Why The Left Are Clueless - Restaurant owner who asked Sarah Sanders to leave says she was taking moral stand against Donald Trump

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Sarah Sanders, the White House press secretary, was refused service at a restaurant on Friday, sparking angry accusations that Donald Trump's aides are the target of liberal "bigotry".

Mrs Sanders said she had been asked to leave by the owner of the Red Hen, about three hours drive outside Washington.

The story was confirmed by the restaurant's owner who said she felt she had to take a stand against for "honesty" and "compassion".

Mrs Sanders wrote on Twitter: "I was told by the owner of Red Hen in Lexington, Virginia to leave because I work for the president and I politely left.

"Her (the owner's) actions say far more about her than about me. I always do my best to treat people, including those I disagree with, respectfully and will continue to do so."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/06/23/sarah-sanders-asked-leave-restaurant-works-donald-trump/

Talk about such stupidity, and if the left fail to condemn. They then leave open the door to then anyone being discriminated against their beliefs.

This is why some of the left have no moral standing and ethics, as they are just as prejudiced towards people

Didge wrote:No matter how badly Quill tries to worm out of his view, its there for all to see..

Good, you've composed yourself.

Yes, discriminating is what discriminating people do. You identify and distinguish characteristics in others that are uncool, uncivil, even on up to unlawful or unconstitutional. As I said, at some point the discriminating becomes incarceration.

But what does this have to do with 'demonstrations' and 'beliefs'? Do you truly not understand the English language, or are you trying to do easy language 'sleight-of-hand'?

Original Quill wrote:

Didge wrote:No matter how badly Quill tries to worm out of his view, its there for all to see..

Good, you've composed yourself.

Yes, discriminating is what discriminating people do.  You identify and distinguish characteristics in others that are uncool, uncivil, even on up to unlawful or unconstitutional.  As I said, at some point the discriminating becomes incarceration.

But what does this have to do with 'demonstrations' and 'beliefs'?  Do you truly not understand the English language, or are you trying to do easy language 'sleight-of-hand'?

That is what myself and Gelico have been doing for you

People believe in the Quran as the word of Allah, their God

This deity, through the Quran endorses slavery and sexual slaves

This is emphaticially evil and believed

End of, which means you would advocate discriminating here

Yes at some point we have caught ISIS members who have enslaved countless women and girls raping them

Pure evil and why they are being placed on trial, either to be executed or incarcerated in placesd like Iraq.

This incident here you go on about, was based on thinking its evil to seperate children from their parents, which it is. Unless they are suspected of committing or convicted of a crime. Your nation does this on countless criminal acts.

It was certainly evil under Obama, to hold children in adult detention centres with suspected illgeal immigrants arrested. When the children have commited no crime. So you must back the discrimination and incarceration of Obama and all Democrats as well. Its pure evil to lock up children in adult detention centres

So to me Trump and Obama are evil, which means now that all Americans need to discriminate against themselves, if they Democrat and Republican supporters.

Like I said, you either need to change the law, and have an open policy and see the US in anrachy, within months, or you place a better system for the children of illegal immigrant parents. Where again you look to their relatives, to place them in their custody, until the legal process has been resolved with their parents.

I can run rings around you all day  

Didge wrote:Now after really ridiculing the idiot, lets have some more fun

Did you just say 'fun' on a thread about family separation and lost children? You are one sick muther-fucker, didge.

What kind of fun do you have with captured and enslaved little children, didge? We're waiting to hear, you sick puppy.

I realized you've been embarrassed by my exposing your games, but if you're going to divert into 'fun' over the plight of little children, you're due for a stay in the dank, dark cellar.

Original Quill wrote:

Didge wrote:Now after really ridiculing the idiot, lets have some more fun

Did you just say 'fun' on a thread about family separation and lost children?  You are one sick muther-fucker, didge.

What kind of fun do you have with captured and enslaved little children, didge?  We're waiting to hear, you sick puppy.

I realized you've been embarrassed by my exposing your games, but if you're going to divert into 'fun' over the plight of little children, you're due for a stay in the dank, dark cellar.

Ahhhhh, I knew the old victim mentality would come out

My fun is at your expense, not the children here.

