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Post by eddie Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:44 pm

I am going to add the YouTube clip at the bottom which this article refers to (in case any of you don’t kniw what happened).

The problem with Robert De Niro wasn’t that he brought politics to the Tony Awards. It was that he brought the wrong kind.

“F–k Trump,” he announced when he took the stage to introduce Bruce Springsteen. “It’s no longer down with Trump, but f–k Trump.” The stars sitting in front of him roared in approval. Those at home heard bleeps instead, but they didn’t miss the message — and they weren’t as receptive to the rhetoric.

De Niro hadn’t angered only conservatives. Plenty of card-carrying liberals and culture critics were mad, too. The sentiment may have earned their sympathy, but the delivery, they complained, was a total flop. The issue for these Tony fans wasn’t that De Niro was distracting from the art the event exists to celebrate, or even that he had used his introduction to upstage the man it was supposed to set up. It was that De Niro had struck a discordant note during a night when, otherwise, the political tenor had been pointed but restrained.

Meryl Streep’s stirring address at the Golden Globes last year felt like a third-act call to arms — “Disrespect invites disrespect.Violence incites violence” — and watchers were right there with her. “F–k Trump,” on the other hand, is more “Beavis and Butt-Head” than Henry V at Agincourt.

We don’t want to feel as if we’re butt-heads, too. But the truth is, saying everyone should bake everyone else a cake won’t change the minds of any actual bakers, and all the welcoming, kind and generous people in the nation can’t change an administration’s cruel and unwelcoming policies.

Throwing around curse words with no substance behind them is not an admirable form of resistance, and De Niro isn’t going to persuade Trump voters to join his side by doing it. Yet we’re fooling ourselves if we think the meaningful statements of more decorous celebrities holding aloft their trophies are going to accomplish anything, either. Their speechifying might make us sleep better after the credits roll, but in the end, whether an awards ceremony is full of subtle criticisms or crude slurs, it’s all just a show.


More on link https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/act-four/wp/2018/06/12/award-show-audiences-love-politics-just-not-robert-de-niros-kind/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.d5f1fe4a3d6e

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Post by eddie Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:48 pm

Let me just say, that if you have a huge audience and you have something to say that stirs passion in you then what better way to do it than like that?

That’s exactly, what I’d do.
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Post by Ben Reilly Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:39 pm

Yes. I'm so tired of people ignoring the reality that prompts many many people to say Fuck Trump and instead fixating on the F word.
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Post by Original Quill Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:49 pm

The word 'fuck' is the least of the problems.  Trump is doing to America what Caesar did to Rome...reconstructing it into a vassal dictatorship, in alliance with the greatest capo of them all, Putin.

Only, Imperial Rome doesn't quite get us there.  Because, the Russo-white nationalist Americans are a lower criminal enterprise.  Rome, even, was not evil.

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Post by eddie Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:57 pm

Okay I want to add more to this story.

Everyone knows I’m a believer of finding out the very very truth and will look into everything I can, to find it.

So on social media it now appears there are stories aboit De Nero being a paedophile and that his “lashing out at Trump” is a direct result of Trump about to “out him”.

(That was news to me, never heard De Nero mentioned in regards to paedophilia before and I have researched this shit)
So I looked into it anyway, and found a whole load of waffle about a case in the 90’s that had little to do with De Nero (please do google) and that all this ‘new’ social media stuff is only really about two days old - so after the “Fuck you” to Trump.


Thought that was relevant to this story and thought I’d add it here, in case any future stories come out.
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Post by Original Quill Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:00 pm

Any link?

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Post by eddie Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:06 pm

Original Quill wrote:Any link?

For the paedo claims? Theyre mostly social media snapshots, if you will.

This might explain a bit: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/was-robert-deniro-child-trafficking-ring/

For the record, I don’t hold snopes as a truth-slayer, as such, but I tended to agree with them on this due to my own research.
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