Why are so many good threads being hijacked by idiots?

[Syl]

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I am getting sick of good threads descending into pathetically childish name calling drivel that would make a 10 year old seem ridiculous.. I, and I suspect many others just give up reading them. 

 It is  imo spoiling the debates and discussion for everyone else...and its happening more and more.

Where's Lord Foul when you need him??

[Guest]

Still waiting to see these videos Gelico

Anytime would be good

go look them up for yourself

So you are too scared to post them, knowing that I am right about your views on this.

No problem

Your reffusal to do so, is damning

[Guest]

How is it uncivil to call out a racist as being racist?

well, if that's all you're capable of then that's all you will do

whatevs

So let me get this straight.

If someone is being racist, you are saying its wrong and uncivil to say they are being racist, correct?

[Guest]

well, if that's all you're capable of then that's all you will do

whatevs

So let me get this straight.

If someone is being racist, you are saying its wrong and uncivil to say they are being racist, correct?

not necessarily wrong, just lazy, boring and you should be capable of doing better is all

but if you can't you can't

dont worry yourself over it

[Tommy Monk]

Didge... it's not your job to define what is or isnt SIXHIRB... and you have no business trying to lay your sensitivities onto anyone else in the form of insults...!!!

[Guest]

So let me get this straight.

If someone is being racist, you are saying its wrong and uncivil to say they are being racist, correct?

not necessarily wrong, just lazy, boring and you should be capable of doing better is all

but if you can't you can't

dont worry yourself over it

This is hilarious and also worrying

So if someone is a Republican, its wrong to call them a Republican?

If they are a Muslim and that is their beliefs, is wrong to call them a Muslim

If they are Nazi, you are saying its wrong to define them by their beliefs?

Frankly, that sort of gibberish is why Nazism, was allowed to rise and gain power

If someone is being racist and you say, we should not point this out, means you want to now defend people being racist. That we should not point out how and why they are being racist.

It seems its you trying to censur

[Guest]

not necessarily wrong, just lazy, boring and you should be capable of doing better is all

but if you can't you can't

dont worry yourself over it

This is hilarious and also worrying

So if someone is a Republican, its wrong to call them a Republican?

If they are a Muslim and that is their beliefs, is wrong to call them a Muslim

If they are Nazi, you are saying its wrong to define them by their beliefs?

Frankly, that sort of gibberish is why Nazism, was allowed to rise and gain power

If someone is being racist and you say, we should not point this out, means you want to now defend people being racist. That we should not point out how and why they are being racist.

It seems its you trying to censur

all i got was blah blah blah nazism

predictably standard guff from you didge

clearly you missed my point completely so i'm gonna leave you to it now

[Guest]

This is hilarious and also worrying

So if someone is a Republican, its wrong to call them a Republican?

If they are a Muslim and that is their beliefs, is wrong to call them a Muslim

If they are Nazi, you are saying its wrong to define them by their beliefs?

Frankly, that sort of gibberish is why Nazism, was allowed to rise and gain power

If someone is being racist and you say, we should not point this out, means you want to now defend people being racist. That we should not point out how and why they are being racist.

It seems its you trying to censur

all i got was blah blah blah nazism

predictably standard guff from you didge

clearly you missed my point completely so i'm gonna leave you to it now

1) Misdirection

2) More misdirection

3) No points answered

Try again

[Victorismyhero]

RIGHT YOU LOT......ITS LIKE THIS......At present I Am VERY busy and preoccupied with a serious family matter,and cant spend thethe time on here.

What I will say however is this.....I WILL have a look round and see whats what from time to time and I will deal with any trouble makers summarily. THERE WILL BE NO ARGUMENT COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION . THOSE WHO ARE INSTIGATING TROUBLE WILL BE BANISHED TO THE DEPTHS WITHOUT ANY FURTHER WARNING AND FOR AN UNSPECIFIED LIMIT OF TIME. I DO NOT HAVE EITHER THE TIME OR PATIENCE FOR THE USUAL IDIOTIC AND JUVENILE CRAP WE SEE BREAKING OUT FROM TIME TO TIME ON. HERE.


There WILL BE NO further warning .

[Guest]

RIGHT YOU LOT......ITS LIKE THIS......At present I Am VERY busy and preoccupied with a serious family matter,and cant spend thethe time on here.

What I will say however is this.....I WILL have a look round and see whats what from time to time and I will deal with any trouble makers summarily. THERE WILL BE NO ARGUMENT COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION . THOSE WHO ARE INSTIGATING TROUBLE WILL BE BANISHED TO THE DEPTHS WITHOUT ANY FURTHER WARNING AND FOR AN UNSPECIFIED LIMIT OF TIME.  I DO NOT HAVE EITHER THE TIME OR PATIENCE FOR THE USUAL IDIOTIC AND JUVENILE CRAP WE SEE BREAKING OUT FROM TIME TO TIME ON. HERE.