Mainly as you simple are that stupid and prejudiced towards people. Its hilarious, how I can have you dangling like a puppet on a string, with ease..

I mean come on potty mouth, do you think your poor accusations that are built on desperation, are going to get you out of a hole here?

Seriously?

More diversion? This thread has been quite a revelation for members. First, you're a liar. Second, you are easy language manipulator, twisting words and recasting arguments. And now, you're having "fun" on a thread involving children...doing what, god only knows.

You're desperate, and so you turn this whole thread into a game board. False arguments. Dirty innuendos. You're openly grooming gelico, so that you can start a cyber gang war. You're a waste of time, asshole. You are such a fookin' phony...

Original Quill wrote:More diversion?  This thread has been quite a revelation for members.  First, you're a liar.  Second, you are easy language manipulator, twisting words and recasting arguments.  And now, you're having "fun" on a thread involving children...doing what, god only knows.

You're desperate, and so you turn this whole thread into a game board.  False arguments.  Dirty innuendos.  You're openly grooming gelico, so that you can start a cyber gang war.  You're a waste of time, asshole.  You are such a fookin' phony...

I have the best and immense fun at your expense and its worked so well, you are completely triggered



You change the tact of the thread to argue and back discrimination, based on a belief, deemed evil and also where its been put into practice. You then threw your dummy out, as I showed how dumb a view point you made, which would allow rife discrimination and prejudice.

Thanks for the above hysterics and Gelico has her own mind and has taken me to task on issues, we disagree on. She has no problem doing that. So feel free to be emotive and angry towards me, I think its hilarious, your woeful accusations but show Gelico, some diginity. As she is her own woman, not controlled by anyone.

I think that is 2-0 to me

Well, as he has gone quite, I shall leave and see what others think should be done on this issue, around how to accomadate and look after children. Where the parents are suspected criminals?



Night all and have a good evening.

Original Quill wrote:More diversion?  This thread has been quite a revelation for members.  First, you're a liar.  Second, you are easy language manipulator, twisting words and recasting arguments.  And now, you're having "fun" on a thread involving children...doing what, god only knows.

You're desperate, and so you turn this whole thread into a game board.  False arguments.  Dirty innuendos.  You're openly grooming gelico, so that you can start a cyber gang war.  You're a waste of time, asshole.  You are such a fookin' phony...

Bwah hahahaha yep, didge is my master and always tells me what to say and how to think

FFS! give it up with the hysterical kneejerking and ridiculous statements

didge has got you running round in circles and you are sounding like an unhinged loon

Quill accusing people of...


'...you are easy language manipulator, twisting words and recasting arguments...'



OMG!!!







Really...!!!???

Tommy Monk wrote:Quill accusing people of...

'...you are easy language manipulator, twisting words and recasting arguments...'

OMG!!!



Really...!!!???

While not meaning to to compliment you tommy, didge's dissimulation is not something that you can pull off. Most of the time you don't know what you are doing.  

Original Quill wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:Quill accusing people of...

'...you are easy language manipulator, twisting words and recasting arguments...'

OMG!!!



Really...!!!???

While not meaning to to compliment you tommy, didge's dissimulation is not something that you can pull off.  Most of the time you don't know what you are doing.  

More like, half the forum has continually laughed at your double standards and hypocrisy

Didge wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

While not meaning to to compliment you tommy, didge's dissimulation is not something that you can pull off.  Most of the time you don't know what you are doing.  

More like, half the forum has continually laughed at your double standards and hypocrisy

So your gang-grooming techniques have been successful, eh?  Congratulations.

Still, truth is not a popularity contest.  I'm the one who walks away vindicated and justified.  You? Just an busy, busy ass-kisser.  

Spoiler:

Original Quill wrote:

Didge wrote:

More like, half the forum has continually laughed at your double standards and hypocrisy

So your gang-grooming techniques have been successful, eh?  Congratulations.

Still, truth is not a popularity contest.  I'm the one who walks away vindicated and justified.  You? Just an busy, busy ass-kisser.  

Spoiler:

''Incidentally, during last couple of days this discussion has been going on, my rating has jumped up 10-12 points''.

Gosh!  You must be so thrilled

gelico wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

So your gang-grooming techniques have been successful, eh?  Congratulations.

