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Drawing the Line Against ‘Footloose’ Fatwas in the U.K.
by Guest Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:16 pm
LONDON—A Muslim girl wearing a headscarf was filmed dancing in the streets of Birmingham, U.K.—twerking, in fact—and the smartphone video soon went viral, viewed over a million times. Ironically, it was popularized in no small part by outraged Muslim men.
The fundamentalist Muslim backlash directed at this anonymous 17-year-old girl’s innocuous behavior was instant, personal, and severe. Amid threats in comment threads such as, “Fu**ing sl*t someone give me her address I will kill her,” and “Stupid b**ch needs to be killed,” the young girl issued a tearful, pitiful public apology that was broadcast by a pair of fundamentalist roving-fatwa YouTubers as a “repentance” to placate the frothing Islamist mob.
Two days later the world celebrated International Women’s Day. But amid a plethora of “feminist” pronouncements, including denunciations of transgender women, Emma Watson’s breasts, and even “Zionism,” not one major feminist organization or mainstream media outlet touched on what had just transpired.
A British Muslim girl was publicly slut-shamed, witch-hunted, and threatened until she totally submitted to the diktats of fundamentalist British-Muslim men, and the incident went barely noticed by our British left. This is despite the fact the brazen persecution was carried out unashamedly and unapologetically for all to witness by a pair of social media cretins.
The incident centered around the page of a quasi-literate fundamentalist British Muslim street preacher named Ali Da’wah (which somewhat unoriginally means: Ali Preaching) and his Penfold-like sidekick, Musa.
Unlike certain intersectional feminists who seem to have forgotten what it is that they are meant to be fighting for, Ali Da’wah makes no secret of his disdain for women: “I believe Muslim woman [sic] don’t need feminism… What does feminism offer that Islam doesn’t? What if feminism opposed Islam which one will you follow?” just after posting a meme showing a woman who looks frustrated and angry that reads: “When you can’t open a jar after thirty minutes and realize you’re not a strong independent woman who doesn’t need a man.” Such views acted as a backdrop on Ali’s page to what happened next.
Upon seeing the video in question, by their own admission Ali and Musa reacted angrily and moved publicly to “correct” the girl. They posted an image of her dancing, and separately recorded a rant about why such behavior is totally unacceptable for Muslims. Many other Muslims on their page soon pointed out how this only helped the “offending” video to go viral. Death threats against the petrified teenager soon followed.
Undeterred, the pair got in touch with the family of the 17-year-old girl and decided to record and publish her “repentance,” to ward off the threats. Just before the terrified girl was put on, the pair of medievalists can be heard ruminating on how her dance was “really inappropriate” as Ali continued, “We was really upset to be honest, and I’m sure a lot of you guys was upset as well… a lot of us hate seeing certain things done by practicing-looking individuals.”
Not to be outdone, Musa then added, “It was very, very hard to comprehend what someone could be going through to be doing something like that while wearing the hijab.”
In what can only be described as religious mania, he then mentioned victims of suicide and rape while adding “which we can understand and advise about, but with this [dancing] we were even speechless.”
Probably ready to say anything for all this to just go away, the poor girl explained to the pair of numbskulls that she has suffered from depression since she was 13. Tragically, she then burst into tears.
At this point, Ali callously remarked: “By God, this is the work of Satan, the only reason I’m doing this is because people are going to watch the video and judge you based on that… so don’t cry, God is the most merciful… the fact that you’re crying is a sign of repentance and remorse, so don’t be upset… I’m just going to carry on so don’t worry… You said that you saw some brothers preaching and at that point you came back to your senses, right?
“I’m going to get you in contact with (if you want) some good sisters in Birmingham who can keep your company”—that is, make sure the girl stays penitent—“because this is the work of the devil and music is one of the tools of Satan.”
Just in case his message hadn’t gotten through, Ali ended his video with some final remarks to his young Muslim audience, telling them music is “like you’re on drugs… these filthy people in these songs, they don’t care about you and they’re causing harm, they talk about women like they’re whores…”
Now that they had extracted their “repentance” from her, and publicly aired her confession, the girl’s “sin” was deemed in need of hiding—for shame. In a textbook case of gaslighting, the pair went on to blame others for still sharing news of the girl that they themselves had also initially posted. Their followers were then encouraged to report anyone still posting on the issue as harassment and bullying.
To say that I stand disgusted is an understatement.
