Signs of Estab’t panic as even right-wing sites start to agree with Corbyn on Novichok

As the scorn and mock outrage poured on Jeremy Corbyn this week for insisting on a lawful, evidence-based approach to Britain’s response to the Salisbury nerve-agent attack starts to ebb, there are signs of encroaching panic among the Establishment.

After all, it’s clear from the unseemly mob behaviour that those who want to return to the bad old days of near indistinguishable main political parties thought they saw an opportunity in the Salisbury horror to smear Corbyn’s statesmanlike, measured demeanour – if only they bayed loudly enough.

And if they can’t make that stick, what have they got left?

Jeremy Corbyn has a point… when he wrote in yesterday’s Guardian and reiterated later that the Government was ‘rushing way ahead of the evidence’ in condemning Russia for the attack on Sergei Skripal
Melanie McDonough, Coffee House

The cracks started to appear when the Guardian and Independent – no great friends of Corbyn – started to treat his approach as credible and even preferable. But they widened to chasms when right-wing commentators such as Peter Hitchens and The Spectator’s Coffee House started to salute the wisdom of his stance:



Corbyn yet again on the right side of a major issue, according to the more sensible right–wing journalists and commentators – including Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson’s own sister, journalist Rachel Johnson: (video on link)

Even the BBC News channel, after at first parroting May’s ‘no credible alternative‘ line as common-sense fact, has started to reframe its narrative to reflect that Corbyn was right – and has forced yet another change in the political landscape: (video on link)

The signs of panic among the rest have been seen in an emerging eagerness among the unsavoury ‘outriders’ of the Establishment to start trying to create a narrative of ‘conspiracy theorist’ behaviour among the ‘new left media’ (NLM) – even if that just requires inventing claims out of thin air.

Some of the smears and sources will not be repeated here, as we have no wish to give oxygen to some of the vile, fabricated dross that have characterised some of these ‘fake news’ attempts.

But one that does bear mentioning is an email received by the SKWAWKBOX this evening from Murdoch rag The S*n, in the form of a press enquiry. It said:

We’re publishing a story on the alternative media sharing conspiracy theories about the poisoning of Sergei Skripal. Skwawkbox is included because of articles such as https://skwawkbox.org/2018/03/14/video-corbyn-the-anti-establishment-statesman-as-may-moderates-rush-to-judgment-over-salisbury/ in which you suggest the UK could be the source of the nerve agent involved. Do you have any comment?

The article linked in the enquiry, of course, makes no such suggestion. It merely mentions that Porton Down and facilities across the EU are said to have samples of Novichoks and that these samples may contain ‘signature markers’ to allow the samples to be told apart from one another.

We responded to the enquiry accordingly:

See below for use in full:

“The Skwawkbox article makes no such suggestion. The Sun appears to be forsaking basic reading comprehension for the sake of whatever agenda it is pursuing.”

It’s not known which other ‘alternative media’ the S*n was referring to and therefore cannot comment on what they did or didn’t say. But the S*n and at least two others are either planning or have already run similar articles.

https://skwawkbox.org/2018/03/17/signs-of-estabt-panic-as-even-right-wing-sites-start-to-agree-with-corbyn-on-novichok/

She keeps trying Didge, you'v got to give her that !

nicko wrote:She keeps trying Didge,   you'v got to give her that !

Indeed mate, but as seen can easily counter what she posts.

The worst was the conspiracist Criag Murray she posted. Who alongside Julian Assange are puppets of Putin.

nicko wrote:She keeps trying Didge,   you'v got to give her that !

That's because I'm truthtelling.  Unfortunately you don't have the brains to understand and spend all your time being an arse licker.

sassy wrote:

nicko wrote:She keeps trying Didge,   you'v got to give her that !

That's because I'm truthtelling.  Unfortunately you don't have the brains to understand are spend all your time being an arse kicker.

