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Post by Guest Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:45 pm

[*]The incidents occurred at Volksfest in Schorndorf, Baden-Wuerttemberg state
[*]A 20-year-old Iraqi man and three Afghan asylum seekers treated as suspects
[*]The Afghan men, aged 18 to 20, said to be accused of groping a 17-year-old girl
[*]Crowd of more than 1,000 people reported to have hurled bottles at riot police


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Post by Original Quill Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:08 pm

Accusations.

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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:39 pm



'...Authorities claimed they were roving through the streets armed with knives and replica handguns, firing flares and teargas...'


They should have been shot...

But now I hope they are rounded up and deported...

Should just air drop them back into where ever theycame from...!
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Post by magica Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:52 pm

This is becoming the norm for asylum seekers to rape, abuse or grab girls.

They should be locked up, then deported.
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Post by Original Quill Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:03 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

'...Authorities claimed they were roving through the streets armed with knives and replica handguns, firing flares and teargas...'

They should have been shot...

The authorities???

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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:08 pm

No... the dangerous armed and violent foreign mobs should have been shot...

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Post by Original Quill Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:18 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:No... the dangerous armed and violent foreign mobs should have been shot...

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Genocide. The least creative answer.

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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:51 pm

Hardly...

Armed and dangerous violent thugs should be met with strong force...

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Post by Original Quill Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:10 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Hardly...

Armed and dangerous violent thugs should be met with strong force...

Forget the adjectives, what you are talking about is killing, right?

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Post by Tommy Monk Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:03 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

Armed and dangerous violent thugs should be met with strong force...


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Post by nicko Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:58 am

Lock and load !
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Post by Original Quill Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:34 pm

nicko wrote:Lock and load !

Just remember the last time you tried it...

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Post by nicko Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:53 pm

Didn't we burn down the Whitehouse?
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Post by Original Quill Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:07 pm

nicko wrote:Didn't we burn down the Whitehouse?

Mrs. Monroe was redecorating anyway. All you did was carry out the trash,

Razz

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Post by Tommy Monk Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:42 pm

I dont think quill has realised that this was in germany, where merkel thought it was a good idea to allow amillion 3rd world Muslim men in posing as 17 year old asylum seekers... nothing to do with uk...

And these violent thugs were running around in mobs armed with knives and guns... if this was in the USA, they would have been shot!!!
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Post by Original Quill Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:49 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:I dont think quill has realised that this was in germany, where merkel thought it was a good idea to allow amillion 3rd world Muslim men in posing as 17 year old asylum seekers... nothing to do with uk...

And these violent thugs were running around in mobs armed with knives and guns... if this was in the USA, they would have been shot!!!

I believe authorities have said it happened in the town of Schorndorf, in the German state of Baden-Württemberg. There's nothing mysterious about the location.

http://www.dw.com/en/rioting-breaks-out-at-festival-in-southern-german-town/a-39720315

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Tommy Monk wrote:I dont think quill has realised that this was in germany, where merkel thought it was a good idea to allow amillion 3rd world Muslim men in posing as 17 year old asylum seekers... nothing to do with uk...

And these violent thugs were running around in mobs armed with knives and guns... if this was in the USA, they would have been shot!!!

I believe authorities have said it happened in the town of Schorndorf, in the German state of Baden-Württemberg.  There's nothing mysterious about the location.

http://www.dw.com/en/rioting-breaks-out-at-festival-in-southern-german-town/a-39720315


Exactly!

So your posts with references to Britain are superfluous...!?

And do you deny that if this was in the USA that they would be met with armed response and likely shot...?

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Post by veya_victaous Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:32 am

A police spokesman said on Monday that the violence against officers was "horrifying," adding that the aggression had taken on a new quality. He said the excessive consumption of alcohol had played a large role in the violence.

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Post by Original Quill Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:55 pm

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I believe authorities have said it happened in the town of Schorndorf, in the German state of Baden-Württemberg.  There's nothing mysterious about the location.

http://www.dw.com/en/rioting-breaks-out-at-festival-in-southern-german-town/a-39720315


Exactly!

So your posts with references to Britain are superfluous...!?

About genocide?  No, it's not superfluous.  Just not polite conversation during tea.  I"m merely pointing out that, once again, you are returning to old habits.

Tommy Monk wrote:And do you deny that if this was in the USA that they would be met with armed response and likely shot...?

Of course I do.  It hasn't happened yet, has it?  

The US is disciplined and precise, and that makes for some harsh consequences in certain adverse decisions.  But the US does not shoot anyone without due process of law, rogue elements notwithstanding. But then, the US didn't go around the world, empire building, trying to bully people into it's world kingdom.

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Post by Tommy Monk Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:29 pm

Come off it quill...

your police shoot people who are running away...!!

Do you realy expect us to believe that if a dangerous mob armed with knives and guns were coming towards your police, that they wouldnt be shooting them...!!!???

You are a joker...!
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Post by Guest Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:32 pm

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Exactly!

So your posts with references to Britain are superfluous...!?

About genocide?  No, it's not superfluous.  Just not polite conversation during tea.  I"m merely pointing out that, once again, you are returning to old habits.

