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Post by Ben Reilly Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:37 pm

Officials in the West African nation of Ivory Coast say soldiers have overrun police stations and seized the country's second-largest city, Bouake.

It has been six years since the West African nation emerged from a civil war, during which Bouake was the headquarters of the rebellion.

NPR's Ofeibea Quist-Arcton said there were also reports of gunfire in two other cities, Daloa and Korhogo, and that it wasn't clear whether the attacks were a mutiny by current or former troops.

As Ofeibea reported for NPR's Newscast Unit:

"Troops reportedly seized weapons from police stations and took up positions at the entrance to Bouake. One soldier says former fighters integrated into Ivory Coast's army were demanding bonuses of $8,000 apiece — plus a house.
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"A statement from Ivorian Defense Minister Alain-Richard Donwahi has called on soldiers to remain calm and return to their barracks, to allow, he says, for lasting solutions to the latest crisis in Ivory Coast, which has recently been burnishing its democratic credentials."
A member of the national assembly representing Bouake, Bema Fofana, told the BBC that "the soldiers did not appear to have a leader or spokesman, making it difficult to negotiate with them," the broadcaster reported, and that "most of the soldiers were former rebels who were integrated into the army after the civil war."

The BBC also reported that a resident who asked not to be identified said soldiers armed with automatic rifles "fired at the offices of the state broadcaster in the city."

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/01/06/508521325/soldiers-seize-ivory-coasts-2nd-largest-city-reportedly-demanding-money-houses
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Post by eddie Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:34 pm

That's some scary shit.
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Post by Guest Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:54 pm

Points to consider?

Why does not this story even generate many comments and reactions?

Is it that it has hardly any media attention?

A lack of empathic intelligence from posters?

Does our media not hold all aspects of conflicts and violence to the same level playing field?

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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:34 am






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Post by Guest Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:40 am

Tommy Monk wrote:







Here is a fine example of what I am talking about in what motivates people about a story.

I am sure those who want to take over have everything to do with Islam to them and who are just like yourself Tommy in fear of a loss of a control for their beliefs.

How do you combat these issues?

You cannot remove 1.5 billion Muslims from the world. So what do you suggest to deal with those who are extreme?

Bring about a situation that brings about a religious war?

With Muslims against Non-Muslims?

How many centuries do you need in history to see how badly that plan has failed?

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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:18 am

Thorin wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:







Here is a fine example of what I am talking about in what motivates people about a story.

I am sure those who want to take over have everything to do with Islam to them and who are just like yourself Tommy in fear of a loss of a control for their beliefs.


How do you combat these issues?

You cannot remove 1.5 billion Muslims from the world. So what do you suggest to deal with those who are extreme?

Bring about a situation that brings about a religious war?

With Muslims against Non-Muslims?

How many centuries do you need in history to see how badly that plan has failed
?


1. The problem is Muslims trying to take over... nothing to do with a loss of control, as they don't have control, but are again demonstrating their desire to fight against freedom/democracy and to seize control, and then be brutal dictators removing everyone's freedoms and imposing islam to all etc...


2. There are 5.5billion people in the world who are not Islamist mohamadian idiots...


3. Muslims are doing the same shit as they have always done... Muslims against Non-Muslims... how many centuries do you need...etc...!?


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Post by Guest Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:26 am

Tommy Monk wrote:
Thorin wrote:



Here is a fine example of what I am talking about in what motivates people about a story.

I am sure those who want to take over have everything to do with Islam to them and who are just like yourself Tommy in fear of a loss of a control for their beliefs.


How do you combat these issues?

You cannot remove 1.5 billion Muslims from the world. So what do you suggest to deal with those who are extreme?

Bring about a situation that brings about a religious war?

With Muslims against Non-Muslims?

How many centuries do you need in history to see how badly that plan has failed
?


1. The problem is Muslims trying to take over... nothing to do with a loss of control, as they don't have control, but are again demonstrating their desire to fight against freedom/democracy and to seize control, and then be brutal dictators removing everyone's freedoms and imposing islam to all etc...


2. There are 5.5billion people in the world who are not Islamist mohamadian idiots...


3. Muslims are doing the same shit as they have always done... Muslims against Non-Muslims... how many centuries do you need...etc...!?




1) Is that not any different from he Christian Europeans taking over? Forming a global Empire? The problem is partly some extremist Muslims today. So is though swinging to the Far Right claiming to be against Totalitarianism, whilst supporting the same in the form of the Far Right. So tell me in what way is each different, when they will deny you many freedoms?