By posting articles from skwakbox and a conspiracist puppt of Putin in Craig Murray?

https://medium.com/@pitt_bob/skwawkbox-an-embarrassment-to-the-left-47ed00a50898

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/corbynista-site-skwawkbox-published-fake-news-about-grenfell-death-toll-ipso-rules-jb3jbnszq

The complainant’s blog had reported claims made by third parties that a D-notice had been issued in relation to the Grenfell fire disaster. As these claims had proven to be untrue, it was not significantly misleading for the publication to have said that the complainant had “spread” “fake news”… the Committee also noted that the complainant had given significant weight to this claim in his blog. Indeed, the blog had strongly suggested that it was true: it had said “every instinct is screaming that [the claims are true]”. Given that the complainant had endorsed the credibility of the claims and had effectively adopted them, it was not significantly misleading for the publication to have said that the complainant had “reported” that the government had issued a D-notice.

https://order-order.com/2018/01/02/ipso-throws-another-skwawkbox-complaint/

https://order-order.com/2017/04/05/corbynista-site-skwawkbox-publishes-fake-news/

I doubt very much that the Russians were behind this... it looks very much more like others are behind it to make Russia get the blame...!



'False flag'

Maybe this blaming Russia is setting up support for military action in Syria...?


With fake chemical attacks being staged by ISIS rebels as the next step...


https://www.rt.com/news/421589-us-preparing-syria-provocations-airstrikes/


http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/03/17/555774/US-training-Syria-militants-for-false-flag-chemical-attacks-Russian-cmdr

Tommy Monk wrote:

Maybe this blaming Russia is setting up support for military action in Syria...?


With fake chemical attacks being staged by ISIS rebels as the next step...


https://www.rt.com/news/421589-us-preparing-syria-provocations-airstrikes/


http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/03/17/555774/US-training-Syria-militants-for-false-flag-chemical-attacks-Russian-cmdr

Fucking hell, I guess Tommy is a Quisling and an apologist for Iranian Islamism

He uses sources that are the mouth piece of Iran (presstv) and Russia (RT)

Which shows you are an imbcille

Independent investigators have shown Assad has used chemical weapons and you still deny this

Waffle off dodge you bell end!


Time will tell...!

Tommy Monk wrote:Waffle off dodge you bell end!


Time will tell...!

How about you fuck off traitor and go and live in Iran where you would be welcomed with open arms.

You know its a Totalitarian islamist leadership that oppresses homosexuals, stones women to death, backs a mass murderer in Assad and like him censurs the press, and both are some of the worst violators of human rights, commited against their own people.

Is it not wierd how you back regimes that are anti-homosexual eh Tommy

That are also very misogynistic and one of them, very antisemitic

You should be fucking ashamed of yourself for promoting that propaganda fake news

Waffle off dodge... you are a bell end!

Tommy Monk wrote:

Waffle off dodge... you are a bell end!

Not going anywhere you quisling and islamist supporter

Tommy Monk wrote:

Maybe this blaming Russia is setting up support for military action in Syria...?


With fake chemical attacks being staged by ISIS rebels as the next step...


https://www.rt.com/news/421589-us-preparing-syria-provocations-airstrikes/


http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/03/17/555774/US-training-Syria-militants-for-false-flag-chemical-attacks-Russian-cmdr

I said on the first thrad about this event that it was not Russia behind it, and it would be staged for the purpose of starting military action against Syrian govt, and as a reason to steal Russians money by freezing money/assets of Russians here in UK and maybe EU too...

Tommy, the mouth piece of Iran and Russia, ignoring the damning evidence Assad has used chemical weapons

Not seen any military action against Syria from this

There is no 'damning evidence Assad has used chemical weapons'...!


And the articles I posted, talk about ISIS/rebels preparing to stage fake chemical weapons attacks, and for them to be filmed and then played on the main stream news, and then used by US/UK and others to try to justify the start of military action against Syrian govt forces...!

https://www.vox.com/world/2017/6/30/15900496/assad-sarin-opcw-chemical-weapons-attack-syria

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/26/europe/france-syria-chemical-weapons/index.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/syria-chemical-attack-assad-incontrovertible-evidence-sarin-gas-used-opcw-russia-a7692896.html

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2016/02/08/UN-report-Syrias-Assad-guilty-of-inhuman-crimes-gruesome-torture-deaths/8491454979690/

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2017/country-chapters/syria

Like I said, Tommy is the Puppet for the human rights abusive Goverments of Russia, Syria and now Iran

Not evidence... just media speculation...

Well if you think that is not evidence, that is up to you

Others quite rightly see it as damning evidence, none of which you can refute

The fact is chemical weapons have been used in large quantities

No terrorist group has such quantities of chemical weapons

It can only come from the payloads of missles
Assad guilty

Case closed

More waffle from the ISIS supporter...

