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Post by Andy Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:22 pm

Britain is  half a Trillion pounds worse off than the Govt thought, according to the ONS.

And even the Daily Mail is blaming the Conservatives.

The comments are pretty damning too.

http://dailym.ai/2yrtYG4


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Post by Guest Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:34 pm

Not to worry when we leave the EU we will be billions better off Razz Laughing

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Post by Andy Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:39 pm

Wont even be £350 million per week.
Everyone agrees that was a Brexit lie.
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Post by Guest Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:51 pm

It was taken out of context - but I am pretty sure we will be billions better off which isn't rocket science is it - considering we pay billions each year into the EU .

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Post by Andy Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:58 pm

The context that was plastered all over the red battle Brexit bus was that leaving the EU would divert £350 million into the NHS each week.
It was spun that way and was an outright lie.
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Post by Guest Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:48 pm

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:Not to worry when we leave the EU we will be billions better off Razz Laughing

correct

half a billion will be made back in less than 2 weeks

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Post by SEXY MAMA Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:52 pm

Angry Andy wrote:The context that was plastered all over the red battle Brexit bus was that leaving the EU would divert £350 million into the NHS each week.
It was spun that way and was an outright lie.

Of course it was!

But the gullible believed it!
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Post by Guest Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:53 pm

Angry Andy wrote:The context that was plastered all over the red battle Brexit bus was that leaving the EU would divert £350 million into the NHS each week.
It was spun that way and was an outright lie.

there wasn't a single word,letter or syllable on the bus that should have made anyone think we would be getting 350 million a week for the NHS.

maybe you're just not that intelligent??

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nothing on that bus that says the 350 million a week WILL go to the NHS

"lets fund our NHS instead" is a suggestion not a promise

did you attend the didge school of english??

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Post by Andy Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:55 pm

Nazis always hide from the truth.
Just to help cleft brain, EU. £35 MILLION. NHS.

ALL IN THE SAME ADVERT.


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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:56 pm

How many times does Andy need this explained to him before he understands it...!?


It was even hotly debated and explained many times in the run up to the referendum...!!!


Andy... please stop reposting this waffle!!!


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Post by Guest Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:56 pm

Angry Andy wrote:Nazis always hide from the truth.

cant hide forever

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Post by Guest Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:57 pm

Angry Andy wrote:Nazis always hide from the truth.

Who are you calling Nazi ?

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Post by Guest Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:57 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:How many times does Andy need this explained to him before he understands it...!?


It was even hotly debated and explained many times in the run up to the referendum...!!!


Andy... please stop reposting this waffle!!!



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Post by Andy Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:25 pm

I guessed at the outset the far rights here would deflect/ misdirect from the thread topic. Sure as eggs, they did.
They always do.
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Post by Eilzel Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:41 am

I know people who quoted that ridiculous bus as though it were to be taken as a promise. Farage even rejected it as such post referendum. Whether the wording was suggestive or not there is little doubt that that was the intended way the designer wanted the message read, to lure in angry voters with a vague 'promise'. Typical political disingenuity swallowed wholesale by millions (even if not all) of delusional Brexit voters.
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Post by Guest Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:58 am

Eilzel wrote:I know people who quoted that ridiculous bus as though it were to be taken as a promise. Farage even rejected it as such post referendum. Whether the wording was suggestive or not there is little doubt that that was the intended way the designer wanted the message read, to lure in angry voters with a vague 'promise'. Typical political disingenuity swallowed wholesale by millions (even if not all) of delusional Brexit voters.

and what of the lies told by the remain side elizel??

i cant even begin to remember them they were so outrageous but i do remember that Cameron promised us world war 3 if we left because we left??

none of the predictions by project fear have come to pass and never will

that's what you call a lie, clever wording designed to trick the gullible is just business it happens every time you see an advert on TV of a politician of any variety open his mouth, apart from farage and trump, those two are men of true integrity who truly tell only the truth



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Post by Eilzel Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:51 am

smelly-bandit wrote:
Eilzel wrote:I know people who quoted that ridiculous bus as though it were to be taken as a promise. Farage even rejected it as such post referendum. Whether the wording was suggestive or not there is little doubt that that was the intended way the designer wanted the message read, to lure in angry voters with a vague 'promise'. Typical political disingenuity swallowed wholesale by millions (even if not all) of delusional Brexit voters.

and what of the lies told by the remain side elizel??

i cant even begin to remember them they were so outrageous but i do remember that Cameron promised us world war 3 if we left because we left??

none of the predictions by project fear have come to pass and never will

that's what you call a lie, clever wording designed to trick the gullible is just business it happens every time you see an advert on TV of a politician of any variety open his mouth, apart from farage and trump, those two are men of true integrity who truly tell only the truth



You really are just on a wind up with that last line.