No doubt the petrified girl will stand by her apology, and just wants the incident to go away. I understand that. And I fully expect her to maintain her “repentance.” She will probably wish that I had not resurrected this issue by defending her right to dance as she likes, when she likes, and where she likes. But no. Before it all just goes away, we as liberals, as a society, and as her fellow human beings have a duty to at least acknowledge what has just happened: We just missed our first modern religious inquisition, initiated, conducted, and concluded solely through social media.
Our communities, Muslim or otherwise, must awaken to the predators of liberty that live among us. Similar to the now infamous “sharia patrols,” British-Muslim religious-policing must not be tolerated. It is no coincidence that this incident unfolded in the English city of Birmingham. A tenth of all Britain’s jihadist terrorists hail from just five wards in that city.
And for the sake of British Muslim female victims of “honor” killings, we must mark this moment, because the girl’s inquisitors appear utterly unable to comprehend why anyone would be so angered by their actions. They conclude their video inquisition by promising, “It’s gonna happen in the future, another video might come up, obviously we have to go about it the right way, but if it’s going viral, we have to touch upon it.”
So untouchable do they feel as Muslim fundamentalists in modern Britain that they vow to do it again. Welcome to the United Kingdom, 2017.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/03/13/drawing-the-line-against-footloose-fatwas-in-the-u-k.html
The fundamentalist Muslim backlash directed at this anonymous 17-year-old girl’s innocuous behavior was instant, personal, and severe. Amid threats in comment threads such as, “Fu**ing sl*t someone give me her address I will kill her,” and “Stupid b**ch needs to be killed,” the young girl issued a tearful, pitiful public apology that was broadcast by a pair of fundamentalist roving-fatwa YouTubers as a “repentance” to placate the frothing Islamist mob.
Two days later the world celebrated International Women’s Day. But amid a plethora of “feminist” pronouncements, including denunciations of transgender women, Emma Watson’s breasts, and even “Zionism,” not one major feminist organization or mainstream media outlet touched on what had just transpired.
A British Muslim girl was publicly slut-shamed, witch-hunted, and threatened until she totally submitted to the diktats of fundamentalist British-Muslim men, and the incident went barely noticed by our British left. This is despite the fact the brazen persecution was carried out unashamedly and unapologetically for all to witness by a pair of social media cretins.
The incident centered around the page of a quasi-literate fundamentalist British Muslim street preacher named Ali Da’wah (which somewhat unoriginally means: Ali Preaching) and his Penfold-like sidekick, Musa.
Unlike certain intersectional feminists who seem to have forgotten what it is that they are meant to be fighting for, Ali Da’wah makes no secret of his disdain for women: “I believe Muslim woman [sic] don’t need feminism… What does feminism offer that Islam doesn’t? What if feminism opposed Islam which one will you follow?” just after posting a meme showing a woman who looks frustrated and angry that reads: “When you can’t open a jar after thirty minutes and realize you’re not a strong independent woman who doesn’t need a man.” Such views acted as a backdrop on Ali’s page to what happened next.
Upon seeing the video in question, by their own admission Ali and Musa reacted angrily and moved publicly to “correct” the girl. They posted an image of her dancing, and separately recorded a rant about why such behavior is totally unacceptable for Muslims. Many other Muslims on their page soon pointed out how this only helped the “offending” video to go viral. Death threats against the petrified teenager soon followed.
Undeterred, the pair got in touch with the family of the 17-year-old girl and decided to record and publish her “repentance,” to ward off the threats. Just before the terrified girl was put on, the pair of medievalists can be heard ruminating on how her dance was “really inappropriate” as Ali continued, “We was really upset to be honest, and I’m sure a lot of you guys was upset as well… a lot of us hate seeing certain things done by practicing-looking individuals.”
Not to be outdone, Musa then added, “It was very, very hard to comprehend what someone could be going through to be doing something like that while wearing the hijab.”
In what can only be described as religious mania, he then mentioned victims of suicide and rape while adding “which we can understand and advise about, but with this [dancing] we were even speechless.”
Probably ready to say anything for all this to just go away, the poor girl explained to the pair of numbskulls that she has suffered from depression since she was 13. Tragically, she then burst into tears.
At this point, Ali callously remarked: “By God, this is the work of Satan, the only reason I’m doing this is because people are going to watch the video and judge you based on that… so don’t cry, God is the most merciful… the fact that you’re crying is a sign of repentance and remorse, so don’t be upset… I’m just going to carry on so don’t worry… You said that you saw some brothers preaching and at that point you came back to your senses, right?