Tommy Monk wrote:More waffle from the ISIS supporter...

lol, since when have i ever supported ISIS Tommy?

Espicially when i argue how this is most politicised and vilest form of islam

You did use two media sources that are mouth pieces for the Government of Iran and Russia

You really are embarressing yourself tonight. As based on the fact western nations and governements agree with me, including the UN. You must think they are ISIS supporters.

Who is fighting against ISIS...?


And who seems to be supporting ISIS... and also working against the Syrian govt and Russian support, who are fighting against ISIS...?


Who's side are you on, dodge...!?


ISIS...?


Or the Syrian govt and supporting Russians who are fighting against ISIS...!?


Well...?

Tommy Monk wrote:Who is fighting against ISIS...?
And who seems to be supporting ISIS... and also working against the Syrian govt and Russian support, who are fighting against ISIS...?
Who's side are you on, dodge...!?
ISIS...?
Or the Syrian govt and supporting Russians who are fighting against ISIS...!?
Well...?

The West, Russia, Syria, Iran
I am also on the side fighting against Assad, Islamists terrorists. Those in the West and Kurds, Druze, Yazidi's etc
I am on the side of the Western nations tommy

You side with a mass murderer in Assad. An Iranian Governement that abuses its own people through politicized islamic beliefs. The Russians the same.

Its like claiming If during WW2, I do not support the Soviet Union, then I must be supporting the Nazi's

That is how dumb your argument is, when you can clearly be against both the Satlinists and Nazi's

Didge has let his obsessive hatred of Corbyn cloud his already dubious and warped judgement.
He wants war at all costs with Russia, just so that he can say he was right about Corbyn.

Angry Andy wrote:Didge has let his obsessive hatred of Corbyn cloud his already dubious and warped judgement.
He wants war at all costs with Russia, just so that he can say he was right about Corbyn.

Can you show me anywhere, that I state that I hate Corbyn?

Never have

Can you show any posts I have made that i call for war with Russia?

Never have

You see Andy, you have to be as hateful as the likes of allakaka. As seen you both invent lies onto posters, simple because you cannot debate

What I am rightly showing is that Corbyn is clearly a threat to our national security. Many Labour MP's think the same

That is not hating someone. That is being rightly concerned if this person was in power

Now you need to grow up, you are as hateful as the likes of Allakaka, and the above lies proves this

You are on the side of ISIS and those supporting ISIS...

I mean lets just prove here how your views are emphatically hateful towards me Andy and a complete double standard

Wolf, Ben, Quill, Lurker etc, see Trump as exponentially as a threat to the United States.

They constantly post threads on Trump, to warn people about him, which they have every right to do so. They would be right in their thinking. As he clearly seems to be more concerned about his image on social media, than he is, in running the country.

Now have you at any point called any of them obsessed, hateful, dubious and having warped judgement?

No, you have not made a single peep on this.

It proves you are the biggest hypocrite on this forum and only are selective onto people you charge with such claims. More so, because you clearly think the sun shines out of Corbyns arse.

To me, Corbyn is a useless idiot. That does not mean i hate him. I also think he is just a puppet for other more radical leftists. Yet you constantly jump in stirring up constant crap and more so, because you cannot even for one minute condemn him. Even when many Labour MP's and supporters have. As you think more about defending him, over that off the security of the country.

That makes you also a useless idiot

Tommy Monk wrote:
You are on the side of ISIS and those supporting ISIS...

By me opposing ISIS?

Does the UK Governemnt oppose ISIS?

Yes?

The US?

Yes?

Do they also both oppose Iran, which wants to wipe out Israel?

Yes

Do they both oppose Assad, a mass murder?

Yes

You really need to try harder Tommy

Its no bother, Russia will push things to far with Israel in the end and israel will render their systems inoperable

Russia is scared of israel and why it does nothing to stop Israel jets attacking syrian, Hezbollah, and iranian forces within Syria. It knows Israel has the capacity to render its jets, missles inoperable

So you support the Kurds, who have been fighting against ISIS, do you...?


Then why have you not said anything about this...?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-43447624

Tommy Monk wrote:So you support the Kurds, who have been fighting against ISIS, do you...?