At least you don't deny the Brexit campaign played tricks to win.

And Cameron never said leaving would cause WW3, he said the long standing peace in Europe was partly thanks to the EU. Not an unfair statement at all. And a million miles from suggesting what you say.
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Post by 'Wolfie Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:07 am

smelly-bandit wrote:
Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:
Not to worry when we leave the EU we will be billions better off Razz Laughing


correct

half a billion will be made back in less than 2 weeks

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Post by 'Wolfie Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:12 am

smelly-bandit wrote:
Angry Andy wrote:The context that was plastered all over the red battle Brexit bus was that leaving the EU would divert £350 million into the NHS each week.
It was spun that way and was an outright lie.

there wasn't a single word,letter or syllable on the bus that should have made anyone think we would be getting 350 million a week for the NHS.

maybe you're just not that intelligent??

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nothing on that bus that says the 350 million a week WILL go to the NHS

"lets fund our NHS instead" is a suggestion not a promise

did you attend the didge school of english??

Laughing

You're the one who clearly doesn't comprehend written English,  Herr Smelly'EnglishIsMySecondLanguage'Bumster  !!!
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Post by Guest Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:18 am

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

correct

half a billion will be made back in less than 2 weeks

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half a billion is 500 million

the brexit battle bus promises to get back 350 million per week that we pay into the EU

2 x 350 = 700

700 > 500

less than two weeks

you attend the didge school of english and the diane abbot school of maths it would seem


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Post by Guest Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:29 am

Eilzel wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

and what of the lies told by the remain side elizel??

i cant even begin to remember them they were so outrageous but i do remember that Cameron promised us world war 3 if we left because we left??

none of the predictions by project fear have come to pass and never will

that's what you call a lie, clever wording designed to trick the gullible is just business it happens every time you see an advert on TV of a politician of any variety open his mouth, apart from farage and trump, those two are men of true integrity who truly tell only the truth



You really are just on a wind up with that last line.

At least you don't deny the Brexit campaign played tricks to win.

And Cameron never said leaving would cause WW3, he said the long standing peace in Europe was partly thanks to the EU. Not an unfair statement at all. And a million miles from suggesting what you say.

of course tricks were played, but the only side that told outright lies was the remain side, a fact you seem to ignore,avoid and deny (cognitive dissonance perhaps??)

the brexit team only ever promised things that could happen once we left all of which were true

they also said that those things could only happen once we left - true

the remain side we could have our cake and eat it, they promised us reform, they said we could stay in the EU and curb free movement, they promised us there would be no EU army, every word uttered by project fear was a lie.

name a single thing they said would happen if we voted to leave that has happened??

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Post by 'Wolfie Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:30 am

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:
Angry Andy wrote:
Nazis always hide from the truth.

Who are you calling Nazi ?

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Post by Andy Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:14 am

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Post by 'Wolfie Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:34 am

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Britain half a £Trillion worse off 1399249160       By looking to selected conversion rates for the Euro' and certain African currencies, the Brexiteers liked to claim that the £ had bounced back after a few days...

However, in more broader international terms,  the comparative value of the Pound Sterling today is around 15% lower than it was a year ago..

A good time for Aussie, Canadian, Kiwi, American, Japanese, Korean and Chinese tourists to visit the Ol' Blighty,  no doubt.
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Post by Guest Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:04 pm

Can't wait to leave and if they walk away even better Smile

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Post by Guest Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:04 pm

Back to the op. We are now half a TRILLION pounds worse off than we thought we were. Obviously some on here are too bloody dumb to understand the implications of that. Doesn't surprise me.

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Post by Guest Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:06 pm

Angry Andy wrote:Britain is  half a billion pounds worse off than the Govt thought, according to the ONS.

And even the Daily Mail is blaming the Conservatives.

