US woman shoots boyfriend in YouTube stunt

by Guest Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:08 am

A Minnesota woman has been charged over the fatal shooting of her boyfriend, in what authorities say was a social media stunt gone wrong.

Monalisa Perez, 19, was booked into county jail after shooting at Pedro Ruiz as he held a book to his chest, believing it would stop the bullet. The couple's three-year-old child and nearly 30 onlookers watched as she fired the fatal bullet into his chest. Ruiz's aunt said they did it to increase their social media following. Claudia Ruiz told WDAY-TV that her nephew had told her he wanted to do the stunt "because we want more viewers, we want to get famous". "He had told me about that idea and I said, 'Don't do it. Don't do it. Why are you going to use a gun? Why?'" Claudia Ruiz told the news channel.

"They were in love, they loved each other," she said. "It was just a prank gone wrong."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40438207

by 'Wolfie Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:39 am

Yet another example of "Darwinism in action"...

One more idiot removing himself from the gene pool..

by eddie Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:19 am

How stupid do you have to be to think a book is going to stop a bullet (him) and how stupid do you have to be to pull the trigger (her)?
How stupid do you have to be to do it in front of your child??

Seriously. Some people are just too fucking dumb for words.

by Original Quill Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:06 am

eddie wrote:How stupid do you have to be to think a book is going to stop a bullet (him) and how stupid do you have to be to pull the trigger (her)?
How stupid do you have to be to do it in front of your child??

Seriously. Some people are just too fucking dumb for words.

And that is her defense. There's no mens rea, just stupidity. No pecuniary motive. No profit. No gain whatsoever. Just stupidity. She probably will plead error and mistake.

But she didn't intend to harm anybody. It was a miscalculation, and the gun unexpectedly killed him. How do you call it...an error due to stupidity.

by Victorismyhero Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:33 am

surely negligence (negligent manslaughter here) does not require mens rea?

by nicko Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:48 pm

It said on Facebook by an American, he was shot with a .50 calibre from 1 foot away ! no mention of the holes in all the walls plus several cars in the street and a few persons a mile away !!

by Original Quill Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:58 pm

Lord Foul wrote:surely negligence (negligent manslaughter here) does not require mens rea?

There is no offense entitled "criminally negligent homicide" in California. Involuntary manslaughter, killing someone by committing (1) a misdemeanor, or (2) through recklessness, is punishable by up to four years in prison. (3) Vehicular manslaughter with gross negligence can be punished by up to six years in prison, but that's under the vehicle code.

Under California Penal Code 192(b), the key feature of California involuntary manslaughter is that it does not require intent to kill another person—unlike Penal Code 187 murder, which requires “malice aforethought. Effectively, it operates just like your negligent manslaughter.

by Original Quill Fri Jun 30, 2017 7:47 pm

nicko wrote:It said on Facebook by an American, he was shot with a .50 calibre from 1 foot away ! no mention of the holes in all the walls plus several cars in the street and a few persons a mile away !!

Need link.

by Guest Fri Jun 30, 2017 7:50 pm

Original Quill wrote:
eddie wrote:How stupid do you have to be to think a book is going to stop a bullet (him) and how stupid do you have to be to pull the trigger (her)?
How stupid do you have to be to do it in front of your child??

Seriously. Some people are just too fucking dumb for words.

And that is her defense. There's no mens rea, just stupidity. No pecuniary motive. No profit. No gain whatsoever. Just stupidity. She probably will plead error and mistake.

But she didn't intend to harm anybody. It was a miscalculation, and the gun unexpectedly killed him. How do you call it...an error due to stupidity.

Agree on everything you say Quill, except the point on miscalculation.
As did she ever calculate whether a book could stop the penetrative force of a bullet?
I very much doubt that and it was based on a misguided "belief" that it would stop a bullet.

by Raggamuffin Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:15 pm

Wouldn't you at least try shooting through a book to see if the bullet went through?

by Guest Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:19 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:Wouldn't you at least try shooting through a book to see if the bullet went through?

That at least would be a measure to calculate off from rags.

by nicko Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:50 pm

Quill, can't give link, it was on 4.30 am this morning , gone now. First bit was factual, second bit was mine, saying [jokingly] where the bullet from a .50 cal might go !!

by JulesV Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:20 am

Prank backfired then!
Ooooops!!

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