Driverless cars.

by Andy Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:19 pm

Who is the insured driver?
Who is responsible if it causes a accident?
Who will charge it when the battery runs flat at 0200 in the morning?
Who will redirect it through a temporary diversion?
Who will change the tyre in the event of a puncture?
Who will pay the fine if it jumps a light or speeds through a temporary or variable speed limit?
Fucking stupid idea.
You will not see me in one in a month of Sundays.

by Cass Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:27 pm

Angry Andy wrote:Who is the insured driver?
Who is responsible if it causes a accident?
Who will charge it when the battery runs flat at 0200 in the morning?
Who will redirect it through a temporary diversion?
Who will change the tyre in the event of a puncture?
Who will pay the fine if it jumps a light or speeds through a temporary or variable speed limit?
Fucking stupid idea.
You will not see me in one in a month of Sundays.

I gotta agree. Makes me far too nervous. I think it’s just a bad idea all around.

I’d much rather have a flying car ala The Jetsons.

by Andy Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:15 pm

by magica Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:31 pm

Not for me, its an accident waiting to happen.

With computers and games for kids too, mobile phones, driverless cars, and now talking of robots etc, I wonder do the government's want to raise the now kids as robots themselves. Not thinking for themselves, doing as their told, etc. The future should be a worry to us all.

by Cass Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:57 pm

Angry Andy wrote:

Does it come in blue?

by veya_victaous Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:29 am

Angry Andy wrote:Who is the insured driver?
Who is responsible if it causes a accident?
Who will charge it when the battery runs flat at 0200 in the morning?
Who will redirect it through a temporary diversion?
Who will change the tyre in the event of a puncture?
Who will pay the fine if it jumps a light or speeds through a temporary or variable speed limit?
Fucking stupid idea.
You will not see me in one in a month of Sundays.

it depends on legislation that is not written yet in most places, in California this was raised with the google car and the court ruled google would be the insured driver so it would pay any fines or be liable for at fault accidents.
the others would consumer maintenance, who fills your petrol tanks? Rolling Eyes

Assuming the Californian ruling is the standard I'd be fine in one. it does actually raise a lot of question around maintenance as stuff i think to really take off they will have to change the business model and just lease or rent them and take ownership of all the servicing etc. Plus the real market for self driving vehicles is taxis and trucks

by Cass Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:47 pm

We saw two today. They are being trialed up here in Chandler, Arizona where senior junior lives. They both had drivers but was interesting to see one. Had no idea it was happening here. Still wouldn’t get in one.

Driverless cars. Ac244e10

https://www.google.com/amp/s/futurism.com/waymo-ride-hailing-service-launching-soon-fully-autonomous-cars/amp/

by nicko Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:10 pm

Cost a fortune to buy and maintain,if you don't want to drive , take a Taxi !

by Victorismyhero Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:33 pm

wait till someone figures out how to hack them....and they all turn left at the same time

by Cass Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:07 pm

Lord Foul wrote:wait till someone figures out how to hack them....and they all turn left at the same time

Yup. Was an episode of Criminal Minds. Put me right off of the idea. Once technology is out there, it can be hacked.

I’m sure that my son and his wife will try one out sooner rather than later.

by Maddog Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:39 pm

Luddites.

by Tommy Monk Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:58 pm

I don't like the idea of these...

by nicko Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:38 am

Don't like Driving?.............get a Taxi !
Much cheaper in the long run.

by veya_victaous Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:20 am

nicko wrote:Cost a fortune to buy and maintain,if you don't want to drive , take a Taxi !

and if you want to make money buy a dozen self driving cars and use them as a taxi service Wink

by veya_victaous Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:26 am

Lord Foul wrote:wait till someone figures out how to hack them....and they all turn left at the same time

this goes back to my point about 'servicing' it would have to include a way to update the cars software and thus be able to patch any potential hack, which the company can find out first by offering a bounty to anyone that can hack it. Wink

Also it all becomes a bit more complex legally regarding liability if the software worked fine but some critical mechanical malfunction occurred due to poor maintenance is google still at fault? there isn't any test cases to say yet. Neutral

by nicko Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:18 am

Is there any one who thinks this is just a "Flash in the Pan" and when the excitement wears off it'll turn into a White Elephant?

by veya_victaous Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:50 am

they said he same thing about cars.... never replace a horse, will it nicko Cool

by nicko Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:57 am

Will you be having one, if not why not?

by veya_victaous Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:33 am

nicko wrote:Will you be having one, if not why not?

If i still lived in the city i would consider getting one as soon as they were reliable and all the legal stuff was worked out.
Out here I'd have to wait until they were really reliable (I commute 140km a day, 70 each way), and even the best ones can't avoid Roos yet.... to be fair even as a human driver you can't predict they way they'll bounce.

Mind you, i don't like these 'lane assist' and other features in current new cars, i either want to be in control or not, i don't like the idea of being partially in control

by 'Wolfie Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:40 am

I wouldn't buy one for myself, for one simple reason -- they will remain too bloody expensive to own and maintain, for any one average person...

I would keep a standard (i.e. non-autonomous..) ute, SUV wagon, and/or a small truck, for beekeeping and farm_work, offroad use and heading out away from towns and cities..

And consider renting one for use in around the cities (using it like a cheap taxi/personalised bus service..). Much cheaper and more practical, over the long run..

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