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Post by ALLAKAKA Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:49 am

Deputy mayor quizzed by police over 'homophobic' insult at fellow councillor.Homophobic Nazi Captur26

A deputy mayor is being investigated by police over claims he screamed homophobic abuse at a fellow councillor in the street.

Farooq Ahmed, who is in charge of finance and deputy mayor at Rochdale council – is due to be questioned by officers.

Witnesses described seeing him rowing with fellow Labour councillor Neil Emmott on Cheetham Street in Rochdale on Thursday afternoon.

During the bust-up – seen by a number of passers by – Coun Ahmed is alleged to have hurled a homophobic insult at his colleague.

He was not arrested but was due to be questioned by police.

It is thought at least one witness has given a statement about the fracas.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/rochdale-deputy-mayor-farooq-ahmed-6595376

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Post by Ben Reilly Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:10 pm

Sounds like a real asshole; then again, it also sounds like the guy has been provoking him with offensive slurs against the Asian community. Tell me, are British who can disagree without resorting to schoolyard name-calling the exception, rather than the rule? Because my views of the U.K. have just plummeted in the past few months.
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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:11 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:Sounds like a real asshole; then again, it also sounds like the guy has been provoking him with offensive slurs against the Asian community. Tell me, are British who can disagree without resorting to schoolyard name-calling the exception, rather than the rule? Because my views of the U.K. have just plummeted in the past few months.

So has my opinion of this board.

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Post by nicko Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:12 pm

so fcuk off then!!
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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:16 pm

nicko wrote:so fcuk off then!!

That should be you lot, this place was fine for a year until you far right dregs turned up.

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Post by ALLAKAKA Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:19 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:Sounds like a real asshole; then again, it also sounds like the guy has been provoking him with offensive slurs against the Asian community. Tell me, are British who can disagree without resorting to schoolyard name-calling the exception, rather than the rule? Because my views of the U.K. have just plummeted in the past few months.


Provoking him with Slurs ? get with the ASIAN GROOMING GANGS which have blighted the UK, these where the police stats on grooming gangs in 5 Cities , 85 % PAKISTANI , 11% ASIAN and 4% White.

Any fucking Slur is self imposed by their actions.

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Post by ALLAKAKA Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:21 pm

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nicko wrote:so fcuk off then!!

That should be you lot, this place was fine for a year until you far right dregs turned up.


Why don't you do what other woman who are victims of DOMESTIC VIOLENCE do , report it and seek help , do not take you bitterness out on others.

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:25 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:Because my views of the U.K. have just plummeted in the past few months.

I don't see why you'd let a small selection of randomers on the Internet colour your opinion on a nation with a population of millions.

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Post by nicko Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:30 pm

I wanted to show the posters on here what a rabid fanatical homosexual you are and the way you reply to people if they say any thing you don't agree with. I think i'v proved that beyond doubt.funny that the lw don't say anything about you.
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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:34 pm

ALLAKAKA wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:Sounds like a real asshole; then again, it also sounds like the guy has been provoking him with offensive slurs against the Asian community. Tell me, are British who can disagree without resorting to schoolyard name-calling the exception, rather than the rule? Because my views of the U.K. have just plummeted in the past few months.


Provoking him with Slurs ? get with the ASIAN GROOMING GANGS which have blighted the UK, these where the police stats on grooming gangs in 5 Cities ,     85 % PAKISTANI , 11% ASIAN and 4% White.

Any fucking Slur is self imposed by their actions.


Really, so you think it is acceptable to use slurs on an ethnic group based on the stats in 5 cities which represents 3% of child sex offences, being as there is around 30,000 convicted child offenders on the sex register in the UK? With white representing 95%.
So again you use the excuse to abuse people based on a fallacy, that is your justification for being racist?

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Post by ALLAKAKA Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:42 pm

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Provoking him with Slurs ? get with the ASIAN GROOMING GANGS which have blighted the UK, these where the police stats on grooming gangs in 5 Cities ,     85 % PAKISTANI , 11% ASIAN and 4% White.

Any fucking Slur is self imposed by their actions.


Really, so you think it is acceptable to use slurs on an ethnic group based on the stats in 5 cities which represents 3% of child sex offences, being as there is around 30,000 convicted child offenders on the sex register in the UK? With white representing 95%.
So again you use the excuse to abuse people based on a fallacy, that is your justification for being racist?