“I’m going to get you in contact with (if you want) some good sisters in Birmingham who can keep your company”—that is, make sure the girl stays penitent—“because this is the work of the devil and music is one of the tools of Satan.”
Just in case his message hadn’t gotten through, Ali ended his video with some final remarks to his young Muslim audience, telling them music is “like you’re on drugs… these filthy people in these songs, they don’t care about you and they’re causing harm, they talk about women like they’re whores…”
Now that they had extracted their “repentance” from her, and publicly aired her confession, the girl’s “sin” was deemed in need of hiding—for shame. In a textbook case of gaslighting, the pair went on to blame others for still sharing news of the girl that they themselves had also initially posted. Their followers were then encouraged to report anyone still posting on the issue as harassment and bullying.
To say that I stand disgusted is an understatement.
No doubt the petrified girl will stand by her apology, and just wants the incident to go away. I understand that. And I fully expect her to maintain her “repentance.” She will probably wish that I had not resurrected this issue by defending her right to dance as she likes, when she likes, and where she likes. But no. Before it all just goes away, we as liberals, as a society, and as her fellow human beings have a duty to at least acknowledge what has just happened: We just missed our first modern religious inquisition, initiated, conducted, and concluded solely through social media.
Our communities, Muslim or otherwise, must awaken to the predators of liberty that live among us. Similar to the now infamous “sharia patrols,” British-Muslim religious-policing must not be tolerated. It is no coincidence that this incident unfolded in the English city of Birmingham. A tenth of all Britain’s jihadist terrorists hail from just five wards in that city.
And for the sake of British Muslim female victims of “honor” killings, we must mark this moment, because the girl’s inquisitors appear utterly unable to comprehend why anyone would be so angered by their actions. They conclude their video inquisition by promising, “It’s gonna happen in the future, another video might come up, obviously we have to go about it the right way, but if it’s going viral, we have to touch upon it.”
So untouchable do they feel as Muslim fundamentalists in modern Britain that they vow to do it again. Welcome to the United Kingdom, 2017.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/03/13/drawing-the-line-against-footloose-fatwas-in-the-u-k.html
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Re: Drawing the Line Against ‘Footloose’ Fatwas in the U.K.
by veya_victaous Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:07 am
I mean this seem like it could be dealt with pretty easily through social backlash against those that threatened her.
say 'Music is evil' get punched in the face, how hard is it?
Even for the authorities there are clearly multiple death threats, so the police should do their job and Go arrest every single individual that made a death threat.
Do that half a dozen times (or as many times as these incidents come up) and Problem solved.
it seems like sexists and racists are given 'free speech' to the detriment of society in the UK.
say 'Music is evil' get punched in the face, how hard is it?
Even for the authorities there are clearly multiple death threats, so the police should do their job and Go arrest every single individual that made a death threat.
Do that half a dozen times (or as many times as these incidents come up) and Problem solved.
it seems like sexists and racists are given 'free speech' to the detriment of society in the UK.
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Re: Drawing the Line Against ‘Footloose’ Fatwas in the U.K.
by Victorismyhero Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:14 am
well veya, thats the european lefty for you....
you just dont "get it" do you....
the euro lefty is either shit scared of te islamists, or in bed with em...I dont know which but in the euro lefty world they (the islamist) is able to "do as he likes"...one mustnt criticise them you know...or take action against them...
from grooming gangs to FGM the lefty will either "minimise, ignore or justify" their crimes, using straw man arguments such as "well there are plenty of white paedos (yes, well , we know that...why should we tolerate any more....?)
you just dont "get it" do you....
the euro lefty is either shit scared of te islamists, or in bed with em...I dont know which but in the euro lefty world they (the islamist) is able to "do as he likes"...one mustnt criticise them you know...or take action against them...
from grooming gangs to FGM the lefty will either "minimise, ignore or justify" their crimes, using straw man arguments such as "well there are plenty of white paedos (yes, well , we know that...why should we tolerate any more....?)
