IRA - Martin McGuiness dies

veya_victaous wrote:Why do you think what people think is my opinion?
I don't really give too shits what 2 equally wrong groups of hill shepherd do to each other at the arse end of the world.
As long as the dumb geranium don't try and export their hate here why should i care?


LOL England Never gave anyone freedom with out a fight there were rebellions in Australia before we were granted self rule. that is just reality. England had promised the Irish (all of it) self rule before world war 1 but postponed due to the war and then reneged due to the 'Easter rising' of 1914.... If England didn't renege on the promise none of the later would have happened. since there would have been no need for violence If the English had given the Irish self rule in the few years after Australia was granted it (1901).

Plus pretty fucked up for the Irish a peoples, recognized since the roman era as a distinct peoples and was not allowed to rule it's self even though the bastard convict nation not even 150 years old was granted the right (even if the English treated it like a privilege)

veya_victaous wrote:Why do you think what people think is my opinion?
I don't really give too shits what 2 equally wrong groups of hill shepherd do to each other at the arse end of the world.
As long as the dumb geranium don't try and export their hate here why should i care?


LOL England Never gave anyone freedom with out a fight there were rebellions in Australia before we were granted self rule. that is just reality. England had promised the Irish (all of it) self rule before world war 1 but postponed due to the war and then reneged due to the 'Easter rising' of 1914.... If England didn't renege on the promise none of the later would have happened. since there would have been no need for violence If the English had given the Irish self rule in the few years after Australia was granted it (1901).

Plus pretty fucked up for the Irish a peoples, recognized since the roman era as a distinct peoples and was not allowed to rule it's self even though the bastard convict nation not even 150 years old was granted the right (even if the English treated it like a privilege)

Thorin wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:Why do you think what people think is my opinion?
I don't really give too shits what 2 equally wrong groups of hill shepherd do to each other at the arse end of the world.
As long as the dumb geranium don't try and export their hate here why should i care?


LOL England Never gave anyone freedom with out a fight there were rebellions in Australia before we were granted self rule. that is just reality. England had promised the Irish (all of it) self rule before world war 1 but postponed due to the war and then reneged due to the 'Easter rising' of 1914.... If England didn't renege on the promise none of the later would have happened. since there would have been no need for violence If the English had given the Irish self rule in the few years after Australia was granted it (1901).

Plus pretty fucked up for the Irish a peoples, recognized since the roman era as a distinct peoples and was not allowed to rule it's self even though the bastard convict nation not even 150 years old was granted the right (even if the English treated it like a privilege)

So you dont care and just am spouting hate and demeaning people classing them as uncivilized.

Wow, you just made yourself as culpable to being what you class as a hill shepherd.

So again, how can you justify violence, when there is always other avenues and options as there is with Northern Ireland?

The Irish do have self rule and the Northern Irish at present wish to remain British.

Until, that changes people have to respect that or move.

You cannot force change thrugh violence

veya_victaous wrote:

Thorin wrote:


So you dont care and just am spouting hate and demeaning people classing them as uncivilized.

Wow, you just made yourself as culpable to being what you class as a hill shepherd.

So again, how can you justify violence, when there is always other avenues and options as there is with Northern Ireland?

The Irish do have self rule and the Northern Irish at present wish to remain British.

Until, that changes people have to respect that or move.

You cannot force change thrugh violence

You are just speaking words that although sound good on paper are decisively untrue in the history of peoples oppressed by the British
Change was only achieved through Violence for the USA and Ireland
And there was violence for Australia to achieve it too (given it was the threat of greater violence that gave us freedom)

AND No! 'self rule' was being allowed our own parliaments but remaining under the Commonwealth, This was Denied the Irish until they Used Violence to obtain freedom.
http://cdaworldhistory.wikidot.com/self-rule-for-british-colonies

Raggamuffin wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:Why do you think what people think is my opinion?
I don't really give too shits what 2 equally wrong groups of hill shepherd do to each other at the arse end of the world.
As long as the dumb geranium don't try and export their hate here why should i care?


LOL England Never gave anyone freedom with out a fight there were rebellions in Australia before we were granted self rule. that is just reality. England had promised the Irish (all of it) self rule before world war 1 but postponed due to the war and then reneged due to the 'Easter rising' of 1914.... If England didn't renege on the promise none of the later would have happened. since there would have been no need for violence If the English had given the Irish self rule in the few years after Australia was granted it (1901).

Plus pretty fucked up for the Irish a peoples, recognized since the roman era as a distinct peoples and was not allowed to rule it's self even though the bastard convict nation not even 150 years old was granted the right (even if the English treated it like a privilege)

Then why are you posting about it? People in the UK didn't have a choice because the IRA exported their hate, violence, and murderous ways to the mainland, so of course Brits are going to discuss it. If you don't care either way, you shouldn't be in this thread.

veya_victaous wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Then why are you posting about it? People in the UK didn't have a choice because the IRA exported their hate, violence, and murderous ways to the mainland, so of course Brits are going to discuss it. If you don't care either way, you shouldn't be in this thread.

Cause FACTS don't give a shit about your feeling and Bullshit propaganda where England has no fault to bare.

I just pointed out how most of the world feels about the situation (that England is partly to blame for reneging on early agreements to stop the oppression of Ireland)  And you 2 start with your bullshit propaganda that pretends England is never at fault
And you have even gone as far as to Suggest People should be grateful!!!! which shows how fucked up the level of propaganda is in England regarding world history

veya_victaous wrote:@thorin
Well women voting was because your colonies where doing it so it became and embarrassment.

And do you not think those early fighters for suffrage didn't not suffer violence?  

veya_victaous wrote:No Cause Like the line I added
IT WAS needed many times
When the English though they owned another.

veya_victaous wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Then why are you posting about it? People in the UK didn't have a choice because the IRA exported their hate, violence, and murderous ways to the mainland, so of course Brits are going to discuss it. If you don't care either way, you shouldn't be in this thread.

Cause FACTS don't give a shit about your feeling and Bullshit propaganda where England has no fault to bare.

I just pointed out how most of the world feels about the situation (that England is partly to blame for reneging on early agreements to stop the oppression of Ireland)  And you 2 start with your bullshit propaganda that pretends England is never at fault
And you have even gone as far as to Suggest People should be grateful!!!! which shows how fucked up the level of propaganda is in England regarding world history