Then why have you not said anything about this...?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-43447624

Of course I support the self determination of the Kurds

I condemn any murder of civillians by Kurdish extremists

So now you are a puppet of a leader that supports and promotes child soldiers in Erdogan and his lies.

Let me make this very clear to you Tommy

I do not support any terrorism carried out by Kurds against civillians

What you need to answer is whether you support the Erdogan Governement?

If you support the Iranian governement?

If you support the Assad governement?

If you support the Russian governement?

Now do I think all Turks are criminals based on the actions of Erdogan?

No

Now do I think all Syrians are criminals based on the actions of Assad?

No

Now do I think all Russians are criminals based on the actions of Putin?

No

So there is only a few questions left to ask you Tommy

Do you support Assad?

Do you support  Erdogan?

Both of which are very antisemitic?

Do you support Putin?

So I answer all Tommy's questions

How badly is he avoiding mine?

Tommy Monk wrote:Who is fighting against ISIS...?


And who seems to be supporting ISIS... and also working against the Syrian govt and Russian support, who are fighting against ISIS...?


Who's side are you on, dodge...!?


ISIS...?


Or the Syrian govt and supporting Russians who are fighting against ISIS...!?


Well...?

ask your self who wins in the region if the EU, Russians and Muslims blow each other up?

Who does Didge mindlessly support in every scenario?

Didge will be the first to tell you that Corbyn is an anti-Semite

veya_victaous wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:Who is fighting against ISIS...?


And who seems to be supporting ISIS... and also working against the Syrian govt and Russian support, who are fighting against ISIS...?


Who's side are you on, dodge...!?


ISIS...?


Or the Syrian govt and supporting Russians who are fighting against ISIS...!?


Well...?

ask your self who wins in the region if the EU, Russians and Muslims blow each other up?

Who does Didge mindlessly support in every scenario?

Didge will be the first to tell you that Corbyn is an anti-Semite

Didge supports people that stand for the well being and equality of people

I donot think Corbyn is antisemitic, but certainly pallies up to antisemities

That is a known fact when he called Hamas and Hezbollah his friends. Two antisemitic terrorist organisations

You see, you suffer from Ostrich parasitic syndrome

Didge wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:Who is fighting against ISIS...?


And who seems to be supporting ISIS... and also working against the Syrian govt and Russian support, who are fighting against ISIS...?


Who's side are you on, dodge...!?


ISIS...?


Or the Syrian govt and supporting Russians who are fighting against ISIS...!?


Well...?

ask your self who wins in the region if the EU, Russians and Muslims blow each other up?

Who does Didge mindlessly support in every scenario?

Didge will be the first to tell you that Corbyn is an anti-Semite

Didge supports people that stand for the well being and equality of people

I donot think Corbyn is antisemitic, but certainly pallies up to antisemities

That is a known fact when he called Hamas and Hezbollah his friends. Two antisemitic terrorist organisations

You see, you suffer from Ostrich parasitic syndrome

I'm just pointing out the obvious biased to Tommy, it's almost like it could be a conspiracy

Don't worry Didge, I don't think you're smart enough to be a Zionist

veya_victaous wrote:

Didge wrote:

Didge supports people that stand for the well being and equality of people

I donot think Corbyn is antisemitic, but certainly pallies up to antisemities

That is a known fact when he called Hamas and Hezbollah his friends. Two antisemitic terrorist organisations

You see, you suffer from Ostrich parasitic syndrome

I'm just pointing out the obvious biased to Tommy, it's almost like it could be a conspiracy

Don't worry Didge, I don't think you're smart enough to be a Zionist

I dont think you are smart enough period Veya

Like I say, he used the mouth peices of Iran and Russia as his evidence and was too dumb to realise this

Didge wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:So you support the Kurds, who have been fighting against ISIS, do you...?


Then why have you not said anything about this...?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-43447624

Of course I support the self determination of the Kurds

I condemn any murder of civillians by Kurdish extremists

So now you are a puppet of a leader that supports and promotes child soldiers in Erdogan and his lies.

Let me make this very clear to you Tommy

I do not support any terrorism carried out by Kurds against civillians

What you need to answer is whether you support the Erdogan Governement?

WTF are you waffling about now...!!!???


I asked you if you supported the Kurds who have been fighting against ISIS...!?