So you are denying that THE POLICE , THE NSPCC , MP's and even THE RAMADAM FOUNDATION all admitted there was a problem white the Grooming of young white being groomed and raped by ASIAN MEN.

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:45 pm

PhilDidge wrote:
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Provoking him with Slurs ? get with the ASIAN GROOMING GANGS which have blighted the UK, these where the police stats on grooming gangs in 5 Cities ,     85 % PAKISTANI , 11% ASIAN and 4% White.

Any fucking Slur is self imposed by their actions.


Really, so you think it is acceptable to use slurs on an ethnic group based on the stats in 5 cities which represents 3% of child sex offences, being as there is around 30,000 convicted child offenders on the sex register in the UK? With white representing 95%.
So again you use the excuse to abuse people based on a fallacy, that is your justification for being racist?

Might those figures be different for 2010/11/12 didge?

What about homicide figures? For 2009, not 1909.

People talk about what is going on around them, not what the census said.

Statistics lie, up-to-the-minute news is difficult to lie about.

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:45 pm

ALLAKAKA wrote:
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Really, so you think it is acceptable to use slurs on an ethnic group based on the stats in 5 cities which represents 3% of child sex offences, being as there is around 30,000 convicted child offenders on the sex register in the UK? With white representing 95%.
So again you use the excuse to abuse people based on a fallacy, that is your justification for being racist?




So you are denying that THE POLICE , THE NSPCC , MP's and even THE RAMADAM FOUNDATION all admitted there was a problem white the Grooming of young  white being groomed and raped by ASIAN MEN.



Where did I say that?
Never did or deny anything, you seem to diverge away from your justification for being offensive and racist to ethnic groups.
There is a problem with child offending grooming gangs being one of those problems, of which there are Asians involved, does that justify your stigma of Asian people?

No

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Post by ALLAKAKA Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:14 pm

PhilDidge wrote:
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So you are denying that THE POLICE , THE NSPCC , MP's and even THE RAMADAM FOUNDATION all admitted there was a problem white the Grooming of young  white being groomed and raped by ASIAN MEN.



Where did I say that?
Never did or deny anything, you seem to diverge away from your justification for being offensive and racist to ethnic groups.
There is a problem with child offending grooming gangs being one of those problems, of which there are Asians involved, does that justify your stigma of Asian people?

No



Your the one defending the ASIAN's homophobic outburst , with his counter claim that the other MP  had slurred Asians for being involved in bringing ASIAN GROOMING GANGS to justice.

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:16 pm

ALLAKAKA wrote:
PhilDidge wrote:



Where did I say that?
Never did or deny anything, you seem to diverge away from your justification for being offensive and racist to ethnic groups.
There is a problem with child offending grooming gangs being one of those problems, of which there are Asians involved, does that justify your stigma of Asian people?

No



Your the one defending the ASIAN's homophobic outburst , with his counter claim that the other MP  had slurred Asians for being involved in bring ASIAN GROO)MING GANGS to justice.


Really since when did I say anything in regards to the OP?
never did , another poor accusation and lie.
Any racist o homophobic slurs are wrong no matter who states them

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Post by ALLAKAKA Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:22 pm





Read it , BEN_REILLY before you make rash judgements and remember this is just ONE of the cases that have come to court after a over a DECADE of pressure.


Detectives who brought down a child sex grooming ring are poised to make more arrests - as the hunt continues for more than 40 other suspected members of the gang.

Nine Asian men were yesterday jailed for a total of 77 years for raping and abusing up to 47 girls - some as young as 13 - after plying them with alcohol and luring them to takeaways.

Now police have identified four more suspects alleged to have abused the young witness whose evidence helped secure convictions at the end of the 11-week trial.


But many more remain at large as officers try to establish the real identities of men referred to in court only by nicknames such as Goofy, Ray, Juicy, Arfan, Ali, Manni, Mamma, Pino and Arfan.


The suspected abusers have proved difficult to track down and it is feared some of them have already fled the country.


But police in Greater Manchester have managed to identify four men accused of sexually abusing the main witness at a 'sex party' in 2008.


Detectives believe at least one may be in Pakistan. They expect to make arrests in the next few days but are not planning to extend the investigation abroad.


The trial heard that the men - who are all from Pakistan, apart from one who is from Afghanistan - groomed and 'shared' the young white girls because they were vulnerable.


Assistant Chief Constable Steve Heywood, of Greater Manchester Police said: 'It is not a racial issue. This is about adults preying on vulnerable young children. It just happens that in this particular area and time the demographics were that these were Asian men.'

