>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:
Thor wrote:

He seems a complete race baiter and makes racism a hundred times worse

What did he claim about your former newspaper?

I hope your paper make him look like the liar he is.

There was a police shooting of a man in Arlington, TX named Oshea Terry (still under investigation) and one of my colleagues did an in-depth look at the holes in the police story and what a witness said happened.

He wrote an entry on his blog where he called us, I believe, the "Fort Worth Star" (it's the Star-Telegram) and said we were a really far-right paper, so it was stunning we didn't try to whitewash the shooting.

Blimey, did you counter his blog article?

I don't think we ever published anything refuting his post, though the reporter who wrote the article on Terry may have replied on his blog. I never followed up; I just know she was really pissed off Laughing
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Post by Ben Reilly Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:36 pm

This is what King wrote, and it was actually on Facebook:


Shaun King
October 2, 2018 ·
My apologies to anyone from the Fort Worth, TX area but it happens to be one of the most racist places on earth. That’s why this article published in a very conservative paper, The Fort Worth Star News, blew me a way. It is an example of journalism with integrity. The writer took an under reported shooting, objectively gathered facts, and presented them in an informative and neutral way. That should be common enough ... but it is not. In Fort Worth, TX it’s unheard of. After learning a little more about this writer it seems she’s new to the paper, and this important article is, not surprisingly, not doing so well. It needs more “clicks” or engagements. I think we can help. Here it is. Enjoy: https://www.star-telegram.com/…/arlin…/article218995140.html
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Post by Maddog Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:40 pm

>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:This is what King wrote, and it was actually on Facebook:


Shaun King
October 2, 2018 ·
My apologies to anyone from the Fort Worth, TX area but it happens to be one of the most racist places on earth. That’s why this article published in a very conservative paper, The Fort Worth Star News, blew me a way. It is an example of journalism with integrity. The writer took an under reported shooting, objectively gathered facts, and presented them in an informative and neutral way. That should be common enough ... but it is not. In Fort Worth, TX it’s unheard of. After learning a little more about this writer it seems she’s new to the paper, and this important article is, not surprisingly, not doing so well. It needs more “clicks” or engagements. I think we can help. Here it is. Enjoy: https://www.star-telegram.com/…/arlin…/article218995140.html


King is an elitist, whiney fake black dude with a shitty beard.
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Post by Ben Reilly Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:41 pm

Just to refute some of his points here:

1) the Fort Worth area is not "one of the most racist places on earth." King's obviously never been here. Eddie, on the other hand, has spent two weeks here, going to all sorts of places, so you could ask her about the people here as an outside perspective.

2) It's not the "Fort Worth Star News." Lazy, sloppy, easily checked but he just didn't even bother.

3) It's not a "very conservative paper." I don't think a very conservative paper would have endorsed Beto O'Rourke for Senate.

4) That article wasn't ever "not doing so well;" I remember seeing it dominate the metrics board in the newsroom for days, with well over 100 concurrent readers for a lengthy time. I'd estimate that article was read by at least 20,000 people, perhaps as many as 50,000 (which is a lot).

5) He'd have no way of knowing how the story was performing without access to our metrics or by asking someone at the paper. We didn't know he knew about the article until he posted on Facebook, so he pulled that out of his ass as well.
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Post by Ben Reilly Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:44 pm

Maddog wrote:Shaun King Was Wrong Again, Young Turks Delete Their Videos Fb_img10

Hahaha, he should start by retracting what he said about the Texas State Trooper falsely accused of sexually assaulting a black woman during a traffic stop. I wrote that one up:

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/state/texas/article211734544.html

By the way, Sherita Dixon-Cole promised to tell me her side of the story after I contacted her through Facebook. I never heard another peep out of her.
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Post by 'Wolfie Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:22 am

Smile

Anybody who believes that Shaun King character is a "black" person needs their eyes checked;
(Looking at those online photo's of him and comparing them to that video clip, I also wonder if he slapped the fake tan on before that appearance..).

I'm darker than that race-baiting hatemonger, yet I also have stated before that I usually think of myself as "caucasian", as that makes up around 7/8th of my heritage..

Down here, people with mixed backgrounds are often referred to as a "fruit salad" mix, even among themselves -- especially when some Aussies can have 4,5, 6 or more "ethnicities" thrown in there.
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Post by Raggamuffin Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:55 am

Never mind this Shaun King person, what about the videos which were deleted? As I understand it, Shaun King was hired by Young Turks, yes? What happened then? I can't find much info about it. Did he say things which the presenters just accepted without checking?

