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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:34 pm

Investigators believe Ohio State attacker was inspired by ISIS


Police: Ohio State attacker inspired by ISIS

Police: Ohio State attacker inspired by ISIS 02:21
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Attacker's purported Facebook page had grievances about attacks on Muslims

The attacker was an 18-year-old recent transfer student
(CNN)Authorities believe the Ohio State University student responsible for Monday's attack on campus was inspired by terrorist propaganda from ISIS and deceased Yemeni-American cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, two law enforcement sources said.

The sources point to Abdul Razak Ali Artan's Facebook posts before his short-lived rampage on the Columbus campus. The posts referenced Awlaki, who was a leader of al Qaeda in Yemen. Sources also note the style of the attack was encouraged by ISIS in a recent online magazine.


Investigators believe Ohio State attacker was inspired by ISIS
By Max Blau, Emanuella Grinberg and Shimon Prokupecz, CNN

Updated 0421 GMT (1221 HKT) November 30, 2016
Police: Ohio State attacker inspired by ISIS

Police: Ohio State attacker inspired by ISIS 02:21
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Attacker's purported Facebook page had grievances about attacks on Muslims
The attacker was an 18-year-old recent transfer student
(CNN)Authorities believe the Ohio State University student responsible for Monday's attack on campus was inspired by terrorist propaganda from ISIS and deceased Yemeni-American cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, two law enforcement sources said.

The sources point to Abdul Razak Ali Artan's Facebook posts before his short-lived rampage on the Columbus campus. The posts referenced Awlaki, who was a leader of al Qaeda in Yemen. Sources also note the style of the attack was encouraged by ISIS in a recent online magazine.

Despite claims from the Islamic State's purported media wing that Artan was an ISIS soldier, there is no indication so far that Artan communicated with any terror group; evidence points to a lone wolf attack. Investigators are inspecting his computer and cell phone and talking to family and associates, as they try to determine what led him to act.

Artan bought knives on the day of the attack, a law enforcement official said. Artan rammed his car into a group of people on the Columbus campus and then got out and charged at passersby with a knife. Ohio State University Police Officer Alan Horujko shot Artan after he failed to obey orders to stop, killing him and stopping the attack.

Of the 11 people injured three remain hospitalized, Dr. Andrew Thomas said at a news conference Tuesday. Thomas is chief medical officer of the OSU Wexner Medical Center.


http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/29/us/ohio-state-university-attack/
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Post by Original Quill Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:25 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Investigators believe Ohio State attacker was inspired by ISIS

Police: Ohio State attacker inspired by ISIS

Police: Ohio State attacker inspired by ISIS 02:21

When I was a child I was inspired by cowboy heroes. We had a barn on our property and that inspired me to play out the roles that we saw on Saturday morning TV. We used to mimic the likes of Ken Maynard, Tom Mix and Bob Steele.

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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:59 pm

The sources point to Abdul Razak Ali Artan's Facebook posts before his short-lived rampage on the Columbus campus. The posts referenced Awlaki, who was a leader of al Qaeda in Yemen. Sources also note the style of the attack was encouraged by ISIS in a recent online magazine.



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Post by Ben Reilly Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:19 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3994656/Hundreds-sign-petition-calling-OSU-administrator-fired-Facebook-post-calling-compassion-terrorist-Abdul-Artan.html

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38187595

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/abdul-razak-ali-artan-ohio-state-attacker-self-radicalised-isis-claim-soldier-a7446546.html

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38136658

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/isis-claims-ohio-state-university-9360435

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3980788/The-moment-Ohio-state-knifeman-drove-campus-mowing-slashing-classmates-local-store-manager-expresses-shock-smiling-customer-capable-doing-terrible.html

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/29/ohio-state-shooting-abdul-razak-ali-artan
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Post by eddie Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:32 pm

That's allotta links dude.
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Post by Ben Reilly Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:34 pm

eddie wrote:That's allotta links dude.

Yeah, damn that silent UK media.
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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:24 pm

Bae the Cray wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3994656/Hundreds-sign-petition-calling-OSU-administrator-fired-Facebook-post-calling-compassion-terrorist-Abdul-Artan.html

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38187595

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/abdul-razak-ali-artan-ohio-state-attacker-self-radicalised-isis-claim-soldier-a7446546.html

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38136658

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/isis-claims-ohio-state-university-9360435

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3980788/The-moment-Ohio-state-knifeman-drove-campus-mowing-slashing-classmates-local-store-manager-expresses-shock-smiling-customer-capable-doing-terrible.html

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/29/ohio-state-shooting-abdul-razak-ali-artan



Yes... only mentioned in a few online articles (that you would only see/find if you had already heard about the incident and then actually looked specifically for them)... but as there has been no mention of it here in general uk MSM tv/radio news broadcasts or in the newspapers etc... how would anyone know about it at all to even be trying to look up any other possible articles about it...?