However, the gang's ringleader yesterday branded the judge a 'racist b******' after he and eight other men were jailed.


The extraordinary outburst came after Judge Gerald Clinton accused the gang of targeting white girls because they were not part of their ‘community or religion’.


Yesterday senior politicians clashed over the case – with one former Labour MP claiming police and social workers ignored complaints because they were ‘petrified of being called racist’.

With experts on paedophilia insisting street grooming by Muslim men was a real problem, the judge made it clear he believed religion was a factor.

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:24 pm

And your point?

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Post by Ben Reilly Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:25 pm

Well, Phil, you do realize that there are only nine Asian men in the entirety of the U.K., don't you? You should know your eight buddies, right?

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:31 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:Well, Phil, you do realize that there are only nine Asian men in the entirety of the U.K., don't you? You should know your eight buddies, right?

 :<:i}: :<:i}: :<:i}: :<:i}: :<:i}: 



It really does beggar belief at times Ben, I am used to this though from some here as they always use association fallacies in their arguments as an excuse to be prejudices, quite sad really

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Post by ALLAKAKA Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:34 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:Well, Phil, you do realize that there are only nine Asian men in the entirety of the U.K., don't you? You should know your eight buddies, right?

 :<:i}: :<:i}: :<:i}: :<:i}: :<:i}: 


What a pathetic excuse for a so called Human being you are.


plus another 4 being question and 40 others being sort out of one case in one small area , Do I have to post the other cases , ROTHERHAM, OLDHAM , LEICESTER , BLACKBURN , OXFORD, TELFORD and a few more.

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:37 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:Well, Phil, you do realize that there are only nine Asian men in the entirety of the U.K., don't you? You should know your eight buddies, right?

 :<:i}: :<:i}: :<:i}: :<:i}: :<:i}: 

silly - is that the only comment you can give

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:38 pm

ALLAKAKA wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:Well, Phil, you do realize that there are only nine Asian men in the entirety of the U.K., don't you? You should know your eight buddies, right?

 :<:i}: :<:i}: :<:i}: :<:i}: :<:i}: 


What a pathetic excuse for a so called Human being you are.


   plus another 4 being question and 40 others being sort out of one case in one small area ,  Do I have to post the other cases , ROTHERHAM, OLDHAM , LEICESTER , BLACKBURN , OXFORD, TELFORD and a few more.



What about all the other 30,000 Paedo's do they not count unless they are asian then?

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:39 pm

How about this one allakaka?



Gerard O'Brien, 54, jailed for abusing girls in Glasgow
A man who sexually abused two young girls at properties in Glasgow has been jailed for three-and-a-half years.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-25916387

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:40 pm

nicko wrote:I wanted to show the posters on here what a rabid fanatical homosexual you are and the way you reply to people if they say any thing you don't agree with. I think i'v proved that beyond doubt.funny that the lw  don't say anything about you.


Nicko, with all respect I understand Phil does dish it out, but he is often targeted and called names with intent to offend him, not to mention Phil's partner being mocked and willed on to die .

I'm all for joking and having a harmless goof around, even with mild insults, but the treatment Phil sometimes gets is OTT, what I am seeing at the moment is Phil defending himself the way he knows best.



The 'rabid homosexual' comment is no doing much to help Nicko, but I can't tell you what to post, I'm only beginning to know you  and you've been ok with me, but one or two others I do know, who hounded Phil from the past and are doing so again,

Like I said Nicko, returning mild insults is one thing, but when other (s) have mocked Phil's partner saying he was dead etc when he was not , is just totally out of order.

That's often why Phil acts the way he does, it's not always right, but I understand why he does it.


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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:40 pm

Or this one:


Paedophile Gavin Benit jailed for hotel rape of girl, 15
Homophobic Nazi _72508246_gavinbenitThe prosecution said Gavin Benit 'likes to have sex with under-age girls'
A paedophile who was jailed for having sex with a 13-year-old girl has been jailed again for raping a girl of 15 in a hotel in Conwy county.




http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-25884591

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:41 pm

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nicko wrote:so fcuk off then!!

That should be you lot, this place was fine for a year until you far right dregs turned up.
What you mean is that it was quiet, with all the posters (except Andy) agreeing with each other. Same as Speakfree, and look what happened to that. It's lively now, with opposing views being voiced, which is what a good forum should be.