The other day you were trying to justify a totally illegal (war crime) air strike against Syrian govt forces by the US, by saying it was called in by Kurdish fighters who were being supported in fighting against ISIS and to rightly defend them (which was total bollocks from you, and absolutely no justification for this criminal air strike anyway!)...


The link I posted up is about a northern region of Syria around 'Afrin' (which is next to the southern border of Turkey)...


Now... this region of Kurds who have been valiantly fighting against ISIS throughout the conflict in Syria... have been under attack from Turkish led/backed militia (ISIS/rebels?) for the last couple of months... and the region has now been taken by these Turkish led/backed militia of Turkish forces and ISIS/rebels...


Why are you (and US military air strikes) not supporting the anti ISIS Kurds there in their own region...!?


Why are you not protesting about Turkeys hostile illegal invasion and occupation of this Kurdish region of the Syrian country...!?

Tommy Monk wrote:

Didge wrote:


Of course I support the self determination of the Kurds

I condemn any murder of civillians by Kurdish extremists

So now you are a puppet of a leader that supports and promotes child soldiers in Erdogan and his lies.

Let me make this very clear to you Tommy

I do not support any terrorism carried out by Kurds against civillians

What you need to answer is whether you support the Erdogan Governement?

WTF are you waffling about now...!!!???

Didge wrote:Answering your hysterical questions

I asked you if you supported the Kurds who have been fighting against ISIS...!?

Didge wrote:I think that is blatnatly obvious, since I am against ISIS and support their independence

The other day you were trying to justify a totally illegal (war crime) air strike against Syrian govt forces by the US, by saying it was called in by Kurdish fighters who were being supported in fighting against ISIS and to rightly defend them (which was total bollocks from you, and absolutely no justification for this criminal air strike anyway!)...

Didge wrote:Well the Turks and Syrians and enemies of the Kurds
Not a war crime, either. Again Tommy being the mouthpiece of Iran, Syria, Russia and now turkey

The link I posted up is about a northern region of Syria around 'Afrin' (which is next to the southern border of Turkey)...

Didge wrote:The links you posted are from the state owned media of Iran and Russia

Now... this region of Kurds who have been valiantly fighting against ISIS throughout the conflict in Syria... have been under attack from Turkish led/backed militia (ISIS/rebels?) for the last couple of months... and the region has now been taken by these Turkish led/backed militia of Turkish forces and ISIS/rebels...

Didge wrote:They have also been fighting Syrians under Assad

Why are you (and US military air strikes) not supporting the anti ISIS Kurds there in their own region...!?

Didge wrote:Well I donot have any warplanes to hand, as I would. You would have to ask the US

Why are you not protesting about Turkeys hostile illegal invasion and occupation of this Kurdish region of the Syrian country...!?

It is an illegal invasion and completely condemn it. You only asked me in your last post

What you should be asking is what is Russia and Assad doing about Turkey invading? As they are far better placed to actually do something.

That still does not excuse you using the propaganda machines of Iran and Russia

This link, you cretin...


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-43447624


Clearly posted above!!!


Your twisting and waffling is getting beyond the realms of stupidity now...!!!


You are either deliberately misrepresenting things to the extreme, for the purpose of furthering some prerequisite agenda... or you have lost touch with reality, and lost touch with sanity...!!!


Or... maybe... all of these things are true...!!!

What has that link got to do with your other two articles that were mouth peices for Iran and Russia?

Talk aboiut poorly trying to twist your way out of it.

Come one Tommy, I put all 3 together and lets have a good laugh at your expense.


The BBC link:

Syria war: Turkish-led forces oust Kurdish fighters from heart of Afrin.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-43447624

Tommy's mouth peice for Russia:

US training Syria militants for false flag chemical attack as basis for airstrikes – Russian MoD

https://www.rt.com/news/421589-us-preparing-syria-provocations-airstrikes/

The state held Iranian media, Press TV

US training Syria militants for false flag chemical attacks: Russian cmdr.

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/03/17/555774/US-training-Syria-militants-for-false-flag-chemical-attacks-Russian-cmdr


How disingenuous can Tommy get?

Didge wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:So you support the Kurds, who have been fighting against ISIS, do you...?


Then why have you not said anything about this...?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-43447624

Of course I support the self determination of the Kurds

I condemn any murder of civillians by Kurdish extremists

So now you are a puppet of a leader that supports and promotes child soldiers in Erdogan and his lies.