2) I care how many liberals and Democrats are in the world, as the way we are going. You will equal Mohammadan idiots with Totalitarianism by supporting he Far Right.
 
3) They claim the same shit of us in the West, how many centuries do you need? Who controlled the Middle East in the 20th century and when did they really have any form of independence?

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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:39 am



It's only the Muslims who are trying to take control by force and then remove freedom and democracy from everyone else...


It's only Muslim places that need controlling to hold them back from imposing brutality and dictatorial rule and for freedom and democracy and rights of the other minority/religious groups to stand a chance of survival...


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Post by Guest Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:41 am

Tommy Monk wrote:

It's only the Muslims who are trying to take control by force and then remove freedom and democracy from everyone else...


It's only Muslim places that need controlling to hold them back from imposing brutality and dictatorial rule and for freedom and democracy and rights of the other minority/religious groups to stand a chance of survival...



How many democracies are there in the world Tommy?

How many Totalitarian nations|?

Do you know how many are not Muslims?

So you are saying you want to ensure years of violence by a war of subjugation of 1.5 billion Muslims then?

Have you never read the history of Rome?

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Post by Guest Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:07 am

By the way Tommy. You do realise that by calling for the controlling of Muslim places. is actually no better than Islamism itself? You want to replace Islamic totalitarianism with Western totalitarianism. Are you saying to criminalize beliefs?

You want to force your beliefs on people, as they do?

Or do you want to change poor beliefs with sound reasons, as I do?

As we saw happen before in her west?

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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:32 pm

Protecting people from Islamic brutality and dictatorship is like protecting people from the Nazis.
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:33 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Protecting people from Islamic brutality and dictatorship is like protecting people from the Nazis.


Nothing wrong with protecting people from oppression
I support that.
You though stated you wanted to control by enforcing your views on people.
That will achieve nothing but further conflict and violence.
The west once was very much like a dictatorship and religiously so.
How do you think it changed?

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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:38 pm

Control them by stopping them imposing their Islamic brutality on others...


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Post by Guest Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:47 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Control them by stopping them imposing their Islamic brutality on others...



How do you propose to do that in Muslim majority countries?
I actually would love to hear your own ideas on this, as would love to stop such oppressive laws?

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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:58 pm

Are you saying that there can only be Islamic brutality and dictatorship in countries with large numbers of Muslims... with others persecuted...?
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:01 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Are you saying that there can only be Islamic brutality and dictatorship in countries with large numbers of Muslims... with others persecuted...?

What on earth does that have to do with my questions?

Some Muslims countries are under Totalitarian Theocracies brutality

I am asking for solutions

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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:02 pm

So you agree they are a problem...!?
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:05 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:So you agree they are a problem...!?

How did I deny they are a problem, when I asking you for a solution?

Which you keep avoiding

Its like asking me if the Catholic Church has a history of barbarity or not?

So I am still waiting for your solutions?

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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:08 pm



Are you saying that there can only be Islamic brutality and dictatorship in countries with large numbers of Muslims... with others persecuted...?
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:10 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

Are you saying that there can only be Islamic brutality and dictatorship in countries with large numbers of Muslims... with others persecuted...?

No

In some of them there is brutality and others there is not.

Talk about constantly evading the points asked of you.

So again what do you propose

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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:16 pm

This thread is about the Muslims trying to take over the Ivory coast... not about me...!
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:20 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:This thread is about the Muslims trying to take over the Ivory coast... not about me...!

So you could not offer up any solutions to the problems


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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:22 pm

What's your solution...?


Bend over to them and convert to islam!?
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:24 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:What's your solution...?


Bend over to them and convert to islam!?

Enlightenment
Education
Science
Equality
Secualrism

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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:35 pm

All enemies of Islam...
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:37 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:All enemies of Islam...

And Christianity
Judaism
Hinduism
Sikhism
Far Right Politics
Far Left Politics
Ect

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Hardly...
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:46 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

Hardly...

Really, show me he compatibility with Christianity and equality for example?
Being the fact only Christians are forgiven?

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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:49 pm

This thread is not about me Dodge... it is about Muslims trying to take over ivory coast...


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Post by Guest Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:51 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:This thread is not about me Dodge... it is about Muslims trying to take over ivory coast...


Laughing

Never claimed it was about you.
It is about questioning your claims
You though now want to deflect away from your flawed understanding of this.

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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:28 pm

It's you who is deflecting from the reality of thread by going on about Christians/Jews/Sikhs etc...
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