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:42 pm

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nicko wrote:I wanted to show the posters on here what a rabid fanatical homosexual you are and the way you reply to people if they say any thing you don't agree with. I think i'v proved that beyond doubt.funny that the lw  don't say anything about you.


Nicko, with all respect I understand Phil does dish it out, but he is often targeted and called names with intent to offend him, not to mention Phil's partner being mocked and willed on to die .

I'm all for joking and having a harmless goof around, even with mild insults, but the treatment Phil sometimes gets is OTT, what I am seeing at the is Phil defending himself the way he knows best.



The 'rabid homosexual' comment is no doing much to help Nicko, but I can't tell you what to post, I'm only beginning to know you  and you've been ok with me, but one or two others I do know, who hounded Phil from the past and are doing so again,

Like I said Nicko, returning mild insults is one thing, but when other (s) have mocked Phil's partner saying he was dead etc when he was not , is just totally out of order.

That's often why Phil acts the way he does, it's not always right, but I understand why he does it.




Joy some of the things catman says are low beyond belief like saying he hoped Nicko's pain hurt today being the fact he has cancer, that is disgusting and is beyond giving it back, he needs to grow up!

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:45 pm

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Nicko, with all respect I understand Phil does dish it out, but he is often targeted and called names with intent to offend him, not to mention Phil's partner being mocked and willed on to die .

I'm all for joking and having a harmless goof around, even with mild insults, but the treatment Phil sometimes gets is OTT, what I am seeing at the is Phil defending himself the way he knows best.



The 'rabid homosexual' comment is no doing much to help Nicko, but I can't tell you what to post, I'm only beginning to know you  and you've been ok with me, but one or two others I do know, who hounded Phil from the past and are doing so again,

Like I said Nicko, returning mild insults is one thing, but when other (s) have mocked Phil's partner saying he was dead etc when he was not , is just totally out of order.

That's often why Phil acts the way he does, it's not always right, but I understand why he does it.




Joy some of the things catman says are low beyond belief like saying he hoped Nicko's pain hurt today being the fact he has cancer, that is disgusting and is beyond giving it back, he needs to grow up!

Try reading JD's post again, you seem to be suffering from RW tunnel vision  Rolling Eyes 

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Post by Ben Reilly Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:45 pm

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nicko wrote:so fcuk off then!!

That should be you lot, this place was fine for a year until you far right dregs turned up.
What you mean is that it was quiet, with all the posters (except Andy) agreeing with each other.  Same as Speakfree, and look what happened to that.  It's lively now, with opposing views being voiced, which is what a good forum should be.

Unfortunately, more and more often it's just people trading insults. And when it's not that, it's right-wingers who seem almost incapable of using logic in their arguments and relying over-heavily on insults, stereotypes, emotion appeals (particularly fearmongering), strawmen and other logical fallacies.
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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:47 pm

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Joy some of the things catman says are low beyond belief like saying he hoped Nicko's pain hurt today being the fact he has cancer, that is disgusting and is beyond giving it back, he needs to grow up!

Try reading JD's post again, you seem to be suffering from RW tunnel vision  Rolling Eyes 



No you need to read again what you did and say to Nicko was disgusting and you still have not the decency to apologise

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:51 pm

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Try reading JD's post again, you seem to be suffering from RW tunnel vision  Rolling Eyes 



No you need to read again what you did and say to Nicko was disgusting and you still have not the decency to apologise

Was in response to goading and abuse that he was directing to me on the Simon Bucks thread, the Nazi then went onto a completely unrelated thread, and threw in a another nasty comment which i responded to.
I have nothing to apologize for, and won't be making one, so i would suggest that you get over yourself.  Rolling Eyes 

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:53 pm

Well of Phil did say that about Nicko's cancer of course I will condemn that too...

If we must insult , we must do so without issues like that or involving a members partner or familly, as Scrat would say...very poor sport.

Why not just scream...'I've got more pubes left than you ' .

Or something similar?Smile

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:56 pm

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No you need to read again what you did and say to Nicko was disgusting and you still have not the decency to apologise

Was in response to goading and abuse that he was directing to me on the Simon Bucks thread, the Nazi then went onto a completely unrelated thread, and threw in a another nasty comment which i responded to.
I have nothing to apologize for, and won't be making one, so i would suggest that you get over yourself.  Rolling Eyes 



Jesus wept, that is not an excuse for what you said, what you said was not giving back but being down right nasty to a poster who you know little about, except some views on a forum. He is not a Nazi either and has served not only this nation but others, after years of giving to the nation to be told that you hope his cancer hurts.