Let me make this very clear to you Tommy

I do not support any terrorism carried out by Kurds against civillians

What you need to answer is whether you support the Erdogan Governement?

If you support the Iranian governement?

If you support the Assad governement?

If you support the Russian governement?

Now do I think all Turks are criminals based on the actions of Erdogan?

No

Now do I think all Syrians are criminals based on the actions of Assad?

No

Now do I think all Russians are criminals based on the actions of Putin?

No

So there is only a few questions left to ask you Tommy

Do you support Assad?

Do you support  Erdogan?

Both of which are very antisemitic?

Do you support Putin?

So after just exposing Tommy, lets get back to the questions he avoided like the plauge

I answered his, lets see if he will answer mine

Didge wrote:What has that link got to do with your other two articles that were mouth peices for Iran and Russia?

Talk aboiut poorly trying to twist your way out of it.

Come one Tommy, I put all 3 together and lets have a good laugh at your expense.


The BBC link:

Syria war: Turkish-led forces oust Kurdish fighters from heart of Afrin.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-43447624

Tommy's mouth peice for Russia:

US training Syria militants for false flag chemical attack as basis for airstrikes – Russian MoD

https://www.rt.com/news/421589-us-preparing-syria-provocations-airstrikes/

The state held Iranian media, Press TV

US training Syria militants for false flag chemical attacks: Russian cmdr.

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/03/17/555774/US-training-Syria-militants-for-false-flag-chemical-attacks-Russian-cmdr


How disingenuous can Tommy get?

What on earth are you talking about you complete idiot...!!!???


I asked you if you supported the Kurds who have been fighting against ISIS...!?


The other day you were trying to justify a totally illegal (war crime) air strike against Syrian govt forces by the US, by saying it was called in by Kurdish fighters who were being supported in fighting against ISIS and to rightly defend them (which was total bollocks from you, and absolutely no justification for this criminal air strike anyway!)...


The BBC link I posted up is about a northern region of Syria around 'Afrin' (which is next to the southern border of Turkey)...


Here it is again...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-43447624


Now... this region of Kurds who have been valiantly fighting against ISIS throughout the conflict in Syria... have been under attack from Turkish led/backed militia (ISIS/rebels?) for the last couple of months... and the region has now been taken by these Turkish led/backed militia of Turkish forces and ISIS/rebels...


Why are you (and US military air strikes) not supporting the anti ISIS Kurds there in their own region...!?


Why are you not protesting about Turkeys hostile illegal invasion and occupation of this Kurdish region of the Syrian country...!?

Yet again the pathetic worm, cannot answer my questions and tries to pull the wool over peoples eyes, by posting articles that are mouth peices for Iran. Which had nothing to do with the BBC article
Typical twatti, continually misdirecting. I answered your questions, this debate does not continue till you answer mine.


So answer my questions or fuck offf

There is no debate with you dodge, because you have gone into your default bullshit mode again, where you post babble as answers, babble as statements, and a wall of babble as questions...!


Prime example of your babble...


'...So now you are a puppet of a leader that supports and promotes child soldiers in Erdogan and his lies...'


And you expect me to answer that babble...!!!???


What does it even mean...!!!???


It is pure babble!!!


But what is clear to me... you are against all the Syrians & Kurds who are fighting against ISIS... and you support all the outside forces illegally attacking those who are fighting against ISIS...!!!

You want to engage in a debate Tommy, that means that both sides answer points and questions

i answered all yours, and you avoided all mine

That thus makes you redundentin that debate

Either you learn to grow up and activelly engage in them, or you will soon learn that you need to start doing so.

Not going to pander anymore to your pathetic misdirection

Its that simple

Prime example of your babble...


'...So now you are a puppet of a leader that supports and promotes child soldiers in Erdogan and his lies...'


You call that 'an answer'...!!!???


You have no 'points' to be answered... you have been posting babble...!!!

You are the mouthpiece of iran, when you use their stateowned media

Its that simple

Iran is one of the worst human rights abusers and to its very own people.

Prime example of your babble...


'...So now you are a puppet of a leader that supports and promotes child soldiers in Erdogan and his lies...'

Indeed you are a puppet of the Governements of Russia, Syria and Iran.

That is evident, when you refuse to answer questions on them

I have to thus take the view you thus must support them

Its that simple