Still, truth is not a popularity contest.  I'm the one who walks away vindicated and justified.  You? Just an busy, busy ass-kisser.  

Spoiler:

''Incidentally, during last couple of days this discussion has been going on, my rating has jumped up 10-12 points''.

Gosh!  You must be so thrilled

I didn't even raise the question.  That was my refutation.  It was didge who broached the issue above, by suggesting that "half the forum" is judging this discussion.  Why don't you ask him how "thrilled"...or what emotion that gives him.  Why is it important, or even relevant for him?

Again, this is in keeping with didge's argument style.  Truth or legitimacy doesn't matter...but popularity is essential.  It's a form of psychological shunning...first he grooms easy marks like you, and then he brings his gang to bear in the game.  Bringing down the popularity issue is didge's type of bullying: look, my gang is bigger, and you better watch out!!  Incidentally, isn't that your purpose too?

Take a look at my review of didge's tactics in the NHS thread, in the British News section (comparison of tactics to those of Trump).  I think it's insightful.

Original Quill wrote:

Didge wrote:

More like, half the forum has continually laughed at your double standards and hypocrisy

So your gang-grooming techniques have been successful, eh?  Congratulations.

Still, truth is not a popularity contest.  I'm the one who walks away vindicated and justified.  You? Just an busy, busy ass-kisser.  

Spoiler:

Are you still bitching and whinging?

Just more evidence, that I completely took you to the cleaners here

We know Veya and wolf give you greens. Hardly something to brag home about, is it?

Original Quill wrote:

gelico wrote:




''Incidentally, during last couple of days this discussion has been going on, my rating has jumped up 10-12 points''.

Gosh!  You must be so thrilled

Again, this is in keeping with didge's argument style.  Truth or legitimacy doesn't matter...but popularity is essential.  It's a form of psychological shunning...first he grooms easy marks like you, and then he brings his gang to bear in the game.  Bringing down the popularity issue is didge's type of bullying: look, my gang is bigger, and you better watch out!!  Incidentally, isn't that your purpose too?

Didge and I have had fights on forums since I joined in 2010. I would have thought it was a bit late in the day to be trying to ''groom'' me or anyone else for that matter. Secondly, one thing I can say in all honesty about didge is that he's never given a shit about being popular. I honestly don't think anyone on here has, we just all come along and have our own say. The fact that you try to say he is forming some kind of gang just shows how immature and pathetic your arguments really are.

still not to worry, eh. No harm done

Quill... I have used leftys own stupid logic against them countless times on here... I do it all the time!!!


And I've done it loads to didge in the past too... which is where he learnt it from... and why he's wisened up a bit with his thinking over last few years!!!

Tommy Monk wrote:Quill... I have used leftys own stupid logic against them countless times on here... I do it all the time!!!


And I've done it loads to didge in the past too... which is where he learnt it from... and why he's wisened up a bit with his thinking over last few years!!!

Nah, I learnt from someone who is intelligent

Lord Foul

Sorry to burst your egotistic bubble

gelico wrote:

Original Quill wrote:



Again, this is in keeping with didge's argument style.  Truth or legitimacy doesn't matter...but popularity is essential.  It's a form of psychological shunning...first he grooms easy marks like you, and then he brings his gang to bear in the game.  Bringing down the popularity issue is didge's type of bullying: look, my gang is bigger, and you better watch out!!  Incidentally, isn't that your purpose too?

Didge and I have had fights on forums since I joined in 2010.  I would have thought it was a bit late in the day to be trying to ''groom'' me or anyone else for that matter.  Secondly, one thing I can say in all honesty about didge is that he's never given a shit about being popular.  I honestly don't think anyone on here has, we just all come along and have our own say.  The fact that you try to say he is forming some kind of gang just shows how immature and pathetic your arguments really are.  

still not to worry, eh.  No harm done

The target is usually so flattered, he or she just coyly smiles, bites the lower lip and looks down.  And it doesn't matter how long you've known each other...it works every time with vulnerable marks.

Shall I point it out next time?  Let's move on...and I'll bring the subject back into focus when I see it.