Tommy Monk wrote:And do you deny that if this was in the USA that they would be met with armed response and likely shot...?

Of course I do.  It hasn't happened yet, has it?  

The US is disciplined and precise, and that makes for some harsh consequences in certain adverse decisions.  But the US does not shoot anyone without due process of law, rogue elements notwithstanding.  But then, the US didn't go around the world, empire building, trying to bully people into it's world kingdom.


The US itself was formed and created, from bullying, broken treaties, stealing land, war, murder, pillage etc and that is just what came to be known as the US. 

Plus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_territorial_acquisitions

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Post by Original Quill Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:42 pm

Thorin wrote:The US itself was formed and created, from bullying, broken treaties, stealing land, war, murder, pillage etc and that is just what came to be known as the US.

Exactly.  The US was formed out of rejection to the colonizing and empire-building of the UK.  The Monroe Doctrine was a statement to all of Europe: Stay out of America or we'll kick yer ass out!  

The doctrine was enforced by the Spanish-American war.  Unfortunately, it resulted in the US inadvertently ending up with an empire of its own. Poetic justice, perhaps. Lol.  However, we subsequently set the Philippines loose, and we are granting Puerto Rico a free choice as we speak.

Contrast this with Europe, which aggressively sought its empires by genocide and force.

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Original Quill wrote:
Thorin wrote:The US itself was formed and created, from bullying, broken treaties, stealing land, war, murder, pillage etc and that is just what came to be known as the US.

Exactly.  The US was formed out of rejection to the colonizing and empire-building of the UK.  The Monroe Doctrine was a statement to all of Europe: Stay out of America or we'll kick yer ass out!  

The doctrine was enforced by the Spanish-American war.  Unfortunately, it resulted in the US inadvertently ending up with an empire of its own.  Poetic justice, perhaps.  Lol.  However, we subsequently set the Philippines loose, and we are granting Puerto Rico a free choice as we speak.

Contrast this with Europe, which aggressively sought its empires by genocide and force.


No it was formed first out of learning from their former masters. To take from others what was not theirs.
So after the 13 colonies, they then went on to make countless treaties with the indigenous. Only to then break every single one of them with them. Start countless wars and conflicts.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_territorial_acquisitions#/media/File:Non-Native_American_Nations_Control_over_N_America_1750-2008.gif


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Post by Original Quill Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:13 pm

Thorin wrote:No it was formed first out of learning from their former masters. To take from others what was not theirs.
So after the 13 colonies, they then went on to make countless treaties with the indigenous. Only to then break every single one of them with them. Start countless wars and conflicts.

Yes, that was unfortunate.  And continued slavery was a blemish on the good intentions.  But it proves only that progress and justice are emerging trends, not complete in one minute.

However, blocking colonization and advancing freedom were significant steps in the progress of man.  I think that to walk backwards would be a mistake.

BTW, great graphics.  There's something about a progressive map that tells so much more than words.

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Thorin wrote:No it was formed first out of learning from their former masters. To take from others what was not theirs.
So after the 13 colonies, they then went on to make countless treaties with the indigenous. Only to then break every single one of them with them. Start countless wars and conflicts.

Yes, that was unfortunate.  And continued slavery was a blemish on the good intentions.  But it proves only that progress and justice are emerging trends, not complete in one minute.

However, blocking colonization and advancing freedom were significant steps in the progress of man.  I think that to walk backwards would be a mistake.

BTW, great graphics.  There's something about a progressive map that tells so much more than words.


So your original post to Tommy you admit to being incorrect.

Well done.

The map was from the link I gave you.

I admits its excellent

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Yes, that was unfortunate.  And continued slavery was a blemish on the good intentions.  But it proves only that progress and justice are emerging trends, not complete in one minute.

However, blocking colonization and advancing freedom were significant steps in the progress of man.  I think that to walk backwards would be a mistake.

BTW, great graphics.  There's something about a progressive map that tells so much more than words.


So your original post to Tommy you admit to being incorrect.

Well done.

No, tommy still favors the old, genocidal way. You have joined him. I think there is a better way, having to do with freedom and justice for all.

Thorin wrote:The map was from the link I gave you.

I admits its excellent

Did you notice the line of lakes extending from the Northwest Territories down into Minnesota and Lake Superior? I wonder if that is a seam from continental drift.

And I have read that the Salton Sea is really an extension of an inland sea extending northward from the Sea of Cortez. Interesting maps.

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So your original post to Tommy you admit to being incorrect.

Well done.

No, tommy still favors the old, genocidal way.  You have joined him.  I think there is a better way, having to do with freedom and justice for all.

Thorin wrote:The map was from the link I gave you.

I admits its excellent

Did you notice the line of lakes extending from the Northwest Territories down into Minnesota and Lake Superior?  I wonder if that is a seam from continental drift.

And I have read that the Salton Sea is really an extension of an inland sea extending northward from the Sea of Cortez.  Interesting maps.


Where have I joined Tommy?

I just pointed out your errors

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Thorin wrote:
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No, tommy still favors the old, genocidal way.  You have joined him.  I think there is a better way, having to do with freedom and justice for all.