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Re: Drawing the Line Against ‘Footloose’ Fatwas in the U.K.
by 'Wolfie Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:40 am
Lord Foul wrote:well veya, thats the european lefty for you....
you just dont "get it" do you....
the euro lefty is either shit scared of te islamists, or in bed with em...I dont know which but in the euro lefty world they (the islamist) is able to "do as he likes"...one mustnt criticise them you know...or take action against them...
from grooming gangs to FGM the lefty will either "minimise, ignore or justify" their crimes, using straw man arguments such as "well there are plenty of white paedos (yes, well , we know that...why should we tolerate any more....?)
What a self-serving load of outright bullshit, Victor...
Despite regular claims to the contrary, no-one can point to any actual evidence on here of this forum's resident "lefties" on here pandering to paedo's, rapists or terrorists..
And yet just last week, we saw four resident NewsFix contributors attempting to cover up and deflect from a couple of threads on institutionalised child abuse, and the "stealing" and export of children during WWII..
http://www.newsfixboard.com/t19891-british-establishment-hides-major-sexual-pervert
http://www.newsfixboard.com/t19892-sexual-pervertions-in-australia
And not once did I see you criticise outrageous behaviour from nicko, Ragg's, Horatio or VoD across those threads.. One rule for the right wing fascists in your midst, and another one for everone else ?
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Re: Drawing the Line Against ‘Footloose’ Fatwas in the U.K.
by HoratioTarr Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:44 pm
WhoseYourWolfie wrote:Lord Foul wrote:well veya, thats the european lefty for you....
you just dont "get it" do you....
the euro lefty is either shit scared of te islamists, or in bed with em...I dont know which but in the euro lefty world they (the islamist) is able to "do as he likes"...one mustnt criticise them you know...or take action against them...
from grooming gangs to FGM the lefty will either "minimise, ignore or justify" their crimes, using straw man arguments such as "well there are plenty of white paedos (yes, well , we know that...why should we tolerate any more....?)
What a self-serving load of outright bullshit, Victor...
Despite regular claims to the contrary, no-one can point to any actual evidence on here of this forum's resident "lefties" on here pandering to paedo's, rapists or terrorists..
And yet just last week, we saw four resident NewsFix contributors attempting to cover up and deflect from a couple of threads on institutionalised child abuse, and the "stealing" and export of children during WWII..
http://www.newsfixboard.com/t19891-british-establishment-hides-major-sexual-pervert
http://www.newsfixboard.com/t19892-sexual-pervertions-in-australia
And not once did I see you criticise outrageous behaviour from nicko, Ragg's, Horatio or VoD across those threads.. One rule for the right wing fascists in your midst, and another one for everone else ?
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Re: Drawing the Line Against ‘Footloose’ Fatwas in the U.K.
by Victorismyhero Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:39 pm
oh STFU wolfie I'll speak where I like ...
I prbably missed these R/W ers "deflecting from some cover up" becasue I suddenly came across (yet another) of your blowhard tantrums.....
you nowt but an old windbag....
I prbably missed these R/W ers "deflecting from some cover up" becasue I suddenly came across (yet another) of your blowhard tantrums.....
you nowt but an old windbag....
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Re: Drawing the Line Against ‘Footloose’ Fatwas in the U.K.
by nicko Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:43 pm
He must lead a miserable life, nothing to do but moan, moan, moan.
Are you ever happy Wolfie?
Are you ever happy Wolfie?
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Re: Drawing the Line Against ‘Footloose’ Fatwas in the U.K.
by veya_victaous Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:03 am
Lord Foul wrote:well veya, thats the european lefty for you....
you just dont "get it" do you....
the euro lefty is either shit scared of te islamists, or in bed with em...I dont know which but in the euro lefty world they (the islamist) is able to "do as he likes"...one mustnt criticise them you know...or take action against them...
from grooming gangs to FGM the lefty will either "minimise, ignore or justify" their crimes, using straw man arguments such as "well there are plenty of white paedos (yes, well , we know that...why should we tolerate any more....?)
I don't care which side, as far as I am concerned you are all just Europeans
Yes the LW seem incompetent But
I cant see the right wing of Europe sensibly dealing with it either
the RW automatic reaction seems to be revive the Nazis
neither side seems at all interested in dealing with problems rationally
neither side seems to understand targeted measured responses
both are like uneducated teens given the keys to a nice house and hell bent on trashing it.
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Re: Drawing the Line Against ‘Footloose’ Fatwas in the U.K.
by SEXY MAMA Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:23 pm
BS from the OP.
Just scaremongering tactics!
So a few guys posted crap about the woman dancing and?