Show some decency for the first time in your life, because you also then excuse all those who said crap about Doug, the logic you use excuses them also because if you have thrown abuse to them, they can then with your illogical view justify it.

Do you not see now why that is absurd, you are justifying the abuse to you on the grounds it is okay to when there has been goading or nasty comments.

So do you really back that illogical view after all?

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Post by ALLAKAKA Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:57 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
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What you mean is that it was quiet, with all the posters (except Andy) agreeing with each other.  Same as Speakfree, and look what happened to that.  It's lively now, with opposing views being voiced, which is what a good forum should be.

Unfortunately, more and more often it's just people trading insults. And when it's not that, it's right-wingers who seem almost incapable of using logic in their arguments and relying over-heavily on insults, stereotypes, emotion appeals (particularly fearmongering), strawmen and other logical fallacies.



You Bias is showing more than the Knickers of a 2 Dollar whore.; Now YOU show me where is retaliated at the INSTANT abuse Catman welcomed me with.

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Post by Eilzel Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:02 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:Sounds like a real asshole; then again, it also sounds like the guy has been provoking him with offensive slurs against the Asian community. Tell me, are British who can disagree without resorting to schoolyard name-calling the exception, rather than the rule? Because my views of the U.K. have just plummeted in the past few months.

Imagine clicking on an American forum of Fox fanatical Tea Partiers with a mix of 'god hates fags' brand bigots; now it would be wrong to assume the expected opinions and comments therein where representative of America at large- well sorry to tell you this but most of the deluge of posters that followed catman here are the UK's version of the nuttiest Tea Partiers- lucky you eh  Smile 
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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:04 pm

PhilDidge wrote:
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Was in response to goading and abuse that he was directing to me on the Simon Bucks thread, the Nazi then went onto a completely unrelated thread, and threw in a another nasty comment which i responded to.
I have nothing to apologize for, and won't be making one, so i would suggest that you get over yourself.  Rolling Eyes 



Jesus wept, that is not an excuse for what you said, what you said was not giving back but being down right nasty to a poster who you know little about, except some views on a forum. He is not a Nazi either and has served not only this nation but others, after years of giving to the nation to be told that you hope his cancer hurts.

Show some decency for the first time in your life, because you also then excuse all those who said crap about Doug, the logic you use excuses them also because if you have thrown abuse to them, they can then with your illogical view justify it.

Do you not see now why that is absurd, you are justifying the abuse to you on the grounds it is okay to when there has been goading or nasty comments.

So do you really back that illogical view after all?


If you expect me to sit back and accept all of the abuse, which i might add is being directed at me by a few hard core RW Nazis, then you are very much mistaken.
Again....This really isn't any of your business and you should take your own medicine and move on.  Rolling Eyes 

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PhilDidge wrote:



Jesus wept, that is not an excuse for what you said, what you said was not giving back but being down right nasty to a poster who you know little about, except some views on a forum. He is not a Nazi either and has served not only this nation but others, after years of giving to the nation to be told that you hope his cancer hurts.

Show some decency for the first time in your life, because you also then excuse all those who said crap about Doug, the logic you use excuses them also because if you have thrown abuse to them, they can then with your illogical view justify it.

Do you not see now why that is absurd, you are justifying the abuse to you on the grounds it is okay to when there has been goading or nasty comments.

So do you really back that illogical view after all?


If you expect me to sit back and accept all of the abuse, which i might add is being directed at me by a few hard core RW Nazis, then you are very much mistaken.
Again....This really isn't any of your business and you should take your own medicine and move on.  Rolling Eyes 


Again you justify their abuse with your own illogical view

I am making it my business to have some normality here which clearly you seem to think throwing abuse is respecting the forum.

It isn't!

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Post by ALLAKAKA Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:05 pm

PhilDidge wrote:How about this one allakaka?



Gerard O'Brien, 54, jailed for abusing girls in Glasgow
A man who sexually abused two young girls at properties in Glasgow has been jailed for three-and-a-half years.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-25916387


Another one of your pathetic attempts to deflect from the scale of Muslim grooming gangs. Two out of how many how many in Scotland.

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:08 pm

PhilDidge wrote:
Catman wrote:


If you expect me to sit back and accept all of the abuse, which i might add is being directed at me by a few hard core RW Nazis, then you are very much mistaken.
Again....This really isn't any of your business and you should take your own medicine and move on.  Rolling Eyes 


Again you justify their abuse with your own illogical view

I am making it my business to have some normality here which clearly you seem to think throwing abuse is respecting the forum.