Original Quill wrote:

gelico wrote:


Didge and I have had fights on forums since I joined in 2010.  I would have thought it was a bit late in the day to be trying to ''groom'' me or anyone else for that matter.  Secondly, one thing I can say in all honesty about didge is that he's never given a shit about being popular.  I honestly don't think anyone on here has, we just all come along and have our own say.  The fact that you try to say he is forming some kind of gang just shows how immature and pathetic your arguments really are.  

still not to worry, eh.  No harm done

The target is usually so flattered, he or she just coyly smiles, bites the lower lip and looks down.  And it doesn't matter how long you've known each other...it works every time with vulnerable marks.

Shall I point it out next time?  Let's move on...and I'll bring the subject back into focus when I see it.

How about you admit you were wrong here to argue for discrimination, based on beliefs?

Then we will move on.

Original Quill wrote:

gelico wrote:


Didge and I have had fights on forums since I joined in 2010.  I would have thought it was a bit late in the day to be trying to ''groom'' me or anyone else for that matter.  Secondly, one thing I can say in all honesty about didge is that he's never given a shit about being popular.  I honestly don't think anyone on here has, we just all come along and have our own say.  The fact that you try to say he is forming some kind of gang just shows how immature and pathetic your arguments really are.  

still not to worry, eh.  No harm done

The target is usually so flattered, he or she just coyly smiles, bites the lower lip and looks down. .

ewww, quite the cringey little creep aren't you. you been reading your 50 shades of shite novels quill? or do you just live in your own weird little fantasy world?

gelico wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

The target is usually so flattered, he or she just coyly smiles, bites the lower lip and looks down. .

ewww, quite the cringey little creep aren't you.  you been reading your 50 shades of shite novels quill?  or do you just live in your own weird little fantasy world?

Haven't read it. You think my writing is creative? Lots of grooming going on in your clique.

Original Quill wrote:

gelico wrote:


ewww, quite the cringey little creep aren't you.  you been reading your 50 shades of shite novels quill?  or do you just live in your own weird little fantasy world?

Haven't read it.  You think my writing is creative?  Lots of grooming going on in your clique.  

The fact that after you got completely ridiculed with the most stupid claim to discriminate based on beliefs. To then turn this immaturely, as if to make out, that then others are groooming, based off a sexual nature. Based again on your reply to Gelico
Proves you have no moral standing. You cant admit to your poor reasoning here and instead invent crap, to poorly attempt to get out of looking a twat

Seriously grow up. Your views to slander everyone as racist, a Nazi etc, is utterly boring. As you never back it up with any evidence. You just poorly misdirect to attack the other poster, when you get your arse kicked

It proves you have zero ability to debate

Didge wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Haven't read it.  You think my writing is creative?  Lots of grooming going on in your clique.  

The fact that after you got completely ridiculed with the most stupid claim to discriminate based on beliefs. To then turn this immaturely, as if to make out, that then others are groooming, based off a sexual nature. Based again on your reply to Gelico
Proves you have no moral standing. You cant admit to your poor reasoning here and instead invent crap, to poorly attempt to get out of looking a twat

Seriously grow up. Your views to slander everyone as racist, a Nazi etc, is utterly boring. As you never back it up with any evidence. You just poorly misdirect to attack the other poster, when you get your arse kicked

It proves you have zero ability to debate

I don't follow your point (if any). In order to have a meaningful point, mere adverbs and adjectives won't do. You have to have an antecedent and a consequent, logically connected. You have neither.

Perhaps you might have more success if you restate it. Good luck

Original Quill wrote:

Didge wrote:

The fact that after you got completely ridiculed with the most stupid claim to discriminate based on beliefs. To then turn this immaturely, as if to make out, that then others are groooming, based off a sexual nature. Based again on your reply to Gelico
Proves you have no moral standing. You cant admit to your poor reasoning here and instead invent crap, to poorly attempt to get out of looking a twat

Seriously grow up. Your views to slander everyone as racist, a Nazi etc, is utterly boring. As you never back it up with any evidence. You just poorly misdirect to attack the other poster, when you get your arse kicked

It proves you have zero ability to debate

I don't follow your point (if any).  In order to have a meaningful point, mere adverbs and adjectives won't do.  You have to have an antecedent and a consequent, logically connected.  You have neither.

