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Recycling in the United States is in serious trouble

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Post by Lurker Sat Aug 25, 2018 6:43 pm

https://mashable.com/2018/08/18/how-recycling-works/#N87A5npZOmqQ

Recycling has worked well for the last 40 years because recycled waste was valuable and in high demand in countries around the world.

The United States has historically sold most of its recycled goods to China.

But new restrictions from the Chinese government on imported recyclables have demanded that the materials have very, very little contamination, or in the case of paper, that it is processed into pulp before reaching their shores.

Typically, contamination is a people issue. Plastic or paper with food remnants on it — like your greasy pizza box — cannot be recycled because those contaminants would mess up the refining process.

Contamination levels in America are at 25 percent right now, meaning 1 out 4 items in a recycling bin should actually be thrown in the trash, according to Waste Management. But China wants the contamination levels down to 0.3 percent, which is effectively code for "we will not be accepting any imported recyclable materials."

“China is sort of saying to itself we want our socioeconomic industrial programs to have recyclable programs like America does," National Waste & Recycling Association director Steve Changaris said.

"They are kicking us out, and trying to use their own wastes so they can develop their own domestic recycling capacity."
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Post by Original Quill Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:06 pm

Garbage-tainted plastic is no longer accepted. But fear not, Silicon valley is on it. Saw an article on TV this morning...they are inventing a new process that chemically extracts the plastic from the garbage. The plastics become pellets for reuse, and the garbage is turned into fertilizer.

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Post by veya_victaous Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:32 am

we have the same issue here, and china doesn't want to take our recycling anymore.
and that analysis is wrong

Chinese are much better at recycling, having multiple bins for different sorts of plastics and paper materials. it is the social norm there to wash bottles etc before you put them in the recycling. the Chinese are only going to accept 'bulk recycling' that meets the standards of their own society.

Part of the reason is rising labor costs in China, the cost to sort and clean our dirty recycling makes it uneconomical, when they are in a position to demand to receive it clean and sorted.
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Post by 'Wolfie Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:46 am

sunny

Yeh...

What the lobbyist for the US recycling industries says at the end of the O/P is basically a load of self-indulgent bulldust...

The USA doesn't have any kind of "world's best" recycling industry --  for the past half century they have been burning rubbish, or dumping it in rivers, seas and oceans, or sending it overseas;  and before that they simply buried it in 'landfill' dumpsites..

Not that Australia or any other western countries are any better --  we just happen to be a couple of decades behind the US in the excess waste disposal problems.

Various methods and schemes have been developing since the 1970s to deal with plastics, green waste recycling, better sewerage treatments, building waste reuse, better water quality, reducing air pollution --  but as long as our governments are 'owned' and controlled by the very polluting industries themselves, and the people (i.e. society..) remain too lethargic and easily swayed by corporate advertising,  we're still not likely to see enough of these available fechnologies implemented until the shit finally "hits the fan".

We only need look to associated issues such as climate change denial, ongoing deforrestation, the plastic already in the oceans, current contamination of food chains, an overdependence on fossil fuels, Donald Trump as president, to see what modern "civilisation" is up against in dealing with ever-increasing environmental problems..

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Post by nicko Sun Aug 26, 2018 5:58 am

I'd like to see us recycle dead humans !!!!
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Post by veya_victaous Sun Aug 26, 2018 6:18 am

nicko wrote:I'd like to see us recycle dead humans !!!!

That's a little off topic Laughing
But Dead humans are essentially a food product
Even if people were too squirmish to convert to cannibalism ....it would be an efficient way farm crocodiles
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we just have to encourage eating crocodiles
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