I have to say that I find those presenters a little biased, and they don't seem to check much before they spout off.
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Post by Ben Reilly Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:19 pm

A few points:

* At least King had the decency to turn over a lead that appears to have exonerated the original suspect

* The Washington Post should realize it's the Texas Department of Public Safety and there is no Texas Department of Safety

* In America, you're traditionally considered black if you have enough black ancestry that you don't look white: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-drop_rule
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:51 pm

>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:A few points:

* At least King had the decency to turn over a lead that appears to have exonerated the original suspect

* The Washington Post should realize it's the Texas Department of Public Safety and there is no Texas Department of Safety

* In America, you're traditionally considered black if you have enough black ancestry that you don't look white: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-drop_rule


But he again never apologised for his false accusations, which raising racial tensions and death threats Ben

He is Mixed ethnically as you state, but raised by two white parents, though his dad was his adopted father.
His biological dad, is mixed race.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_King#Questions_regarding_race

But to say people dont look white, is what exactly when he has mixed racial features? Its as if the white features are some how wrong and bad. This is what is wrong with people like this. They are emphatically racist themselves looking at everything through a coloured glass lens on skin colour. He should be happy with both his heritage but clear sees something inherantly wrong with people classed as white. To me he has aspects of both white and black ancestry.

Again the man creates as much racial problems as the Far right with his constant hate and lies

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Post by Maddog Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:47 pm

>THE Ben Reilly< wrote:A few points:

* At least King had the decency to turn over a lead that appears to have exonerated the original suspect

* The Washington Post should realize it's the Texas Department of Public Safety and there is no Texas Department of Safety

* In America, you're traditionally considered black if you have enough black ancestry that you don't look white: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-drop_rule
He turned over the information  and was bragging on his page the next day how HE solved the case!  

Shuan isn't really the problem.  His tens of thousands of supporters that worship him and hate the white devils are.
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Post by Maddog Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:25 pm

Shaun King vs Nathan Phillips. What's the difference?
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Post by Guest Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:29 pm

Maddog wrote:Shaun King vs Nathan Phillips. What's the difference?

Plenty


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Post by Maddog Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:45 pm

Thor wrote:
Maddog wrote:Shaun King vs Nathan Phillips. What's the difference?

Plenty

You just hate black people.
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Post by Guest Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:48 pm

Maddog wrote:
Thor wrote:

Plenty

You just hate black people.

Your words and views, not mine.


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Post by Guest Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:51 pm

I can easily point out the differences

Shaun is an advocate on the Internet and media

Nathan Phillips is generally at protests against taking Indgineous lands and at peace rallies

How are they even similar?

Shaun has countles times, (you compare this to two incidents with Nahan) spun stories for his own political agenda and has been caught out countless times

By the way he is also mixed ethnically

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Post by Maddog Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:51 pm

Thor wrote:
Maddog wrote:
You just hate black people.

Your words and views, not mine.

That's usually what folks that hate black people say.  After all, calling out one member of an ethnic group means you are racist towards all members of said group.  That's what I have learned the past few days.  Wink
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Post by Guest Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:53 pm

Maddog wrote:
Thor wrote:

Your words and views, not mine.

That's usually what folks that hate black people say.  After all, calling out one member of an ethnic group means you are racist towards all members of said group.  That's what I have learned the past few days.  Wink

Is it what people who hate blacks say?

I never once called you even racist

I said you had a subconscious racial or racist bias. Which means you are unaware when you do

You mocked the significance of the traditional song, basically being ignorant of their culture

So you have clearly learn plenty of the American right wing media to even skew over what I said to you

No surprise there then

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Post by Maddog Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:57 pm

Thor wrote:
Maddog wrote:
That's usually what folks that hate black people say.  After all, calling out one member of an ethnic group means you are racist towards all members of said group.  That's what I have learned the past few days.  Wink

Is it what people who hate blacks say?

I never once called you even racist

I said you had a subconscious racial or racist bias. Which means you are unaware when you do

You mocked the significance of the traditional song, basically being ignorant of their culture

So you have clearly learn plenty of the American right wing media to even skew over what I said to you

No surprise there then

I have a bias towards bullshit. Yours, Shaun King's and Nathan Phillips'.
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Post by Guest Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:03 pm

Maddog wrote:
Thor wrote:

Is it what people who hate blacks say?

I never once called you even racist

I said you had a subconscious racial or racist bias. Which means you are unaware when you do

You mocked the significance of the traditional song, basically being ignorant of their culture

So you have clearly learn plenty of the American right wing media to even skew over what I said to you

No surprise there then

I have a bias towards bullshit. Yours, Shaun King's and Nathan Phillips'.

lol, you poor cupcake

I proved you lost any rationality on the debate and it was you failing throughtout  to see that those kids did mock Nathan

Which is wrong, of which there is no excuse and yet , all you did was offer up poor excuses

Seriously go and have a sulk, I have better things to do.

Laters

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Post by Maddog Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:33 am

Thor wrote:
Maddog wrote:

I have a bias towards bullshit. Yours, Shaun King's and Nathan Phillips'.

lol, you poor cupcake

I proved you lost any rationality on the debate and it was you failing throughtout  to see that those kids did mock Nathan

Which is wrong, of which there is no excuse and yet , all you did was offer up poor excuses

Seriously go and have a sulk, I have better things to do.

