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Post by Ben Reilly Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:30 am

On April 7, President Trump committed his first “act of war,” attacking Syria with missiles in response to what he said was a poison gas attack by the Syrian government that killed dozens. But the White House’s subsequent intelligence report offering its proof of Syria’s role was “false” and “fraudulent,” suggesting a “coverup” by a president acting without any intelligence and intentionally lying to the public.

These are the characterizations of two longtime experts in war studies and missile systems, which—along with coordinated comments by Vice President Mike Pence in South Korea and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson in Russia that America’s “strategic patience” is ending—suggest Trump may be seeking a war of choice, even if it involves fabricated intelligence.

President George W. Bush’s White House fabricated intelligence concerning Iraq’s alleged weapons of mass destruction before his April 2003 invasion of Iraq. What seems to be unfolding at the top ranks of the Trump administration is similar to Bush’s pronouncements and evidence following the 9/11 terrorist attack.

This latest outburst of militarism began April 4, when it appears that poison gas, possibly the nerve agent sarin, killed dozens of Syrian civilians in the town of Khan Shaykhun. These deaths, among them women and children, are uncontested and documented on videos. Which poison gas was used, how it was delivered and who was behind the incident remain unanswered questions, said Phyllis Bennis, director of the New Internationalism Project at the Institute for Policy Studies, though United Nations scientists and Turkish doctors who did autopsies have pointed to sarin.

“The Syrian government may well be responsible for the attack, or others may have been involved,” she said. “But without an independent, international investigation, we simply don’t know. That means the Organization for the Prevention of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) [an international body with 192 member countries] must be given a full and complete and open mandate to follow all leads and report fully.”

“Similarly, we have reports from Turkey that autopsies on some of the bodies indicated the gas was sarin; reportedly OPCW and/or U.N. scientists were present,” Bennis continued. “But the reports come only from the official Turkish medical/forensic authorities. Again, without a full and thorough independent investigation, all of the unknowns remain just that.”

What’s not unknown, however, is three days after the attack, on April 7, Trump ordered a cruise missile attack on a Syrian military airfield.

“This was an act of war,” Bennis said. “Even if we already knew, even if there was a credible source finding the Syrian government was responsible, that would not give the White House and the Pentagon the right to unilaterally attack Syria without U.N. authorization, when the U.S. was not attacked, without consultations with or authorization from Congress, in violation of the War Powers Act.”

On April 11, under mounting criticism, the White House issued a four-page report squarely blaming the Syrian regime for the gas attack, saying it was delivered by a plane from the airport that was hit by U.S. missiles and accusing Russia of lying by claiming that the poison gas was in the hands of guerrilla armies fighting the regime.

“The United States is confident that the Syrian regime conducted a chemical weapons attack, using the nerve agent sarin, against its own people in the town of Khan Shaykhun in southern Idlib Province on April 4, 2017,” the report began. “Our information indicates that the chemical agent was delivered by regime Su-22 fixed-wing aircraft… Our information indicates personnel historically associated with Syria’s chemical weapons program were at Shayrat Airfield in late March making preparations for an upcoming attack in Northern Syria, and they were present at the airfield on the day of the attack.”

The report continued, “We have confidence in our assessment because we have signals intelligence and geospatial intelligence, laboratory analysis of physiological samples collected from multiple victims, as well as a significant body of credible open source reporting, that tells a clear and consistent story.”

But these assertions are not clear, consistent or convincing, said Theodore Postol, a professor of Science, Technology, and International Security at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Postol, who has received numerous awards for his work on missile systems and has worked for the Office of the Chief of Naval Operations, looked at the same information sources cited by the White House and concluded in a 14-page analysis that, first of all, whatever happened in Khan Shaykhun was not the result of an air attack.

“It’s important to be clear about what I’m saying,” he told AlterNet. “I’m saying that a so-called White House intelligence report issued on April 11 is totally inconsistent with the claims it’s making. I’m not so much saying that I know what happened, because actually I don’t. What I do know is that this report was, to be blunt, fabricated without the intelligence methodologies that it claims to have used. Because I have data that I have been poring over… for example, there’s video data of this crater that they allege was the source of an air attack, an air munitions. It was not an air munition. You could see that very easily.”

“So the issue is that the White House issued a false intelligence report and the reasons [why] I don’t know,” Postol said. “But one possibility is they are trying to cover up their tracks because they didn’t know what was going on and they attacked a foreign power. And that is not good.”

Bennis agreed that the White House intelligence report doesn’t prove what it claims.

“The four-page white paper released by the White House, purporting to prove that the Syrian government was responsible for the chemical weapons attack, does not provide any of the actual evidence they claim to rely on,” she said, commenting by email. “It makes a set of assertions, describes the kind of information they have, and essentially then says ‘trust us.’ It appears to be a White House (that is, political) document, not the official position of intelligence agencies themselves. It does not provide anything close to proof, or even evidence, of the who, the what or the how of the chemical attack.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/trumps-missile-attack-on-syria-was-justified-with-fake-intelligence-experts/
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Post by veya_victaous Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:55 am

WMDs all over again.....

It seems the real terrorists are the Corpocracy of the USA
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Post by Guest Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:16 am

What an idiot this Regressive is and is clearly defending Assad.
She does this based off opinions and not facts.

And who is Phyllis Bennis that has no expert position on weapons and attacks?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllis_Bennis

She is part of the BDS, which says it all

I would take this claim with a pinch pf salt

The evidence is overwhelming that Assad used a chemical attack and has done so before.

What do you expect from somebody who comes from the Hate American school of Chomsky.

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Post by Guest Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:43 am

Oh and as to the claims from the other so called expert.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Postol

He claimed the 2013 attack also was not by Assad, even though this was proven to be


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghouta_chemical_attack#UN_Ghouta_Area_report

What you then have to ask is the Motive for both here to make their unfounded claims?

Clearly to defend a dictator, one already defends Iran, which says it all.

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Post by Original Quill Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:29 pm

No report necessary. Some of us saw the next morning that the attack was a fraud. WH gave advance warning to Russia? Do you doubt that Russia informed Syria? When the missiles came down, it was away from the runways, in a cornfield next door. Only outdated aircraft hit? Next morning Syrian aircraft shown taking off that runway.

It was typical Trump...all SHOW, complete with firecrackers and $100-million of middle-class taxpayer's money wasted.


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Post by Victorismyhero Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:18 pm

well, you know quill...them missiles DO have a "best before date", so they needed using up....
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Post by Original Quill Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:40 pm

Lord Foul wrote:well, you know quill...them missiles DO have a "best before date", so they needed using up....

If he bothered singling the old ones out. These billionaires can't be bothered if it takes time or thinking. Rolling Eyes

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