I have not seen/heard any mention of this (Islamist terrorist related attack) on any uk MSM tv/radio news broadcast yet... not seen it in any papers I've read this week either...


How many uk based posters here knew about it before I posted this thread about it...?


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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Dec 04, 2016 2:15 pm

Nobody?
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Post by eddie Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:35 pm

There's loads of stuff I don't know before i see it online.
Not sure what your point is.
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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:14 pm


I thought I'd made my point pretty clearly eddie...
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Post by Original Quill Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:22 pm

Actually, you aren't clear at all tommy. Are you saying media companies in the UK are inadequate? Sounds like it.

If so, how does that relate to Ohio State University and the story involving that university? You seem to have lost touch with the topic of the thread.

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Post by eddie Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:24 pm

No that was his point; that this happened and the UK media ignored it. This was blatently shown to not be true by Ben in his post above.
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Post by Original Quill Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:30 pm

I believe what he is trying to say is that the Islamic association was not made in the British media.  What Ben did was to point out several medial sources that dealt with it.

Tommy will retreat into the position of saying that denial of the association is not dealing with the connection.  You have to know how his mind works.

Even the simplest question has at least two answers: yes/no. For tommy, a denial is not the subject, because he wants to answer the question yes. Analytically, he's making a statement, not genuinely asking the question.

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:01 pm

This Islamic terrorist attack was not mentioned here in uk on any mainstream TV or radio news broadcast and I haven't seen any mention of it in either the 'metro' or 'evening standard' newspapers last week.


Yes there are a few articles about it online... but none of these were pushed to the forefront of public view... but instead pushed right to the bottom and out of sight of the public... ie these articles would only be seen if you actually looked specifically for them... which is highly unlikely for anyone to be doing as nobody here in uk has heard about it in the first place!!!


Simple way of confirming the lack of publicity of this attack here in uk would be for uk posters here to make a point of asking people you talk to this week if they had heard about the incident at all... and I'll bet that you don't find many (if any) who say they had...!


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Post by Original Quill Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:09 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:This Islamic terrorist attack was not mentioned here in uk on any mainstream TV or radio news broadcast and I haven't seen any mention of it in either the 'metro' or 'evening standard' newspapers last week.

Yes there are a few articles about it online... but none of these were pushed to the forefront of public view... but instead pushed right to the bottom and out of sight of the public... ie these articles would only be seen if you actually looked specifically for them... which is highly unlikely for anyone to be doing as nobody here in uk has heard about it in the first place!!!

Simple way of confirming the lack of publicity of this attack here in uk would be for uk posters here to make a point of asking people you talk to this week if they had heard about the incident at all... and I'll bet that you don't find many (if any) who say they had...!

See?  What did I tell you?

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:19 pm

Original Quill wrote:I believe what he is trying to say is that the Islamic association was not made in the British media.  What Ben did was to point out several medial sources that dealt with it.

Tommy will retreat into the position of saying that denial of the association is not dealing with the connection.  You have to know how his mind works.

Even the simplest question has at least two answers: yes/no.  For tommy, a denial is not the subject, because he wants to answer the question yes.  Analytically, he's making a statement, not genuinely asking the question.


No... there was no mention of the incident at all over here on any main stream tv/radio news broadcast!!!


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Post by Original Quill Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:22 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Original Quill wrote:I believe what he is trying to say is that the Islamic association was not made in the British media.  What Ben did was to point out several medial sources that dealt with it.

Tommy will retreat into the position of saying that denial of the association is not dealing with the connection.  You have to know how his mind works.

Even the simplest question has at least two answers: yes/no.  For tommy, a denial is not the subject, because he wants to answer the question yes.  Analytically, he's making a statement, not genuinely asking the question.

No... there was no mention of the incident at all over here on any main stream tv/radio news broadcast!!!

I told you so...

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:53 pm

No... you said it was just the Islamic aspect not mentioned...


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Post by Ben Reilly Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:13 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:This Islamic terrorist attack was not mentioned here in uk on any mainstream TV or radio news broadcast and I haven't seen any mention of it in either the 'metro' or 'evening standard' newspapers last week.


Yes there are a few articles about it online... but none of these were pushed to the forefront of public view... but instead pushed right to the bottom and out of sight of the public... ie these articles would only be seen if you actually looked specifically for them... which is highly unlikely for anyone to be doing as nobody here in uk has heard about it in the first place!!!


Simple way of confirming the lack of publicity of this attack here in uk would be for uk posters here to make a point of asking people you talk to this week if they had heard about the incident at all... and I'll bet that you don't find many (if any) who say they had...!



Do people in the UK in general really want to be kept in the loop about what's going on in Ohio?