Perhaps you might have more success if you restate it.  Good luck

Its very simple

You argued to not only be able to discriminate but it should be done, to people who hold beliefs, that is subjectivelly evil

I agrued against being able to discrimate against anyone based on beliefs

I was arguing from the stand point of a free and Liberal society

You were arguing from the stand point of a Totalitarian Dictatorship society

Didge wrote:Its very simple

You argued to not only be able to discriminate but it should be done, to people who hold beliefs, that is subjectivelly evil

I don't remember that point ever being made...by either of us. Perhaps in your haste, you got it wrong. Or perhaps...you are twisting an argument from what it was, to what you want it to be. Called, dragging a red herring.

You'll just have to be more explicit.

Original Quill wrote:

Didge wrote:Its very simple

You argued to not only be able to discriminate but it should be done, to people who hold beliefs, that is subjectivelly evil

I don't remember that point ever being made...by either of us.  Perhaps in your haste, you got it wrong.  Or perhaps...you are twisting an argument from what it was, to what you want it to be.  Called, dragging a red herring.

You'll just have to be more explicit.

You dont rememeber?

Let me remind you then

Original Quill wrote:
Alas, discrimination on beliefs is what you do with evil people.  And if they carry out those beliefs--say, for example, kidnapping children--we put them in prison.

Its as a clear as day

I back a free Liberal socioety.

You back a society, that has been seen many times in history, where people have beed murdered and imprisoned for their beliefs

You fall into that later Category

I mean, in countries, its punishable by death for Blasphemy against Islam. As its seen as a evil belief

What can I say, but you replicate the worst and most Totalitarian regemes on this planet

So, how does one define "discrimination"? My legal dictionary says it's "recognition and understanding of the difference between one thing and another."

I think that's a perfectly fair statement. You identify someone by his motives. And, "if they carry out those beliefs--say, for example, kidnapping children--we put them in prison."

Awww...did you not understand, again didge?

Original Quill wrote:So, how does one define "discrimination"?  My legal dictionary says it's  "recognition and understanding of the difference between one thing and another."

I think that's a perfectly fair statement.  You identify someone by his motives.  And, "if they carry out those beliefs--say, for example, kidnapping children--we put them in prison."

Awww...did you not understand, again didge?

Well your view here, was to back the owner of the establishment to not serve this person, because of their beliefs

Based on the premise of what you decide is evil

So based on recognition, why are you not prejudiced towards Islamic beliefs, that endorse slavery?

So when Obama placed children of illegal immigrants in Adult detention centres, would you also adovocate against Obama for this evil?

Its as evil as seperating children is it not?

Did you not understand your double standards?

Awwww, you going to squirm again over your Totalitarian views?

Like I say, I back a Free society, you back one, where you lock up people you do not like, based on their beliefs

The reality is though, I then made further points on this and you run away from this

I mean what does the US do, when someone breaks the law, and there is nobody else to care for the children?

Do, as Obama did, and place them in the detention centre with their suspected criminal parents. Which happens in South American countries? Do what Trump did and as evil, segregate them.

Or do what I suggest, place them in the care of other family memebers?

Wow...!!!


Is didge really saying this to another poster...


"...Seriously grow up. Your views to slander everyone as racist, a Nazi etc, is utterly boring. As you never back it up with any evidence. You just poorly misdirect to attack the other poster, when you get your arse kicked..."


???


When that is exactly what didge does to me all the time...!!!???

Tommy Monk wrote:

Wow...!!!


Is didge really saying this to another poster...


"...Seriously grow up. Your views to slander everyone as racist, a Nazi etc, is utterly boring. As you never back it up with any evidence. You just poorly misdirect to attack the other poster, when you get your arse kicked..."


???


When that is exactly what didge does to me all the time...!!!???

Well in this situation of the other thread, you are racist Tommy

I mean lets look at your answers here

I provided evidence on the situiation, which Gelico saw as basically ethnic cleansing

You though, tried to claim, that they all live in the desert and did so with caplocks

I mean you attempted to look intelligent and emphatically looked racist

So again I ask, which you did an an Andy and avoided on the other thread

Would you give food and water to those in need?

Simple question and no lol is going to get you out of your blatant racism here

You from the start took the view of Algeria, A Muslim majority governement over Black Africans

Wow