Laters

Laughing
I dont sulk over forums, or anything anyone posts on them. 
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:07 am

Maddog wrote:
Thor wrote:

lol, you poor cupcake

I proved you lost any rationality on the debate and it was you failing throughtout  to see that those kids did mock Nathan

Which is wrong, of which there is no excuse and yet , all you did was offer up poor excuses

Seriously go and have a sulk, I have better things to do.

Laters

Laughing
I dont sulk over forums, or anything anyone posts on them. 
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Well you clearly do not seem to understand some simple words and get easily confused over them   Laughing

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Post by Maddog Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:51 pm

Thor wrote:
Maddog wrote:
I dont sulk over forums, or anything anyone posts on them. 
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Well you clearly do not seem to understand some simple words and get easily confused over them   Laughing

I understand words just fine. Often times I find someone using them in such a preposterous manner, that I ignore them.
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:06 pm

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Well you clearly do not seem to understand some simple words and get easily confused over them   Laughing

I understand words just fine. Often times I find someone using them in such a preposterous manner, that I ignore them.

So what does subconscious mean?


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Post by Maddog Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:39 pm

Thor wrote:
Maddog wrote:

I understand words just fine. Often times I find someone using them in such a preposterous manner, that I ignore them.

So what does subconscious mean?


Have someone else take your test. I don't operate that way.
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:52 pm

Maddog wrote:
Thor wrote:

So what does subconscious mean?


Have someone else take your test. I don't operate that way.

Okay cupcake, so I will take that as you not understanding which is evident throughout the times I have used it

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Post by Maddog Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:57 pm

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Have someone else take your test. I don't operate that way.

Okay cupcake, so I will take that as you not understanding which is evident throughout the times I have used it

Take it anyway you like. You're going to do that anyway.

"You have bias, harumpf, harumpf".

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Post by Guest Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:58 pm

Maddog wrote:
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Okay cupcake, so I will take that as you not understanding which is evident throughout the times I have used it

Take it anyway you like. You're going to do that anyway.

"You have bias, harumpf, harumpf".

 

I proved you do in the manner you speak around Native Indians

You simple dont want to accept that

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Post by Maddog Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:59 pm

Thor wrote:
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Take it anyway you like. You're going to do that anyway.

"You have bias, harumpf, harumpf".

 

I proved you do in the manner you speak around Native Indians

You simple dont want to accept that

You proved to yourself, what you want to believe.

Nothing more.
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:01 pm

Maddog wrote:
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I proved you do in the manner you speak around Native Indians

You simple dont want to accept that

You proved to yourself, what you want to believe.

Nothing more.

Actually I easily reasoned why, again you simple do not like the truth of the matter

You are just in a long line of the sickness that sadly effects the US today and unaware that you do

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Post by Maddog Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:04 pm

Thor wrote:
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You proved to yourself, what you want to believe.

Nothing more.

Actually I easily reasoned why, again you simple do not like the truth of the matter

You are just in a long line of the sickness that sadly effects the US today and unaware that you do

You think you did that. That's your opinion. What ever gets you through the night.
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Maddog wrote:
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Actually I easily reasoned why, again you simple do not like the truth of the matter

You are just in a long line of the sickness that sadly effects the US today and unaware that you do

You think you did that. That's your opinion. What ever gets you through the night.

Usuallly a good book, one historical

You should try some in regards to the Indigeneous of the US

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Post by Maddog Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:16 pm

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You think you did that. That's your opinion. What ever gets you through the night.

Usuallly a good book, one historical

You should try some in regards to the Indigeneous of the US

Does that book claim that Native Americans can't be dicks?

If so, it's fiction.
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Maddog wrote:
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Usuallly a good book, one historical

You should try some in regards to the Indigeneous of the US

Does that book claim that Native Americans can't be dicks?

If so, it's fiction.  

Many are about the genocide and ethnic cleansing they suffered

As well as every single treaty broken by the US governement with them

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Post by Maddog Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:26 am

Thor wrote:
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Does that book claim that Native Americans can't be dicks?

If so, it's fiction.  

Many are about the genocide and ethnic cleansing they suffered

As well as every single treaty broken by the US governement with them

Did that book say that native Americans can't be dicks? Is there something about them that makes it impossible?
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Maddog wrote:
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Many are about the genocide and ethnic cleansing they suffered

As well as every single treaty broken by the US governement with them

Did that book say that native Americans can't be dicks? Is there something about them that makes it impossible?  

It talks of some attrocities also committing by Native Indians, but clearly does not use infantile language like yourself

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Post by Maddog Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:26 pm

Thor wrote:
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Did that book say that native Americans can't be dicks? Is there something about them that makes it impossible?  

It talks of some attrocities also committing by Native Indians, but clearly does not use infantile language like yourself


Your missing the point.  Can an individual with mostly Native blood be a  bad person?
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It talks of some attrocities also committing by Native Indians, but clearly does not use infantile language like yourself


Your missing the point.  Can an individual with mostly Native blood be a  bad person?

All humans beings are capable of doing rights and wrongs

So why do you center on  Native indians for this?

Gotacha

You just exposed again that subconscious racial bias

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