It isn't!

I sometimes respond to the abuse that is thrown at me, i'm entitled to do that.
Again...Take a dose of your own medicine and move on.  Rolling Eyes 

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Post by Ben Reilly Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:08 pm

So, Allakaka, how long have you embraced collectivist views?
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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:09 pm

Catman wrote:
PhilDidge wrote:



Jesus wept, that is not an excuse for what you said, what you said was not giving back but being down right nasty to a poster who you know little about, except some views on a forum. He is not a Nazi either and has served not only this nation but others, after years of giving to the nation to be told that you hope his cancer hurts.

Show some decency for the first time in your life, because you also then excuse all those who said crap about Doug, the logic you use excuses them also because if you have thrown abuse to them, they can then with your illogical view justify it.

Do you not see now why that is absurd, you are justifying the abuse to you on the grounds it is okay to when there has been goading or nasty comments.

So do you really back that illogical view after all?


If you expect me to sit back and accept all of the abuse, which i might add is being directed at me by a few hard core RW Nazis, then you are very much mistaken.
Again....This really isn't any of your business and you should take your own medicine and move on.  Rolling Eyes 

I think it's cute how you think you're completely innocent.

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:09 pm

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Tess. wrote:
What you mean is that it was quiet, with all the posters (except Andy) agreeing with each other.  Same as Speakfree, and look what happened to that.  It's lively now, with opposing views being voiced, which is what a good forum should be.

Unfortunately, more and more often it's just people trading insults. And when it's not that, it's right-wingers who seem almost incapable of using logic in their arguments and relying over-heavily on insults, stereotypes, emotion appeals (particularly fearmongering), strawmen and other logical fallacies.
You serious? I get called a nazi for no reason as soon as I join here, and as for relying over-heavily on insults, stereotypes etc, you can get them from all of Beekeeper's replies to me! As for Catman - well, no need for comment.

Biased or what!

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:09 pm

Catman wrote:
PhilDidge wrote:


Again you justify their abuse with your own illogical view

I am making it my business to have some normality here which clearly you seem to think throwing abuse is respecting the forum.

It isn't!

I sometimes respond to the abuse that is thrown at me, i'm entitled to do that.
Again...Take a dose of your own medicine and move on.  Rolling Eyes 


No abuse was thrown at you from me, so now you are excusing abuse thrown without any of the poor illogical reasons you supplied.

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:10 pm

Queen Of Hearts wrote:
Catman wrote:


If you expect me to sit back and accept all of the abuse, which i might add is being directed at me by a few hard core RW Nazis, then you are very much mistaken.
Again....This really isn't any of your business and you should take your own medicine and move on.  Rolling Eyes 

I think it's cute how you think you're completely innocent.

I'm entitled to respond to abuse that is thrown at me, as i see fit.
 Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes 

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:12 pm

PhilDidge wrote:
Catman wrote:

I sometimes respond to the abuse that is thrown at me, i'm entitled to do that.
Again...Take a dose of your own medicine and move on.  Rolling Eyes 


No abuse was thrown at you from me, so now you are excusing abuse thrown without any of the poor illogical reasons you supplied.

Grow up and move on.  Rolling Eyes 

....This is getting boring now.  Rolling Eyes 

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:13 pm

Catman wrote:
Queen Of Hearts wrote:

I think it's cute how you think you're completely innocent.

I'm entitled to respond to abuse that is thrown at me, as i see fit.
 Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes 



Yet I have thrown no abuse at you, so you are thus now also abusing people for no reason

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Post by ALLAKAKA Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:13 pm

Catman wrote:
Queen Of Hearts wrote:

I think it's cute how you think you're completely innocent.

I'm entitled to respond to abuse that is thrown at me, as i see fit.
 Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes 



But you wish to deny others that right.

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:14 pm

Anyway I have had enough poor excuses for one day.

Later

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Post by ALLAKAKA Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:15 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:So, Allakaka, how long have you embraced collectivist views?



How long have you been using a White Stick ?

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Post by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:19 pm

ALLAKAKA wrote:
Catman wrote:

I'm entitled to respond to abuse that is thrown at me, as i see fit.
 Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes 



But you wish to deny others that right.

If you lot throw abuse at me, then expect to get some of it back, i'm not going to be your fucking punch bag OK.

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