Y'all don't have more pressing news, that an incident across the ocean needs to be banner headlines on all the local papers?
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Post by Original Quill Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:40 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:No... you said it was just the Islamic aspect not mentioned...

Did you not see Ben's first post in the thread? There were several mentions.

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Post by scrat Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:54 pm

Bae the Cray wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:This Islamic terrorist attack was not mentioned here in uk on any mainstream TV or radio news broadcast and I haven't seen any mention of it in either the 'metro' or 'evening standard' newspapers last week.


Yes there are a few articles about it online... but none of these were pushed to the forefront of public view... but instead pushed right to the bottom and out of sight of the public... ie these articles would only be seen if you actually looked specifically for them... which is highly unlikely for anyone to be doing as nobody here in uk has heard about it in the first place!!!


Simple way of confirming the lack of publicity of this attack here in uk would be for uk posters here to make a point of asking people you talk to this week if they had heard about the incident at all... and I'll bet that you don't find many (if any) who say they had...!



Do people in the UK in general really want to be kept in the loop about what's going on in Ohio?

Y'all don't have more pressing news, that an incident across the ocean needs to be banner headlines on all the local papers?
Far right types trawl the Internet for any bad news Muslim stories, it's what they do, the irony of course is the fact that these far right types are just as mental as ISIS.
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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:05 pm

Bae the Cray wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:This Islamic terrorist attack was not mentioned here in uk on any mainstream TV or radio news broadcast and I haven't seen any mention of it in either the 'metro' or 'evening standard' newspapers last week.


Yes there are a few articles about it online... but none of these were pushed to the forefront of public view... but instead pushed right to the bottom and out of sight of the public... ie these articles would only be seen if you actually looked specifically for them... which is highly unlikely for anyone to be doing as nobody here in uk has heard about it in the first place!!!


Simple way of confirming the lack of publicity of this attack here in uk would be for uk posters here to make a point of asking people you talk to this week if they had heard about the incident at all... and I'll bet that you don't find many (if any) who say they had...!



Do people in the UK in general really want to be kept in the loop about what's going on in Ohio?

Y'all don't have more pressing news, that an incident across the ocean needs to be banner headlines on all the local papers?


Normally we would have seen a large amount of MSM news coverage here in uk about this for two big reasons... firstly, any school/college campus attack like this gets a lot of coverage over here... and secondly, any Islamist terrorist attack in usa also gets a lot of coverage over here...!


Very strange how this attack, that ticks two of the big boxes to warrant being a major news story here, has not had a single mention on any MSM uk tv/radio news broadcast...!?

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Post by Ben Reilly Sun Dec 04, 2016 9:07 pm

And you're constantly monitoring all the radio and TV stations?
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Not all but enough of the main ones to have seen this terrorist attack being mentioned...
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Post by Original Quill Sun Dec 04, 2016 9:58 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:No... you said it was just the Islamic aspect not mentioned...

Tommy Monk wrote:Not all but enough of the main ones to have seen this terrorist attack being mentioned...

There you go...

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:14 pm

'There you go'... what...?


School/college attacks get big news coverage over here... as do Islamist terrorist attacks...


This was either one or both of these things... but no main stream news coverage over here...


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Post by Original Quill Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:35 pm

Isn't the BBC mainstream enough. The Mirror? The Daily Mail? The Independent?

Very strange.

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:43 pm



No uk TV or radio news broadcasts mentioned this incident.


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Post by Original Quill Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:50 pm

Maybe it was a crowded news day for broadcast news over there.

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Post by scrat Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:56 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

No uk TV or radio news broadcasts mentioned this incident.


Perhaps you'd prefer that god come down from heaven and pronounce it.
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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:01 pm

Original Quill wrote:Maybe it was a crowded news day for broadcast news over there.


Nope...
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Post by Irn Bru Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:44 am

Tommy Monk wrote:
Original Quill wrote:Maybe it was a crowded news day for broadcast news over there.


Nope...

It was reported on the BBC World News Service and Radio 5 Live.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04h45g2

It was also on the BBC News showing some of the videos in this on-line article. I saw it

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38136658

I saw it but of course these news outlets are for a more mature audience Laughing
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Post by 'Wolfie Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:16 am

clown

Tommy's probably one of those prat's who starts from the back pages of the newspaper, Sports section first, and reads back towards the middle;   and likely deliberately misses the beginning of news programmes, because they contain all that boring "newsy stuff..."

And then has the gall to complain that the "mainstream media" doesn't report on his pet subjects, nor spoonfeed him what he wants to hear -- and that therefore it must be a new world order conspiracy to keep true "patriots" such as himself in the dark..

Thank God for those free speech championing 'alternative news' media outlets, such as the likes of Breitbat, Stormfront, and dunderheads_R_us.       Razz
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