Doesn't slut shaming happen all the time here? No big deal apart from the fact it's Muslims so yes let's make a mother fucking big deal about it
Just scaremongering tactics!
So a few guys posted crap about the woman dancing and?
Doesn't slut shaming happen all the time here? No big deal apart from the fact it's Muslims so yes let's make a mother fucking big deal about it
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Re: Drawing the Line Against ‘Footloose’ Fatwas in the U.K.
by eddie Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:49 pm
So a girl happens to have a good time and all hell breaks loose? Jeez.
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Re: Drawing the Line Against ‘Footloose’ Fatwas in the U.K.
by magica Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:51 pm
Don't think she did anything wrong. Having a laugh and why not. Oh she's Muslim can't be seen laughing and jerking, how small minded some are. Go for it girl.
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Re: Drawing the Line Against ‘Footloose’ Fatwas in the U.K.
by Ben Reilly Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:00 pm
So basically, you have right-wing Muslims upset that she's twerking, and right-wing British upset that she's Muslim.
Fuck the right.
Fuck the right.
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by nicko Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:26 pm
T
Fuck the Left, don't know why, just to even things up I suppose.
Fuck the Left, don't know why, just to even things up I suppose.
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Re: Drawing the Line Against ‘Footloose’ Fatwas in the U.K.
by eddie Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:43 pm
Nicko did you mean to leave a big space between your "T" and "Fuck the left" comment?
If so, I don't get it.
If so, I don't get it.
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Re: Drawing the Line Against ‘Footloose’ Fatwas in the U.K.
by Guest Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:54 pm
SEXY MAMA wrote:BS from the OP.
Just scaremongering tactics!
So a few guys posted crap about the woman dancing and?
Doesn't slut shaming happen all the time here? No big deal apart from the fact it's Muslims so yes let's make a mother fucking big deal about it
She received death threats, which is far removed from shaming here. So far removed you are poorly downplaying the problem.
So you tell me, is death threats no big deal and that are you really trying to tell me that she will not be ostracized for what she has done by some Sexy, within the Muslim community?
So yes lets make a big deal, because this is a tolerant country and tolerance of intolerance is cowardice.
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Re: Drawing the Line Against ‘Footloose’ Fatwas in the U.K.
by SEXY MAMA Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:15 pm
Thorin wrote:SEXY MAMA wrote:BS from the OP.
Just scaremongering tactics!
So a few guys posted crap about the woman dancing and?
Doesn't slut shaming happen all the time here? No big deal apart from the fact it's Muslims so yes let's make a mother fucking big deal about it
She received death threats, which is far removed from shaming here. So far removed you are poorly downplaying the problem.
So you tell me, is death threats no big deal and that are you really trying to tell me that she will not be ostracized for what she has done by some Sexy, within the Muslim community?
So yes lets make a big deal, because this is a tolerant country and tolerance of intolerance is cowardice.
Death threats given by cowards cause that's all they do!
You are very naive when it comes to Muslims Didge
The woman knew what she was doing and she was having a good time. Some guys couldn't take it and just spewed hate. Cause in this social media world of ours it's easy to do.
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Re: Drawing the Line Against ‘Footloose’ Fatwas in the U.K.
by Guest Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:26 pm
SEXY MAMA wrote:Thorin wrote:
She received death threats, which is far removed from shaming here. So far removed you are poorly downplaying the problem.
So you tell me, is death threats no big deal and that are you really trying to tell me that she will not be ostracized for what she has done by some Sexy, within the Muslim community?
So yes lets make a big deal, because this is a tolerant country and tolerance of intolerance is cowardice.
Death threats given by cowards cause that's all they do!
You are very naive when it comes to Muslims Didge
The woman knew what she was doing and she was having a good time. Some guys couldn't take it and just spewed hate. Cause in this social media world of ours it's easy to do.
How am I naive?
The woman did no wrong
She should not receive hate and death threats and yet she did.
You are poorly downplaying this.
Will you only sit up, when she is killed or ostracized?
Why are you and other Muslim women not standing up and condemn them all?
Where is your voice?
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by SEXY MAMA Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:32 pm
What are you on about? Seriously!!!!
The guys who have given death threats have been condemned
The guys who have given death threats have been condemned
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by Guest Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:37 pm
SEXY MAMA wrote:What are you on about? Seriously!!!!
The guys who have given death threats have been condemned
Whopdeedoo
How about Muslims show solidarity and condemn them publicly in numbers?