There WILL BE NO further warning .

ooooooh get you with all the capital letters. The 'I do not' looked so awesome and scary i just had to colour it in

Lord Big Balls in the house

stand by your beds!!!

[HoratioTarr]

IMO, it's the mindless insults and the "know all" attitude of some posters which wreck threads.

It's all the dick waving and verbal testosterone fuelled 'oneupmanship' that ruins most threads as well.

[HoratioTarr]

Tribalism.  

There aren't enough independent free-thinkers on here that aren't afraid to actually say what they mean and fucking own it.  

I think most of us do say what we mean on here.

[Cass]

Hope everything turns out ok Vic.

[Guest]

Point in case.

This is why threads get hijacked, I would say wolfie is the worst culprit for thread derailment

Actually, when I saw this thread I immediately thought of you, Russ.  You engage in a lot of malice and nonsense.

That's hardly true now is it??

Threads veer off topic naturally, maybe because the topic is boring or maybe because it evolves, you call it malice but it's actually razor edged wit and cunning.

Cuts you so clean you hardly seem to notice the pain.

No Quill, I engage in sensible debate when there is debate to be had, but as Maddog so expertly hit the nail on the head with his tribalism comment, that is indeed what happens.

Everyone is entrenched, there is no compromise or leeway, no room for manoeuvre, only sustained attrition warfare with neither side willing to parlay.

You for instance cannot even admit that crooked is indeed dodgy, to you, her destruction of evidence after being subpoenaed is a minor irrelevance.

Her handling of benghazi and the deaths of those Americans mean nothing to you.

This is why there is no debate, you cannot objectively discuss issues if you are unwilling to acknowledge that your side is just as bad as mine.

The isnt any point debating with you when you whitewash your sides dirty deeds.

All it does is make the other side do the same thing

[Miffs2]

I've been to Dinard, that was a shithole

Hope you are ok Vic xx

[Original Quill]

No Quill, I engage in sensible debate when there is debate to be had, but as Maddog so expertly hit the nail on the head with his tribalism comment, that is indeed what happens.

Call it what you will, it's still malice and nonsense.  You play games with words, deliberately misinterpret posters, joke and ridicule, and taunt all the time.

It doesn't bother me, so I ignore it.  If it's worthy of response, I will give it.  But notice, I probably ignore over 60% of your posts.

[Original Quill]

Her handling of benghazi and the deaths of those Americans mean nothing to you.

Lot's of Americans died. It was a war...one that the Bush administration lied to start. If they were that anxious to go to war, they shouldn't be cry-babies when their fingers get burned.

Truth be told, Benghazi was a CIA base, not a DOS facility. That's why Petraeus was involved in the cover-up. Clinton had naught to do with it.

The Republicans were taking tactical advantage of every one involved. She couldn't defend from the accusations without revealing that it was a CIA facility. Republicans knew that, so they were just having fun.

But, no matter, DOD exonerated her.

[Guest]

No Quill, I engage in sensible debate when there is debate to be had, but as Maddog so expertly hit the nail on the head with his tribalism comment, that is indeed what happens.

Call it what you will, it's still malice and nonsense.  You play games with words, deliberately misinterpret posters, joke and ridicule, and taunt all the time.

It doesn't bother me, so I ignore it.  If it's worthy of response, I will give it.  But notice, I probably ignore over 60% of your posts.

To be fair, Maddog, does engage in lots of sensible debate

[Original Quill]

The isnt any point debating with you when you whitewash your sides dirty deeds.

All it does is make the other side do the same thing

I just make sure I'm right going in. If that means I come out "whitewashed", well so be it. I''m busy arguing points, not worrying about appearances.

[Original Quill]

Call it what you will, it's still malice and nonsense.  You play games with words, deliberately misinterpret posters, joke and ridicule, and taunt all the time.

It doesn't bother me, so I ignore it.  If it's worthy of response, I will give it.  But notice, I probably ignore over 60% of your posts.

To be fair, Maddog, does engage in lots of sensible debate

Number one, that was a quote from Russ, not Maddog.  Russ was quoting Maddog in passing, but my response was not to, or for, Maddog.  It was to Russ.

Number two, I agree with you.  Maddog argues well.

[Syl]

RIGHT YOU LOT......ITS LIKE THIS......At present I Am VERY busy and preoccupied with a serious family matter,and cant spend thethe time on here.

What I will say however is this.....I WILL have a look round and see whats what from time to time and I will deal with any trouble makers summarily. THERE WILL BE NO ARGUMENT COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION . THOSE WHO ARE INSTIGATING TROUBLE WILL BE BANISHED TO THE DEPTHS WITHOUT ANY FURTHER WARNING AND FOR AN UNSPECIFIED LIMIT OF TIME.  I DO NOT HAVE EITHER THE TIME OR PATIENCE FOR THE USUAL IDIOTIC AND JUVENILE CRAP WE SEE BREAKING OUT FROM TIME TO TIME ON. HERE.


There WILL BE NO further warning .

Oooerrr...be carful what you wish for.

Seriously I hope your family matter gets sorted LF.