The comments are pretty damning too.

http://dailym.ai/2yrtYG4

Andy, it's HALF A TRILLION, suggest you change the header

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Post by Andy Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:15 pm

Thanks Sassy. Now done. Billion. Trillion.
Doesnt make any difference to the retards on here who would happily bankrupt the country and selltheir family in the name of personal greed.
The fake Christians here are as bad as the lying alt right racist Fascists.
If they represent their God, does he live on clouds or fire and brimstone.
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Post by Guest Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:20 pm

Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:Can't wait to leave and if they walk away even better Smile

we will walk away, we will have to.

the eu fanatics are no better than ISIS and like ISIS the EU will punish any who choose to leave their dangerous cult.

it will hurt us but it will destroy the EU cheers


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Post by Guest Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:22 pm

Angry Andy wrote:Thanks Sassy. Now done. Billion. Trillion.
Doesnt  make any difference to the retards on here who would happily bankrupt the country and selltheir family in the name of personal greed.
The fake Christians here are as bad as the lying alt right racist Fascists.
If they represent their God,  does he live on clouds or fire and brimstone.

yeah that was one of the promises made by the remaniacs

bankruptcy not happened yet has it??

although if we vote labour into power next election that will be a certainty

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Post by Andy Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:03 pm

Well, read the thread title.
We are now half a TRILLION pounds worse off than predicted.....by the Brexiteers.
And it will get worse as costs rise, inflation rises, interest rates rise, families become £500 oer year worse off.
At least you can fuck off backto your shanty town and cast abuse at the blecks.
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Post by 'Wolfie Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:15 pm

smelly-bandit wrote:
Angry Andy wrote:
Thanks Sassy. Now done. Billion. Trillion.
Doesnt  make any difference to the retards on here who would happily bankrupt the country and selltheir family in the name of personal greed.
The fake Christians here are as bad as the lying alt right racist Fascists.
If they represent their God,  does he live on clouds or fire and brimstone.


yeah that was one of the promises made by the remaniacs

bankruptcy not happened yet has it??

although if we vote labour into power next election that will be a certainty

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Conservative political parties always love to push the fallacy that "conservatives are 'naturally' better economic managers than everyone else..".

Why is it then, that conservative parties will unfailingly manage to leave behind higher total national debts, higher unemployment levels and lower average wages (after adjusting for inflation..) --  despite all of their ballyhooed nonsense over "balanced budgets", lower corporate taxes and "trickle down" lies  ???
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Post by Guest Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:34 pm

Angry Andy wrote:Well, read the thread title.
We are now half a TRILLION pounds worse off than predicted.....by the Brexiteers.
And it will get worse as costs rise, inflation rises, interest rates rise, families become £500  oer year worse off.
At least you can fuck off backto your shanty town and cast abuse at the blecks.

nonsense andy 500 million is too large a sum to misplace, this would have come to light much sooner if it were true

i fear you are once again falling for the lies of project fear.

the future is going to be fantastic, no longer tied to the crumbling EU , the UK will soar above the ruins and shit all over them, i know you will never publicly thank me and the rest of the brexiteers for what we have done for you, but i know deep down you will be thanking us

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Post by Andy Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:45 pm

So even the msinstream media, most of the British press, including the broadsheets, rw tabloids and even Murdoch's Sky News are lying.
You have been suckered.
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Post by Guest Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:52 pm

Angry Andy wrote:So even the msinstream media, most of the British press, including the broadsheets, rw tabloids and even Murdoch's  Sky News are lying.
You have been suckered.

suddenly you're a fan of the RW press

how quickly you throw your principles away

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Post by Andy Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:03 pm

I said EVEN the rw press agree, albeit humbly and eating a chuffing big lump of humble pie.

The alt right are isolated and wrong.
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I said EVEN the rw press agree, albeit humbly and eating a chuffing big lump of humble pie.

The alt right are isolated and wrong.
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Post by Guest Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:13 pm

Angry Andy wrote:I said EVEN the rw press agree, albeit humbly and eating a chuffing big lump of humble pie.

The alt right are isolated and wrong.

are you a brexiphobe??

irrationally scared of brexit??


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I said EVEN the rw press agree, albeit humbly and eating a chuffing big lump of humble pie.