I know you condemn this, but where are others Sexy in the media?
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by SEXY MAMA Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:39 pm
Thorin wrote:SEXY MAMA wrote:What are you on about? Seriously!!!!
The guys who have given death threats have been condemned
Whopdeedoo
How about Muslims show solidarity and condemn them publicly in numbers?
I know you condemn this, but where are others Sexy in the media?
On her facebook page where the guys gave death threats.
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Re: Drawing the Line Against ‘Footloose’ Fatwas in the U.K.
by Guest Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:42 pm
SEXY MAMA wrote:Thorin wrote:
Whopdeedoo
How about Muslims show solidarity and condemn them publicly in numbers?
I know you condemn this, but where are others Sexy in the media?
On her facebook page where the guys gave death threats.
How many?
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Re: Drawing the Line Against ‘Footloose’ Fatwas in the U.K.
by Guest Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:43 pm
Also where is the Muslim Council of Britain condemning those who gave death threats and those claiming it is haram?
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Re: Drawing the Line Against ‘Footloose’ Fatwas in the U.K.
by SEXY MAMA Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:46 pm
Thorin wrote:Also where is the Muslim Council of Britain condemning those who gave death threats and those claiming it is haram?
TMC doesn't get involved in every Muslim issue!
The boys who gave death threats took it back due to pressure from sane minded Muslims
End of story.
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by Guest Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:53 pm
SEXY MAMA wrote:Thorin wrote:Also where is the Muslim Council of Britain condemning those who gave death threats and those claiming it is haram?
TMC doesn't get involved in every Muslim issue!
The boys who gave death threats took it back due to pressure from sane minded Muslims
End of story.
So where a person receives death threats they do not get involved.
Complete cowards
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by SEXY MAMA Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:56 pm
Thorin wrote:SEXY MAMA wrote:
TMC doesn't get involved in every Muslim issue!
The boys who gave death threats took it back due to pressure from sane minded Muslims
End of story.
So where a person receives death threats they do not get involved.
Complete cowards
No they didn't need to cause IT WAS SORTED!!!!!!!
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Re: Drawing the Line Against ‘Footloose’ Fatwas in the U.K.
by SEXY MAMA Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:57 pm
WHERE IS THE HEAD pulling emoji?
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Re: Drawing the Line Against ‘Footloose’ Fatwas in the U.K.
by eddie Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:57 pm
SEXY MAMA wrote:WHERE IS THE HEAD pulling emoji?
You could shoot him
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Re: Drawing the Line Against ‘Footloose’ Fatwas in the U.K.
by Guest Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:00 pm
SEXY MAMA wrote:Thorin wrote:
So where a person receives death threats they do not get involved.
Complete cowards
No they didn't need to cause IT WAS SORTED!!!!!!!
Its not sorted and you are making poor excuses for those who are Muslim leaders who did not speak out
Do you know why?
Because many also believe Music is Haram
That is where you are being dishonest on this
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Re: Drawing the Line Against ‘Footloose’ Fatwas in the U.K.
by SEXY MAMA Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:03 pm
eddie wrote:SEXY MAMA wrote:WHERE IS THE HEAD pulling emoji?
You could shoot him
Haha!
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Re: Drawing the Line Against ‘Footloose’ Fatwas in the U.K.
by SEXY MAMA Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:06 pm
Thorin wrote:SEXY MAMA wrote:
No they didn't need to cause IT WAS SORTED!!!!!!!
Its not sorted and you are making poor excuses for those who are Muslim leaders who did not speak out
Do you know why?
Because many also believe Music is Haram
That is where you are being dishonest on this
What? Now you are bringing SOMETHING else in this debate cause it didn't go your way
THE MCB doesn't say Music is haram
Yes some Muslims believe it is and? Everyone has their own view on subjects. What's that got to do with the above?
The death threats were taken back
End of fucking story
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Re: Drawing the Line Against ‘Footloose’ Fatwas in the U.K.
by Guest Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:07 pm
SEXY MAMA wrote:Thorin wrote:
Its not sorted and you are making poor excuses for those who are Muslim leaders who did not speak out
Do you know why?
Because many also believe Music is Haram
That is where you are being dishonest on this
What? Now you are bringing SOMETHING else in this debate cause it didn't go your way
THE MCB doesn't say Music is haram
Yes some Muslims believe it is and? Everyone has their own view on subjects. What's that got to do with the above?