[Syl]

Call it what you will, it's still malice and nonsense.  You play games with words, deliberately misinterpret posters, joke and ridicule, and taunt all the time.

It doesn't bother me, so I ignore it.  If it's worthy of response, I will give it.  But notice, I probably ignore over 60% of your posts.

To be fair, Maddog, does engage in lots of sensible debate

He does I agree, and even though he and Quill clash a fair bit it doesnt descend into the smellyturdwhatever sort of pre school insults other people favour.

[Guest]

To be fair, Maddog, does engage in lots of sensible debate

He does I agree, and even though he and Quill clash a fair bit it doesnt descend into the smellyturdwhatever sort of pre school insults other people favour.  

But smelly is no better, he runs away from you and me in debate, because he cannot handle reason.

[Syl]

IMO, it's the mindless insults and the "know all" attitude of some posters which wreck threads.

It's all the dick waving and verbal testosterone fuelled 'oneupmanship' that ruins most threads as well.    

I think this is the only forum I have ever posted on where the males are bitchier and even more pathetic than the females.

Obviously not all of them.

[Syl]

Tribalism.  

There aren't enough independent free-thinkers on here that aren't afraid to actually say what they mean and fucking own it.  

I dont agree Eddie, its the free thinking that makes this a less cliquey forum than many.

[Syl]

He does I agree, and even though he and Quill clash a fair bit it doesnt descend into the smellyturdwhatever sort of pre school insults other people favour.  

But smelly is no better, he runs away from you and me in debate, because he cannot handle reason.

True....but if he is scared we should try to be a tad understanding of his fears.

[Maddog]

It's all the dick waving and verbal testosterone fuelled 'oneupmanship' that ruins most threads as well.    

I think this is the only forum I have ever posted on where the males are bitchier and even more pathetic than the females.

Obviously not all of them.

There really should be a dick waving emoticon.

[HoratioTarr]

I think this is the only forum I have ever posted on where the males are bitchier and even more pathetic than the females.

Obviously not all of them.

There really should be a dick waving emoticon.  

[Guest]

No Quill, I engage in sensible debate when there is debate to be had, but as Maddog so expertly hit the nail on the head with his tribalism comment, that is indeed what happens.

Call it what you will, it's still malice and nonsense.  You play games with words, deliberately misinterpret posters, joke and ridicule, and taunt all the time.

It doesn't bother me, so I ignore it.  If it's worthy of response, I will give it.  But notice, I probably ignore over 60% of your posts.

It doesn't bother you??

I can tell

[Syl]

There really should be a dick waving emoticon.  

After you look at the main event...look at the expression on the face.

[eddie]

So let me get this straight.

If someone is being racist, you are saying its wrong and uncivil to say they are being racist, correct?

not necessarily wrong, just lazy, boring and you should be capable of doing better is all

but if you can't you can't

dont worry yourself over it

This is hilarious and also worrying

So if someone is a Republican, its wrong to call them a Republican?

If they are a Muslim and that is their beliefs, is wrong to call them a Muslim

If they are Nazi, you are saying its wrong to define them by their beliefs?

Frankly, that sort of gibberish is why Nazism, was allowed to rise and gain power

If someone is being racist and you say, we should not point this out, means you want to now defend people being racist. That we should not point out how and why they are being racist.

It seems its you trying to censur

You really didn't read her post properly. She's did not say it was wrong but that it was lazy.

And the word is fucking censOr for the love of lollipops.

[Guest]

This is hilarious and also worrying

So if someone is a Republican, its wrong to call them a Republican?

If they are a Muslim and that is their beliefs, is wrong to call them a Muslim

If they are Nazi, you are saying its wrong to define them by their beliefs?

Frankly, that sort of gibberish is why Nazism, was allowed to rise and gain power

If someone is being racist and you say, we should not point this out, means you want to now defend people being racist. That we should not point out how and why they are being racist.

It seems its you trying to censur

You really didn't read her post properly.  She's did not say it was wrong but that it was lazy.

And the word is fucking censOr for the love of lollipops.

Even more stupid

Again, people who make bigoted prejudice views will be exposed, through reason

How about you stop jumping in making a tit of yourself

Yesterday was bad enough when you claim many are not free thinkers and then backtracked

[Syl]

Where was the backtrack?
I didn't see it and I haven't got time to reread all the thread.

[Guest]

Name them then?

Or are you one of those people?

I need to name them? I don't think I do. That's a bit like stating the obvious and I'm not really one to state the obvious.

[Guest]

Name them then?

Or are you one of those people?

I need to name them? I don't think I do. That's a bit like stating the obvious and I'm not really one to state the obvious.

[Guest]

There aren't enough independent free-thinkers on here that aren't afraid to actually say what they mean and fucking own it.  

Name them then?

Or are you one of those people?

[eddie]

I simply said I'm not naming people because I don't see the point. I will say something to the poster if and when it needs saying.

Here's a thought: just because people won't do as you say when you say it, don't assume that they're doing anything other than not jumping to your tune.

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