The alt right are isolated and wrong.
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smelly-bandit wrote:
Angry Andy wrote:Thanks Sassy. Now done. Billion. Trillion.
Doesnt  make any difference to the retards on here who would happily bankrupt the country and selltheir family in the name of personal greed.
The fake Christians here are as bad as the lying alt right racist Fascists.
If they represent their God,  does he live on clouds or fire and brimstone.

yeah that was one of the promises made by the remaniacs

bankruptcy not happened yet has it??

although if we vote labour into power next election that will be a certainty

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smelly-bandit wrote:
Vicar of Dibley (vod) wrote:Not to worry when we leave the EU we will be billions better off Razz Laughing

correct

half a billion will be made back in less than 2 weeks

agree.

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Post by Guest Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:29 pm

Good grief, the dumb brigade are at it again

HALF A TRILLION IS £500 BILLION



Try making that back in two weeks.   And it's already gone, which means we have no resources for the difficult times as we change over.   I do hope you can explain that to your children and grandchildren when they are thrown out of work and have trouble buying food, the price of which willl go through the ceiling, we on make 50% of what we eat and export 10% of that.  How stupid can you get.

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Post by Guest Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:32 pm

sassy wrote:Good grief, the dumb brigade are at it again

HALF A TRILLION IS £500 BILLION



Try making that back in two weeks.   And it's already gone, which means we have no resources for the difficult times as we change over.   I do hope you can explain that to your children and grandchildren when they are thrown out of work and have trouble buying food, the price of which willl go through the ceiling, we on make 50% of what we eat and export 10% of that.  How stupid can you get.

and half a billion which Andy initially quoted is 500 million

you had to inform the idiot of his mistake and are now trying to proceed as if nothing had happned

not so fast sassy, ole smellys got his eye on you

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Post by Guest Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:33 pm

sassy wrote:
Angry Andy wrote:Britain is  half a billion pounds worse off than the Govt thought, according to the ONS.

And even the Daily Mail is blaming the Conservatives.

The comments are pretty damning too.

http://dailym.ai/2yrtYG4

Andy, it's HALF A TRILLION, suggest you change the header

see???

here you tell andy of his mistake

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smelly-bandit wrote:
sassy wrote:Good grief, the dumb brigade are at it again

HALF A TRILLION IS £500 BILLION



Try making that back in two weeks.   And it's already gone, which means we have no resources for the difficult times as we change over.   I do hope you can explain that to your children and grandchildren when they are thrown out of work and have trouble buying food, the price of which willl go through the ceiling, we on make 50% of what we eat and export 10% of that.  How stupid can you get.

and half a billion which Andy initially quoted is 500 million

you had to inform the idiot of his mistake and are now trying to proceed as if nothing had happned

not so fast sassy, ole smellys got his eye on you


He gave you the link, the fact you can't read isn't my problem.


Shock figures reveal Britain is half a TRILLION pounds poorer than thought

The ONS quietly published a massive review of the national accounts last month
It burst into view today exposing a £490billion write down in Britain's wealth
No 10 played down the figures and said the UK economy remained strong


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4984798/Half-TRILLION-pounds-wiped-Britain-s-wealth.html#ixzz4vn9M9pRW
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Post by Guest Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:35 pm

sassy wrote:
smelly-bandit wrote:

and half a billion which Andy initially quoted is 500 million

you had to inform the idiot of his mistake and are now trying to proceed as if nothing had happned

not so fast sassy, ole smellys got his eye on you


He gave you the link, the fact you can't read isn't my problem.


Shock figures reveal Britain is half a TRILLION pounds poorer than thought

   The ONS quietly published a massive review of the national accounts last month
   It burst into view today exposing a £490billion write down in Britain's wealth
   No 10 played down the figures and said the UK economy remained strong  


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4984798/Half-TRILLION-pounds-wiped-Britain-s-wealth.html#ixzz4vn9M9pRW
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the fact that he is sloppy and cant even quote his own link properly isn't my problem

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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:26 pm



'...a £490billion write down in the nation's wealth after a major review of accounts since 1997...'


Seems this is down to labours dodgy fudging of the figures from 1997 - 2010... and after this 'major review', the figures are now more accurate...!


Although still only an ONS 'estimate'...!


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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:25 pm

And it looks like the lefties have run away again after another example of where labour have been well and truly caught out in their fiddling of the figures while in govt...!!!


The OP figures have changed as a result of extensive auditing and review of all figures from 1997...


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Post by Andy Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:40 pm

The lefty didnt run away. I toik Mrs HA to the O2 to see Neil Diamond.
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