The death threats were taken back
End of fucking story
Really?
Then why have they not spoken out on this, where the girl received death threats
So, clearly the MCB which I know is run by those of the Muslim Brotherhood do believe it is haram.
No its not the end of the story and you are making excuses for Islamists
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Re: Drawing the Line Against ‘Footloose’ Fatwas in the U.K.
by SEXY MAMA Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:12 pm
Thorin wrote:SEXY MAMA wrote:
What? Now you are bringing SOMETHING else in this debate cause it didn't go your way
THE MCB doesn't say Music is haram
Yes some Muslims believe it is and? Everyone has their own view on subjects. What's that got to do with the above?
The death threats were taken back
End of fucking story
Really?
Then why have they not spoken out on this, where the girl received death threats
So, clearly the MCB which I know is run by those of the Muslim Brotherhood do believe it is haram.
No its not the end of the story and you are making excuses for Islamists
It is cause the death threats were taken back.
I have never made excuses for any extremists before and you saying that is a very low thing to do.
This is why I avoided 'talking' to you before!
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Re: Drawing the Line Against ‘Footloose’ Fatwas in the U.K.
by Guest Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:15 pm
SEXY MAMA wrote:Thorin wrote:
Really?
Then why have they not spoken out on this, where the girl received death threats
So, clearly the MCB which I know is run by those of the Muslim Brotherhood do believe it is haram.
No its not the end of the story and you are making excuses for Islamists
It is cause the death threats were taken back.
I have never made excuses for any extremists before and you saying that is a very low thing to do.
This is why I avoided 'talking' to you before!
No they were not, some Muslim leaders told them off for doing so, but still backed the view it was haram
You are making excuses here
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Re: Drawing the Line Against ‘Footloose’ Fatwas in the U.K.
by veya_victaous Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:15 am
Upon seeing the video in question, by their own admission Ali and Musa reacted angrily and moved publicly to “correct” the girl. They posted an image of her dancing, and separately recorded a rant about why such behavior is totally unacceptable for Muslims. Many other Muslims on their page soon pointed out how this only helped the “offending” video to go viral. Death threats against the petrified teenager soon followed.
Undeterred, the pair got in touch with the family of the 17-year-old girl and decided to record and publish her “repentance,” to ward off the threats. Just before the terrified girl was put on, the pair of medievalists can be heard ruminating on how her dance was “really inappropriate” as Ali continued, “We was really upset to be honest, and I’m sure a lot of you guys was upset as well… a lot of us hate seeing certain things done by practicing-looking individuals.”
To be honest even the supposedly good Muslim leaders are pretty fucked up.
the idea that they have any right to 'correct' a stranger is Fucked up
it is the core of the problem and is completely contradictory to ideals of freedom
I think these 2 Neanderthals need to be 'corrected' as to the right to assert religious dogma on anyone (none! no right to do that)
I think they are just scared they know they can't dance and they're worried that a 'westerner' will steal one of 'their girls'... which is not completely untrue, the Muslim girl I dated, I meet through dancing
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Re: Drawing the Line Against ‘Footloose’ Fatwas in the U.K.
by Guest Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:08 pm
veya_victaous wrote:Upon seeing the video in question, by their own admission Ali and Musa reacted angrily and moved publicly to “correct” the girl. They posted an image of her dancing, and separately recorded a rant about why such behavior is totally unacceptable for Muslims. Many other Muslims on their page soon pointed out how this only helped the “offending” video to go viral. Death threats against the petrified teenager soon followed.
Undeterred, the pair got in touch with the family of the 17-year-old girl and decided to record and publish her “repentance,” to ward off the threats. Just before the terrified girl was put on, the pair of medievalists can be heard ruminating on how her dance was “really inappropriate” as Ali continued, “We was really upset to be honest, and I’m sure a lot of you guys was upset as well… a lot of us hate seeing certain things done by practicing-looking individuals.”
To be honest even the supposedly good Muslim leaders are pretty fucked up.
the idea that they have any right to 'correct' a stranger is Fucked up
it is the core of the problem and is completely contradictory to ideals of freedom
I think these 2 Neanderthals need to be 'corrected' as to the right to assert religious dogma on anyone (none! no right to do that)
I think they are just scared they know they can't dance and they're worried that a 'westerner' will steal one of 'their girls'... which is not completely untrue, the Muslim girl I dated, I meet through dancing
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