Did you notice the line of lakes extending from the Northwest Territories down into Minnesota and Lake Superior?  I wonder if that is a seam from continental drift.

And I have read that the Salton Sea is really an extension of an inland sea extending northward from the Sea of Cortez.  Interesting maps.


Where have I joined Tommy?

I just pointed out your errors

Tommy favors a firing squad for Africans. Follow the discussion. Pay closer attention to which argument you are joining.

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Where have I joined Tommy?

I just pointed out your errors

Tommy favors a firing squad for Africans.  Follow the discussion.  Pay closer attention to which argument you are joining.

Tommy's view would cause mass bloodshed and could lead to a spiral of worse riots, based off the mass death of the first one..
So its a no brainer.
I was more interested in your error

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Thorin wrote:
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Tommy favors a firing squad for Africans.  Follow the discussion.  Pay closer attention to which argument you are joining.

Tommy's view would cause mass bloodshed and could lead to a spiral of worse riots, based off the mass death of the first one..
So its a no brainer.
I was more interested in your error

You mean my example. I accept your acquiescence.

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Where have I joined Tommy?

I just pointed out your errors

Tommy favors a firing squad for Africans.  Follow the discussion.  Pay closer attention to which argument you are joining.


You just cant help lying, can you...!?


I never said anything of the sort!!!
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Tommy Monk wrote:
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Tommy favors a firing squad for Africans.  Follow the discussion.  Pay closer attention to which argument you are joining.

You just cant help lying, can you...!?

I never said anything of the sort!!!

Tut, tut, tommy. Mustn't tell porkers...

Tommy Monk wrote:'...Authorities claimed they were roving through the streets armed with knives and replica handguns, firing flares and teargas...'

They should have been shot...

The firing squad is just the more efficient way.

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Post by Raggamuffin Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:22 pm

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You just cant help lying, can you...!?

I never said anything of the sort!!!

Tut, tut, tommy.  Mustn't tell porkers...

Tommy Monk wrote:'...Authorities claimed they were roving through the streets armed with knives and replica handguns, firing flares and teargas...'

They should have been shot...

The firing squad is just the more efficient way.

They weren't Africans.
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Post by Tommy Monk Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:44 pm

Exactly!

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Post by Original Quill Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:34 pm

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Tut, tut, tommy.  Mustn't tell porkers...



The firing squad is just the more efficient way.

They weren't Africans.

Doesn't improve his position. They'd be just as dead.

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They weren't Africans.

Doesn't improve his position.  They'd be just as dead.

You accused him of telling porkies though, and he wasn't. He didn't mention firing squads either.
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Post by Tommy Monk Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:06 pm

The police have a duty to tackle violent dangerous hostile mobs who are armed with guns and knives...!

What would you like to see the police response armed with...?

Warm words, free shish kebabs, and 'Ken Dodd ticking sticks'...!!!???

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What would USA police be doing in dealing with them...!?

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Post by Guest Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:28 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:The police have a duty to tackle violent dangerous hostile mobs who are armed with guns and knives...!

What would you like to see the police response armed with...?

Warm words, free shish kebabs, and 'Ken Dodd ticking sticks'...!!!???

Laughing

What would USA police be doing in dealing with them...!?



The way the Police handled the situation by any chance?

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Post by Guest Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:30 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Hardly...

Armed and dangerous violent thugs should be met with strong force...



The dark side of the force?

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Post by Original Quill Thu Jul 20, 2017 12:40 am

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Doesn't improve his position.  They'd be just as dead.

You accused him of telling porkies though, and he wasn't. He didn't mention firing squads either.

Yes he did.  He wants firing squads on Afghans...and Africans, as seen on the other thread:

Tommy Monk wrote:These are sub saharan africans were talking about...

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Post by Tommy Monk Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:10 am

Waffle...

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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:19 pm

Original Quill wrote:
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You accused him of telling porkies though, and he wasn't. He didn't mention firing squads either.

Yes he did.  He wants firing squads on Afghans...and Africans, as seen on the other thread:

Tommy Monk wrote:These are sub saharan africans were talking about...

A different subject entirely, and where did he mention firing squads?
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Post by Tommy Monk Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:28 pm



I didnt... quill is lying...!
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Post by Original Quill Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:46 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
I didnt... quill is lying...!

Tommy Monk wrote:They should have been shot...

So now you are cowering out of your shoot 'em up attitude.  Good.  Nothing is gained by violence, and your reference to it means someone might take you up on the suggestion.  You don't want that.

This is a matter for the law courts.  Let procedures take their course.

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Post by Tommy Monk Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:52 pm

Im not cowering away from anything I said... just pointing out that you were lying about what i said...

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Post by Original Quill Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:00 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Im not cowering away from anything I said... just pointing out that you were lying about what i said...

Tommy Monk wrote:They should have been shot...

Your words tommy. Nobody else's...

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Post by Tommy Monk Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:55 pm

A dangerous violent mob armed with knives and guns should expect to be tackled by armed police units in response to the threat they pose...


I made this quite clear...


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